Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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Hey all,

There most definitely *IS* a better quality version of IRS out there. I just heard a small clip of it.

Now I don't know for sure if this is a really cleaned up copy of the version we have or truly a better rip, but it definitely sounded.. well, much better. In *my* opinion, given the limited listening i've done, it is a rip directly from the Trunk CD or the original DAT tape.

This file *WILL* be available for everyone shortly, all I ask is a bit of patience on everyone's part. saint_seiya isn't lying to you. (At least, it doesn't appear that he is) so all I ask is patience and understanding as we work out an effective way to make this happen.

I'll post an update as soon as I have one.

(no, I do not have the file at this time..its still in transit.. please don't PM and badger him or me.. we'll make this happen, ok?)


-darknemus

oops, i just posted this as well. this is the same guy who helped leak the other IRS clips so i doubt he is bullshitting. i'm not sleeping any time soon.

sounds good!

Since the guy who leaked I.R.S. before confirm this, so the guy who claim to have 3 demo songs is right, because he's getting this I.R.S. version from him!!!

3 new songs coming!!!! it's cooooooool

and for all you who don't know who darknemus is...

he's a reporter at mygnr.com
he posted the original I.R.S. leak
he's a good fellow

I'm pretty sure people here know him. He posts here as well. Maybe he'll leave us an update soon!

He's a good bloke. I'll look forward to this.

I have an FTP server in case it helps for distribution.

And there is always http://www.yousendit.com etc..

Its perfect quality and has the intro, people are working on getting it up soon. More info to follow

I got http://download.yousendit.com/EDD59638A67DAE6A that one today...

(its not the "perfect" version people are talking about though...)

Soon? Is this Dizzy Reed's version of soon or....as in tonight?

that file doesnt work

I have been told be patient, so lets just wait.

Well, we certainly have been conditioned to .........  ;D

Darknemus (err Biff Tanen) won't let us down.

i got the forbidden message

Let me re-up it again, then.

Although it's not really the "surprise" anyone is thinking of..it's just a better quality version of the first one.

yes, i've heard this version a while back.

thanks

well...yousendit is being dumb tonight...i'll try megaupload i guess...or someone else could try uploading it (since other people are getting it now, too)

Is this the bloody roses remaster?

also try rapidshare.de  : ok:

Dark said it was new, the version Dark is talking about won;t be the bloody roses remix as that has been around forever

Wait...are we all talking about the same version of IRS here? Some people are saying there is a very clean version and others say it's just a little bit better than the original (which is not saying much).

Yeah, which one is the one at the yousendit link i can't download

The version that is being worked on is rumored from the CD itself.

Man this is great.
I'm glad this place is up and running again as well.
Everytime someone posts something about this it gets deleted at another forum.

I'll be checking in on this often.
Thanks for the update.

Anyone happen to know or have an estimated time frame?

Dark has to be talking about a new one, as he helped many a ssoul to the bloody roses remix last year.  I think others are confusing the situation, I do believe there is a clean version floating out there now.  Guess we just need patience...

madison just sent me this PM:

Yes.
But I'm waiting for the link to be posted.
There are two songs.
There's no point in talking about them until somebody posts the links....

i asked her "have you heard any of the new songs?"

I feel like a fucking twat,because of all the confusion over at mygnrforum,I pmed Dark.

Dark if you read this,sorry for bugging you man

F*ck Fear

this guy "wes" claims he got 3 studio tracks in 2004. so i'd say, well this is all based on assumption that they are real, they aren't necessarily the final versions. that could've been as much as two years ago.

Jesus , if theres two songs  yer looking at 6 megs each .. 12 puny megs. Does it take this long to upload them and post the links?!!

Then you have someone like Madision saying that yes she has heard them but makes no effort to share them?  ???

I was talking about a differen't version than most people here...most people here want the new "perfect" demo (like me), the one I was going to post was a better quality version of the first IRS...but my internet is going crazy and I can't.

The guy that has them has dial up.

If this is true, then why is she deleting everything that gets posted? Surely there is a good reason, i mean a lot of people are just fucking around, but this is driving people crazy.

Oh well .. I'll hold out for 30 - 40 more minutes , if they aint posted hopefully I'll snag em tomorrow. Someone here better hook me up , ok?!  :peace:

she wants it to be as organized as possible.

ah...this is quite exciting! I haven't been this excited since the infamous "riddles" thread! ?:hihi:

she's on it then. haha... I'm talking seconds after threads are started they are gone. the fake ones i can understand, but even a thread just discussing the situation is deleted.

its because shes hitler...

someone pm me it please when its available or get me at AIM: hogg2500

Wow, Christmas comes early.

I will gladly send Axl some money for these demos, just to stay honest.

Maddening.


I dont see anything happening over on the "other forum". Are we talking about the main board, or the downloads section?

I'm dealing with three sets of people -- and the first one is on dialup. That's what's taking the time. Now the first guy is thinking he doesn't want the second track posted.
Patience ... dude.

-madison

Who is uploading it? Wes the original poster isnt on mygnr anymore, hes offline!

Jonx

then bviously she doesnt have and hasnt heard either song. lol

A Leak of 2 or 3 songs could speed up the process of release of Chinese Democracy , Right ??

I hope noone flake's out on us and doesn't share the other song as well,that would kind of suck.

It may force them to spill the beans a bit early i suppose.

at the very least it would tide over some very hungry music starved fans.

It'll soon be friday and I can easily envision drinking a few while listening to 2 new songs.  :beer:

or it may be a little bit of viral advertising......

Hey, just throwing it out there-

Is Madison "hot" ?

i'm under the impression darknemus is.

15 more mins or so. People are working very hard to get it up

Not if this leak has been approved by Axl.

To the people working very hard to get it up................THANK YOU : ok:

so do you think we'll have to wait just more 15 min to heard new music??? :D:D:D
i need to sleep but i'll wait  :P

Thanks, and was Darknemus the original source of the other IRS leak? I hope this happens, lets just hope no one bails!

Jonx

Yeah this is all very convenient isnt it! I wouldnt be suprised if this was all planned in advance!

Jonx

My lady friend is working hard to get me up too , but I wanna stay glued to the board to see this all goes down.  ;D

*sigh*

15 minutes , ok .. I'll hang in there ... maybe "get down" with some new GNR playing? Mmmmm , that be nice actually.

My erection starts ... in 15 minutes.  :rofl:

Like I said earlier, viral advertising to create a buzz then announce the album and tour. It could be what's going on, but we will just have to wait and see...

Good Luck :P

Well Axl's been out and about alot , obviously he's played the album or portions of it for some friends and also in a club. Maybe he wants to throw a couple racks out there and garner a reaction from the hardcore fanbase?

it's out!

man, with all of the optimism about CD lately, I really hope this is IT for real. ?if CD doesn't come out soon, I don't even want to begin to think about how this board will react...

the forum will crash here in a few seconds.

FUCK!!!

That rocks!!!1

I told you guys it wasn't a remaster :-P  Enjoy.

And thanks again to Saint - who came through, big time.

-darknemus

I GOT IT. AMAZING!!!

omg, i'm gonna have a GN'fn'R orgasm! ?: ok:

Fucking awsome!!!!
Thanks Dark

Thanks Dark. Unbeliveable.

ONE MORE!!! IF YOU CAN DO IT!!!

OH MY FUCKING GOD!

Are there more....... Im Hungry!

Jonx

This fuckin rocks!!!!

Not to be greedy, but what about the other two song?

I just got it up!! lol

Sweet ass clean version!!!

Chinese Democracy is gunna fucking rule , theres no doubt , none.

yes, it is absolutely amazing. chinese democracy officially starts now! haha....

So ..will you post the other music?? :D:D:D:D

VERY COOL. THANKS EVERYONE!!!!!

Is another one coming!??!?

A million times "THANK YOU"

This is so fuckin great!!

axl sounds fucking amazing. i'm sorry for ever doubting...

I'll probably catch hell for this but umm ... you hear Bucket on that second solo?!  :love:

Please Axl , I beg you ... dont erase his parts.  :peace:

Thank you to all involved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oMG, that guitar sounds so good now.

CLEAN RIP. The production on this album is going to rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

W.A.R is the fucking man.
He sounds better than ever boys and girls :beer:

Thanks darknemus!  :beer:

Our chicken lovin' friend kicks ass on this.

I hope now this puts the question of Axl's voice to rest. Fuck yea!!!  :beer:

Thank Saint Seiya.. I ws only responsible for helping him out.  He's the bomb on this one, not me :)

-darknemus

COOL !!

THERE?S MORE ?!

Thanks to saint seiya too, then  :beer:

THANKKKKKKKKSSSSSS!!

Thank you! ?Weren't there three songs? ?New IRS and two new ones? ?If so, any word on when to expect those?

I don't have the words to express my thanks.   : ok:

AHH!! holy fuck this rocks!!

i love it

the file is titled "01 i.r.s.mp3" so where is 02, 03, etc.? haha.. i'm greedy.

Axl's voiced paired with Buckets guitar tone .. match made in heaven.

I think this cd is only 01, 02 and 03

thanks dark and saint

I love it! ?: ok: If we get the other tracks that'd be fucking great! Hope Axl isn't to pissed! ?:hihi:

Yeah and I really like the heavy rhythm playing on this track, couldnt hear it well on the earlier versions.

It is really really good,

I agree about Bucket. Get this guy back. Dump Finck if you have to. Sorry but man, i love that solo.

So
will be there more tracks ??
people are getting ansious :P

could... ::gulp:: ...we possibly hear a studio version of .... ::gulp:: ...Madagascar? ?:)

THANKS YOU SO FUCKING MUCH.  here's hoping we can get just a few more taste of CD until the release.



I'm no studio expert, but could this be a single for Chinese Democracy?  I mean could htis song be a single that is going to be released?

I now know why you use Saint in your user name,because you are one my friend.
Thanks :beer:

Regardless of what I've said in the past about one of the people involved with this, I would just like to say thanks. You came through for the community big time, and it will never be forgotten by anybody.

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The people who made this happen are fuckin legends.

It's 1 am and I have to be up in a few hours but I said fuck it and put on some coffee , burnt this to a cd and now it's on BLASTING on my home stereo system , on repeat.  :beer:

There was also "There Was a Time" and "Better" right?

so, these "leaks," where do they come from? ?how are people getting a hold of these?

Thanks!!!!!!!! : ok:

I didn't think the Bucket made any differnce either way, but after that last solo, BRING BACK BUCKET!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, this is awesome!

Wow...........cool.


 8)

yea where did this come from????

also, imagine what the other songs are like if this isnt even one of the 10 best supposedly!!!!!!!!!!!

The three tracks are from the eddie trunk cd.

Speculation going on if the other two have vocals or not.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wow, TWAT would be a dream but perhaps too much for free.

This is CERTAINLY not the final version remember. ?It's most likely just going to get better and better.

this is a beautiful day


thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ? :peace:

Are you in the process of getting them now?

Jonx

Guess it's a good time to quote axl , "people will hear music this year"

Now run to blabbermouth and all rumor sites , burn this as a wav file on cd-r and scrawl "gnr-irs-chinese democracy" on it and send it to all yer local radio stations.

heh!

ok, so we're all getting excited about these songs, which is awesome, but this really doesn't mean that CD is coming soon, right? ?these are just from the eddie trunk cd...which is still cool...

I swear,if nothing comes out of this year,I'll be happy having got this

my eternal thanks to all who made this possible

Lets give credit where credit is due- its not the Eddie Trunk CD-

Its the MIKE PIAZZA CD!   : ok:


Thanks to everyone who got this up, I am grateful.

its still crazy to me how mike piazza got a hold of this demo cd or whatever... i would love to know the full story here.

that lil "shiver" in axl's voice at about the 3 minute mark .. just classic axl fucking rose!!

LOL.

That hit the mark.

Right on.

We can all go to sleep until next year.

Chief? ?Is that you? ?Like the Chief I used to know? ?If so, I've missed you!

The Trunk disc had 3 tracks + 3 instrumental versions of the same.  We're not 100% certain this came from that disc - but I tend to think it might have.

-darknemus

Yeah...it was part of the deal he signed with San Diego.

San Diego Management: "Sure, we'll take Piazza...but only if he comes with that damn GN'R leak!"

Mike Piazza: "Gladly...Axl never liked me or the NY Mets so F him!"

 :hihi:

Hey Nemus, any update on the other track?

Does the kid have cold feet?

but this tracks will be avaliable for download ?

Long time no see dark!  Good to see you haven't lost your touch in this game.

I'm confident the rest of the tracks will leak.  As far as who leaks them and when - well, that's not up to me, as I don't have the source material.  All I can say is that I feel patience is a virtue.  I did tell you guys a few months ago that the Trunk disc was out there, after all  :)

-darknemus

Thanks for getting this for us all!!!!!!

Thanks again to everyone who made this possible. :beer:

I've shared this with a few people - general concensus is that Axl's voice sounds bad.

Huge thanks to whoever leaked it.

 :beer:

What kind of timescale are we talking about?

Are we done for the night?

Thanks so much btw. You have made us gunners proud.

yep! glad that you are still around... :)

Does anyone else think that this was a deliberate leak to build hype?

Dark is the legend

umm ok..... i suggest not going to the sludge to ask about this.

Stupid post.

This ROCKS!  Thanks dudes!

He. Pilferk, and myself used to be pretty good at working on riddles hahah. ?:no:

do you think his voice sounds bad? i think it sounds great!

i guess it is somewhat different than it used to be but that his been discussed to death ....

I'm not a legend.  Just another fan who wants to see all of us enjoy that which is GNR.  :)

And yes, Chodem is a freaking riddle master - as is Pilferk.

-darknemus

Thanks Dark!

Let's not get greedy now ?;D

Yeah, I was gonna post this. I remember that either Piazza or Trump said at the time that the disc had 6 tracks, 3 songs with vocals (IRS was track # 1), and then 3 instrumental versions of the same 3 tracks.

For those who don't know the story, Piazza said that he just checked his mail one day and there was an envelope with a CD-R inside that simply said "GNR IRS". He was the occasional guest on Eddie Trunk's radio show in New York, so he brought the cd with him and they played IRS unannounced. The next day, Trunk was ordered to return the cd and not play it again, and the song was erased from the tapes of his show. It turns out that someone taped it off the radio that night, and a chunk of his recording was released online about a year ago (very poor sounding version). Now apparently we have the full studio version, which is not to say that the song has not been altered since then by the band.

Thanks to Dark and everyone else involved! I am downloading this track as we speak with my terribly slow dial-up connection and I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR IT!!!!!!!

Woo hoo, IRS starts now!

02:50 AM
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and again and again and again

Thanks guys... When the two other new songs are gonna leak? :headbanger:

Thats a good idea! : ok:

hahahah irs starts now. thanks for the story axlsalinger... how wild!!

thank you again to everyone who got this out there.. we have been dying for a drop in the desert so to speak.....

Chief,
Yes, I think this was an approved leak.
How fast were they taken down lasty year?

simply amazing... A BIG FUK YOU TO ANY1 WHO HAS EVER DOUBTED THIS BAND.....


CD IS GONNA BE AMAZING

I haven't heard this yet (as I can't download mp3's at work), can anyone tell me if this is the full song?

The last demo we had sounded like it cut in and missed a part at the start.

Definitely some sort of guerilla marketing campaign- that Slash is obviously a part of. Does he get some $$$ from a CD release at all?

Numerous Axl appearances and the interview
Slash blasting out the release date
Best leak yet of new material

DEFINITELY a coordinated effort which can only mean good news sometime this year.

Metallex 78 - It's the full blown song in great quality.  :beer:

Can someone please email it to me, I want to get it before the link comes down.
It would very be much appreciated :beer:

My email is: alex_silady@nfimporters.com.au

Thanks in advance!

Full blown DEMO song in good quality.

Certainly not the final product, but kicks arse.

Just throwing this out there ... Theres usually always a mod logged on here. Seems strange theres no mod here tonight with all this going on and nobody to remove the link.  :P

Again , could be pure coincidence , and probably is.

But again , send this to all your local radio stations!!!

i don't understand how slash would get any $$$$ from this new album unless he wrote part of one of the songs, which i highly doubt.  from my impressions the songs that will come out are mainly newer (written shortly before and since buckethead joined).

Metallex78 - on its way.

Totally, its awesome....but nothing beats the scream that comes right after...how long does he hold that for, a full ten seconds?  Insane :)

and after the scream .....  the stutter switch (red button) comes in and .. ahhhhhh , cant take it. It's shit like this that will always make me wonder (if they remove his parts) how the album woulda sounded WITH his parts. (buckethead)

Thanks, you rock!

It's times like these that I really love our little GN'R community! :beer:

I just sent it to my local rock station!

I know its so fucking awesome!! haha, I feel like a little kid again hahah.  That really is a sick solo.  At the risk of starting an uneccessary and pointless debate....is it just me or does that solo sound like original GNR?  Just fucking ridiculous.

 ;D  : ok:

long time no talk mrice , hope you are doing well! Your "husband" thread "over there" gave me uite the scare for a minute.  :peace:

that is by far the best of the new material i've heard

let us know if they play it or what happens.....

Fuck it's time to start posting in the Forum again. Havent in quite a while..

FUCK I'm blown away. This is so much clearner that it took me a second for me to kick in, and then I screamed..GRRRRRR :crying: sooo awesome!!

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

Wow, I can only imagine the ripple effect this is going to have.  I can't help but think this wasn't a planned leak...the song just sounds too raw and unpolished for Axl to give it the green light given how guarded hes been with the material.  If they were so quick to shut down Trunk's leak I can only imagine if hundreds of radio stations start playing this tomorrow.  Are we going to see TONS of lawsuits from Axl's camp?  Is this going to be their excuse to release CD now for fear of more leaks?

Holy Crap....its coming...its really coming isn't it?  Chinese Democracy is f'ing coming!! How the hell am I gonna sleep tonight :)

SAUL!!! ?Hey... ?I've missed you. ?Are you doing all right?

Chief! ?I've missed you too!

I'm listening, so I'll let you know. ?The DJ sounded all excited when I was getting his e-mail address!

I'm not sure if I'm gunna even bother.

its flat out amazing, if chinese democracy has songs like this GNR will take over the world again..

now...
about this other song that this guy has............when is he gonna post that???? ???

haha im happy with this but another new song???? holy shit

You know.... I am almost at a loss for words. That shit IRS mp3 we originally had was the coolest shit...and know the music gods dropped this. The fucking best shit. Our first taste of a studio recording from CD. I don't know who put this out there for us...but whoeever did...my deepest fucking thanks to you ?:beer:

This is my personal favorite GNR song since the megaton shit on Appetite. I said it before...and this just became official. Signed and sealed. Fuck...I am going to celebrate. No shit...I am heading into the garage...just got this on my ipod...and I am going to the fucking garden with it. Love you fuckers.

I really hope Axl is sitting in front of his computer right now, watching us drool over IRS, smoking a cigar with a big smile across his goatied face. ?Finally someting good makes it to "the big garbage can." ?

I'm doing pretty good. A ton of significant changes in my life/lifestyle but hey , shit happens over the course of a couple years right? Not to get off topic here but just so you know , when you were going through the "rough" stuff you had/have going on you were in my thoughts and prayers.

Much love!  :peace:

p.s. , I encourage all of you to do the same as mrice , burn this onto a cd-r and send it to your local radio stations. Dont even put a return add on yer envelope , just label the cd-r GNR-New Single-IRS

 :beer:

I just called and asked if they wanted it.  He said hell ya and got all excited.  Then I e-mailed it to him.

I just sent it to WBAB in NYC (Long Island). I figured q104.3- Eddie Trunks station would run away from it!

If any station starts to play it, give us the heads up....most radio stations have their station available via the net.

But, I'm wondering, why are you guys so intent on having regular radio play it?  I'm not slamming the idea...just wondering why the call to action.

You think Piazza wants to hear it again?   :hihi:

good work guys!!

Am I the only one wondering where the mods are and why they havent taken down the link yet?!  ???

Wow. This has been a whirlwind of a night.

how long befor it get's taken down?

There aren't many people outside of these message boards that even know there is still a GN'R out there. ?

This forum is going to get fucking busy once Europe wakes up!!!!!

If this wasnt an intentional leak id imagine the GnR camp are going to be a tad pissed. It will be interesting to see what Jarmo does when he wakes up, since this site is on Sanctuarys servers, i wonder what they will do?

Jonx

cause it gets GNR "out there" again ... free promotion for anything else that may happen later this year. I wanna see what DJ's think of this song and the mainstream public , the non hardcore GNR fanbase.

Tomorrow I'm gonna take copies to two local stations.

yea, i think that radio stations should play the official singles actually... but this should be interesting.....

had to send it to the morning show on 105.5  WDHA in Dover NJ

I think it will be a love/hate thing.  Some DJ's are going to trash his vocals while not even mentioning that this is a demo.  Those idiots will hold it up to album quality standards.  I don't think that most people are going to realize that for a demo, Axl sounds pretty good.

True dat. Nice suprise for em though, eh?

I like the song...a LOT better with the new quality. Very encouraging.

Considering management went ape shit when the original was played on the radio i dont think anyone will play it. The legal ramifications would be huge!

Jonx

I agree, the buzz is gonna be great, esp for the mainstream......but I hope it doesn't get a bad reaction...it is a rough cut after all.  Sounds awesome to me, but compared to the first leak its just beyond amazing.  I am tempted myself to send it out to my local stations...but I don't want to get sued ;) haha

I'm not sure whats more exciting...the leak of the song or the repurcussions to follow!!!!!

awsome... thanks for sharing

i just emailed it to jonathan clark at the q104.3

biggest rock station in the country.

well if anyone does send it to radio stations I would only send it with no return addy.  :nervous:

blank cd-r with GNR-IRS-Demo-Chinese Democracy on it.  :beer:

I just would love to see this awesome song get some airplay before it AGAIN gets covered up and kept away from the "normal" public.

Yeah, thats what I'm afraid of.  Can you imagine if the leak pisses off Axl to the point where he holds off on a CD release :(  People aren't going to understand its just a demo and has a lot of work left to be done to it.  This reminds me of the reviews of "the hulk" before all the special effects were done and it got PANNED before it even had a chance (was a pretty decent flick to me too).

Wow, I really can't wait to see what happens with all of this!!!  If this wasn't intentional....watch out b/c the SHIT IS GONNA HIT THE FAN.

DJ here replied to my e-mail...

"we'll see if we ca play this without getting busted. Thanks a ton"

well it's 12:30am EST and about 90 people are viewing this topic

what station is that?  What city?

it's on blabbermouth now too!

that would be really pathetic, at this point Axl cant doubt the release of CD because of a demo leak. Its been too long and it would just be stupid. He has to release CD soon and this time it better be the f'n word!

I emailed it to 107.3 here in Jacksonville, FL. I sent it to Lex and Terry. ?:peace:

well if DJ's mention it on the air and not play it at leat people will know new music does exist.......and the song kicks ass

Axl wouldnt be playing this stuff for strangers in NYC if he wasnt close.  Its too easy to bootleg, burn and rip music now.

I am sure Merck will shut this down but only because it makes business sense to do so. I believe there will be two GNR releases this year- GH2 with some new songs and ChiDem.

94 Rock in Albuquerque

He hasn't mentioned it either. ?I've been listening since I e-mailed it to him.

I don't think it makes good business sense to shut it down.  Not in today's music world.  Guns N' Roses is relatively unknown these days.  Axl needs this.

Good point...its kinda like a tease...send it out, let some people get their hands on it, and then taketh away!  Create demand for it...people will be emailing their friends to see if they got it, searching the web for places (like GNR forums perhaps??) that still have a link to it somewhere.....savvy...very savvy. 

Also, I love how everyone is so upbeat and working together in a sense...this is f'ing awesome :)

Big thanks to the cats responsible for this getting out. :beer: :beer: :beer:

Stinson and Fink drive this song, and Bucket is great. ?But damn, I can almost picture FinK with shit-eating grin on his face just rocking! ?Ryhthm guitar in the second half of the song is phenomenal--Navarro like!

Lol, how do we know this is not Navarro? Nobody knows how old this song is. Shit, it couldhave Duff on it for christ sakes.

Just kidding, I really like the guitars a lot. Wish it "rocked" a bit more but I know it's a demo. This sounds 10000% better than that shit quality thing we got a couple years ago.

Just shot this off to Howard Stern. That dude played Oh My God before anyone else...I think he'd consider it...


...cause this fucking owns these bitch ass clowns that have gone rapant in the industry calling themselves bands and musicians. Fuck these fools. It is time to bow down to their master.

I pooned out and just emailed them that a leak was out there.....too paranoid to send an actual file haha.  Tomorrow is going to be VERY interesting to say the least.

I have to admit "There was a Time" when I was very close to losing faith in Axl, but now I'm just fuckin' blown away.
this is proof that Axl can still ROCK and his voice is incredible, and this is just a demo, wow, imagen how the real studio version sounds. :smoking: :beer:

Has anyone compared the first leak to the new one and caught any differences (besides quality obviously)??

thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rakenrol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:

Sounds amazing and has revamped hy hopes for C.D. Burned it onto a CD for safe keeping.

For starters we now know how IRS starts.

I think it's the same song - just a (much) cleaner source.

And the first leak has no intro,it starts at the chorus

any info on the other two songs... thrilled about this one and don't mean to be greedy... but wicked curious... the cornhucker demo and the irs demo in the same week.. prob the sweetest week to be a gnr fan since 01-01-01

It's a better listen. I have no need to compare.. This one is the shit and the other sucked. Simple in my eyes.

wasn't saying compare which is better....i'm just wondering if its the SAME recording (just a cleaner version) or if the new leak is in fact a more up to date version of the song.

Ah.. cleaned up I think. I am happy that we got to hear the begining this time.

Me too, I dig the intro......If this is going to be on CD I bet the guitars will be more dramatic the first time you hear them at the 0:22 mark.

ok, i need to go to bed now...haha. 

I personally liked the old demo more. =/. Worse quality but this just seems a bit boring.

But im excited and I realize its just a demo. Buckets solo is like non-hearable.. but still good

Im just trying to balance the excitement.

its the same

Wasnt last years version a recording from the radio- Eddie Trunk show and hence why it sounded crappy was missing the beginning?

If I had any money, I'd bet this is *NOT* the version from the previous leak. I'm hearing a few too many things differently. Granted the first leak was a piss poor version, I think this is a newer version. I have a superb ear to detail. ?Like I said, I'd bet money...

Give times from each track to compare... I think they're the same

FUCK YEAH MUTHAFUKKKAS!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o


yes yes fuckin' yes!!!!!!!! :drool: :drool: :drool: :beer: :beer: :beer: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :o :o

im in shock...fuckin' BIG TIME!!!


ITS COMIN'.....2006.   HELL YEAH!!!

ClintroN - The Intergalactic Re-Birth!!

While it's good to get a clean version of this song, I don't believe that this means CD will be coming any sooner. It just means that demo cd from a few years ago is in circulation.

i'm sure someone has mentioned this.... but did anyone notice that the date on the mp3 was from 2004...  i though that this could have been from a new single that will be given to radio stations... guess its just the piazza demo... what ever it is its a great song.. and i think its the best new material yet.. blues is real close second and silk worms is still last...

 :o Fanfreakin'tastic.... send it out to every radio station out there.  Axl can't do too much if it's out there.  Maybe it will force him to come out with CD once and for all.  How awesome would it be if it charted as a demo leaked out on the internet.  FUCK YES GNR!

While we're at it....send out the fact that a NEW GNR song has been leaked to local and national news agencies.  Can't hurt right?

Europe has woken........

And it's a great morning!!!

Cheers to Dark & Saint who got this thing up! :beer:

Holy shit!!!!! Better Demo is it another track off the demo cd???????

Yep. Just realized there is a whole other topic for Better.

Where do i DL it at?? I just read this shit and almost fell outta my chair. My computer has juice on it now.

 8) Awesome! :beer:

IRS is straight up in your face!!!!!!!!!!!!


I love the guitar parts and acoustic or clean electric or whatever is in there.... sounds like acoustic though. I wonder who is playing that? Maybe Axl?

The new version rocks. The rhythm section adds a lot to the song.

This is so great!! What a powerfull song!

And that last scream and then the solo :o :drool: : ok:

 :yes: You're so right  :drool:

I like the whole package, but I really like how it starts!

Is it me or could the intro to IRS just be the interlude  that tommy was talking about a couple of months ago?

I just got it off OINK and it is FUCKING AMAZING....






WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ITS COMING




YEAH




WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



sorry but I have been waiting 8 god dman years

This is going to be discussed between mods, but until then, please post NO LINKS to this song. They will be deleted. Thank you for your understanding.

Yeah, I understand this.


But does anyone think the timing of this is a little...well...perfect?  Maybe Axl wanted a song to get leaked to create a stir again, maybe for a March release like Slash said



oh my god, im going out of my mind right now....


btw how are people hearing Better (no links to song but hints would be nice :) )

What the hell is goin on!!! This is fuking awesome.


Can someone PM me  with IRS i cant find it.   MUST HAVE : ok: : ok:

PM sent

I love this song, but are the drums a bit boring or not so cool or is that just me?

You will probably be more happy once the final cut is in your hands.........

I think its just a drum machine.  Most bands just use those for demos b/c cutting drum tracks are the most expensive, tedious and time consuming parts of recording...

ugh, i hate being late to the party, i really can't wait for irs

Just sent you some links :)

now there's a lesson in not going to bed early!!

This rocks!!!

or waking up like four hours before you usually do! i've never felt better waking up early! NEVER!

Its just like this girl from mygnr told me," All these years of coming to the forums every day has finally paid off". :hihi: :beer:

So are these tracks coming from the mike piazza demo 3 yrs ago, or is this comin from elsewhere.

that, along with the rest surrounding CD, is part of the mystery 8)

Not catching what u mean,           so it is coming from that demo 3yrs ago or not.

can somebody send me a copy?? :)

sent..........

Something I noticed: If you look at the info for 'IRS', it says "Year: 2004", and if you look at 'Better', it says "Year: ?". If they were from the same cd, wouldn't they have the same date?..? ???

Aaargh...I just woke up and now am totally hyper....and read through all 14 pages without finding a link to the IRS track....can someone please help me out????

*edited, didn't know we were not allowed to post.

Yeah, but anyone can change those details on an mp3 file, so who knows?

sent them to you through pm

I don't know if we are allowed to post them on this thread.......

Sorry, I just edited...

aGAIN, what can I saY?? I love the song, sounds great!!!. It's coming soon :beer:

what the hell is going on here?
anyway,can someone send me the new songs via PM?
thanks a lot!  :)

Holy shit guys. This is crazy. I don't even know what my username is on this forum. On the other one I'm W. Axl Kev.

Better is fuckin' emmense. Why the hsit am I at school when I should be rocking out! :beer:

strange after all the hype that it now gets leaked i wonder if its been done deliberatly cool songs by the way many thanks to the leaker

www.gnrbar.com and www.gnr.com.ar  (http://www.gnr.com.ar) both still have the songs up if anybody is interested.? :yes:

http://gnrsucks.com/2ti/viewforum.php?f=1

you've got it man!

please can I have a working link or the tracks as well?

Sorry to be a pain and a leech, but I just can't wait to hear these tracks.

GNFNR Forever!!

go to chinesedemocracy.com

how did the studio version get leaked?

I don't think this is the final version but I could be wrong. Not sure how it was linked though. Rumours are that its from the actual Mike Piazza/Eddie Trunk CD.

somebody please send me better and the new IRS please!
bbruinsfan27@yahoo.com

thanks

I just sent you better

chinesedemocracy.com is running really slow.  i have better but could somone please email me the new IRS?  rpm23@georgetown.edu

many, many thanks

I feel dumb for some reason...

But can someone mail me Better too?  ::)

k74510@student.hse.fi

Thanks! Appreciate it!

Please send me IRS I have the other. ABlakemore74@hotmail.com.

could someone email me better please? andyfenwick@hotmail.com

cheers 2na

Thank you so much! These songs and now a snow day off work! gotta love it!!!

check your email

Seriously, just go to 2TI. We don't get a lot of traffic there so you shouldn't have a problem getting in.

You can find both songs in here: http://gnrsucks.com/2ti/viewforum.php?f=1

great thanks!

If the links stop working then just let me know. It'd also help if others could load them to sites like Yousendit or MegaUpload. You can post the links at 2TI since you can't do it here.

I'm adding new links now in case the others go down. I'm off to bed.

Hey guys - can someone email me the link?  Briank05@yahoo.com

Sorry to be a pain in the ass - but I have to hear this!!!!

Thank you in advance everyone! :beer:

This can't be the finished mixed song because the drumming doesn't fit the songs. Please don't tell me they're gonna use a drum machine for the album. IRS sounds great but the drumming just doesn't fit the song at all!! Sounds like Guns N Roses with Depeche Mode beats lol

How did this all happen anyway?

Did mygnr get permission to post these in the beginning?

It's just a demo.  No chance that it's the final release.

i thought the same, i never thought too much about drumming in general, but this song really got me thinking...

it will be better tho hence this is just a demo!

A new poster called "Wes" came to MyGNR and claimed that he had three CD quality songs.? IRS, Better and TWAT.

We ended up with IRS and an extract from Better.? ?Not sure if a full Better exists or if TWAT exists.

But did they get permission to post them? I find it odd that they would post them directly on their forum without permission considering how illegal that is  :hihi:

That's a fine line. ? MyGNR didn't post the thread. ?The links to the files were distributed by the users. ? The files themselves were never posted on MyGNR and AFAIK the links to the files were never posted by the MyGNR staff. ? Ditto on HTGTH I believe.

Obviously in any forum where posts are not queued for moderation before posting there is always an element of risk and you're always in "clean-up" mode.

It's not drums, it's beats.
When the "real" drums start to rock, it's great. Brain is very good.

Well, i think they did it over PM, on the boards.. i dont know if they posted direct links... or did thay? Anyway... kind of sad actually! We need info from the managment now! And stop this leaking! i really dont like new GNR songs leak. i want them on CD! not a poor demo downloaded from internet

Really, what can management expect? ?They give us no info and every other month we've heard it's coming soon for the past few years. ?How can they expect us to respect their wishes when they don't respect us enough to have some simple form of communication. ?No other band out there has had to put up with the shit that the GN'R community has and we're the most loyal bar none.

That's cool then ?: ok:

These games need to stop. either release the album, drop axl from the label, or shut the fuck up.

I find it odd too, especially considering that IRS has been taboo to even mention on mygnr since the poor quality leak last year. ?Now, all of a sudden, it is not only "ok" to talk about it, but they allowed links to a studio quality version of the same song. ?Were the admins allowing it to be posted until they had *confirmation* that these tracks were indeed GNR?

It's obvious this is a higher quality version of the exact same song that was leaked last year...so if Management told them to remove all IRS leaks last year for a poor quality copy, why wouldn't the same hold true for a studio quality leak of the same song?

It doesn't make sense to me unless there is more to this leak that they are letting on.

I guess they allowed it cause there was no stopping to it.... beyond control..

I don't think it's really a question of "permission" or "allowing".

Neither here nor MyGNR queue posts for moderation before posting so users can post what the hell they want.

There is nothing that either forum could do to stop me posting a link to the entire Chi-Dem CD if I had it.  All they can do it try to manage the posts and contact the "officials" to get direction.

Did anyone who sent the songs/clips to their radio stations ever hear back from them?  Did any of the stations actually play bits and pieces of songs??

Someone should send the clips to David Lee Roth. He wouldnt know any better and would play this thing.

Maybe, but I was following mygnr closely for a couple hours leading up the the initial leak post. ? There were many, many threads started by people claiming to have heard the track. ?Madison (the admin) would, within, minutes delete the threads and tell people "Do not make posts claiming to have heard the song, unless you have a link to the actual song". ?Thus, almost encouraging people to post the links to download the song. ? ?They *could* have deleted the download links just as quickly as they were deleting the other posts that came prior to the leak if they wanted to.

Maybe the site admins are getting tired of the run-a-round too and they want to push managements buttons as far as they can. ?Who knows.

While the songs are the most important thing to me...I must say I am REALLY interested to know where these came from, who leaked them and how did they aquire the songs in the first place?  how long were they sitting on them? 

My guess is we'll never really know.  Part of me feels like it was intentional (the timing just seems really coincidental) but then again it seems Axl is pretty guarded when it comes to any leaks.  I don't know.  Can anyone shed some light on to this? if not I'm just going to listen to these songs for the 1,000,000 time!  Rock on dudes.

IMO the new irs leak isnt realy a leak. Axl released it. every band has thos songs they do that dont make it to CD but there alwas there. i think IRS n Better are just that. in 10 years Axl could have and probly has mastered like 5 CDs worthy of the title end less classic. i mean look at To Pac. yeah hes a faggot rapper but hes been dead for ever and new matterial he worked on keeps surfaceing. i think that these songs are from the bottem of the list and Axl let it be aired once on the radio a few years ago to shake shit up a little cause he new he has somthing special and now he throws out a good quality verson just before the release of his album. hes recreating the excitment that was here 8 years ago. makeing people want GNR so bad that cant fucking live with out it. to me a leak of the same song twice seems thought out. and two songs at once is like a gift from god. most of the time things are to good to be true. i think that Axl is the kind of person that would do somthing just like this.

can someone send me what i'm missing.  i woke up and am going crazy because i can't hear the new stuff i've been waiting years for.

email is pewing33ny@aol.com or AIM pewing33ny

The most likely situation seems to be that these are the so-called Trunk songs. ? It was often speculated that they high quality versions might find their way onto the net someday. ? Yesterday was someday.

I don't think it's a "sneak" release by the band or anything like that.

Agree about the source.....but who leaked them? how did they get the CD to begin with? And why yesterday when the Trunk CD has been out for a few years now?  Why can't people send me CDs with leaked songs on them? haha.

Like I said, if I never know the answer to those ?s I won't lose any sleep, the fact that I have the songs is all I really care about, but it'd still be nice to know.

Please stop flooding threads with requests for the songs. Soon we will have 5 different 20-page threads full of that and it will be unmanageable. If you really want them, contact people privately and I'm sure someone will be willing to give them to you.

Wanna know why the links were posted? Cause we're hungry and fed up and starting a revolution baby! Fuck the street teams , we are gunna come together as one like thinking unit and storm the record studios and axl's mansion and the sanctuary offices , we're gunna kick down doors , bust windows , heads are gunna roll and we're gunna walk away with the master tapes and nobodys gunna stop us.

Stand up and fight the tyranny , cover ups and silence , people will hear music this year cause we're taking it into our hands!!! PM me for details!

The revolution starts now!!!!!


LOL , not really ... These songs just make me so hyper , what a sight though , every board member bumrushing studios and record label offices? Hahaha. I've gone out of my mind and it feels so much better then it did yesterday

personally i don't give a fuck where they cam from as i have them now :)

who knows, the band may have let them be posted for a few hours, let as many people get there hands on them as possible, than issue the usual cease and desist orders and making people remove all links, etc........just to get a sense of the overall feedback of the songs

If anyone from the band, label, amanegement is reading this, they should see the overall feedback is very positive and there is a very large demand for new GnR material

Last night after midnight in the East Coast, there were about 100 people on this thread; not to mention the traffic on other GnR sites when this was happening

One of the guys who uploaded it had over 1500 downloads in less than 12 hours and it wasn't even on a GnR board

And as far as Merck not wanting any mention, link, etc of the leak; if the album would just be released, or a single from the album would just be released to tide fans over, or a statment of some kind with some kind of plans for the band, anicipated release date, etc., I could see fans being a bit more respectful of their wishes.  As it stands now, i'd say it's just too fucking bad it was leaked  :'(, it's only been 7 years since we heard original material (and O My God sucked) and over 14 years since we had an album of original material :'( :no:

If you play the first 20 seconds backwards you can clearly hear Axl singing " Axl is Dead"

Uhm.................... :rofl:

well, you can listen to it backwards, and I'll just listen to it regular

wonder how many will try this?  :rofl:

if you listen to Jumpin Jack Flash at the beginning you can hear Elvis is Dead Coincidence :nervous:

hahah , I just did it for a goof and I guess cause I was looking for it and all there is something there that kinda sounds like axl is dead. hahahaha   :rofl:

*mods*

can I post a 7 second clip of the "backwards" part?!   ???

Here, here!    :hihi:

I don't know how you can make a final judgement yet. Since it is just a demo over the internet.

i don't see anyone making a final judgement here...

After listening both songs it?s quite clear that Buckethead is not playing on I.R.S , the amazing solo he played on the end of the old versi?n has been removed,the solo now sounds like Robin trying to emulate Bucket, anyway the song it?s superb , it?s a very different version from the  one  with poor sound that  surfaced  early on, so I like specially  the begining  with that  Blind Melon acoustic feeling , and the guitar driving end with Axl screaming his nuts.
The  clip of Better is to short to judge if Bucket?s parts  have been deleted, but we can?t find any of the freak effects that Buckethead used to add to the GNR songs , and the intro seemed a good place to add some of the funky vibe that he played so fine, but this song rocks so much , i can?t wait to hear the final version, because it finish right when starts what promised to be the best part of the song, and the best song   that any related GNR musician have recorded for the past 14 years.
Except for the drum machine, these songs must be  much more than demos , and the guitars and vocal tracks seem almost finished,  so they must be recorded or re-recorded after 2004 BH leaving.

Oh yeah, Brain is great! I love his job at Primus! I just don't know why a lot of fans don't like him!

Its a drum machine.  Bands don't use real drums until the final cuts b/c drums are the most expensive, tedious and time consuming part of recording...

hmmmm it sounded like Buckethead to me.

Thats Bucket doing the second solo on IRS.  : ok:

I also think it's BH!

No, Dizzy's playing that. Or maybe Axl. But definietely not BH.  :hihi:

if you play the last 20 seconds backwards you can hear "Axl's having fun with preety girls while davemanson posts shit"

 :hihi:

Yeah it sounds like Bucket to me.. First name I thought of when I heard the second solo near the end being shredded.

Yeah, that's Big B alright.

I think the main riff on Better is also Bucket.

Does Bucket wear the KFC bucket in the studio?

The funny thing is that this is the exact same fucking version of the song as was leaked before only "cleaner" .. god , I listened to each of them back to back a dozen times , the solo is EXACTLY the same.  ::)

It may seem like a non-issue now , but I'm sure when the album comes out , if they have erased his parts people will always comment "wonder what these solo's would sound like if buckets parts stayed?"

It's just the clear version of the Thrunk CD. So IT IS Buckethead on IRS.
However, nobody knows if he will be on the final studio album track.

That's not true at all...
If they could manage to record those 100 guitar tracks, I'm sure they could manage to record one drum track.

I don't think its a drum machine either... The beat changes throughout, and there are cymbals, and there are tom rolls during the heavy parts. Not something that could easily be programmed.

There ARE drum loops, but they're easily distinguishable from the real drums.

Better sounds like a song being played backwards.

This is true, but Bucket could have also re recorded his solo.

but not the final product when it comes to the drum part right?

it's bucket alright! cold cold bucket!

So they are asking us not to share now?  LOL. Ok, so what are they going to give us by not sharing?

btw, this effectively means no TWAT or complete Better. Someone will rat the kid out and management will intimidate him.

Stop posting requests for the songs.





/jarmo

But it's just a demo. Don't get worked up. In fact, it sounds very much like a demo; the mix isn't right and there is alot of ambient silence that has to be filled in and tightened.

When I listen to the Chorus of IRS It reminds me of that song.

yep, that was worth starting a new topic ;)

Trust me, my best friend's brother has been in a rock band for 7 years now and everytime I hear demo's I think they are real drums, but they aren't.  Yes, Axl could afford to do it probably but I'm not sure he would waste the money just for drums.

A drum machine has the ability to do anything a real kit could do, sometimes better, so believe me when I say its probably a drum track...

ahaha
i did listen to that song for a while lol
not bad not bad ;)

the video is very marilyn mansonite ... oh wait ?... it was done by the same director

 :hihi:

Beat me to it... This is his pointlees post 579 today

I always saw a close resemblence between Christina Aguilera and Cradle of Filth's music.

 ::)

*points finger*

hahahah you listen to xtina!!  :P

just kidding , that doesnt mean yer gay or anything .. not that theres anything wrong with that.  :rofl:

Ok, but then how can we hear 'em? Please post them on your site Jarmo!

I'd bang her.

 :rofl:  hilarious!!!!

try gnrmp3warehouse.com  :hihi:

hahaha

"please post them on your site jarmo" - quote of the YEAR thus far.  : ok:

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: i love this forum!!!

 :rofl: this is absolutely crazy I've never seen so many people on this board at the same time....141 guests and 80 registered? users, all that just for 1 and a half song? ;)....I bet Jarmo knew this was coming 'cause why else would he change servers :yes:

have they changed servers yet? I didnt think they did.  ???

No.....




/jarmo

so was a better version (full) actually leaked of I.R.S? or just that song called better?

Hey Jarm...I've got a bunker set up until the fallout is over....

We've got Beer, Corn Pops, a CD with all the Chinese Democracy stuff, and a blow up doll of Erin Everly....

Hop in..

Im pretty sure there is both real drums and a drum machine on IRS....

No.....




/jarmo

Really?, oh well my mistake :-\

This song is really really good...

Not dissing the band, but the intro is infact exactly the same as "summer of my love" by zeppelin.. I just played them back to back, no doubt a coincidence, pretty cool i think.

I don't think Zeppelin did a song called "summer of my love"  Which album is it on?

could be "sunshine of my love" ... i have it on a bootleg titled "summer.." dunno.. pretty cool.. it was only like 3 chords, but same timing and evrything.. not word wise or anything.

The song was called "RAIN SONG".................sigh

And yes it sounds similar

Haha, thank you, even with the sigh n all.. brain fart...  ???

What?  "IRS" intro sounds nothing like "The Rain Song" intro, unless you have a live version of the "The Rain Song" and they happened to play a different intro to it.

Check out the album version of it, and you'll see that there iare no similarities.  "IRS" has a mellow feel, but "The Rain Song" just completely takes you away. 

Don't talk like that about God!
I think that i can find lots of stuff like that , " oh this like Queen " " oh this is like DS " , each song can be compared with lots of others , but tihs is just mmmmhh bullshit  ;D

Hmm, nobody seems to be talking about this song much anymore.  Nobody like it anymore or is it considered an "old" song by most of you since we heart the first release back in April of last year?  I still dig it...rocking tune.

i love this song..... : ok:

I love this song too! I think it jams so hard.
I lot of people seem to consider it 'filler' or whatever the fuck else, but I think it absolutely fucking jams. Can't wait to hear it without a drum machine and in its final mix!  : ok:

Phew, glad I'm not the only one who thinks it kicks ass  : ok:

I agree, if this is on CD its going to be very diff then the demo we've heard and its going to have the attitude of a classic GNR song

this song has such an amazing groove.. i love it

i love this song

The song kicks ass.  Plain and simple.  It kicks ass.   :beer:

it blew me away the first time i heard it  8)  :-*

same here m8 :)

this song rocks and i'm sure the final mix will be even better. Do you guys think when CD comes out they'll do what alot of bands do, and put out a limited number of copies that come with a disc of bonus material? axl did say they were working on 32 songs, 26 of which were done at that time. He said 13 on the cd, so that leaves alot of leftovers. i'm thinking maybe the best buy's will have a bonus cd with it.

a great song.  i can't wait to hear the intro on the modified, final studio release.  it's going to be awesome.  :beer:

Yes, the song kicks ass. Love the guitars. And if you listen to it through headphones, theres some sort of loop going on in the background that sounds kinda like a sitar or something, very cool. And again, I love love love Finck's super-clean guitars. So slick...

unnnnnnnnnnnnreal, i'm glad i revived this thread....most of the posts I've read weren't too keen on this tune.  Glad to hear there are some people who know a kick ass track when they hear one  :beer:

I like the song a lot, but it's not my fav.

But my girlfriend loved and she's not a big fan of the band. : ok:

Before "Better", I consider IRS the best song from new GNr

the song itself is just about their worst, but the solo is the best..

 : ok: This song rocks

 Come on , the song will make top 10 best on the charts.

I love this song.  I can't wait till the finished version is released.  I also think it would make the popular charts, it's got a good rhythm to it.

I wake up hearing Better in my head though lol

 ;D

that's not to hard on the rock charts, should be done easily

I like this song a lot too!  We get an Axl screech, great guitar jams, axl screaming and singing with intensity...!  This song rocks pretty good for a demo.  Its different from the other leaks, more of a catchy little bit of a rocker.  I like all the songs so far, but catch myself listening to this more than the others!  Its easy and edgy, different from previous stuff as far as beat and stuff...

me too, this is the one I look forward to when it comes up on my ipod.  Better gets skipped a lot.

I really dig IRS but after hearing these other songs i come to realise how repetitive it is. Its still cool but a bit boring


 :peace:

Excellent point.  But for what it is, its awesome.  Def not the next WTTJ, but a good rocker nonetheless.  The other songs are just on a whole nother planet.  But, its just a demo...studio could blow us away!

i love this song! its great? :)? gnr is gonna take back the rock throne!

Well for what is is worth IRS is still at #49 for the 2nd straight week according to Radio and Records!
I still cant believe this is on the chart for a 2nd week. I love IRS but what I cant believe is that a leaked demo is charting.

Here's your link
http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/Charts/AR_Chart.asp

How many stations are still playing this?

(A) anyone else thinks that the guitar effects of "irs" on the left side sound terribly cheap and utterly contraproductive for the song; as if axl was afraid that it might sound too "normal", so he?s selecting effects by chance without getting the right feeling for what is needed... like "ah put that on that guitar, hey, this should run through some more effects... and hey, we could use a flanger on that guitar...! yeah i definitely think we need some keyboards and chemical brothers effects on silkworms, chris and dizzy, can you do that, just listen to a nin record or ask robin...you know make it sound more electronic and epic... just some more samples, ah try some of these..."

how likely is it, that this approach could ruin lot of other fine pieces of work on cd?  instead of giving the songs a traditional sound, it seems that axl is trying to attempt a cool-modern sound (which intention i appreciate) but fails, f.e. with irs, silkworms...
so the songs on cd could all sound a bit too "constructed", not as homogenic like nin for example, too overproduced like "oh my god". simply because axl is afraid to rick-rubin-like reduce things to its substance or core... (and i think that some of the new songs really have "substance")

(b) ok, now to the vocals on irs: the lines from "when you fist told me you were gone" til "seen it coming all along" just sound WRONG - meaning that rhytmically they don`t really go together with the guitar riff ... i mean it`s not out of time, but it`s not fitting too well with the rest of the band...

what do you say?

i dissagree and i think that the guitar works well in irs.  Axl knows what he is doing and isn't goign to release anything that he doesn't like or think will work.  he isn't going to release anysongs that the fans might not like now is he, unless this just backs up the argument for irs not actually being on CD

i made a mistake when i wrote that some vocals don`t really go together with the guitar riff ... i wrote "IT?S not out of time, but IT`s not fitting too well with the rest of the band"   "IT" does not relate to the the guitar riff but to the vocals - it should be the word "THEY" (instead of IT)...

sorry to confuse...

Sorry if this is an annoying post...but can anyone direct me to some lyrics for I.R.S. ?

I tried on google but they're clearly posted from some realy bad source and not either of the leaked versions or bootlegs i've heard...just seem really bizzare.....

I'm sure i read a thread with 2 or 3 peopld on this board nutting out the lyrics - but i cant seem to locate it now....so if anyone can hook me up i'll be very happy!!!

 :beer:

Try here:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/releases/chinese-democracy/irs.html

AWESOME!! Thanks man - i knew it was somewhere around!!!

I love this song...cant wait for studio!!

Some of these lyrics aren't correct. This is my interpretation of the lyrics

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LOVE
Is it true?[/b] It's true
What they say
Of you?

Gonna call the President
Gonna call a Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

There?s not anymore that I can do
All the reasons that you gave
I'll follow you
To when you plead the fifth, that?d be the end of time, its true <-- Not too sure whats there but it aint 'the fifth'.

Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last I should have known
Through all the rumors I can tell,
Some things didn't work so well

Well anyway, it feels the same

As when you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck getting outta the debt
That's the truth and here's the worst yet
Wouldn't even matter the things I say
You made your mind up ad hoc anyway
There's no use now in not getting on
Could've seen it coming all along

Well it?s true...ooh...I had
My doubts[/b] with you <--- Sounds like a chicken so I think its "begun" or something that sounds like that.

Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna wave it right down in your face
Read it daily with your morning news
With a cheap hangover, and the headlines true now

[Finck Solo]

I been thinking you're too bad for my health,
I should've looked again then at somebody else
Feelin like I done way more than wrong
Feelin like I never gonna get ya outta this song
Feelin like I'm just too tired to care
Feelin like I done more than my share
Could it be the weight[/b] that I've carried on <--- That doesn't actually make sense, I'm pretty sure its "Way"
Like a broken record for so long

And I do
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private eye
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna need myself the FBI.

Ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you know it?s true

[Bucket solo]

Gonna call the president
Gonna need myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it right down in your face,
Read it daily with your morning news
With a cheap hangover, and the headlines true

There's not anymore that I can do
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I know I'm probably wrong with most of these but this is how I see the lyrics. Feel free to make any corrections or ask any questions

I was actually toying with the notion that it could be way instead of weight also.  Nevertheless, I think weight works with the song too because it can signify a burden, i.e. a burden weighing you down.  Way that and weight that would be (and are) hard to distinguish from each other, so either could be right. :)

From the sound of it, it seems to be a song about something like writer's block.
I know Axl is reported to have said it was about tax. ::)

Assuming it was proceeded along the lines of the demo leaked earlier (in march?)
I think this song will make a "stairway to heaven" of the 21st century.

Christ, I hope that you really dont mean that.

Me too.

Aaahh there is a normal person on here. Nice to meet you BLS!

Stairway to heaven for the 21st Century.... priceless.

IRS

Oh, oh ( I used to think its love but after hearing the 99 demo and the live versions its not)
Is it true?
What they say of you

Gonna call the President
Gonna call up the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

There?s not anymore that I can do
All the reasons that you gave
I'd follow you
To when you need and if that?d be the end of time it?s true

Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last I should have known
All the rumors I can tell
Some things didn't work so well

Well anyway, it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the motions (not sure about this part)
That's the truth and here's the worst yet
Wouldn't even matter the things I say
You made your mind up and gone anyway
There's no use now in dragging it on
Could've seen it coming all along

Well it?s true...ooh...I had
My doubts with you

Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna wave it right down in your face (??)
Read a minute with your morning news
With a cheap hangover, and the headlines true now

[Finck Solo]

I feel your doing this all for my health
I should've looked again then at somebody else
Feel like I done way more than wrong
Feelin like I?m livin inside of this song
Feelin like I'm just too tired to care
Feelin like I done more than my share
Could it be the way that I've carried on (yeah that does make more senes but weight did too)
Like a broken record for so long

And I do
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private eye
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna need myself the FBI

Ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you know it?s true

[Bucket solo]

Gonna call the president
Gonna get myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it right down in your face(??)
Read a minute with your morning news
With a cheap hangover, and the headlines true

There's not anymore that I can do

***** I've always thought it was something like this:

"With all of the bullshit I've had to take, I'll tell you it's the worst yet" or something like that. Just my input though.....

Its def not that esp if you listen to the live versions. We shoudl have someone email merk for the lyrics lol

Ooops I should have known that not everyone apperciates "stairway to heaven".  :P
True the zep sound is pretty dated but it's a monumental piece in Rock.
With all antiquated factors in it, the music is still beautiful, IMO.

Stairway to Heaven is fantastic, a true classic. I thought you were saying that IRS had the potential to be the same.

Thats why i thought you were mad mate. It couldnt even come remotely close to Zep even at their worst.

At their worst? Do you know what their worst is? ::)

I say it again.
Providing it has been proceeded along the lines of the demo leaked in march,
IRS will be a modern day "stairway".  The song will represent the pinnacle of hard rock.
I don't know how my posts can be taken otherwise.

I thought you meant stairway was not that good, which would be understandable as the song sounds pass?, sometimes too gaudy and too self intoxicated unlike IRS. None of zep member names it as their best work. Still it's a beautiful piece none the less. A monument of hard rock in the last century.

I'd say someone who HOPES this song won't be huge still calling themselves a GNR fan is very very mad.

Great job man!? There must still be some errors but these lyrics are getting close.

For what it is worth (the not sure part), this is the way I have heard it since the first few times I tried figuring out the lyrics.? "Through all the emotions and love that it takes"

BTW, does anyone know if Axl has been singing the end "There's not anymore that I can do" in that different key like RIR at all the concerts?? I'm starting to like the way he ends the song in that key better than the demos.

you have fairly high hopes for this song there  :hihi:

although I find Stairway a little lame these days, youre right in that it is an almost unparalled rock classic that perhaps only Bohemiam Rhapsody and SCOM can rival.

IRS in that league? mmm... sorry, I dont rate it quite that highly up the totem pole. We shall see how the public receive it if its released as a single I guess. To truly gauge its impact though, we would need to have this discussion 15 -20 yrs after its release

After sifting through all these various demo versions, live versions, hearing it live myself, etc., I've come up with this very, very loose interpretation. A lot of what I hear doesn't really make a ton of sense, oh well:

'Love, oh oh,
is it true?
What they say of you?

Gonna call the President,
gonna call with the private eye,
gonna get the IRS,
gonna need the FBI,
there's not anymore that I can do,

all the reasons that you gave,
I'd follow you,
to when you plead and if that'd be the end of time it's true,
wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong,
wouldn't be the last I'm sure I've gone
through all the rumors I can tell,
some things didn't work so well,

well anyway it feels the same,
as when you first told me you were gone,
so long ago but I still held on,
through all the motions and I'm in this debt,
and that's the truth now here's the worse yet,
wouldn't even matter, the things that I say,
you bend your mind I'll be gone anyway,
and there's no use knowing that you're done off,
you'd have seen if comin' all along.

well it's true, oh.
I had, but that was you, oh oh.

gonna call the President,
gonna call myself a private eye,
gonn need the IRS,
gonna get the FBI.

Gonna make this a federal case,
gonna wave it right back out in your face,
read about it with your morning news
with a sweet hangover and the headlines, too now.

I see you think I'm doin' this all for my health,
I should've looked again then at somebody else,
feelin' like I've done way more than wrong,
feelin' like I'm living inside of this song,
feelin' like I'm just too tired to care,
feelin' like I've done more than my share,
could it be the way that I've carried on,
like a broke record for so long?
Am I doomed?

Gonna call the President,
gonna call a private eye,
gonna get the IRS,
gonna need myself the FBI.

Oh, what shall I do?
If I gave my heart freely,
it's like a crime you know it's true!

Gonna call the President,
gonna get myself a private eye,
ooh gonna need the IRS,
gonna get the IRS.

Gonna make it a federal case,
gonna wave it right back out in your face,
re-invent it with your morning news with
a sweet hangover and your headlines, too
It's not anymore that I can do...'

ITs when you need and if that  be

its also read a minute with your morning news

I agree its sweet hang over

Okay, so I never liked IRS... it was my least favorite of all the new songs (yes, even OMG and Silkworms!)...
But then I finally got around to downloading an mp3 of IRS from the Rock in Rio Lisbon Portugal show, and my opinion has changed dramatically.  If you haven't listened to it yet, I highly recommend that you find it.  First of all, Axl's vocals are really low in the mix, but that's good, because you can really hear the instruments.  Tommy's bass is easy to pick out for a change, which is great.  One of the keyboard players is really loud in the mix.  I think its Chris, and what he is playing reminds me of Rammstein, its more of a keyboard effect that really has a dark emotional undercurrent.  There is a really nice acoustic guitar about halfway through, and then during the last few choruses, the keyboard and rhythm guitar are playing the same notes and it sounds very sinister and creepy.  The music really matches the mood of the song... this guy is teetering on the edge of sanity really.  He's beyond sad, and into revenge territory maybe.  The music really impressed me and brought a whole new appreciation to the song.  I really, REALLY hope the band continues to push the song in a darker direction musically for the album. 

This makes the most sense to me:

There?s not anymore that I can do
All the reasons that you gave
I'd follow you
To where you lead and if that?d be the end of time it?s true

So... yeah.  He'd follow the person even if he is led to the end of time. : ok:

Someone help me I can't get IRS out of my head....its like i think of it day and night....its the passion in the way its sung (not that the band aint cool too) - but the delivery of those vocals is killer....god help me I need a studio of this so bad....its just got that raw axl thing....man i have it bad for this song, and to think a while back i'd never heard it!!!

Am i the only one with the IRS feaver?

its weird cos at first i thought i liked the otehr leaks more and that IRS was a little repititious....but then i started listening to the words and the way its sung and now i have to hear it many times each day....

I'm off to call the doctor...

Call the president instead.  :hihi:

are you feelining like you're living inside of this song, monkeychow?
listening to better might help. : ok:


Yeah cos by that time anyone will have known the impact/greatness of this song  like they do now with Stairway  based on popular appreciation.

That's why I'm predicting NOW. :D

Really like this one although I preferred Better.  That song is still playing in my head.

If you slow the song down 25 % you can make out most of the lyrics, by doing that this is what i got.

IRS

Oh, oh
Is it true?
What they say of you

Gonna call the President
Gonna call up the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

There?s not anymore that I can do
All the reasons that you gave
I'd follow you
To when you plead and if that?d be the end of time it?s true

Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last should have known
All the rumors I can tell
Some things didn't work so well

Well anyway, it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the emotions and love that it takes(?)
That's the truth and here's the worst yet
Wouldn't even matter the things I say
You made your mind up and gone anyway
There's no use now in dragging it on
Could've seen it coming all along

Well it?s true...ooh...I had
My doubts with you

Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna wave it right down in your face
Read a minute with your morning news
With a sweet hangover, and the headlines true now

[Finck Solo]

I feel your doing this all for my health
I should've looked again then at somebody else
Feel like I done way more than wrong
Feelin like I?m livin inside of this song
Feelin like I'm just too tired to care
Feelin like I done more than my share
Could it be the weight that I've carried on
Like a broken record for so long

And I do
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private eye
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna need myself the FBI

Ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you know it?s true

[Bucket solo]

Gonna call the president
Gonna get myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it right down in your face
Read a minute with your morning news
With a sweet hangover, and the headlines true

There's not anymore that I can do

Dave,

it sounds like "So long ago, but I still held on" and not "So long ago, but I've been here long"

Dave, how do you slow songs down?

is it a program you use or something?

send me a PM or somehting bro! thanks

I always thought so too.  It sounds like "So long ago, but I've still held on, through all the bullshit that I've had to take"

I used audacity

That sounds pretty close , yeah it is Ive still held on, as for the other part, i have no clue, that could be right

I used audacity

thanks! downloading it now

Ok based on that amazing point youve made, why not pick ANY song out there at the moment and say that in 20 years time  it may just have the impact of Stairway to Heaven.

Good luck with your clairvoyance Nostradamus.

This is great for listening to the lyrics:

http://www.thenewguns.com/IRS-livenovarock.mp3

From thenewguns.com

How can I download this. I love IRS since I heard it live at donnington and I love to be able to put this version on my ipod

Right click and choose "save as".

It's an awesome version indeed. Axl's voice sounds killer.

I gotta admit when I first heard IRS, it didn't jump out at me.  But after listening to it several times it's a hell of a tune.  I think it should be the first official single :smoking:

I knew that ;)

 Thank you

Ok how is this


IRS

Oh, oh
Is it true?
What they say of you

Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

There?s not anymore that I can do
All the reasons that you gave
I'd follow you
To when you need and if that?d be the end of time it?s true

Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last should have known
All the rumors I can tell
Some things didn't work so well

Well anyway, it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've still held on
To all the bullshit I?ve had to take (?)
That's the truth and here's the worst yet
Wouldn't even matter the things I say
You made your mind up and gone anyway
There's no use now in dragging it on
Should?ve seen it coming all along

Well it?s true...ooh...I had
My doubts with you

Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna wave it right down in your face
Read a minute with your morning news
With a sweet hangover, and the headlines true now

[Finck Solo]

I feel your doing this all for my health
I should've looked again then at somebody else
Feel like I done way more than wrong
Feelin like I?m livin inside of this song
Feelin like I'm just too tired to care
Feelin like I done more than my share
Could it be the way that I've carried on
Like a broken record for so long

And I do
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private eye
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna need myself the FBI

Ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you know it?s true

[Bucket solo]

Gonna call the president
Gonna get myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it right down in your face
Read a minute with your morning news
With a sweet hangover, and the headlines true

There's not anymore that I can do

that one line is still wrong
i cant make it out

Because to say that this one out of the million songs that will have been released in 20 yrs time without even having a proper listen, may not have the impact of Stairway to Heaven would be far toughier.  :hihi:

Good luck to you too. You don't have to be an alchemist to tell gold is gold. Just see the glitter. :smoking:

I agree with Shotgunblues1978. ?Thanks to everyone for deciphering most of this. ?The song keeps getting better. ?Does everyone still remember trying to figure out the lyrics to the Bloody Roses version? ?The terrible sound quality made it sound like an echo from hell! ?(a beautifully tempting sound from hell! ?: ok:)

Um, I hear "through all the emotions that I've ever faced"

Think that's right.

or

To all the emotions and my mistakes (?)

I definately hear emotions...I'm pretty sure about the faced part.

Still, at this point I'm just willing to wait for the lyrics booklet to finally put an end to all this.  : ok:

did this thing get leaked? I can't read 23 pages, sorry. 

Wow. Just...wow. Where have you been the last 6 months?

I agree its the 2nd part I cant make out

I can't believe we're still arguing about these lyrics!


I have been certain that it was "emotions" for a very long time. The rest is definitely harder to decipher. Earlier I had "To all the emotions that I've had to take" but "and love that it takes" may be right. And perhaps the line starts with through? "Through all the emotions and love that it takes"


I will still argue strongly that this is "You made your mind up ad hoc anyway". I haven't seen anything else that fits better.


That damn word is hard to make out, it sounds like 'sweet' but that just doesn't fit the line. I'm still going with "cheap" until Uncle Axl clears this up.


Someone in the lyrics thread came up with "I bet you think I'm doing this all for my health" and I am 99% convinced this is correct. I can hear him say it.


"There's no use now in not gettin' on". This is what I hear in both the studio and live version.

Yeah I hear "betcha think" as well. He says it fast and, to me, its clear as day.

It's "Through all the motions, love has stayed". It makes sense in the context of the song, when you consider that the next line is... "And that's the truth, and here's the worst yet."

..."You made your mind up, and your heart anyway".

Yeah, that's the best interpretation I've heard.

That would be me. :) Well, it might've been someone else too, but I definitely posted that somewhere...

Yup.

SG

My buddy..."Is this new"....I love it!"...."It  soundsl like the old stuff".....from a non fan.

It was I.R.S.

Wow.

fuckin great : ok: play it for your other friends too

The Ram Am Ring version is earth-shattering (especially the end). Pure adrenaline. 8)
One of the best Rock song I have ever heard.

Listening to this song with a good pair of headphones is just killer. This tune is just unreal, and in my opinion tops the bands new material.

It is really arty, the structure, the time signature, the vocal delivery, it just screams something modern and new.

I can't praise this song enough, even if it is one of those songs that it takes awhile to "get". I get it like nobodys business.

IRS is a great song, and I am highly anticipating hearing a finished version of the song. I am so glad they play it on tour.

well that is all.

I love the song.

I love this thread! :beer:

Anyone else with a random thought?

There is a search button at the top of the forum.

I think we need a workshop to teach some users how to use it.

IRS is a very nice song from what we've heard on the leak, but the IRS version performed at Rock Am Ring is KILLER; OUTSTANDING. Bumblefoot REALLY does his job.

Axl's voice at the end of the track (IRS-RAR) sounds like regan/satan in ''The Exorcist'', that voice reminds me of his voice in Rock In Rio II. Killer, the best track of that DVD.

yes dude, IRS is an Incredible Song, even when it is the weakest leaked track of the four.

Yes, IRS is an Incredibly Rockin' Song... ?But then, so are most GNR songs. ? :hihi:

Lyrically I find it a bit weak in that it's kind of silly to consider calling the IRS or the FBI (like they'll do anything for you if you do ::)), but the guitar during the verses puts me in mind of Tony Iommi/(old) Black Sabbath, and I just love that! ? :love:

I adore the live version, but the demo is really flat - Hopefully the final product resembles what they've been playing on the tour (and it's likely that it will).

whatever man.  There has been so many negative vibes on this site recently, and when a fan expresses his enjoyment for a tune there has to be some jerk off with something to say.

Agreed. :hihi:

I.R.S the demos are a work in progress.
I.R.S live is kick ass.

It is an amazing song, and has great potential to be a radio hit.

I think it's ok but prefer TWAT/Better. Music's pretty good but personally I find the lyrics stupid.

Itunes.... play count.... 156.... ?:drool:

Absolutely - Especially with the headphones, the guitars shine bright

Song kicks ass - Period

The recent soundboard  recordings really put  this song  in perspective. It  is so heavy, so great. The rhthym  guitar reminds me of My Michelle. I too love this song, and hope to hear  it live if  fuckin GNR would come to my town!!

my least favorite of the leaks/demos

I agree with the thread starter. IRS fucking owns.

I guess this couldn't have gone in the "IRS Discussion" thread...  :-X

Great song. And a great place to discuss it.

Hahahaha.

Read the forum rules and get back to me.

The Inland invasion sound board version is the best Ive heard this song aside from actually being at the Joint in Sept. Vocally he does a great job, pulls off every line like it was the studio and even digs down to get that gutteral, primal sound out of his throte on the line "gonna wave it right down in your face" which is just awsome.  This is my favorite new Guns song. :yes: :peace:

great song great lyrics...great solos...awesome song

Mine also.

The lyrics are not great. You're crazy man. :o

i agree

unlike the other leaks, the lyrics in IRS dont seem to have the same power and sence of meaning

i do think that the guitar sound of the demo is shitty and the song has no dynamic; but the live version (e.g. rock am ring) is alright... but i also prefer chinese democracy and better (from the "rockers")...

The only thing that's cheesy is the actual hook ("Gonna get the IRS..." etc.). The lyrics for the rest of the song are pretty impressive.

Through all the motions: the love and the sex
That's the truth, here's the worst yet
Wouldn't be the amount of the things that I say
You made your mind up and gone on your way

I like that bit.

I always thought it was.

Through all the motions a lover can make
That's the truth, and here's what we'll say
Woudn't even matter to me anyway
You've made your mind up and gone anyway

 ;D

I agree, those parts are pretty ok, but the chorus is horrible, and it gets repeated over and over again. Lord, give me strength.

Another thing, that guitar you hear in the left speaker at the beginning of the song fucking rocks. Some spaced shit going on there. I only hear it with headphones though.

The lyrics are pretty poor, but its a pretty good song. I wish they would put a proper bad-ass effect on the guitars to make it sound even more hard-metal.

"What shall I do, if I, gave my heart to you"

What relevance does that have to the IRS exactly?

I was never sure exactly what he was saying, but after comparing the monitor mix and Rock am Ring and Inland Invasion certain parts become very clear. (Especially Download Festival.) It's definitely what I posted, I'm almost positive. If I'm wrong I shall slap myself raw on the face.  :-\

And yeah, the guitar in the beginning is awesome. I love the Led Zeppelin vibe there - it's like Led Zep with a modern twist. The crunchy guitar riffs are cool too. It needs work, though, because the demo sounds a bit flat at times - the live version is much better.

It's not actually about the IRS. It's about breaking up. (Another love song.) That's why I think the main chorus is so stupid. It's basically a guy expressing his insecurities - he's going to get the FBI and private eye to follow her around and try to validate his suspicions. It would be cool if he left out the IRS, because that would mean he's mad at her for buying too much and not writing off her taxes properly?  ???

contra:
the problem with irs is that the song is way too repetitive, as some of you have metioned... especially because the song is pretty long as well and the hookline seems to get on ones nerves pretty soon (does it?).
pro:
what i think is cool about the live versions is that the poor guitar effects (from the demo) are gone and a funky wah-wah phrase has been added; all in all it sounds more organic now and has more of a dynamic character (just listen to the vocals at rock am ring); especially the guitar parts during the verses are pretty powerfull; i like that a lot; the new finck solo is also a huge plus;

conclusio:
irs is ok, but doesn't seem t o be a big gun (hopefully); nevertheless - with a cool production - it but may fit in perfectly in the "flow" of the chinese democracy album.

Im really starting to like this song now that I've heard it live...I always thaught it was one of the weaker new songs but man its really starting to grow on me....These are some of the best lyrics Axl has sang lately:

As when you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I still held on
To all the luck getting outta the debt
That's the truth and here's the worst yet
Wouldn't even matter the things that I say
You made your mind up ad hoc anyway
There's no use now in not dragging it on
Should've seen it coming all along


I love the part in bold when he sings it...Awsome tune

When I first heard I.R.S I only thought it was a decent track, nothing special. But since then it has only grown and grown and grown. Now it is sailing up to be one of my favorite tracks. Definitely a big gun.

My god, Chinese Democracy is going to be out of this world :drool: Even Appetite does not rest easy at this point. I think Axl may succeed in is goal. Who would have thought, eh?

^^I totally agree with you. IRS is a fantastic song, and it really comes through live. The Rock Am Ring version is so powerful.  :drool:

the hookline doesn`t get on my nerves--> no contra---> AWESOME song!!

i was at rock am ring and i was blown away. IRS and madagascar were the best songs of the entire festival : ok:

My favorite songs so far ;D

I can't believe they didn't show Out Ta Get Me and Madagascar from Rock Am Ring. I'd kill to see those songs.  :drool:

Well anyway, it feels the same...

 as when you first told me you were gone.
It was so long ago but I still held on
to all the emotions, love and mistakes
 - that's the truth, and here's the worst yet:
It wouldn't even matter the things that I'd say
you made your mind up an' been gone anyway.
And there's no use now in dragging it on,
I should've seen it coming all along.
FBI:? Watches you.
IRS:? Knows where your money came from... it audits you, makes an inventory.
Private-Eye:? Again, watches you.
Federal case...etc.

I mean, it's a spurned lover or friend, trying to expose injustice and wrong doing that he knows is under the surface.? ? If you've been to a concert, the chorus probably isn't repetitive.? He sings his butt off and it's amazing.

PS:  I don't know how Dave made anything out of the original IRS leak in 2004.   : ok:

You forgot one...

President: Does Nothing  :rofl:

I was more commenting on "IRS", some above posters seemed to have no idea what they do.

Does anyone else get the feeling that this will be the most "Metal" GNR album?  I hear the guitar/bass work on IRS, especially at the 3:15 mark, and in other songs, and it has a very metal feel to it (and, by metal, I DON'T mean bluesy, aggressive hard rock, that is often confused with metal).  I'm not arguing the whole album's metal...but some of the leaks have that feel.  IRS, Chinese Democracy, parts of Better.  Just a thought. 

like Axl said in .. Hmm some years ago.. it will be a melting pot. Im sure there will be alot of Metal type of songs.. The song mentioned by Bach was almost Doom Metal, so why not! I think the middle part of Better sounds metal too.. And Oh My God is pretty metal

it was a pain in the ass ill tell you that much lol

Indeed!  Thanks for making a stand that aggressive hard rock / bluesy hard rock isn't metal, btw =).

I do hear that "metalness" in IRS, and Chinese Democracy.  A lot to do with the rythm section.  Kind of menacing.  Especially the doom metal comment... seems that between that and The Blues, this will be a diverse sounding record.  (Maybe!).  I know IRS is a pretty diverse song... depending on what the final version is.

just goes to show that Axl can do it all :yes:

ohhhahahahhhahaahhh CHINESE DEMOCRACY  :drool:

listening to the leak for the first time in i don't know how long, fuck it's great, the studio version is gonna be so kick ass, i hope franks on the drums in the studio :headbanger:

IRS is an incredible live song

The thing I really like about IRS is that it has this subtle complexity to it, where it sounds simple but if you listen really closely, there's a bunch of different layers.  I think the polished final cut is going to kick some serious ass.  I also like that they've added the Robin solo from the 1999 demo back into the song.  The solos are all cool, they all compliment each other, with Robin's heavier solo, then the soft solo, then the shred solo at the end.  Also Axl's vocal melodies are awesome.  Overall it's just a really well written song, and it ages well

It relates to the "gonna make it a federal case" part.  "Make it a federal case" is a saying, not literal, meaning making a huge fucking deal over something.  The chorus is not about the IRS or FBI, it's an exagerration about how he can't trust this broad so he's going to go to excessive lengths to expose her as a fraud.  Hence, getting the IRS and FBI to investigate her

I love how they're playing IRS live with the additional solo by Robin. There was a great version of IRS up on youtube from The Gibson Amphitheater but it looks like it's been removed. Anyway, I hope it sounds like how GnR is playing it now on the album. Of all the new songs GnR has played I would say that IRS sounds the best live.

A little help, please:  what's a broad? ???

a woman.

the song is kinda two- faced... studio/live intro imo is horrible...live version has alot of dynamics which the song needs and makes the song real good. studio version is blah... and doesn't really do anything for me

Which version are you talking about? The really shitty spliced one, or the slower one from '99?

I kind of hope that the final studio version sounds similar to the 99' demo we have.

Very funky laid back kind of groove. I prefer this to the newer live versions.

Maybe the studio cut will be suprisingly different than both.

I like the funky guitar riff during the chorus' in the '99 version.  That should def. be on the album version