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Title: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: gnrbus on November 01, 2006, 08:34:10 PM Can someone tell me why Axl has to start the shows at 11:30-12:00? Would starting the show at 9:00 be too big a deal?
I've never seen any other artist/band start shows so late. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Jim Bob on November 01, 2006, 08:36:01 PM if you can't handle it, don't fucking go. : ok:
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: coondogg on November 01, 2006, 08:36:41 PM Because he hates you
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: bad obsession 4GNR on November 01, 2006, 08:38:07 PM cuz he's Axl
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Jim Bob on November 01, 2006, 08:40:07 PM Because he hates you exactly. haven't you learned yet gnrbus? axl fucking hates us all and does everything he can to make all his fans mad at him and thrives off them whining and bitching and complaining on internet messageboards about anything and everything involving the band. 8) Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: CAFC Nick on November 01, 2006, 08:40:34 PM Jesus stop the bitching threads
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: gnrbus on November 01, 2006, 08:41:45 PM Jesus stop the bitching threads If your fucking mother taught you to read then you would know that i'm asking a question. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on November 01, 2006, 08:42:18 PM Yeah, just be happy they're touring at all. Or would you rather wait another 4 years?
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: CAFC Nick on November 01, 2006, 08:46:32 PM Jesus stop the bitching threads If your fucking mother taught you to read then you would know that i'm asking a question. Sorry what are you talking about? I can't read... :-X Anyway, why does it matter why he starts so late? I think its good (as long as he turns up) gets the crowd going. The tickets always say the show that GNR are scheduled AFTER 10pm, which means Axl can go on when he feels like. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: gnrbus on November 01, 2006, 08:48:17 PM All I want to know is why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does Axl feel more comfortable playing later or is there some other reason. Can you people stop with the rude remarks, i'm just asking a fucking question.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: TAP on November 01, 2006, 08:50:50 PM Can someone tell me why Axl has to start the shows at 11:30-12:00? Would starting the show at 9:00 be too big a deal? It's part of his campaign against Daylight Saving Time. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Eternal Flaming Sword of Death... on November 01, 2006, 08:54:20 PM who gives a fuck??????????
you go to the show??? when i go to a concert, i plan on being out the whole night. you can't hang, go home!!!! the show starts when it starts i flew to vegas in 02' and i was just happy they went on and finished the show. what don't you people understand.....people keep telling you that the show won't start til after 11, and still, keep bitch and ask why shut the fuck up already!!!!! Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: LittleFly on November 01, 2006, 09:15:11 PM I went to another band's concert recently (I won't say which one out of embarassment :-[ ) The entire show was over by 9:30. I felt like I was at a kiddie show :hihi:
I dunno, maybe it's cuz I'm used to GNR and expect to get out after the buses and trains have stopped rollin. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: patcooper on November 01, 2006, 09:16:06 PM if your tired and need sleep stay home on the internet. Fucking crybabies. it's a rock show who cares what time it starts. just enjoy it.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Randy Jesus on November 01, 2006, 09:19:26 PM I think this fans are used to the Back Street Boys / NSYNC time schedule... :hihi:
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: damnthehaters on November 01, 2006, 09:20:24 PM All I want to know is why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does Axl feel more comfortable playing later or is there some other reason. Can you people stop with the rude remarks, i'm just asking a fucking question. It's easy. ?He's fallen into a routine. ?Do you go to bed at about the same time every night? ?Do you wake up at similar times? ?Do you tend to work out at the same time? ?Do you tend to eat at the same time every day? ?Life is one big routine. ?Everyone has there way of doing something. ?I'm sure it's just a comfort thing. That's my opinion. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: daubs on November 01, 2006, 09:22:00 PM leave the guy alone. at least its a legit question. its better than all the threads of people speculating. it fucknig tired of seeing threads about what people think will happen. i dont care. i think the board should keep it to news, questions and updates and rumours. or at least start a entire section for speculation.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Niko on November 01, 2006, 09:25:41 PM leave the guy alone. at least its a legit question. its better than all the threads of people speculating. it fucknig tired of seeing threads about what people think will happen. i dont care. i think the board should keep it to news, questions and updates and rumours. or at least start a entire section for speculation. same here to be on topic i really dont know why he start so late, and really dont care :hihi: another thing...WTF is wrong with forum members over here?? , so Del James writes an article and everybody changed opinions ? Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: chineseblues on November 01, 2006, 09:31:52 PM I'm just gonna let Del James do the talking right now:
Quote WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE -- who decides what late is? Every single press release for the tour specifies that Sebastian Bach will be going on sometime AFTER 8pm, Papa Roach will be going on AFTER 9pm, and Guns N' Roses will be onstage AFTER 10pm. This is supposed to be an all night party. When the f*ck did rock n' roll -- and the last time I checked rock music was supposed to be a non-conformist, rebellious, art form -- get a Flavor Flav-sized time clock wrapped around its neck like a hangman's noose? Rebellion and punctuality do not go hand in hand and for those of you too young to remember, The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin rarely went on before midnight in their hey day. Here's a little insight for you -- a rock band has to do certain things in order to be prepared to hit the stage. It's a lot like a sports team warming up before hitting the field. Axl has to do his vocal warm ups or else he will blow his voice out. Guitarist Robin Finck has to do yoga-type stretching or else he's going to pull or tear a muscle again. Some of the band members need chiropractic adjustments or massage therapy. Others need to warm up on their instruments. The list is endless and every night something unexpected always occurs. There's a lot more to it than showing up, grabbing an instrument, and walking onstage. No one is interested in wasting your time or keeping you waiting, but the band goes on when it is 100 percent ready to go on and give it all that they have for that evening and not one minute before. The show starts when the band hits the stage and ends when the final encore is over. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: patcooper on November 01, 2006, 09:34:37 PM leave the guy alone. at least its a legit question. its better than all the threads of people speculating. it fucknig tired of seeing threads about what people think will happen. i dont care. i think the board should keep it to news, questions and updates and rumours. or at least start a entire section for speculation. same here to be on topic i really dont know why he start so late, and really dont care :hihi: another thing...WTF is wrong with forum members over here?? , so Del James writes an article and everybody changed opinions ? well i remember seeing them in 91 3 nights at the garden and those shows didnt start until midnight or there abouts. hammerstein shows after 11:00 p.m. and vegas was the same. so everyone knows gnr goes on late, you just gotta live with it or dont fucking go to the show, it's simple. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Kid A on November 01, 2006, 09:36:14 PM As long as they showed up at all I wouldn?t care.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: GNR4L on November 01, 2006, 09:37:09 PM If you wanna see a concert on time go see Velvet Revolver.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: burnz007 on November 01, 2006, 09:39:23 PM leave the guy alone. at least its a legit question. its better than all the threads of people speculating. it fucknig tired of seeing threads about what people think will happen. i dont care. i think the board should keep it to news, questions and updates and rumours. or at least start a entire section for speculation. same here to be on topic i really dont know why he start so late, and really dont care :hihi: another thing...WTF is wrong with forum members over here?? , so Del James writes an article and everybody changed opinions ? I agree w/ you regarding Del... I think he should take it easy on the "internet-connected" as we are actually the ones going to all the shows. I simply expect GNR (and most bands actually) to come on late... it doesn't bother me... but I don't think Del needs to bitch-out an entire segment of fans either. Die-hard fans like to discuss and speculate... that's just the way it is. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: mrbrownstone8797 on November 01, 2006, 09:39:56 PM This is why the GN'R online community is so bogus. The guy asks a question and gets flamed for "bitching" and apparently he doesn't deserve to know and should just be happy they play. Give me a fuckin' break.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Niko on November 01, 2006, 09:41:57 PM leave the guy alone. at least its a legit question. its better than all the threads of people speculating. it fucknig tired of seeing threads about what people think will happen. i dont care. i think the board should keep it to news, questions and updates and rumours. or at least start a entire section for speculation. same here to be on topic i really dont know why he start so late, and really dont care :hihi: another thing...WTF is wrong with forum members over here?? , so Del James writes an article and everybody changed opinions ? well i remember seeing them in 91 3 nights at the garden and those shows didnt start until midnight or there abouts. hammerstein shows after 11:00 p.m. and vegas was the same. so everyone knows gnr goes on late, you just gotta live with it or dont fucking go to the show, it's simple. i have the same opinion but its unbelievable how many people here and in another boards used to be bitching a lot about the shows starting late, and then totally changed opinion after what del james said to speak a piece of mind, if guns n roses tour southamerica i really prefer they show up like 11 PM, because you cant just go home after a GNR gig, you gotta go out have some fun, go to a bar ?:beer: but its not necesary to bash the guy when he is asking a valid question, dont know the answer, probably "Axl likes to do it that way" is the most certain answer ?: ok: Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: metallex78 on November 01, 2006, 09:42:18 PM If you wanna see a concert on time go see Velvet Revolver. While there's absolutely no need to bring up a VR comparison, the two times I saw them in Sydney last year they came on late. Not midnight like GN'R, but still late. As for why Axl comes on late, back in the UYI days, didn't Axl have some thing about getting himself in the right frame of mind to do a show? I remember reading something about that. Maybe he's still like that now. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: misterID on November 01, 2006, 09:45:01 PM I think the posts in this thread explains a lot. If these people are what was meant as true fans, then that's pretty sad and embarrassing :no:
To answer the thread, according to Del its down and dirty Rock & Roll ala Zeppelin, and vocal excercises, yoga and chiropatric services. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: zakas80 on November 01, 2006, 09:54:22 PM the nightime is the rightime!
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: daubs on November 01, 2006, 09:57:14 PM im pretty close to quitting this board. just because the people on the board are pissing me off. the whining isnt too bad, people have the right to be upset, but it seems to get drawn out. then there is the speculation. im pretty sure gnr have proven they cant be predicted so what the point in trying. A few weeks ago everybody was talking about how the single would be out that week..and no. but still people speculate. Then somebody asks a legit question and everybody makes fun of him. second i agree about people changing opinions after what del said. when i was reading it i was thinking 'hes clearly talking about htgth so people know he reads it, so they will stop bitching and suck up'.
this is suposed to be a fan forum, not dawsons creek. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: forgotaboutsteve on November 01, 2006, 09:59:06 PM axl does not want to come onstage before he is mentally/physically ready to give his best performance possible...and there is no set time for that. ?it's like some of the extreme athletes. ?in surfing terms, you don't just drop into the 30 foot wave because it's there, you have to psych yourself up and know that you will go out there and conquer it.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: misterID on November 01, 2006, 10:03:13 PM im pretty close to quitting this board. just because the people on the board are pissing me off. the whining isnt too bad, people have the right to be upset, but it seems to get drawn out. then there is the speculation. im pretty sure gnr have proven they cant be predicted so what the point in trying. A few weeks ago everybody was talking about how the single would be out that week..and no. but still people speculate. Then somebody asks a legit question and everybody makes fun of him. second i agree about people changing opinions after what del said. when i was reading it i was thinking 'hes clearly talking about htgth so people know he reads it, so they will stop bitching and suck up'. this is suposed to be a fan forum, not dawsons creek. Don't leave dude! You're the kind of poster this board needs badly! This place will turn gay if all the logical, non zealots leave. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: forgotaboutsteve on November 01, 2006, 10:04:55 PM it will turn "gay"? that's good, that means "happy", right?
oh no, you were probably using it in a derogatory, ignorant way, huh? loser... Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: daubs on November 01, 2006, 10:09:15 PM it will turn "gay"? that's good, that means "happy", right? oh no, you were probably using it in a derogatory, ignorant way, huh? loser... i understand your point, but we all know he didnt mean it in any derogatory way. i was thinking its kind of intresting how 'gay' has become synomynous with 'stupid' or 'bad' or 'wrong'. I support gays/lesbians and i use the term in that way all the time. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: dk on November 01, 2006, 10:12:58 PM I think Axl is just a night owl and like others have said, he needs to get his mind ready in order to start.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: daubs on November 01, 2006, 10:18:07 PM i warned everybody i talked to about the concert here that he will be late. i agree that people should expect it and if you dont like it, go home. but on the other hand, i think its alittle disrespectful of the audience. like where would axl rose be without the fans? if he has to warm up, get to the arena earlier. he should know by now how long it takes to get ready.
i read something i think from sebastian bach (i refuse to call him baz...) where he said axl was really late once while skid row were opening and he ran into axl and asked where he was and axl said he was watching a basketball game....warming up my ass. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: JimMorrison4 on November 01, 2006, 10:25:40 PM Well like Del James said, it's about vocal exercises, yoga, massage therapy... rock n roll ::)
After hearing how pampered the band has to be before they can take the stage, and after hearing Better... Guns n Roses have turned emo. :hihi: Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Eazy E on November 01, 2006, 10:43:34 PM Del James hit it on the nose when he said "who decides what late is?"... This is supposed to be a big fucking party... and what good party ends before midnight
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Groovie In VT on November 01, 2006, 10:50:59 PM I got a friend that is always late, so much so that we schedule shit around him. There is regular time and Dave Time, so if you want to get to someplace to meet at 11pm, you tell everyone 11pm EXCEPT Dave, you tell him to meet you there at 9pm, he will pull in around 10:55 or so. Never fails.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: axlatya on November 01, 2006, 10:55:22 PM hello all. ?First time poster here.
I went to the Tampa show and the Estero Show. ?At the tampa show, Axl came on around 12, at the estero show around 11. To answer the original poster's question, the best response I can say is that there are 2 opening bands, so between the 2 opening bands and the set changes, Axl and friends don't come out until all that is done. ?It's not that Axl is late, it's just that the other bands do their thing first, so Axl can't come on until after 11 or so, when it's time for the "main event". ?Maybe there should be only one opening act, but I think they are trying to give you more for your money with 2, so no complaints from me. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: BKinNYC on November 01, 2006, 10:59:34 PM There are two ways of interpreting this:
1. ?I'm a die-hard Gn'R fan. ?I read every bit of news and reviews that are out there. ? I've been to more than 10 of their concerts, so I know that they will come on late. ?I've come to accept it. ?Not saying that I think it's right or wrong, but as a diehard, I KNOW. 2. ?For the casual Gn'R fan, (no offense to anyone) that Del James explanation is a load of shit. ?First of all, the casual fan probably hasn't read one press release. ?Doesn't go on the fansites. ?And the TICKETS say that the show starts at 8. ?I'm looking at my MSG ticket, and it doesn't say "Around 8," or "After 10," or anything like that (like it did in the early 90's). ?So how are concert-goers supposed to know? ?I've been to plenty of shows where I saw a band that I had no idea what they're saying in their press releases, or haven't read one review. ?And as far as the musicians "being prepared," come on; ?They couldn't prepare at 8 instead of 10? -Just saying that there's no real right or wrong here. ? It all depends on how "into" the band you are. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: IDGAF on November 01, 2006, 11:04:33 PM so fuckin what if they come out late? its a concert, not a fuckin metro train
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Acquiesce on November 01, 2006, 11:35:17 PM They are so rock n roll and unpredictable that they are unable to take the stage without their yoga excercises and massages.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Eternal Flaming Sword of Death... on November 02, 2006, 06:46:57 AM i undersdtand the guys question, but this is a DEAD HORSE.
no one except Axl knows people keep telling other people that they won't go on til after 11 or so, so why do people keep asking?? it obviously ain't gonna change, so what is the point?? plan on it Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: polluxlm on November 02, 2006, 06:55:44 AM A combination of wanting to create the right atmosphere, and the need to get his head to a place where he can perform his absolute best. Neither exclusive of the other.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Amanda. on November 02, 2006, 09:07:17 AM They start late because axl is suffering a hangover from last night. :beer:
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: crazycheryl on November 02, 2006, 03:27:12 PM I agree with everyone on this board to just accept it and party on! But, has anyone read reviews or seen the news from the European dates? There was an article about Axl biting a security guard in the leg - early in the morning - you know he was fucked up! And one article about Sebastian Bach having to do the whole show for him cause he was too wasted to go on stage. He might have quit drugging so hard (maybe) but he still boozes and probably smokes weed. I'm sure he's going out every night after the shows or at least partying, sleeping late, does his shit, then starts partying again and goes on when he gets the right mixture of the buzz and momentum.
Tommy stinson is from the replacements? If so, they were huge partiers, hell I was at the concert they broke up at. It took them a long ass time to get on the stage too cause they were liquered up and fighting. Not saying this is the case but most rockers party balls to the walls. I'm betting on the party factor. Guns were so wild back in the day, I can't imagine some of the old behavior hasn't surfaced. He's like a friend man - I don't agree with everything they do but I love em and gonna stick by them no matter what! Axl would not be Axl and people would not love him without his bad ass attitude. Society is so politically correct these days, it's awesome to see someone defy the odds and go against the mainstream because that's how so many of us feel. Personally, he is an extension of what I wish I could do. Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: daubs on November 02, 2006, 09:23:56 PM if only the people who were ready to party went to the concerts, then attendence would be shit.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: crazycheryl on November 03, 2006, 11:41:02 AM I agree but don't expect Axl to think about that. If you're really upset about this, why don't you try to contact GNR through the fan club or something and tell them to get their ass on sooner? I'm sure if you keep trying someone will respond and then you'll see what the band has to say.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Kid A on November 03, 2006, 03:08:33 PM He starts show late to determine, whether or not you are worthy of his presence, if you freak out and riot you or not worthy, or if you remain calm and are thankful that he will turn up at all then you deserve to be there.
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Albert S Miller on November 03, 2006, 03:36:51 PM I agree but don't expect Axl to think about that. If you're really upset about this, why don't you try to contact GNR through the fan club or something and tell them to get their ass on sooner? I'm sure if you keep trying someone will respond and then you'll see what the band has to say. Um, I really don't think it is gonna make a difference, he will come on stage when he is good and ready, and the people will wait just like they always have!!! :peace:Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: GnR-NOW on November 03, 2006, 06:55:34 PM They dont start late, they start around 11
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: mnsotapop on November 04, 2006, 02:34:33 PM He starts "late" because.... He CAN! It's a power/control thing. Just like making someone take all the brown M&M's out of the bowl...
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Communist China on November 04, 2006, 02:37:37 PM He starts "late" because.... He CAN!? It's a power/control thing.? Just like making someone take all the brown M&M's out of the bowl... Don't they call that 'being a dick' or is it 'being a diva'? Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: T_Roxie on November 04, 2006, 02:41:38 PM Maybe he's really crap at putting his contact lenses in, i know i am! :peace:
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Albert S Miller on November 04, 2006, 03:00:30 PM Maybe he's really crap at putting his contact lenses in, i know i am! :peace: Remember the story about the band being late to sign with Geffin, cause Axl couldn't find his contacts? Vicki Hamilton found them in a pair of jeans he had previously worn a couple of days before, but when she had located them for him he himself couldn't be found, and when he was he was sitting on the roof of the Whiskey.Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Albert S Miller on November 04, 2006, 03:05:29 PM "Show usually starts around 7, we go on stage around 9, get on the bus about 11 sippin a drink and feelin fine" :beer: Isn't this kinda how it goes, nothings changed!!
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Communist China on November 04, 2006, 04:12:37 PM Except the on stage at 9 part. ::)
Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: IDGAF on November 05, 2006, 01:50:03 AM why don't we just make a rule that...
guns n roses comes on stage around 11-12 therefore, that is normal time, and not late that way, everyone quits bitching about how he should be more punctual..he's a rocker, not the fuckin president Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: metallex78 on November 05, 2006, 03:16:44 AM "Show usually starts around 7, we go on stage around 9, get on the bus about 11 sippin a drink and feelin fine" :beer:? Isn't this kinda how it goes, nothings changed!! More like "Show usually starts around 7, we go on stage around 12, then Axl likes to go a clubbin' sippin a drink and feelin fine" :hihi: Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Albert S Miller on November 05, 2006, 11:53:36 AM "Show usually starts around 7, we go on stage around 9, get on the bus about 11 sippin a drink and feelin fine" :beer:? Isn't this kinda how it goes, nothings changed!! More like "Show usually starts around 7, we go on stage around 12, then Axl likes to go a clubbin' sippin a drink and feelin fine" :hihi: Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: Locomotive98 on November 05, 2006, 12:27:18 PM If you wanna see a concert on time go see Velvet Revolver. Lol, thats a classic. I'm sure most people want to see a concert on time. I did see VR, and they were on time. Its called professionalism and respect for the people who have paid to see you. Its not hard to turn up at a reasonable time is it? Yoga excercises? Lol, rock on :hihi: Title: Re: Why Does Axl Start The Shows So Late? Post by: IDGAF on November 05, 2006, 08:03:56 PM VR started about 45-60 mins late when i saw them this summer...
i don't really care though..it doesn't bug me when people are late...except for busses and trains...those really bug me when they're late because they are paid to get me there on time..axl has no such requirements |