Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Since the end of the chinese democracy tour i havent heard any official word from the gnr crew about the Chinese Democracy CD or the fait of the band.  Are they still alive in Kicking Or is it just all over ?   idk all i have heard is rumors and no facts.   [nervous] could we jsut be imagining that something is going or is something really happening i am really skeptical of this new album but w/e maybe u peeps can shed some light on this. ???

No, they're not dead. Look for the Richard Fortus info where he says the band is starting back up again in May.



 [ok]

Yeah, lets just hope someone didn't make up that Richard Fortus info...it seems like a lot of people are hanging their hat on what he said....I hope he really said it........

On life support til something official...

That was true and the only thing I trust so far...

victory or death!

axl wouldn't settle for anything less than victory, it's eighter or! death is death, axl isn't dead!!

nO, ThEy'rE nOt dEaD  ::)

the first news we heard after the tour cancellation came from Launch.com (yahoo news site I believe).  It said that a source close to the band reported that the band was far from dead, and working on the finishing touches for the album.
Then, Ian, who publishes the Nightrain Fanzine in the UK, received an e-mail from Del James, in which Del responded to an e-mail of his saying to tell the fans that GN'R is in tact and working on the album, which they intend to support with a tour.
I met Ian on the net while doing the welcome back ad, which he supported as well as publishing an article in the fanzine about it.  my point in mentioning this is that I for one personally believe without a doubt that Ian did in fact receive this e-mail.
Then, most recently we have Matt in NYC, who reported what Richard Fortus said to him at Don Hills.  Besides, yes, being a longtime respected member of the DN'B mailing list... I also know Matt - meeting him through the la weekly project, as well as meeting him at the Hard Rock shows and at MSG.  Matt is not making this up.  Besides, he wasn't/isn't the only one who reported the same comments from Richard Fortus at the show.
So thats 3 reliable sources as far as I'm concerned.

I also remember a e-mail from Robin's webmaster which indicated the same.

The fact that K-Rock's posts jive with this doesn't hurt either.  Sometimes I wonder if Del is BigBadBillyRose.  ;)
The 'source' close to the band which Launch quoted and Del's letter to Ian are strikingly similar.
If it is, well, then I think its cool as hell that hes taking an interest in communicating with the fans - apparently recognizing our sincere concerns and appreciating our devotion to GN'R.  (It wouldn't be the first time that I'm aware of that he actually done so.)

And Madison - I'd love to read about your conversation with Axl at MSG.  I looked for it at mygnr forum in the December threads but didn't see it.  I'd also appreciate it if you could share what you know about GN'Rs manager.  Sanctuary Group still lists GN'R among their clients, with Doug being noted as their contact.  I do remember hearing about Doug and Axl taking a break, I don't remember that ever being confirmed.  Could you direct me/us to the news/info, please.  Thank you.

I think I love you.  ;D

GNR is not dead. Axl wouldn`t let the years of slaving or screwing around (we will see ) be a waste of time.

I think everything is fine, they just have to clear up all legal matters and since this would take awhile Axl decided to finish everything that wasn't done yet.  Axl I think proved to himself and his new bandmates that they were indeed excellent and that people still want to listen to GNR despite not having any new material.  We will get no warning then all of a sudden everything will come to light.  Long live AXl!!!!!!!!!!! [peace]

Theyve been working on the finishing touches for 3 years now.  Get into some new music / bands, that arent over the top and think they can do whatever the want.

Over the top being Bon Jovi, and hate to say it but GNR too! Lets face it Guns N' Roses hasnt been relevant since 1993, there time has past they are long gone, the industry has moved on and left them in the past. Well they are going to release CD then they will have some relevance, ya release it when? July? August? September? The band has no relevance today, the industry has gone on. They arent Nirvana which made a huge impact on the industry. They are a 87 - 93 band, and they are running on fumes. Look at Maria Carey , she was working on her album then was dropped from her label, I think GNR will be dropped from Interscope soon if they cant put forth any material this year. They arent U2 they arent consistent and can release good albums that critics and fans like. People arent going to buy tickets to a 45 year old singer Axl Rose when he finally decides to release an album, Itll be like partying with Mommy and Daddy.(and yes I know hes 41) Implying thats how long it will take him, I'd really like to see how a 41 year old guy can get teens interested in his band / music again.

 ::) another mr.knowitall jimmyjammer? go jam yourself  [hihi]

I'm not a know it all I'm just saying it as it is, until there is a new album on the record sales racks or advertising in the store for it ill believe but until then there is no album. I am a huge GNR fan but the antics have taken its toll, Toronto show was amazing, but I have serious doubts about this.

Let's chill out here, alright?

Let's get this straight "doubters".

Album in works: approx 5 - 6 years

Tour last year: No promotion / No album MSG and several others old out

Anticipation not greater by any other band/musician in music history

Axl is taking LEGENDARY NAME (top bands of all time) and a completely new lineup!

Ablum cost much and Interscope has FAITH...any other band get his much respect? I don't think so.

GNR is not dead. Im sure the CD will be out soon.  [ok]

You're probably right....  [no]

AGAIN is finishing up the THIRD album.
HE and the band have beenworking on 3 albums.
And like i have stated ALOT, if the album is good, then it will sell and it will make gnr huge again.
ITs that simple.

No it's not. People don't just buy good albums. Look at NIN's "The Fragile". Excellent reviews, but did people buy it?

It takes more than a great album to sell it. Promotion, promotion, promotion etc etc...



/jarmo

And lots of respect to the fans.

Organising some fan-clubs would be a smart move...

Finishing a tour might help too.  [hihi]

I'd like to see GN'R on Letterman and maybe have Dave interview Axl.....



/jarmo

Hey you guys wonder if we email sanctuary and ask them to get with axl's people and see if we could run the official fan club?  I mean just tell him to give me a call and we'll do lunch or something.  Course it's gonna have to be on him cause I spent all my money playing air hockey last night but yeah tell him i'll be in town.....we'll see what we got. [rofl]

this is the calm before the storm, believe me
2003 will be the best year in music since 1993
i just hope they tour europe this year, a full-scale tour!!

If GNR is dead, then we (posters on this site) are all ghosts. Can you see me? Do you see dead people?  [rofl]

Donuts don't have souls, therefore, YOU can't be a ghost. So no, I can't see you.

Good point. And there is a lot of really bad crap that is selling multi platinum because of promotion and marketing. I think people will know a good album when they see it, but lets face it, if it isn`t prompted right , not a lot a people will be aware of it. However, this is the trend, not the rule. In rare circumstances things have taken off by word of mouth.

Hey I goofed , my quote ended up in the middle of Jarmo`s, sorry.



Fixed, AxlGreece

I think that if the album is good it will sell extremly well, even if Axl dosn't go flat out with prommotion...

The reason being MTV.

They are still very interested in GNR and what is happening with them. They make frequent reports even when GNR don't seem to do much.

Axl's best chance of getting in the spotlight, in my opinion, would be a Loader interview  [ok]
It would also, probably, be the interview Axl would be most willing to do.

Him and Loader seem to have a certain respect for each other.

Bingo!  

If Axl was smart. HE would put out a vid then after the vid air the MSG show on MTV.
That would show people what the band is all about.
But  i think interscope will push this album big time and have promotion out the ying yang.

That's a great idea.  Lettermen, Leno et. al.  Get the new band in front of as many people as possible.  Go on freaking TRL for God'd sake.

I'm sure the label and management would be up for this type of media blitz but would the singer be?

I think interscope will definatly put alot into promotion.they have to really,this album(and the future ones of course) have cost interscope an estimated over $8 million in recording.Im sure they could put a bit more money in to make sure they recoup it back in sales.I think they will definatly make it back in sales between the three(hopefully CD will do it itself) but if they dont then there could be a bit of bother about it.Axl may not be too much interested in sales,concentrating on quality etc but you know what the label is interested in.

oh.. whatever you say...  :hihi:

now, we have more reason to beleave GNR is dead than in april last year...  :crying: (im not saying they are dead, but they better not be!)  :peace: : ok:

its fun to read through old posts and topics and see, Chinese Democracy will come SOON! i feel it..  :hihi:

NO NEVER! ;D

No way! :peace:

DORMANT BUT NOT DED

Actually I never considered that possibility (I dont think many ppl on this board have). Because I remember hearing three albums in like the yrs following Chinese Democracy, so maybe the band has been working on 3 albums all this time, this way they could release 'em one after the other, instead of wating another 10 yrs after chinese democracy is released. Cause after all theres a trend going on where albums are being pumped out faster, suprisingly. SO I think Axl wants bomboard fans with GnR's new shit.

Which is fucking great, cause it will show that all the patience of GnR's fans has really paid off  :peace: