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Title: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 29, 2006, 08:22:55 PM
It makes It's So Easy ("turn around bitch, I got a use for you!") look like nothing!

Quote
Thrown down in the gutter, it?s more than you deserve
Kneeling fucking virgin, you know that's what you are
Pussy for a maggot, isn't that a shock
What can I do?
With a BITCH LIKE YOU!!

Yowsa.

Think maybe Chris was having some hard times with the ladies when he wrote that one??  :o

I know GN'R have been accused of sexually degrading lyrics in the past, but I think Silkworms takes the cake.

What do you think?  ???

I've never been bothered by the lyrics in It's So Easy because they were kids when they wrote that. When young guys get together they can tend to say some pretty sexually-degrading things sometimes.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: killingvector on October 29, 2006, 08:23:50 PM
It's one of the best new songs when performed live though.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 29, 2006, 08:27:24 PM
It's one of the best new songs when performed live though.

This isn't really a thread for feedback on if you like the song, though; I was just curious to see what people consider to be the most misogynist song by the Guns. I think most people would probably agree it's Silkworms, but it's never been discussed before to my knowledge.  ???


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: WeHeldTogether on October 29, 2006, 08:29:09 PM
yeah, it does sound pretty misogynistic.  but you never know, it could be metaphors, it could be about how that kind of stuff is bad.  you never know?

i like the song in a strange way though.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: kyrie on October 29, 2006, 08:32:20 PM
Those lyrics seem off... I always thought it was Pussy full of maggots, isn't it absurd.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 29, 2006, 08:35:31 PM
Those lyrics seem off... I always thought it was Pussy full of maggots, isn't it absurd.

It is. I copied those from another site. I missed the typo they had.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on October 29, 2006, 08:40:00 PM
That would probably be Back Off Bitch


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on October 29, 2006, 08:42:43 PM
I like the song structure- the quiet part in the middle in the place of where a typical guitar solo would go.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: ThatGuy on October 29, 2006, 09:28:34 PM
i think that you just learned the word "misogynistic", and wanted to use it in a sentence and make friends.  8)


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Risico on October 29, 2006, 09:31:17 PM
Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?

Yes it is.

Ludicrous lyrics aside, I really like the song musically. Maybe bits and pieces of it will show up on the album somewhere.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: killingvector on October 29, 2006, 09:40:26 PM
It's one of the best new songs when performed live though.

This isn't really a thread for feedback on if you like the song, though; I was just curious to see what people consider to be the most misogynist song by the Guns. I think most people would probably agree it's Silkworms, but it's never been discussed before to my knowledge.  ???

When you open the can of worms, expect the discussion to expand.

btw Don't self moderate. We have people in the forum with that responsibility.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: PrettyTiedUp763 on October 29, 2006, 09:50:57 PM
That would probably be Back Off Bitch

Back Off Bitch probably was, but now Silkworms takes the cake. No doubt about it.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: The Legend on October 29, 2006, 09:52:01 PM
Very misogynistic, but I still think the title ruler is Back Off Bitch.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: lennonisgod on October 29, 2006, 09:54:07 PM
"Pussy full of maggots" is one of my favorite lines ever in a song. That's a classic line and a dirty one at that. Hmmmm... Pussy full of maggots... Makes ya kind of horny doesn't it??


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: bDinan on October 29, 2006, 09:54:45 PM
Its the most super funky techno song they've ever written... thats for damn sure.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Bad_Apple on October 29, 2006, 09:55:08 PM
yeah, the lyrics are crude and IMO I hate this song.
It's so Easy is one of my fav gnr songs, and for me, I interpret "bitch" as male or female (although generally used for women)

generally I love gnr lyrics, but this one sounds really lame.

Was Dizzy involved in writing this song as well?


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 29, 2006, 10:01:02 PM
Your first verse is wrong.

Silkworms


Listen mother fuckers to this song that should be heard
Dragged down in the gutters, it?s more than you deserve
Screamin fucking banchee, you know that's what you are
Pussy full of maggots, isn't that a shock

What can I do
With a bitch like you
You know that it?s true
All I have
I ask you
I'll be dammed with a bitch like you
With a bitch like you

Get your head down out of the stars
Fucking little schemer got yourself a broken heart
Syphilitic priestess, baby I know who you are
Parasitic demon sucking acid through your heart


What can I do
With a bitch like you
You know that it?s true
All I have
I ask you
I'll be dammed with a bitch like you
A bitch like you


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: killingvector on October 29, 2006, 10:07:15 PM
Its the most super funky techno song they've ever written... thats for damn sure.

It is true. Lots of effects. I love the lyrics. Spitting venom.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: jimb0 on October 29, 2006, 10:09:56 PM
I like the lyrics, they're cute.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: oneway23 on October 29, 2006, 10:13:30 PM
Very endearing lyrics....I've convinced my girlfriend to make it our wedding song, in fact. ;D


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: jimb0 on October 29, 2006, 10:31:19 PM
Back off Bitch is going to be my wedding song.   I'd blast that when I was pissed at my g/f and she'd be like 'nice song'


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: oneway23 on October 29, 2006, 10:34:39 PM
Back off Bitch is going to be my wedding song.   I'd blast that when I was pissed at my g/f and she'd be like 'nice song'

Sounds more like a celebratory anniversary ditty to me..


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: italysfinest1985 on October 29, 2006, 10:40:04 PM
Yeah Silkworms would be a great wedding song. HAHA. That would sure cause a few aunts and uncles drop to the floor...

My wedding song is "Together"...that WWF produced one that Randy Savage and Elizabeth used at Summerslam 1990...it took a shitload of working at my gf to get her to agree lol


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: oneway23 on October 29, 2006, 10:43:52 PM
Yeah Silkworms would be a great wedding song. HAHA. That would sure cause a few aunts and uncles drop to the floor...

My wedding song is "Together"...that WWF produced one that Randy Savage and Elizabeth used at Summerslam 1990...it took a shitload of working at my gf to get her to agree lol

You, sir, are a class A individual!  That's phenomenal stuff right there...


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: dodger girl on October 30, 2006, 12:12:14 AM
I really like Silkworms, the music is awesome, very techno and the lyrics are what make it stand out


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Tomorrows on October 30, 2006, 12:18:17 AM
The worst is Cornshucker:


My heart is full of love for you
I wanna get right next to you


1, 2, 73


She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gotta wash my dick
After she makes me buttfuck her


She's a cornshucker
A real buttfucker
Gonna stick my dick
Right up her ass


She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gotta wash my dick
After she makes me buttfuck her


She's a cornshucker
A real buttfucker
Gonna stick my dick
Right up her ass


Jimmy and John
Got it going on bigger
But I heard her ask
"Don't make me go there!"
Wendy said
"I might get a fucking draft"
Instead of a wang
All I had was a shaft
If you don't believe me
That big are worse
You're a fucking bitch
I've seen more worse


She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gotta wash my dick
After she makes me buttfuck her


She's a cornshucker
A real buttfucker


[Guitar Solo]


Well I'll get in trouble????
???? so fine
I had to do a round
A second time
When his daughter screamed
Her daddy got white
Her daddy put a bullet
Right between my fuckin eyes


She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gotta wash my dick
After she makes me buttfuck her


She's a cornshucker
A real buttfucker
Gonna stick my dick
Right up her ass


She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gotta wash my dick
After she makes me buttfuck her


She's a cornshucker
A real buttfucker
Gonna stick my dick
Right up her ass
A cornshucker


She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gotta wash my dick
After she makes me buttfuck her


She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gonna stick my dick
Right up her ass


She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gotta wash my dick
After she makes me buttfuck her
She's a cornshucker
A real fine fucker


Cornshucker
A real fine fucker
Gotta wash my dick
After she makes me buttfuck her


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: The Legend on October 30, 2006, 12:28:22 AM
They should've put an acoustic version of that on GN'R lies.

You just think One In A Million was offensive... jeezus...? :nervous:


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 30, 2006, 01:28:57 AM
It's one of the best new songs when performed live though.

This isn't really a thread for feedback on if you like the song, though; I was just curious to see what people consider to be the most misogynist song by the Guns. I think most people would probably agree it's Silkworms, but it's never been discussed before to my knowledge.  ???

When you open the can of worms, expect the discussion to expand.

btw Don't self moderate. We have people in the forum with that responsibility.

I wasn't self moderating. I was stressing my original question to make sure the thread didn't get off course because yours was the very first reply and the self-moderators you mentioned might have closed this if it just devolved into a discussion about the musical qualities of Silkworms, no? Since the song itself has been discussed a lot already...  : ok:


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 30, 2006, 01:30:31 AM
Your first verse is wrong.

I already said it was in reply to someone else. I copied it from a lyrics website and, as per usual with those pages, the lyrics were wrong. I didn't notice till I had posted it.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: -Jack- on October 30, 2006, 02:24:11 AM
Lol. Yeah, Cornshucker is much worse in terms of lyrics.

On the other hand, in terms of "tone", Silkworms takes the cake.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: gandra on October 30, 2006, 03:04:34 AM
i think this song in some kind of wierd axls cration,and we won't see this song on chinese democracy


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Sillything on October 30, 2006, 04:25:07 AM
Uh hm, Used to love her???


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on October 30, 2006, 04:41:02 AM
Silkworms is one of my fav new songs. It kills CD. Its fast and violent and full of attitude.
I wish they'd play it again


 :peace:


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Amish on October 30, 2006, 06:38:55 AM
There's nothing degrading about Silk Worms, at least not in that sense.

It's about a woman who hurt someone, so now he's telling her what a bitch she is. 

Degradation towards women is more like It's So Easy with the "turn around bitch" line, or the Cornshucker song.

I find nothing wrong with ripping the heart out of a woman who ripped my heart out.  :)


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: deep pocketz on October 30, 2006, 09:18:47 AM
i think that you just learned the word "misogynistic", and wanted to use it in a sentence and make friends.? 8)

If any of my friends used that word they would get punched in the nards.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: CheapJon on October 30, 2006, 09:30:43 AM
i think that you just learned the word "misogynistic", and wanted to use it in a sentence and make friends.? 8)

maybe not to make friends but to act smart :hihi:

i like the rough lyrics and you can really get out your aggressions (don't know if that's an expression in english but itis in swedish :hihi:) when you listen to it and i love listen to songs with these kind of harsh lyrics when i'm mad :yes: although i usually listen to harder music when i'm angry or upset but you guys understand what i mean


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Evolution on October 30, 2006, 09:31:31 AM

Parasitic demon sucking acid through your heart


That IMO, is such a cool lyric : ok:


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: gandra on October 30, 2006, 09:56:54 AM
It's song about Axls bitch girlfriend (from november rain and don't cry)


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: CheapJon on October 30, 2006, 10:00:44 AM
It's song about Axls bitch girlfriend (from november rain and don't cry)

eh why would pitman and dizzy write a song about that? :confused: ???


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: gandra on October 30, 2006, 10:02:12 AM
It's song about Axls bitch girlfriend (from november rain and don't cry)

eh why would pitman and dizzy write a song about that? :confused: ???

lol,i don't know that dizzy and pitman wrote this song

i heard that song in rir 3


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: evergreen_layne on October 30, 2006, 01:15:02 PM
Silkworms

music written by:  Reed/Pitman
Lyrics by:  Axl Rose

We need some more from this collab-o!


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: lennonisgod on October 30, 2006, 01:20:11 PM
It's song about Axls bitch girlfriend (from november rain and don't cry)

Yeah I'm sure... Because he probably hasn't had a girlfriend in 15 years right??  : ok:


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 30, 2006, 01:34:51 PM
i think that you just learned the word "misogynistic", and wanted to use it in a sentence and make friends.  8)

Or perhaps I actually have a firm grasp of the English language, unlike...well..."some" (*looks at ThatGuy*).  ???


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: Mikkamakka on October 30, 2006, 02:31:56 PM
The song is so bad (and the lyrics even worse) that it's credited to Pittman and Dizzy although Axl himself said that he's 'alone lyrically'. But assuming he's done something as bad as Silkworms would be heresy.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: charlesfosterkane on October 30, 2006, 04:06:38 PM
used to love her is pretty much the take the cake make a feminist scream song of all time.


Title: Re: Is Silkworms the most misogynistic song ever performed by Guns?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 31, 2006, 11:24:00 PM
The song is so bad (and the lyrics even worse) that it's credited to Pittman and Dizzy although Axl himself said that he's 'alone lyrically'. But assuming he's done something as bad as Silkworms would be heresy.

The music to it is amazing. Someone that saw it live at HOB said it sounded great and you miss a lot of the boot. Also I think the lyrics are good. They are better than anything goes.