Here Today... Gone To Hell!

British National Party leader Nick Griffin told a crowd that Islam was a "wicked, vicious faith" a court heard.
Mr Griffin, 47, from mid-Wales, is charged with using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred in Keighley, West Yorkshire, in 2004.

BNP activist Mark Collett, 25, of Leicestershire, also faces four similar charges at Leeds Crown Court.

The charges arose out of speeches filmed by BBC journalist Jason Gwynne for a documentary on the party.

The jury heard Mr Griffin, of Llanerfyl, Powys, urged the gathering to vote BNP to ensure "the British people really realise the evil of what these people have done to our country".

'Cranky lunatics'

Reading excerpts from the speeches, prosecutor Rodney Jameson QC opened the case against the men by telling the court Mr Griffin said white society had turned into a multiracial "hell".

The jury was shown the speeches in which, when referring to Islam, Mr Griffin said: "This wicked, vicious faith has expanded from a handful of cranky lunatics about 1,300 years ago.

"And if you read that book (the Koran), you'll find that that's what they want."

The court heard Mr Collet, of Swithland Lane, Rothley, addressed the gathering at the Reservoir Tavern in Keighley on the same evening.

In his speech Mr Collett accused Asian people of being racist, hating white people, and being responsible for rapes and muggings on white girls and pensioners.

"Let's show these ethnics the door in 2004." he said.

In a second speech at the Crossroads public house in Keighley, Mr Collett said gangs of Asian youths wanted "to wipe out white people" and referred to asylum seekers as "cockroaches".

Mr Jameson said that instead of contributing to a debate on multiculturalism, Collett's speeches were "little more than crude racist rants".

Both men deny the charges against them.

The trial was adjourned until Monday.



but the bad thing I think the british public feel the same

sorry just being honest maybe not me

 FROM WWW.BBC.CO.UK

You can actually go to jail for saying something like this? Wow

I didnt got it from a website

I know wot r going on about... I havent personelly comment on the situation... and Im not being racist just pointing the facts

actually no

We have legislation that deals with those inciting racial hatred and/or promotong terrorism

What happens is we give these bunch a warning - but refuse to follow up on it for atleast a decade

when public opinion eventually forces a scapegoat to be made of someone they get five mins in prison and then have the conviction crushed when people no longer follow that case

God i love my country.....whats thats, my plane tickets are here? Great!

I love glorious Britain too.

Ha! I'd love to know where you're heading. Come on now, which is it, the land of the 'free,' or the land of poverty?

man i hate asian people ! they're so ugly !



fun stuff ?

Is it Duetschland where you can get thrown in the clink for denying the Holocaust?

It's not hatred of minorities; he's just saying they don't belong in the UK. The US is the world's multicultural country, and Europe should stay European and Christian. Europe will fall if it tries to emulate the US, since the world can't hold 2 multicultural, republic superpowers. That rivalry would lead to ruin.

At the very least, the UK should try to force immigrants to assimilate into normal Anglicans.

A lot of the "Holocaust denial" is when historians dispute the number of people killed, not the Holocaust itself. In France, you can be imprisoned for denying the Armenian "genocide". Europe is going to collapse in just 100 years, with the current birth rates, immigration rates, and spiritual state, unless things change very quickly.

Nick Griffin is clearly a dumbass that knows nothing about anything. BNP are generally unintellectual both in knowledge and practically. How can British stay British? there's Romans blood in them, Viking blood as well to name a few. to conclude there;s no such thing as British.
In southern Spain muslims arabs conquered for a few hundred years so majority of spanish today have arabs blood in them as well. When Spanish went to south america and part of USA where spanish origin is high, majority of south americans will have arab blood in them.
above are a few examples why i say to "be British" or "they cant be American" is bullcrap.

VOTE FOR BNP!

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=588&art_id=qw1153228321565B216

Romans bred with Britons, but Anglo-Saxons kept their blood relatively clean. You're correct that there is no such thing as a Briton, because there are English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Cornish, and other subdivisions, but for the most part, the UK is an Anglo-Saxon nation.

meh, so glad those wankers never try stuff up here in scotland. its surreal to think these sorts of 'political organisations' still exist.

lucky you.

i do agree on the line where it says "multi-racial hell", cause its fact, we have far too many different types of people from different countries, races etc.

multi-cultural communities dont work, not because one race is racist or better than the other, but simply because each race and religion are so different.

for example, i forget which particular race or religion, muslim im going to guess. recently on the news the whole vail things the women wear or whatever they are called. If they were in there home country, thats fine and it works, but in a country which policies were designed by white people, christian or not christian, it doesnt work.

There are too many people who see someone who isn't white and then assume that their an immigrant.

All this stuff in the news about vails is total bullshit.  Of course it works!  There's no reason at all for it not to work, it's just the media kicking up a frenzie and starting trouble - except this is much more serious because now they are actually causing racial hated and xenophobia.  Nobody gave a shit about vails before but now it's the big issue everyone seems to have an opinion.  Now, stupidly proud women are refusing to remove their vails for something as routine as an identity check because they think they're making a bold statement against opression, so the press pounce on that and make things worse by printing cartoons of evil looking people dressed like ninjas.  People get paranoid and roits start to happen.

I think there will be riots quite soon, actually.  Hopefully i'm wrong, it just seems to be heading in that direction.  There's little trust between cultures these days and it's the press' fault for making it an issue.

me too

There never has been trust between cultures.

and yes i agree, i can see a bit of a civil war exploading sometime within the next 10 years.

Of course they do. Scott McLean is the head man in your country. They're everywhere, and growing. It's in their best interests to, now that there are more and more eastern europeans coming over.

If you needed to think why people are voting BNP, below is another reason, again this has hardly received any press coverage. The government can censor any news that they feel could cause disruption... Absolute bullshit. The next bout of elections are going to be a 'real' shake-up for the big three parties. The BNP will be heard. This isnt racist, far from it. The UK is under seige from the extremists. We must do something about it...


That ?wicked vicious? faith is back in the news again today with coverage of the trial of a Muslim convert who allegedly planned to detonate a dirty bomb and launch an attack on London's Tube, a court has been told.
Former Hindu Dhiren Barot, 34, from London, plotted "massive explosions" in a synchronised attack in the US and UK.

Barot, who last month admitted conspiracy to murder, wanted to pack limousines with gas cylinders and also use a radioactive "dirty" bomb.

Barot, from Kingsbury in north-west London, described by prosecutors as "a member or close associate" of al-Qaeda is to be sentenced tomorrow(7th).

"The plan was to carry out massive explosions here and in the USA, the principal object being to kill hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people without warning," prosecutor Edmund Lawson QC told Woolwich Crown Court.

"There were plans for the detonation of a radiation dispersal device, more commonly known as a dirty bomb, the use of a petrol tanker to cause an explosion, and an attack on London's rail or Underground network, including the Heathrow Express, of an explosion on a Tube train while in a tunnel under the River Thames."

The prosecution said Barot had written: "Imagine the chaos that would be caused if a powerful explosion were to rip through here [London] and actually rupture the river itself.

"That would cause pandemonium, what with the explosions, flooding, drowning etc that would occur."

Update>>>>>>>  Dhiren Barot has been sentenced to life in prison.      With something so premediated to Kill in such a way should have been sentenced to exactly that DEATH.. Bring back capital punishment to the UK. You will very quickly see a downturn in these hideous acts.

some immegrants either benfit grabbers or allowing loads of them takes all the jobs up like what the polish have done. thats why i'm voting BNP!!!!!

You people are insane.  The BNP is lowest of the lows. :no:

BNPs are the dumbest people ever. majority have the literacy of a 13yr old and arent wise in terms of cooperation. BNP are so dumb they judge Islam by followers who possibly could be doing things very wrong.

All they do is stir up hate - and we all know what hate leads to ( ;)).? They hated Muslims before anyone thought they were a threat.? That's before 9/11 and the London Bombings.? They have never been anything more than a group of racist thugs disguised as a political party.? They have no other policies - their only concern is to get rid of the darkies.? They are scum and give freedom of speech a bad name.

If you wanna kick all the Muslims out at least have some class and vote UKIP. >:(

true. there was an interview and a BNP politician was telling the interviewer about a man who supports the BNP because he was the only white man on the bus. And so the BNP thug was saying to the interviewer "We serve people who were in the waiting line first." What waiting line? I mean so what? there are still more whites than asians anyday. statistically only a 1/3- 2/5 are asian in UK so proportionally there are plenty of whites so they need to shut their traps. The BNP policies will never work on anyone because they're unorganised and unintelligent.

To be honest the face veil shouldnt be banned because its gonna kick up a fuss. Face veil is optional completely in Islam as far as i remember but i disagree with face veil at certain places such as job interviews. Again the problem is the government doesnt care to educate immigrants that are majority un educated.
i watch a doc on Nigeria a month ago and the presenter went to a mosque and madrassah (school islamic) and the guys there who were teaching the children never heard of the 7/7 bombing and 9/11 incidents and no matter how cleverly religious they are you got to understand how to apply it to the real world. they dont understand application because they dont know the world around them.
The teachers of the Nigerian (predominantly Muslim country under "muslim" rule might i add) think bin laden a hero from afghan war. Bin Laden is hated by every muslim and non muslim because he ruined islam's reputable name and killed innocent non muslims.
Anyway Nigeria (and other north and central african countries such as Somalia) is where majority of UK immigrants come from and when you get these people into your country with the described above mentalities, what do you expect?
governments dont care about people with these mentalities it seems. they want to shred em

Nationalism is a healthy instinct. The BNP is a truly conservative party, unlike the Tories. Much "classic" liberalism has infiltrated allegedly conservative movements in the modern era, and it's a problem.

While the BNP are clearly simplistic in their outlook i think it is outrageous, infact its beyond outrageous that a leader of a genuine political party be put on trial for speaking the views of thousands and even millions of people.

What he said was crude - but it was not an incitement to anything. Nick Griffin is just ignorant like HTGTH's Walk, to be ignored and laughed at

The BNP should be shunned and ridiculed but put on trial? Absurd

The really fascist here are those intent on destroying free speach

There is a world of difference between calling for Jews to be killed and voicing an opinion on a religion that is hardly doing all it can to counter extremism within its ranks

Nick Griffin is a thug, but he has the right to say what he does. He called for no one to be injured and never inferred that was a desirable outcome either.

What really saddened me was those protesting against his aquittal - ha, they call him a fascist and yet would remove his right to speak his mind and dont respect the outcome of a fair trial!!!

It beggers belief, the UK is just one extreme little group on top of another

Just like the death penalty has wiped out murder in America

Just like cutting of a thiefs hand has wiped out theft in Iran

Your frakking naive and clueless

95% of the UK is 'white' according to the latest census

That whole country is fucked up. Just to many immigrants.

Just like the death penalty has wiped out murder in America

Just like cutting of a thiefs hand has wiped out theft in Iran

Your frakking naive and clueless

Well that's opinion and by suggesting its clueless and naive is just as ridiculous as some people saying that Nick Griffin deserved to go to prison for what he said. Considering how 9/11 affected me personally in certain cases such as Dhiren Barot's case last week I do believe that the Death Penalty is a just sentence. The scum-bag derserves to die and I would happily pull the trigger!

You quote the American justice system, where yes I agree there are still murders, however in the states where the Death Sentence is carried out there is pro-rata far less serious crime, simply because people know the consequences of their actions.

Unless we stop this crazy political correct society the Western world is going to hell.

I hope you have figures to support that nonsense :confused:

All statistical information can be found at: www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=169&scid=12

Please look at it closely. Remembering the population & cultures of certain states.

Having said this anyone can bring up stats, the whole basis of my personal opinion on voting for the death penalty in England doesn't change at all. And if yours differs to mine, I respect that.

And on the immigration point, please look at this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ&mode=related&search

Take it easy.....

Average of murder rates among death penalty states in 2005: 5.3
Average of murder rates among non-death penalty states in 2005: 2.8

You do realise this rather tangles with your own ''point''?

Honestly if you believe murder equates with justice than why are we punishing the killer is the first place?

okay. Apologies about my statistical error there assuming you're correct. Saying that there's still large majority of "white" Muslims.
Btw, what can we Muslims do to wipe out terrorists? theres a large difference between a muslim and a terrorist which shows Nick griffin comment are lunacy and his party run by lunatic base which dont ever work out in long run.

Denounce those that would drag your religion through the mud. Simply speaking out is important. These people thrive on passive acceptance. If your dont denounce them u might as well be supporting them - they take ur silence as acceptance.

And maybe silence is an acceptance.