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i want everyones opinions on these 2 questions ive got

1. Why do ALOT of ppl on the web hate scott?
2. What do you think of scott's solo record?

And i wont accept the " cuz scott's a fake " or " he's an axl wanabe"

Well, I don't hate Scott........

But I think the general consensus is that Slash and Duff could do a lot better with a different lead singer. Then come the inevitable comparisons with Axl...

 ???

I dont think thats the general consensus.  A segment of people think that, but not the majority.

Agreed.

I'd say double platinum speaks enough for the "general consensus".

I don't. The people who hate Scott are people from the *cough* OTHER section. Mostly after that rant he published on the VR web site.


Haven't heard it, though I would like to.

Well, that was my interpretation of what the fans on HTGTH think.

EDIT: Also, I don't think you can say that Contraband would've sold that well if Velvet Revolver wasn't a 'Superband'

1. This contradicts your original point.  Scott is one reason they are a "superband."

2. If the implication is that the album wouldnt sell because the music isnt good, its a logical fallacy that for some reason assumes that your taste in music is objective and only good music sells.

3. Two of the singles topped the rock charts for weeks, suggesting the music was successful beyond the on-paper lineup.

I don't hate Scott, but I strongly dislike him as a frontman. Mainly because his voice doesn't appeal to me at all. I also think his style pretty much stink, I can almost smell Rob Halford.

i used to love and respect VR and scott. But now they take the piss, taken too long to release an album, just like the darkness did for example, scotts voice i feel on the new live videos sounds worn and not as good.

They have all silly things going on, solo careers, other bands, adverts n all that.

Just feels like VR have gone right out the window of there priority lists.

I dont like Scott couse IMO he sucks as a live perfomer , dont like his voise too.
and he went too far with his comments about Axl .

I don't hate scott and i really like contraband, but someone like sebastian bach would havde allowed them to cover more GN'R songs at there gigs

I don't like him at all as a singer and performer. I don't like his singing, his stage moves (dancing), his outfits, well basically everything about him as an entertainer etc.

I hated his comments about Axl, the ones we've all read.

I strongly believe that Slash and Duff would be better with another frontman.

I haven't heard his solo stuffs, but I do own a few STP albums and Contraband of course.

1. Well yeh, that is a reason they are a superband. I didn't say that he wasn't a big name or whatever. And if you read the original question, it was about people on this board, and I gave my honest interpretation of this board.

2. Seriously you can't say that this album would've sold much if they were an unknown band. And its more than just about the music, its the people in the band, the image the band gives across. This album sold well because GN'R fans needed their Slash and Duff "Fix" and STP fans wanted their Scott "fix". At the time this was also the only more classical rock album out there.

3. The only 2 decent songs on the album. The rest in generic. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Fall To Pieces and Slither but the other songs on the album are just bland.

1. I don't hate him. I think he's a talented songwriter, writes good lyrics (unfortunately the majority of Contraband doesn't prove it), he's an amazing live performer, but his voice ain't anything special.

2. His first solo album is pretty good with lot of industrial elements, I'm sure Uncle Axl digs that, too : ok:

2. It can be said about other bands as well.

3. It's your personal taste. I think half of the album is pretty good, true GN'R-qualitym while the other half is mediocre. IMO FTP belongs to the latter.

1. Why do ALOT of ppl on the web hate scott?

I think Scott is great. He is forever reinventing himself too. Can't wait for the new VR offering.


2. What do you think of scott's solo record?

Havent heard much but STP rocks..

Well heres my thoughts, i think most ppl on alot of different boards hate scott just cuz he aint axl, many ppl seem to think that slash, duff, and matt only sound good in gnr (which aint true). And i thought that his solo album was really good and had many different styles of music in it. Just find and listen to the song mockingbird girl, it has rock,pop, and a little bit of african drums? or something. ( By the way you can by the songs on Itunes or MP3.com). Sadly 12 bar blues totally BOMBED in sales and dident hit the charts.

Also i think scott sounds good live on CERTAIN SONGS! Just listen to big machine live and you'll see. heres a link.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2AHxWmUpTo

Dude look how long its taking GNR to take, 2 years compared to 10, but your still here

Theres a difference, VR did quite well, they were quite popular, if they leave it too long, well they have, they have lost the momentum, so the next album will prbz bum out.

empty reply? makes no sense

yeah what does that mean :confused:

i typed something but it dident show up! well ill type it again.

Most kids today think Gnr is too old and think its been to long since the last album, so its the same situation. but 2 years aint that long i mean look at green day there last 2 albums were 2 years apart, but when american idiot came out it went huge! so i dont thinks its been to long.

I do think they are taking too long and may have lost some momentum.. On the other hand I like what they are doing. I think they really want to kick some ass with this one.  Contraband was great IMO but I think they could have done some things different and are this time.  Rick Rubin will crush Josh Abraham.  Slash said Josh wasn't a guitar guy and I think Rick will bring out all VR's strengths.

probably the best statement.  : ok:

I love everything about Scott, performance, energy, voice. To say he is not an amazing singer is just naive. If you dont like his style and his voice thats fair enough. But denying his talent is a bit immature. People who follow Axl religiously cant see why Slash, Duff and Matt should have success without Axl. Thats the way I see it :peace:

i liked some of his fashions he had with VR and his performance technique, however his vocal range isnt too big i think this lets him down.

 i'm a long-time STP fan and i lOVE scott's voice.  He seems to have evolved as a performer - i saw him in STP in 95 and he was captivating, but in a very different way.  I think he is a good frontman for VR and I really like them.  It was always going to be hard if you were going to put a band together with so many ex-members of a hugely succesful group such as GnR - the "new"frontman was always gonna have a tough job.  If he was unknown, he may be slated for inexperience next to slash n duff and matt and indeed dave.  when i heard scott would be joining slash, duff and matt, I was  :drool: pretty damn excited to hear the results.

I didnt agree with the ranting that went on earlier between the VR and GnR camps - but again that was always going to happen and was most likely fuelled by media twisting and chinese whispers (not democracy!)  fk that - I am looking very forward to the new album!

scott's solo work is def worth listening to also - i think his strength is in his lyrics and vocal delivery.

 i totally agree with you dude, scott's a great frontman and since he was a VR member he's the reason ive listen to STP and his solo album. i love his solo album

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I don't like Scott

1. In my opinion Velvet will be much better with another frontman..
I don't like him....I don't like the way that he sings, the way that he looks when he is on stage. And I hate when Scott open his mouth to say stupid things (that's not true) about GNR. If GNR will make success or not, If Axl looks different (physically), It's none of his business.

2. I didn't hear his solo record yet.

it's a good album, i wanted it for ages n spent ages trying to find it cheap, but it was worth the wait. it's very obscure, more so than STP's stuff. loads of different styles, espec 'cool kiss' which is very hard n heavy n industrial almost yet still being in scott's own style.
'Where's the Man' on it is a truely outstanding track n my favourite by far.
some of the album sounds cheesey and some of it is funny e.g "and all the tangerines they taste like jelly beans" and "Jimmy was a masturbator, so he'll call back and see ya later"
i dont listen to it as often as should, but yeh i like it n its a good album. waiting for the follow up one now  : ok:

That's a pretty good post. While I've never been a big STP fan or Weiland fan, I'll admit not matter who they chose there would have been alot of backlash and second guessing. As for the 'hatred' on this site, well that's simply because the band is trying to forge ahead and make music without Axl. But who can blame them for getting back together and writing music with a new singer.? Axl may own the rights to the name but he doesn't own them and their abilities. Also, from some of the names that were being thrown around back then, they could have done alot worse!!


I can't believe I'm reading this on a Guns N Roses fansite?!!