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Title: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: JDA on October 26, 2006, 10:39:02 PM
Rose and his new lineup -- guitarists Robin Finck, Richard Fortus and Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, familiar keyboard players Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman, bassist Tommy Stinson and drummer Frank Ferrer ?- tore through a more-than-two-hour set that included most of GN'R's classics plus a handful of eagerly anticipated new classics.

Source: gunsnroses.com


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Duffio on October 26, 2006, 10:44:27 PM
it says that for that show.... although on the"GnR Reloaded " it  says something like : Frontman Axl Rose will be joined by rock 'n' roll all-stars including former Nine Inch Nails guitarist Robin Finck and former Primus drummer Brian Mantia for the U.S. tour. 

Source : gunsnroses.com as well.. so with that said, why DO YOU ALL READ SO GODDAMN MUCH INTO A SIMPLE STATEMENT??? I'M SURE by now they would have announced brain out of the band... ....sorry but come on now..

 


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: JDA on October 26, 2006, 10:46:56 PM
That's the most recent article from the official website.  That's why I "read that much into it".


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: DunkinDave on October 26, 2006, 10:47:02 PM
Source : gunsnroses.com as well.. so with that said, why DO YOU ALL READ SO GODDAMN MUCH INTO A SIMPLE STATEMENT??? I'M SURE by now they would have announced brain out of the band... ....sorry but come on now..

If the band issued a press release, the mainstream media would either go "who the fuck is that?" or ignore it.

So no, they wouldn't issue a release if one of the newer members came or went.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: GeraldFord on October 26, 2006, 10:47:47 PM
Where does it say Frank is the drummer? It says

"Guns N' Roses kicked off their North American tour Tuesday night in Florida, playing for more than two hours to an ecstatic crowd of more than 10,000. GN'R delivered a sizzling set list of classics and choice songs from the upcoming album, Chinese Democracy. The tour continues Friday in Estero, Fla. before hitting San Juan, Puerto Rico on Sunday and Jacksonville on Halloween.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Duffio on October 26, 2006, 10:51:13 PM
for all you lazy internet web surfers... take the time to read everything on a site... instead of what all the "what??"s or the "where's?"  ......*sigH*   http://web.gunsnroses.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061025&content_id=a1&vkey=news&fext=.jsp    the 3rd paragraph down it says : Rose and his new lineup -- guitarists Robin Finck, Richard Fortus and Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, familiar keyboard players Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman, bassist Tommy Stinson and drummer Frank Ferrer ?- tore through a more-than-two-hour set that included most of GN'R's classics plus a handful of eagerly anticipated new classics.

  sheesh


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: DunkinDave on October 26, 2006, 10:53:06 PM
for all you lazy internet web surfers... take the time to read everything on a site... instead of what all the "what??"s or the "where's?"? ......*sigH*?

Don't call us lazy when the original poster didn't have the courtesy to include the link in his post.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on October 26, 2006, 10:53:52 PM
If Brains out, I wish theyd just say it... I had a bad feeling about him ever since buckethead left... I like him and all, but his 'this would be no fun w/o bucket' comment was always unsetteling....


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: DunkinDave on October 26, 2006, 10:56:20 PM
If Brains out, I wish theyd just say it... I had a bad feeling about him ever since buckethead left... I like him and all, but his 'this would be no fun w/o bucket' comment was always unsetteling....

And if he wasn't leaving, he wouldn't have had an understudy learning all his parts for 6 months.

Seeing that the album's finished, he chose family over the band. Perfectly understandable.

I hope audio surfaces from last night's (10/24) show so that we can confirm that Axl introduced Frank as a new member.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Duffio on October 26, 2006, 10:56:57 PM
for all you lazy internet web surfers... take the time to read everything on a site... instead of what all the "what??"s or the "where's?"? ......*sigH*?

Don't call us lazy when the original poster didn't have the courtesy to include the link in his post.
? ?

he gave you the source..  if you have a source wtf is the need for the link??? god this should be locked. everyone turns on everyone cuz they're frustrated about what goes on in the Gn'R world... ?GnR is cool and everything but damn, it runs a lot of people's lives on here...


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: DunkinDave on October 26, 2006, 10:58:08 PM
for all you lazy internet web surfers... take the time to read everything on a site... instead of what all the "what??"s or the "where's?"? ......*sigH*?

Don't call us lazy when the original poster didn't have the courtesy to include the link in his post.
? ?

he gave you the source..? if you have a source wtf is the need for the link???

I don't like looking for needles in haystacks.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: grog mug on October 26, 2006, 10:58:35 PM
Yeah, the whole understudy thing had me worried. ?I liked the 02' lineup look/lineup the best, but I like this one just as well. ?Just hope this band actually sticks together and makes more albums.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: GNRBABY on October 26, 2006, 11:01:29 PM
Sorry I'm late, but I was there and Frank WAS the drummer. I noticed right away as I was close, but also that it wasn't Brain's Drum Kit. It wasn't the red and yellow kit, but Frank's kit, a more simple jazz-type drum kit. Really, it's closer to the kit Steven used, as Brain's is more like Matt's drum kit.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Duffio on October 26, 2006, 11:03:01 PM
for all you lazy internet web surfers... take the time to read everything on a site... instead of what all the "what??"s or the "where's?"? ......*sigH*?

Don't call us lazy when the original poster didn't have the courtesy to include the link in his post.
? ?

he gave you the source..? if you have a source wtf is the need for the link???

I don't like looking for needles in haystacks.

wow.. you don't like looking for needles in haystacks.. LAZY... anyway, he even cited it as the LATEST PRESS RELEASE..... how is that a needle in a haystack?? come on now, use your brain, don't show us your complete stupidity, let us think you're half intelligent when you post here, now i know everyone in the world isn't an einstein, but don't act like you're handicapped...


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: DunkinDave on October 26, 2006, 11:04:15 PM
for all you lazy internet web surfers... take the time to read everything on a site... instead of what all the "what??"s or the "where's?"? ......*sigH*?

Don't call us lazy when the original poster didn't have the courtesy to include the link in his post.
? ?

he gave you the source..? if you have a source wtf is the need for the link???

I don't like looking for needles in haystacks.

wow.. you don't like looking for needles in haystacks.. LAZY... anyway, he even cited it as the LATEST PRESS RELEASE..... how is that a needle in a haystack?? come on now, use your brain, don't show us your complete stupidity, let us think you're half intelligent when you post here, now i know everyone in the world isn't an einstein, but don't act like you're handicapped...

At least I'm capable of posting a link.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Duffio on October 26, 2006, 11:06:30 PM
Then bitch to the originator of the thread who wasn't... and if you're so capable at that, you might be more capable of searching a simple site... with 4 links... and posting each of them, and asking which one it is..  :rofl:    now quit adding posts to your 1,100+  post count.. make your posts count.. make them worth something instead of arguing with someone over how your low i.q. still serves you good.    : ok:


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Danny on October 26, 2006, 11:06:53 PM
I really hesitate to say this, but I could see this as an excuse for no CD this year.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Duffio on October 26, 2006, 11:08:15 PM
according to more than 1 source, all the drum tracks to CD were done a long long long time ago...


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: DunkinDave on October 26, 2006, 11:09:06 PM
Then bitch to the originator of the thread who wasn't... and if you're so capable at that, you might be more capable of searching a simple site... with 4 links... and posting each of them, and asking which one it is..? :rofl:? ? now quit adding posts to your 1,100+? post count.. make your posts count.. make them worth something instead of arguing with someone over how your low i.q. still serves you good.? ? : ok:

Duffio is being a faggot.

Source: The Internet


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Danny on October 26, 2006, 11:09:10 PM
I didn't say it would be a good excuse.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Duffio on October 26, 2006, 11:10:47 PM
Then bitch to the originator of the thread who wasn't... and if you're so capable at that, you might be more capable of searching a simple site... with 4 links... and posting each of them, and asking which one it is..? :rofl:? ? now quit adding posts to your 1,100+? post count.. make your posts count.. make them worth something instead of arguing with someone over how your low i.q. still serves you good.? ? : ok:

Duffio is being a faggot.

Source: The Internet

awww you didn't give a link...   i would hate to look for a needle in a haystack...


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Bono on October 26, 2006, 11:11:36 PM
Source : gunsnroses.com as well.. so with that said, why DO YOU ALL READ SO GODDAMN MUCH INTO A SIMPLE STATEMENT??? I'M SURE by now they would have announced brain out of the band... ....sorry but come on now..

If the band issued a press release, the mainstream media would either go "who the fuck is that?" or ignore it.

So no, they wouldn't issue a release if one of the newer members came or went.

Sadly it's because nobody cares who's in the band anymore. the casual fan who knows, ?knows it's not Slash and co. so they don't care who it is as long as it sounds good and Axl sings. I think that sucks that people don't care who's in the band. I think it's sad that in Calgary the show is being promoted as "Guns N' Roses with Axl Rose" It makes it sound like a ?joke. Like it's not Guns N' roses but hey Axl's there. That crap needs to stop if they want to be taken seriously. Still no Bios of the band members on gunsnroses.com. It's unreal. Why not? And as for anyoen being SUTE they woudl;'ve announced Brain out of the abdniif it were true well that's really getting ahead of ourselves. Would the band announce anything at this point? ?Do we really think that if Ron left(he won't) the abnd woudl rush out and make a statement? No way. Like Dunkin Dave said most poeple whould go "who the fuck is that" and the ones who do know would be pissed at yet again at the never ending revolving door of musicians.

On a side note just so we're clear Ron really fits the band in my opinion(much more so than buckethead) and I was only using him as an example.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: DunkinDave on October 26, 2006, 11:13:33 PM
Then bitch to the originator of the thread who wasn't... and if you're so capable at that, you might be more capable of searching a simple site... with 4 links... and posting each of them, and asking which one it is..? :rofl:? ? now quit adding posts to your 1,100+? post count.. make your posts count.. make them worth something instead of arguing with someone over how your low i.q. still serves you good.? ? : ok:

Duffio is being a faggot.

Source: The Internet

awww you didn't give a link...? ?i would hate to look for a needle in a haystack...

My bad.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=232;sa=showPosts


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Naupis on October 26, 2006, 11:16:14 PM
You would think that Guns N' Roses fans would be the last group of people to even care about any sort of line-up change, given that we have had like 15 or more different people be a full time member at some point or another.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Duffio on October 26, 2006, 11:16:34 PM
...yet like with everything else...

life goes on...

 :peace:


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Bono on October 26, 2006, 11:20:16 PM
You would think that Guns N' Roses fans would be the last group of people to even care about any sort of line-up change, given that we have had like 15 or more different people be a full time member at some point or another.

Maybe it should be that way by now :rofl: I think there are alot of us though who look at that as further proof that this is only an Axl project with hired Guns who basically have no input. I'd like to think it's a real band and I'd like for the band to have a constant lineup.  I don't see Axl Rose in the same vein as say a Robert Smith. Hmmm maybe I should now that everyone else is gone but in my mind Guns N' Roses is a band whether it's the new band or the original band, it's a band and the less interchanging of members the more cohesive they'll obviously be.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Naupis on October 26, 2006, 11:28:23 PM
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Maybe it should be that way by now  I think there are alot of us though who look at that as further proof that this is only an Axl project with hired Guns who basically have no input. I'd like to think it's a real band and I'd like for the band to have a constant lineup.  I don't see Axl Rose in the same vein as say a Robert Smith. Hmmm maybe I should now that everyone else is gone but in my mind Guns N' Roses is a band whether it's the new band or the original band, it's a band and the less interchanging of members the more cohesive they'll obviously be.

Bono-

Think of it as a sports franchise. The name of the team doesn't change when a player comes and goes. The fundamental activity of the sport doesn't change either, just the names and faces. Some free agents are more talented than others, some line-ups are more cohesive than others. When looked at in this light guys coming and going isn't such a bad thing as long as the owner stays the same. We only have to truly worry if Axl sells the team to new management. ;)


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Bono on October 26, 2006, 11:44:45 PM
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Bono-

Think of it as a sports franchise. The name of the team doesn't change when a player comes and goes. The fundamental activity of the sport doesn't change either, just the names and faces. Some free agents are more talented than others, some line-ups are more cohesive than others. When looked at in this light guys coming and going isn't such a bad thing as long as the owner stays the same. We only have to truly worry if Axl sells the team to new management. ;)

Ewww the dreaded sports franchise analogy. I made refrence to it earlier tonight. Not sucha  fan of this analogy. It amkes sense but it can't only be used for this scenario then, but that's another story..... As for this situation I can't think of it that way. it's not a sports team, it's a band. You don't make trades, you don't sign free agents, you dont' send members down to lesser bands for conditioning stints.  If it is simply like a sports franchise than that in itself is further proof that its Axl(assuming he's the owner) and a bunch of hired guns who are expendable the second somone better or more "co-operative" comes along.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: the dirt on October 26, 2006, 11:51:16 PM
As a sports team, Axl is an/(the) owner/player, what about that?


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Naupis on October 26, 2006, 11:52:46 PM
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you don't sign free agents, you dont' send members down to lesser bands for conditioning stints.

Well, we did secure the rights to have Bumble as a touring member this year. He was a prized free-agent acquisition. ?;D Not to mention in the past 2 years we have seen Brain, Richard, Tommy and Dizzy go off to their triple A franchises (Soul Asylum, CCBoBB, Hookers N' Blow and touring with Nena) to keep their skills sharp in the off season. It's like we have a built in farm system. All while the owner (Axl)was out scouting for talent to fill a hole on the team caused by the release of Buckethead (Bumble).

It is a little different, but this is alot more like a franchise than you realize.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on October 27, 2006, 12:02:07 AM
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you don't sign free agents, you dont' send members down to lesser bands for conditioning stints.

Well, we did secure the rights to have Bumble as a touring member this year. He was a prized acquisition. ?;D Not to mention in the past 2 years we have seen Brain, Richard, Tommy and Dizzy go off to their triple A franchises (Soul Asylum, CCBoBB, Hookers N' Blow and touring with Nena) to keep their skills sharp in the off season. It's like we have a built in farm system. All while the owner (Axl)was out scouting for talent to fill a hole on the team caused by the release of Buckethead (Bumble).

It is a little different, but this is alot more like a franchise than you realize.

So GNR was once a dynasty, who cant go anywhere nowa days.... While the expansion Velvet Revolver has won a championship in their first season.... But now with a new roster GNR promises once again to claim the top spot....

Ok enough of that!!


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: irgspice on October 27, 2006, 12:05:03 AM
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you don't sign free agents, you dont' send members down to lesser bands for conditioning stints.

Well, we did secure the rights to have Bumble as a touring member this year. He was a prized acquisition.  ;D Not to mention in the past 2 years we have seen Brain, Richard, Tommy and Dizzy go off to their triple A franchises (Soul Asylum, CCBoBB, Hookers N' Blow and touring with Nena) to keep their skills sharp in the off season. It's like we have a built in farm system. All while the owner (Axl)was out scouting for talent to fill a hole on the team caused by the release of Buckethead (Bumble).

It is a little different, but this is alot more like a franchise than you realize.

That's fairly dead on.  Consider this: Bach is the second quaterback.  He filled in for our star first quarterback in the last game of the playoffs, fourth quarter, 20 fucking yards to the endzone (Wembley)


"I've come to accept this concept and I'm cool with it.  Bring on the fucking franchise.  I've got tickets to MSG and I'm looking to seeing the team play. 


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: GeraldFord on October 27, 2006, 12:14:45 AM
This is jumping the gun a bit, but will the follow-up to CD look like this?

Axl
Tommy
Chris
Dizzy
Robin
Ron
Richard
Frank

Ahh, I bet at least 3 of those will be gone by '09!


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Tomorrows on October 27, 2006, 12:15:28 AM
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you don't sign free agents, you dont' send members down to lesser bands for conditioning stints.

Well, we did secure the rights to have Bumble as a touring member this year. He was a prized acquisition.  ;D Not to mention in the past 2 years we have seen Brain, Richard, Tommy and Dizzy go off to their triple A franchises (Soul Asylum, CCBoBB, Hookers N' Blow and touring with Nena) to keep their skills sharp in the off season. It's like we have a built in farm system. All while the owner (Axl)was out scouting for talent to fill a hole on the team caused by the release of Buckethead (Bumble).

It is a little different, but this is alot more like a franchise than you realize.

That's fairly dead on.  Consider this: Bach is the second quaterback.  He filled in for our star first quarterback in the last game of the playoffs, fourth quarter, 20 fucking yards to the endzone (Wembley)


"I've come to accept this concept and I'm cool with it.  Bring on the fucking franchise.  I've got tickets to MSG and I'm looking to seeing the team play. 

Yes, lets revel in how transient it is to be a member of GNR.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Bono on October 27, 2006, 12:21:40 AM
Well, we did secure the rights to have Bumble as a touring member this year. He was a prized acquisition. ?;D Not to mention in the past 2 years we have seen Brain, Richard, Tommy and Dizzy go off to their triple A franchises (Soul Asylum, CCBoBB, Hookers N' Blow and touring with Nena) to keep their skills sharp in the off season. It's like we have a built in farm system. All while the owner (Axl)was out scouting for talent to fill a hole on the team caused by the release of Buckethead (Bumble).

It is a little different, but this is alot more like a franchise than you realize.

So GNR was once a dynasty, who cant go anywhere nowa days.... While the expansion Velvet Revolver has won a championship in their first season.... But now with a new roster GNR promises once again to claim the top spot....

Ok enough of that!!

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Both of those posts were fucking hilarious :beer:


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Eazy E on October 27, 2006, 01:02:49 AM
Management told us:

"Brain and Frank are both in Guns N' Roses"

They just had a roster spot to fill, so they signed another drummer.  Honestly,  I don't know what to think of it....  I wonder if GN'R has more replacements than Kiss now.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Continental Drift on October 27, 2006, 01:06:18 AM
HAHAHA.... some funny shit in this thread.

In all seriousness... the essential "core" of this band is: Rose, Reed, Finck, Fortus and Stinson. The Rose, Slash, Stradlin' and McKagan of yesteryear. As long as those guys are still involved... I think the band can get by with changes in the 2nd keyboardist... or 2nd guitarist... or even drummer positions.

For the meantime- I would consider Brain still in the band... especially since this would be a particularly curious time for him to walk away OR be fired. Maybe he's on "extended hiatus" to be with his kid.


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: BumbleFinck on October 27, 2006, 01:07:37 AM
This is jumping the gun a bit, but will the follow-up to CD look like this?

Axl
Tommy
Chris
Dizzy
Robin
Ron
Richard
Frank

Ahh, I bet at least 3 of those will be gone by '09!

No the follow up to cd will look like this:

Axl
Slash
Izzy
Duff
Matt/Steven
^they will still have the two drummer thing going on


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Naupis on October 27, 2006, 01:08:34 AM
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They just had a roster spot to fill, so they signed another drummer. ?Honestly, ?I don't know what to think of it.... ?I wonder if GN'R has more replacements than Kiss now.

I wonder if it was a multi-year deal, or just a short one year deal with a team option for a second? ?:hihi:



Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Jizzo on October 27, 2006, 01:22:05 AM
most likely brain is sick and his tech is filling in just like last time brain couldn't play.

i can't imagine brain rejoining the band for the 5 shows last month only to leave again


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: bDinan on October 27, 2006, 01:28:26 AM
The follow up will be:

W. Axl Rose- Lead Vocals
Bill S. Preston Esq.- Lead Guitar
Ted Theodore Logan- Rhythym Guitar
The Grim Reaper- Bass
Station- bongos
the princesses on drums
Pitman on keys


Title: Re: GN'R.com says drummer is Frank
Post by: Skeba on October 27, 2006, 01:47:41 AM
Like Jarmo said in the other thread already. They're both in. For now, we'll see more of GN'R. One thread for this is enough.