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Title: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 10:33:27 PM
This was linked on mygnr:

http://www.bauda.com/design/cd%201/work/index.php?directory=.&currentPic=7


(http://www.bauda.com/design/cd%201/work/08.JPG)


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: fixintodie on October 25, 2006, 10:34:27 PM
That looks lousy, got to be fake.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 10:35:56 PM
Um...no..go to their site, they're a legit CD packaging design company.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: evergreen_layne on October 25, 2006, 10:36:45 PM
Um....there's no way that's official.  Um.....it sucks.....um....thank you.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 25, 2006, 10:37:05 PM
i like it. ?a whole lot, would make a cool looking shirt.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: tommy gun on October 25, 2006, 10:38:39 PM
its sweet - much better than gh


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 10:39:31 PM
How is it not official? Did you go to the site? They've done CD design for major releases:

Click here: http://www.bauda.com/design/cd%201/index.php


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on October 25, 2006, 10:39:45 PM
Yeah.....I just don't see an old-GN'R package having new-GN'R insignia on it.

FAKE.

(Kinda cool though)


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 10:42:23 PM
Explain to me how its fake....

Click the fucking link.

They've designed Motley's "Red, White and Crue", Audioslave's new cd, and numerous others. I guess all of those are fake too?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: fixintodie on October 25, 2006, 10:44:10 PM
No, to be honest I didn't go to their site. Sorry ?:peace:

To make up for it:

Disc One:

Welcome To The Jungle
Mr Brownstone
Sweet Child O' Mine
November Rain
Civil War
14 Years
Used To Love Her
Out Ta Get Me
Down On The Farm
Perfect Crime
My Michelle
Coma
Move To The City
Nightrain
Live And Let Die
Don't Cry

Disc 2
It's So Easy
You Could Be Mine
Paradise City
Knocking On Heaven's Door
Patience
Yesterdays
Pretty Tied Up
Black Leather
Double Talkin' Jive
Locomotive
Dead Horse
You're Crazy
Estranged
Rocket Queen


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 25, 2006, 10:48:08 PM
it'll be tight if it turned out to be new gnr's recordings? :drool: :drool: :drool:
something new for once :P


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 10:49:38 PM
If it was re-recorded, there wouldn't be a pic of the AFD lineup...


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: guns_n_motley on October 25, 2006, 10:50:07 PM
when is this coming out??


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 10:50:34 PM
It's not fake.

This company designed the cover for Motley Crue's Red, White & Blue.

Apparently, at some point, they were hired to do this for GN'R.

My guess? Geffen threatened Axl again that they would release a Best-Of if he didn't get the ball rolling with CD. It's weird how it was listed on Amazon and there was a guy who had contact with Slash and used to know Axl (?) blogging about it, and then all that disappeared suddenly.

Whether or not it's coming out in the future, this was, at one time, an actual project.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 10:51:20 PM
It's not fake.

This company designed the cover for Motley Crue's Red, White & Blue.

Apparently, at some point, they were hired to do this for GN'R.

My guess? Geffen threatened Axl again that they would release a Best-Of if he didn't get the ball rolling with CD. It's weird how it was listed on Amazon and there was a guy who had contact with Slash and used to know Axl (?) blogging about it, and then all that disappeared suddenly.

Whether or not it's coming out in the future, this was, at one time, an actual project.

Yep - like I said before. Thanks for backing me up man!  : ok:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 25, 2006, 10:52:01 PM
If it was re-recorded, there wouldn't be a pic of the AFD lineup...
In the european promos it shows live footage of old ?band..

im just Saying.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 10:53:13 PM
If it was re-recorded, there wouldn't be a pic of the AFD lineup...
In the european promos it shows live footage of old  band..

im just Saying.


That's because whoever designed those commercials is a moron. This was/is a legitimate Universal release. They wouldn't/couldn't do something like that.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: GNRfan2008 on October 25, 2006, 10:54:05 PM
I didn't buy GH, but this one might be worthy of purchase if it has "Sympathy For The Devil" on it. That was the only reason to buy GH in the first place since it was such a horrible collection of their best songs. A real "best of" for GN'R would have to include at least 9 of the 12 songs from Appetite, and then "Coma" and "Estranged" from UYI at the very least (out of songs from UYI that were ignored for GH). 


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Smoking Guns on October 25, 2006, 10:54:19 PM
I like the artwork.. Kind of a differnt look. ?Looks good!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 10:54:52 PM
If it was re-recorded, there wouldn't be a pic of the AFD lineup...

They would never release re-recorded stuff.

And do you think Axl would bother re-recording Black Leather and Down on the Farm?  ::)

This proves that the conceptual artwork for the band's newer logo that surfaced prior to the European tour had been created months prior, since this album was available on Amazon in December '05 for a period of time.

The question is: was this logo invented for the Best of, and then used for the new band when they went on tour because it was already available (after this project had been scrapped)?

OR did they invent the logo KNOWING the band was going to re-surface for a tour?

And if this is the case, why the hell did they cancel the album last-minute? It was on many sites for pre-order.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 10:56:51 PM
I didn't buy GH, but this one might be worthy of purchase if it has "Sympathy For The Devil" on it. That was the only reason to buy GH in the first place since it was such a horrible collection of their best songs. A real "best of" for GN'R would have to include at least 9 of the 12 songs from Appetite, and then "Coma" and "Estranged" from UYI at the very least (out of songs from UYI that were ignored for GH). 

Fixintodie posted the tracklist:

Disc One:

Welcome To The Jungle
Mr Brownstone
Sweet Child O' Mine
November Rain
Civil War
14 Years
Used To Love Her
Out Ta Get Me
Down On The Farm
Perfect Crime
My Michelle
Coma
Move To The City
Nightrain
Live And Let Die
Don't Cry

Disc 2
It's So Easy
You Could Be Mine
Paradise City
Knocking On Heaven's Door
Patience
Yesterdays
Pretty Tied Up
Black Leather
Double Talkin' Jive
Locomotive
Dead Horse
You're Crazy
Estranged
Rocket Queen


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 10:57:00 PM
If it was re-recorded, there wouldn't be a pic of the AFD lineup...
In the european promos it shows live footage of old  band..

im just Saying.


That's because whoever designed those commercials is a moron. This was/is a legitimate Universal release. They wouldn't/couldn't do something like that.

Yes, if they posted false artwork attributed to Universal/Geffen on their website, they would be liable to get their asses sued.

BTW, the first thing I thought of when I saw the blood-splatter style artwork was, "Motley Crue Red White & Crue." Same style.

I'm wondering if this guy invented the "new" GN'R logo (that we've seen on the official site and such) or if the logo was invented beforehand and he used it on the album.

Which would indicate that Geffen/Axl/etc. planned on a tour since some time in 2005, and it was not a last-minute "let's go on tour" deal. This was all planned very well in advance.

But if this is the case, then why did they cancel the album..?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 10:59:23 PM
Oh, and one more thing: the chances of this surfacing now is weird. I wonder if they're going to drop a Very Best Of and Chinese Democracy on the same day...  Huh

Do you remember last December, Very Best of GN'R was on Amazon for preorder, and then it suddenly changed to Chinese Democracy, and then it was totally removed?

Methinks there is something rumbling, fellas...and has been since last December...


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 11:04:23 PM
Yeah, I don't get it either - the whole thing with the new logo being used it the thing that I find the most interesting.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 11:06:10 PM
Yeah, I don't get it either - the whole thing with the new logo being used it the thing that I find the most interesting.

I wonder if it'll be released alongside CD.

I hope it does get released, actually. The packaging for Motley Crue's album was excellent. I love that album. It's the equivalent of a Criterion DVD - it even had an essay pamphlet inside. The GN'R one would be kickass. The tracklist isn't exactly what I expected, though...I like Down on the Farm and all, but c'mon, taking precedence over some of their other hits...?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Mateoson on October 25, 2006, 11:07:45 PM
Clearly this is real. It's for the album that was once listed on Amazon and other sites last year. The question is whether or not this album will be released, get released w/ C.D., etc. etc. I think the artwork is great though.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 11:08:38 PM
Yeah, I don't get it either - the whole thing with the new logo being used it the thing that I find the most interesting.

I wonder if it'll be released alongside CD.

I hope it does get released, actually. The packaging for Motley Crue's album was excellent. I love that album. It's the equivalent of a Criterion DVD - it even had an essay pamphlet inside. The GN'R one would be kickass. The tracklist isn't exactly what I expected, though...I like Down on the Farm and all, but c'mon, taking precedence over some of their other hits...?


What would have been interesting is to include "Sympathy For the Devil" and "Shadow Of Your Love" on there. I'm sure alot of diehards would buy it for "Shadow" alone.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on October 25, 2006, 11:09:29 PM
My belief is that last fall, when Axl and Slash were ?known to be in contact, the plan was maybe to drop this and do a tour with the original band. ?But for some reason, plans changed and they decided to actually release CD, and then release this Very Best of in 2008 when the reunion tour will happen.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 11:09:57 PM
Clearly this is real. It's for the album that was once listed on Amazon and other sites last year. The question is whether or not this album will be released, get released w/ C.D., etc. etc. I think the artwork is great though.

As I mentioned before, this album was first "confirmed" back in '05 for a late December release. It wasn't confirmed by Geffen but was confirmed by other sources and listed on Amazon.com (and many other sites) for preorder. Someone who knew Slash/the band also blogged about it and said he had spoken to Slash about it. After the album was canceled he deleted his post and people assumed he was lying.

Anyway, it was on Amazon for a while and then CHANGED to Chinese Democracy one day...the actual listing was the same - the same URL and all - but the title of the album changed.

Seems like a weird coincidence...

I bet this is going to be released alongside Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Niko on October 25, 2006, 11:10:25 PM
it was kinda a GH by geffen set to released in december of 2005, but somehow it never came out

want a source, search it, google it, its all over the internet ?:beer:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 11:11:22 PM
My belief is that last fall, when Axl and Slash were  known to be in contact, the plan was maybe to drop this and do a tour with the original band.  But for some reason, plans changed and they decided to actually release CD, and then release this Very Best of in 2008 when the reunion tour will happen.

I don't think they were going to do an original tour.

I think they were going to drop CD last Christmas and Axl/someone changed their minds last second. It was thereby removed from Amazon.

I think Amazon got mixed up and initially listed Very Best Of, and then they got the order for Chinese Democracy and REPLACED the "Best Of" with CD on the site...whereas they were actually two separate albums listed for release on the same day.

Chances are someone at Amazon saw the same release date and figured the Very Best Of was a mistake and just replaced it with CD.

Then after a week or so it was completely removed from Amazon.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: GNRfan2008 on October 25, 2006, 11:14:12 PM
Well that track list is good (I'm glad they put 9/12 from Appetite on there and both "Estranged" and "Coma"). However, I'm disappointed in some of the other choices as well as leaving off "Sympathy For The Devil." Some of the songs they put on there should have been left off for something like "One In A Million." Yes, the lyrics are really offensive and all, but musically it's a damn good song. At least "Used To Love Her" is on there. :)


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on October 25, 2006, 11:14:55 PM
Oh, and one more thing: the chances of this surfacing now is weird. I wonder if they're going to drop a Very Best Of and Chinese Democracy on the same day... Huh

Do you remember last December, Very Best of GN'R was on Amazon for preorder, and then it suddenly changed to Chinese Democracy, and then it was totally removed?

Methinks there is something rumbling, fellas...and has been since last December...

I think this is all kinda fishy too.. ?I don't think that they'd release the new GH cd on the same day as CD, because that could distract sales away from CD... but around the same time, I could defently see that as a possibility.

I kinda hope it's released too, it's a fairly good collection and would be good to keep in the car. ?Disc 1 looks way better than disc 2 IMO though. ?And the lack of DDM is a let down, but still a nice collection of songs.

I like the artwork as well. ?Not crazy about the cover, but everything else looks top notch. ?I hope the CD artwork is as nice as this. ?The use of the newer logos as opposed to the old logos makes sence to me as well (if this album is released around the time of CD) so that the new fans will gobble it up.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Booker Floyd on October 25, 2006, 11:17:21 PM
I didn't buy GH, but this one might be worthy of purchase if it has "Sympathy For The Devil" on it. That was the only reason to buy GH in the first place since it was such a horrible collection of their best songs. A real "best of" for GN'R would have to include at least 9 of the 12 songs from Appetite, and then "Coma" and "Estranged" from UYI at the very least (out of songs from UYI that were ignored for GH). 

I dont think you understand the concept of "greatest hits" compilations.

Nice artwork, particularly on the discs themselves, but good riddance to such an unnecessary project.  The band only has 3 original albums and most of this was covered on Greatest Hits.  And some of the selections are puzzling: "Black Leather?"  "Move To The City?"  No "One In A Million?"  No "Hair Of The Dog?"


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on October 25, 2006, 11:18:24 PM
Another note to think about, when did they start putting that FBI Anti-Piracy logo on the back of cds. ?Didn't that start in 2006? ?I know every cd that I've bought this year had that logo plastered on the back nice and huge, but I can't remember if it were standard for 2005 cds. ?Maybe that could point to this being newer..

And why is this just coming up now, instead of months and months ago?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: GNRfan2008 on October 25, 2006, 11:19:56 PM
I didn't buy GH, but this one might be worthy of purchase if it has "Sympathy For The Devil" on it. That was the only reason to buy GH in the first place since it was such a horrible collection of their best songs. A real "best of" for GN'R would have to include at least 9 of the 12 songs from Appetite, and then "Coma" and "Estranged" from UYI at the very least (out of songs from UYI that were ignored for GH). 

I dont think you understand the concept of "greatest hits" compilations.

Nice artwork, particularly on the discs themselves, but good riddance to such an unnecessary project.  The band only has 3 original albums and most of this was covered on Greatest Hits.  And some of the selections are puzzling: "Black Leather?"  "Move To The City?"  No "One In A Million?"  No "Hair Of The Dog?"

I do understand the concept, and some of the songs they put on GH weren't even hits at all to be honest. It's just that a lot of artists use the "Greatest Hits" title but then put a real best of on the album.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on October 25, 2006, 11:20:13 PM
No "One In A Million?"

Your kidding right? ?I know there are songs missing, but this isn't one of them! ?The record company would have to be legally insane to rerelease this song (no matter how great it is).


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 11:22:11 PM
TIMELINE:

- Late 2005. An album appears on Amazon with the title "The Very Best of GN'R: Welcome to the Jungle." It is available for preorder. Release date is not set, but instead lists "December 25 2025," the default date for all "undetermined" releases.

- Outside sites start confirming the album through the album label. Media outlets begin to issue articles announcing the album's pending release.

- Ross Halfin posts a blog claiming he spoke to Slash about the "upcoming album" The Very Best of Guns N' Roses.

- Suddenly the album listing on Amazon.com changes from "The Very Best Of" to Chinese Democracy. The URL is the same and the sales rank is the same; apparently the title has changed but the page itself is the same. It is still available for preorder.

- About a week later, it disappears off the site after peaking on the preorder list in the top 50.

- Ross Halfin's blog disappears.

- A couple months pass and then the European tour dates begin to come into fruition, and the "New Logo" makes its first appearance.

----------------------------

My take:

I think the album was set for release last year along with CD.

I think someone on Amazon got two orders for two different GN'R albums for release on the same day and thought it was a mistake. He probably saww that Greatest Hits had been released the year before and assumed Very Best Of was a mistake on the vendor's part, so he OVERWROTE the entry on Amazon with Chinese Democracy, instead of making a NEW entry on the site for the album.

Then, Geffen/Axl/whoever decided to postpone it and as such all plans were scrapped. Axl decided to go on tour first and they pushed it forward to THIS year.

Meanwhile, the artwork for the abandoned "Very Best Of" was taken and used in advertisements for the European concert. The "New" GN'R Logo is lifted from the Very Best Of artwork and used on GN'R posters and online ads.

And now, I'm expecting our announcement within the next few days/weeks will be that CD is coming out, it's being released alongside Very Best Of GN'R for promotion purposes, AND a single will drop.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Booker Floyd on October 25, 2006, 11:28:38 PM
Another note to think about, when did they start putting that FBI Anti-Piracy logo on the back of cds.  Didn't that start in 2006? 

Silvertides 2004 album Show And Tell features it.

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I do understand the concept, and some of the songs they put on GH weren't even hits at all to be honest. It's just that a lot of artists use the "Greatest Hits" title but then put a real best of on the album.

Most importantly, it did feature all of GNRs hits.  The ones that werent exactly hits were at least singles.  The most glaring omission would be "Estranged," but that likely due to time constraints.  Also, the artists apparently had little-to-no input in the tracklisting.  I think it fit the "Greatest Hits" bill well.

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Your kidding right?  I know there are songs missing, but this isn't one of them!  The record company would have to be legally insane to rerelease this song (no matter how great it is).

Legally?  Would they get sued for including it or something?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: oneway23 on October 25, 2006, 11:33:04 PM
TIMELINE:

- Late 2005. An album appears on Amazon with the title "The Very Best of GN'R: Welcome to the Jungle." It is available for preorder. Release date is not set, but instead lists "December 25 2025," the default date for all "undetermined" releases.

- Outside sites start confirming the album through the album label. Media outlets begin to issue articles announcing the album's pending release.

- Ross Halfin posts a blog claiming he spoke to Slash about the "upcoming album" The Very Best of Guns N' Roses.

- Suddenly the album listing on Amazon.com changes from "The Very Best Of" to Chinese Democracy. The URL is the same and the sales rank is the same; apparently the title has changed but the page itself is the same. It is still available for preorder.

- About a week later, it disappears off the site after peaking on the preorder list in the top 50.

- Ross Halfin's blog disappears.

- A couple months pass and then the European tour dates begin to come into fruition, and the "New Logo" makes its first appearance.

----------------------------

My take:

I think the album was set for release last year along with CD.

I think someone on Amazon got two orders for two different GN'R albums for release on the same day and thought it was a mistake. He probably saww that Greatest Hits had been released the year before and assumed Very Best Of was a mistake on the vendor's part, so he OVERWROTE the entry on Amazon with Chinese Democracy, instead of making a NEW entry on the site for the album.

Then, Geffen/Axl/whoever decided to postpone it and as such all plans were scrapped. Axl decided to go on tour first and they pushed it forward to THIS year.

Meanwhile, the artwork for the abandoned "Very Best Of" was taken and used in advertisements for the European concert. The "New" GN'R Logo is lifted from the Very Best Of artwork and used on GN'R posters and online ads.

And now, I'm expecting our announcement within the next few days/weeks will be that CD is coming out, it's being released alongside Very Best Of GN'R for promotion purposes, AND a single will drop.

Sounds feasible enough, but I'm a bit perplexed as to why you'd want to remind the buying public of the "old" band's output when you've just spent the better part of the past year building up the new band's credibility with said public..


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 25, 2006, 11:33:58 PM
I bet if One In A Million popped up on there, that it'd be an edited version.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 11:37:04 PM
TIMELINE:

- Late 2005. An album appears on Amazon with the title "The Very Best of GN'R: Welcome to the Jungle." It is available for preorder. Release date is not set, but instead lists "December 25 2025," the default date for all "undetermined" releases.

- Outside sites start confirming the album through the album label. Media outlets begin to issue articles announcing the album's pending release.

- Ross Halfin posts a blog claiming he spoke to Slash about the "upcoming album" The Very Best of Guns N' Roses.

- Suddenly the album listing on Amazon.com changes from "The Very Best Of" to Chinese Democracy. The URL is the same and the sales rank is the same; apparently the title has changed but the page itself is the same. It is still available for preorder.

- About a week later, it disappears off the site after peaking on the preorder list in the top 50.

- Ross Halfin's blog disappears.

- A couple months pass and then the European tour dates begin to come into fruition, and the "New Logo" makes its first appearance.

----------------------------

My take:

I think the album was set for release last year along with CD.

I think someone on Amazon got two orders for two different GN'R albums for release on the same day and thought it was a mistake. He probably saww that Greatest Hits had been released the year before and assumed Very Best Of was a mistake on the vendor's part, so he OVERWROTE the entry on Amazon with Chinese Democracy, instead of making a NEW entry on the site for the album.

Then, Geffen/Axl/whoever decided to postpone it and as such all plans were scrapped. Axl decided to go on tour first and they pushed it forward to THIS year.

Meanwhile, the artwork for the abandoned "Very Best Of" was taken and used in advertisements for the European concert. The "New" GN'R Logo is lifted from the Very Best Of artwork and used on GN'R posters and online ads.

And now, I'm expecting our announcement within the next few days/weeks will be that CD is coming out, it's being released alongside Very Best Of GN'R for promotion purposes, AND a single will drop.

Sounds feasible enough, but I'm a bit perplexed as to why you'd want to remind the buying public of the "old" band's output when you've just spent the better part of the past year building up the new band's credibility with said public..

Because this is marketing, and they are appealing to people outside of the fanbase.

People who don't know the history of the band, etc. People start hearing the old songs again, the DJ says the new album is out, and they play a new song, and the people are hooked.

MOST people - NOT the die-hards - aren't going to care as much about Axl's "reinvention" of the band. Many people still go to GN'R shows expecting Slash. The general public do not = us, and they don't know as much as us. And right now to get this album to sell they have to appeal to the general public.

I'm not saying they should try to pass off the band as the "old" band - but releasing a Best Of in coordination with a new album is a great marketing strategy regardless of whether band lineups have changed. Not everyone treats GN'R as religiously as we do.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: oneway23 on October 25, 2006, 11:41:33 PM
Great point...So long as it's released in conjunction with as opposed to instead of, I'll be OK.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 11:43:59 PM
Great point...So long as it's released in conjunction with as opposed to instead of, I'll be OK.

Same here.

I think the album is going to get GN'R more press because people who "hate" Axl and his "new album" are going to almost be forced into discussing GN'R to some extent because of the new album Best Of that's out, and MAYBE these people who go to pick up the Best Of will be lured into buying the new one out of curiosity...something they wouldn't do otherwise.

It'll also just get more promotion in general for the new album.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: lennonisgod on October 25, 2006, 11:51:02 PM
Clearly this is real. It's for the album that was once listed on Amazon and other sites last year. The question is whether or not this album will be released, get released w/ C.D., etc. etc. I think the artwork is great though.

As I mentioned before, this album was first "confirmed" back in '05 for a late December release. It wasn't confirmed by Geffen but was confirmed by other sources and listed on Amazon.com (and many other sites) for preorder. Someone who knew Slash/the band also blogged about it and said he had spoken to Slash about it. After the album was canceled he deleted his post and people assumed he was lying.

Anyway, it was on Amazon for a while and then CHANGED to Chinese Democracy one day...the actual listing was the same - the same URL and all - but the title of the album changed.

Seems like a weird coincidence...

I bet this is going to be released alongside Chinese Democracy.

I don't think it would be a good idea to release it the same day as CD because that could end up hurting the sales.  If someone's attention is caught by something new from GN'R and they see the new album and a new 'best of', they could end up just buying the best of because they know it will be good and may not want to risk spending money on something new from GN'R. That will NEVER happen.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: newgnr on October 25, 2006, 11:53:03 PM
The artwork on that is fuckin badass! I especially love the artwork ont he cd's themselves.  I hope ChiDem looks something like that.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 11:53:07 PM
Clearly this is real. It's for the album that was once listed on Amazon and other sites last year. The question is whether or not this album will be released, get released w/ C.D., etc. etc. I think the artwork is great though.

As I mentioned before, this album was first "confirmed" back in '05 for a late December release. It wasn't confirmed by Geffen but was confirmed by other sources and listed on Amazon.com (and many other sites) for preorder. Someone who knew Slash/the band also blogged about it and said he had spoken to Slash about it. After the album was canceled he deleted his post and people assumed he was lying.

Anyway, it was on Amazon for a while and then CHANGED to Chinese Democracy one day...the actual listing was the same - the same URL and all - but the title of the album changed.

Seems like a weird coincidence...

I bet this is going to be released alongside Chinese Democracy.

I don't think it would be a good idea to release it the same day as CD because that could end up hurting the sales.  If someone's attention is caught by something new from GN'R and they see the new album and a new 'best of', they could end up just buying the best of because they know it will be good and may not want to risk spending money on something new from GN'R. That will NEVER happen.

I actually think the week before would be ideal. And each album would contain a promotional material of some type for Chinese Democracy. A sticker on the front, perhaps, with a coupon as well - a nice bonus for fans who already dished out for Greatest Hits. Maybe "$5 Off On Chinese Democracy!" Something like that...a marketing gimmick...they work more than you'd believe!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: -Jack- on October 26, 2006, 12:12:23 AM
Dude that cover is kick ASS.

If it's real.. then I'm buying.. only for the cover work.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: 1badapple on October 26, 2006, 12:19:01 AM
Maybe Chinese Democracy could be the bonus disc included with The Very Best Of...




I'm not serious, just being a bit of a smartass.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: RancidPunx on October 26, 2006, 12:39:39 AM
This album is fucking pointless. Why the fuck would someone buy this, when you could buy all the Guns albums for less money used? This is a double disc set for a band with only three actual albums released (Sorry, I don't count TSI).


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Dadud on October 26, 2006, 12:40:50 AM
Guys, before you go insane and start emailing them about it, dont bother. I Emailed them earlier asking for more information (IE. What is it for? is it a work in progress, or scrapped artwork? and other questions of the sort) If i get an email back from them tomorow ill be sure to post it.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 26, 2006, 12:45:33 AM
This album is fucking pointless. Why the fuck would someone buy this, when you could buy all the Guns albums for less money used? This is a double disc set for a band with only three actual albums released (Sorry, I don't count TSI).

Appetite - $9.99
UYI I - $14.99
UYI II - $14.99
TSI - $6.99

The Very Best Of - $18.99

 ???


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: RancidPunx on October 26, 2006, 12:57:46 AM
This album is fucking pointless. Why the fuck would someone buy this, when you could buy all the Guns albums for less money used? This is a double disc set for a band with only three actual albums released (Sorry, I don't count TSI).

Appetite - $9.99
UYI I - $14.99
UYI II - $14.99
TSI - $6.99

The Very Best Of - $18.99

 ???

I don't know what used store you go to that charges 14.99 for a used copy of UYI1&2 but that store is guilty of highway robbery. I still can't see why a band with 3 albums needs a double disc set like this, regardless of how cool the artwork is.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: -Jack- on October 26, 2006, 01:07:37 AM
This album is fucking pointless. Why the fuck would someone buy this, when you could buy all the Guns albums for less money used? This is a double disc set for a band with only three actual albums released (Sorry, I don't count TSI).

Appetite - $9.99
UYI I - $14.99
UYI II - $14.99
TSI - $6.99

The Very Best Of - $18.99

 ???

I don't know what used store you go to that charges 14.99 for a used copy of UYI1&2 but that store is guilty of highway robbery. I still can't see why a band with 3 albums needs a double disc set like this, regardless of how cool the artwork is.

Naw.. I bought UYI1 in LA for 20 bucks from Sam Goody.

14.99 is pretty good.  ;D

Maybe it depends on where you live


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: -Jack- on October 26, 2006, 01:08:52 AM
Disk One looks so fucking badass...

But.. at the same time.. maybe this shouldn't come out. Who knows...

Anyways.. I just sent the dude an email concerning the design. Maybe I can get some answers...


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: elevendayempire on October 26, 2006, 05:34:41 AM
This I Love:

  • The wankers who always shriek "FAKE" whenever something first appears, despite overwhelming evidence that it's not. You could put a copy of Chinese fucking Democracy in their hands and they'd go, "I think its fake, where's the proof loserrr lol111!!!11!!"
  • The conspiracy theorists who try to read something into the fact that the artwork's just been discovered. Could it be that, oh, I dunno, we hadn't seen this before because no-one thought to look at that cover design portfolio before now?
  • The people who don't understand basic principles of marketing. The reason bands release one Greatest Hits after another with different packaging is simply to sell more copies; they don't care if die-hard fans have an almost autistic need to buy everything from the band so it lines up pretty on their shelf. A couple of years on from the Greatest Hits release, all the people who could've bought it have done so, and the record company wants more product on the shelf, that little bit of marketing buzz that goes with having a new release out. So they wheel out a "Best Of" for Christmas. Couple of years later, it's a live album, then a "Very Best Of". It's the way of the world.

SG


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on October 26, 2006, 08:09:56 AM
Could this be a distraction, and actually be CD? In other words, give a realease date for this but actually release CD on that date.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on October 26, 2006, 08:11:02 AM
The tracklist makes no sense to me. "Move to the City" WTF?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: estrangedpaul on October 26, 2006, 08:44:42 AM
No, to be honest I didn't go to their site. Sorry ?:peace:

To make up for it:

Disc One:

Welcome To The Jungle
Mr Brownstone
Sweet Child O' Mine
November Rain
Civil War
14 Years
Used To Love Her
Out Ta Get Me
Down On The Farm
Perfect Crime
My Michelle
Coma
Move To The City
Nightrain
Live And Let Die
Don't Cry

Disc 2
It's So Easy
You Could Be Mine
Paradise City
Knocking On Heaven's Door
Patience
Yesterdays
Pretty Tied Up
Black Leather
Double Talkin' Jive
Locomotive
Dead Horse
You're Crazy
Estranged
Rocket Queen

That's actually an excellent tracklist. I think its a bit strange having 9/10 songs from one album (depending which version of You're Crazy is on there) but they would have to in order to have enough songs for a double-disc. It's just that record companies usually restrict to 4 or 5 songs from one album.

But its a good, a lot of my lesser known favourites are there, 14 Years, Double Talkin' Jive, Coma, Locomotive, Dead Horse, etc. I don't see the problem with Move To The City, its a good song and has a special meaning for the band, as Axl said in the Tokyo DVD. 4 songs from Lies is about right. Would have put Breakdown and Dust N' Bones in there myself instead of Yesterdays and You're Crazy, but a small complaint.

This really shows how strong the Illusion albums are. The best songs from each of the Illusion albums are as good as the Appetite ones, IMO.

The track order seems odd. November Rain seems very early. And Don't Cry the last track on the first CD? Paradise City would hae been cool to finish off the first CD and Estranged the second, but again that's nit-picking. Its a good selection.

What I would have liked is a couple of new songs, like U2 and Oasis did on their Best Of collections. Maybe the demo of Ain't Goin' Down, or a final studio version of a couple of CD songs. There are a couple of new songs, eg Better and Madagascar which are worthy, and I especially think it would have provided good promotion if released around the time of CD.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: PJ on October 26, 2006, 10:45:27 AM
this is disc was Axl version of the Greatests Hits... this was confirmed by a lot of people
halfin one of them.. and what his blog said was that he talked to slash and slash told him "that a new GH was going out but it was Axl versions.. and that he liked the new tracklist but Axls managment was bad..."


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: guns97 on October 26, 2006, 11:46:20 AM
Russian Roulette - well said

The great majority want Axl/Slash (myself included), and that will probably never change.? However, I do think they need to just release CD, get some singles out there and tour the living hell out of the US if Axl wants to really move forward and even come close to attempting what he had in the early 90's (I personally don't think he'll ever have that again).?

By dropping a studio "best of" with classic Guns at the same time as a new CD, you'll never get people to forget what once was, and further the belief that this is Axl with a cover band trying to make some money, especially when they find out Slash & co are not with him.? ?Sure they may hear it and want to go see them live, but in the end its not gonna help the on the fence people make the move to "new GNR"? -? I mean honestly if given the chance, how many of you would want new GNR and new/old music over old GNR and new/old music?? Very few.  Tell me that if you went to a show in say '07, at 10:30 the lights went out, WTTJ started and when the lights came on it was shining down on Slash you wouldn't shyte your pants!?!  That the building wouldn't be rocked to its foundation??

This is my most important point:  We're all just playing with the hand we've been dealt and have to realize that seeing GNR now will always happen in two parts - 1/2 when you see GNR and 1/2 when you see VR, but never as a whole.? ?In this case, the sum of these parts will NEVER equal the whole.

That's why I am so desperately hoping for a reunion tour.? This is the only thing re: GNR that would fully satsify me (and I know I am not alone) since I'd never seen them live from 87-93.?  In addition, I'd welcome lots of different kinds of new music from them, because at its roots, that is the GNR I know and grew up with.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: WARose on October 26, 2006, 03:17:58 PM
(http://www.bauda.com/design/cd%201/work/08.JPG)

this is quite nice, isn`t it?

Welcome To The Jungle
Mr. Brownstone
Sweet Child O' Mine
November Rain
Civil War
14 Years
Used To Love Her
Out Ta Get Me
Down On The Farm
Perfect Crime
My Michelle
Coma
Move To The City
Nightrain
Live & Let Die
Dont Cry

Its So Easy
You Could Be Mine
Paradise City
Knockin On Heavens Door
Patience
Yesterdays
Pretty Tied Up
Black Leather
Double Talkin Jive
Locomotive
Dead Horse
Youre Crazy
Estranged
Rocket Queen

they should`ve released this instead of the crappy greatest hits.... :-\

edit: can`t wait for CD`s artwork :hihi:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: anythinggoes on October 26, 2006, 03:19:09 PM
Already posted today mate


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 26, 2006, 03:19:21 PM
yeah, i like the cover


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: WARose on October 26, 2006, 03:20:08 PM
oh shit :hihi:

well anyways....  great artwork :peace:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 26, 2006, 03:21:53 PM
The rose on disc two looks like the exact one on the gunsnroses.com banner
check out the Detail.
(http://web.gunsnroses.com/images/ads/160x600_gnr2.jpg)


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: polluxlm on October 26, 2006, 03:22:52 PM
Good tracklist, but the order is fucked up. Can't have PC and SCOM that early.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: padje on October 26, 2006, 03:24:18 PM
Thats some fine work, especially like the images on the cd's... Made it yourself? You should be employed by Geffen!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Chris Axl on October 26, 2006, 03:25:22 PM
nice!

I miss Breakdown tough...


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: anythinggoes on October 26, 2006, 03:25:45 PM
Thats some fine work, especially like the images on the cd's... Made it yourself? You should be employed by Geffen!

Nope that is or was real he didnt do it


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 26, 2006, 03:25:58 PM
Thats some fine work, especially like the images on the cd's... Made it yourself? You should be employed by Geffen!
......It was made by the same person who did the 'Red, White, and Crue' cover art... its not fan-made.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: nycangel on October 26, 2006, 03:29:25 PM
this track list is much better than the original greatest hits, yay!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: T_Roxie on October 26, 2006, 03:31:56 PM
VR should definately nick the bullet design on the cd for their new albulm.? Hell, Axl should as well! :hihi:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: nonlinear on October 26, 2006, 03:33:59 PM
what do you mean "nick the bullet design"


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: damnthehaters on October 26, 2006, 03:34:55 PM
Good tracklist, but the order is fucked up. Can't have PC and SCOM that early.

lol....can't please everyone can you!  ;D


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: T_Roxie on October 26, 2006, 03:35:50 PM
what do you mean "nick the bullet design"


Use it (or a similar design) on their new cds, its awesome!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: WARose on October 26, 2006, 03:36:04 PM
The rose on disc two looks like the exact one on the gunsnroses.com banner
check out the Detail.
(http://web.gunsnroses.com/images/ads/160x600_gnr2.jpg)


i bet it`s exactely the same....  the new gnr logo is also the same....  could this company be responsible for the entire new gnr design??

this also brings all the theories about a planned reunion back in my mind :hihi:. late 2005 is just another mystery in the world of gnr i guess...

i wouldn`t be surprised if some of that stuff is actually included on the chinese democracy artwork...  like the design of the cds : ok:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 26, 2006, 03:38:10 PM
HOLY SHIT! i figured something out...


What if This Supposed GH2 Album IS CHINESE DEMOCRACY BUT WITH A FAKE TRACK LISTING? SO then everyone would think CD isnt coming out this year, and nobody would want to leak it because they think its Gh2! OMG, OMG OMG !!!

but honestly, i like the cover.. Theres just something about it...


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: TrixAreForKids on October 26, 2006, 03:40:07 PM
HOLY SHIT! i figured something out...


What if This Supposed GH2 Album IS CHINESE DEMOCRACY BUT WITH A FAKE TRACK LISTING? SO then everyone would think CD isnt coming out this year, and nobody would want to leak it because they think its Gh2! OMG, OMG OMG !!!

but honestly, i like the cover.. Theres just something about it...

How do explain the previous members on the back then?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: nonlinear on October 26, 2006, 03:40:20 PM
the bullet cd design is really cool, but it annoys me that the bullets aren't centered around the disc....  you notice that the bullets at the top of the CD are cut off, but you can see the entire bullets on the bottom of the cd.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 26, 2006, 03:41:42 PM
HOLY SHIT! i figured something out...


What if This Supposed GH2 Album IS CHINESE DEMOCRACY BUT WITH A FAKE TRACK LISTING? SO then everyone would think CD isnt coming out this year, and nobody would want to leak it because they think its Gh2! OMG, OMG OMG !!!

but honestly, i like the cover.. Theres just something about it...

How do explain the previous members on the back then?
its all part of the plan, my friend  :hihi: to trick us!  :nervous: im just kidding, but hey! you never know  :crying:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: axlsfury on October 26, 2006, 07:42:08 PM
Cool design.  I can't wait to see what CD looks like.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Nytunz on October 26, 2006, 07:44:13 PM
i wonder how CD will look like, imagine the Chinese Democracy all over in a record store..  ;D :o

I like that artwork. Would fith nice with a modern Best Of album. But i hope Chinese Democracy is a bit more artistic!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Fusion on October 26, 2006, 08:46:45 PM
TIMELINE:

- Late 2005. An album appears on Amazon with the title "The Very Best of GN'R: Welcome to the Jungle." It is available for preorder. Release date is not set, but instead lists "December 25 2025," the default date for all "undetermined" releases.

- Outside sites start confirming the album through the album label. Media outlets begin to issue articles announcing the album's pending release.

- Ross Halfin posts a blog claiming he spoke to Slash about the "upcoming album" The Very Best of Guns N' Roses.

- Suddenly the album listing on Amazon.com changes from "The Very Best Of" to Chinese Democracy. The URL is the same and the sales rank is the same; apparently the title has changed but the page itself is the same. It is still available for preorder.

- About a week later, it disappears off the site after peaking on the preorder list in the top 50.

- Ross Halfin's blog disappears.

- A couple months pass and then the European tour dates begin to come into fruition, and the "New Logo" makes its first appearance.

----------------------------

My take:

I think the album was set for release last year along with CD.

I think someone on Amazon got two orders for two different GN'R albums for release on the same day and thought it was a mistake. He probably saww that Greatest Hits had been released the year before and assumed Very Best Of was a mistake on the vendor's part, so he OVERWROTE the entry on Amazon with Chinese Democracy, instead of making a NEW entry on the site for the album.

Then, Geffen/Axl/whoever decided to postpone it and as such all plans were scrapped. Axl decided to go on tour first and they pushed it forward to THIS year.

Meanwhile, the artwork for the abandoned "Very Best Of" was taken and used in advertisements for the European concert. The "New" GN'R Logo is lifted from the Very Best Of artwork and used on GN'R posters and online ads.

And now, I'm expecting our announcement within the next few days/weeks will be that CD is coming out, it's being released alongside Very Best Of GN'R for promotion purposes, AND a single will drop.

Hey man,

Loved reading your insights and the nice little wrap up you did of what happened with Amazon last year.  I remember it quite well and I think you got all the details right.

I don't really agree with your take however.  It relies on a pretty big assumption, i.e. that someone at Amazon made their own call about two listings they received.  They assumed it was the same thing and so overwrote the first entry.  I don't know, I would imagine that Amazon most likely has a policy for such cases; and it would probably be that if there is any significant doubt about a listing to contact the record company and have the matter clarified so that the right listing is put up.

My opinions now: to me it doesn't make a lot of sense to release a Best of alongside Chi Dem.  You are right, it could bring new fans on board, but really the way to promote an album is with a hot single and video.  Fans need a reason to want Chinese Democracy, and that is with songs that are on Chinese Democracy.  Single + video + tour = sales.  This is how it's always been done.  New fans are more likely to buy the old stuff after they have bought Chi Dem.

I think what may have happened is the record company threatened Axl with releasing another compilation album so that he'd hurry up with CD.  Or maybe Axl decided to put it out to appease them, since I believe Slash said that this was Axl's choice of tracklisting.  Could be in Geffen's eyes that it had to either be the Best of or something else.  Eventually they decided on the latter, i.e. a tour.  Maybe it was Axl who decided he didn't want to release a Best of, and so he proposed the summer 2006 Euro tour instead.  It really was a fairly lengthly series of shows to do for a band with no album coming until late fall/early winter.  So maybe it was designed to get some pre-promotion going in addition to making some cash for the record company.  I also think it's likely Axl had to promise the album would be ready for late 2006, and maybe Geffen had him sign a contract to that effect (they would if they could I'm sure).  If Axl failed to deliver then maybe he'd have to pay some sort of penalty or hand the album over whatever state it was in.

This is all my speculation of course.  I guess there are many ways things could have gone down.  What's funny is that this also really ties in with the whole Slash appearing at Axl's house thing late last year.  If that had any truth to it then their meeting may have had something to do with the Best of.  Maybe there was a reunion planned like Minneapolisnewsma speculated but they decided to postpone it.

Personally I believe a Best of would work better to promote a reunion and they probably want to keep that door open.  If they released the Best of in conjunction with Chi Dem then people may buy it and want to hear those songs live, but that won't happen because Axl will be playing more Chinese Democracy songs.  It's just not a great idea  IMO.  They don't need the extra promo, as I said the media coverage will be huge regardless and will draw lots of attention to the old hits.  Plus, Greatest Hits is still on shelves if people want to hear those songs.  Stuff like Estranged, Coma, 14 Years, Dead Horse, etc...these songs are not going to make people buy the Best of and then subsequently Chi Dem.  Songs like NR, WTTJ, and SCOM will and those are already on GH.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: guns97 on October 26, 2006, 09:22:36 PM
VR should definately nick the bullet design on the cd for their new albulm.? Hell, Axl should as well! :hihi:

agreed


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: guns97 on October 26, 2006, 09:25:21 PM
what do you mean "nick the bullet design"


Nick is British slang for steal...like, "hey you nicked my stereo"... something you might say to a Scouser


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: crofty on October 27, 2006, 06:59:51 AM
It comes from the ealy days of mining where someone would stake a claim and start mining, if someone came along and found the place with no-one there, they would carve a nick into the beam at the entrance to the mine. 3 nicks and they took the mine from you. Also, Scouse is the name of a hotpot-type stew cooked in liverpool. ooh, How very edumacational!

also, I wouldn't be surprised if CD did have elements of the VBO artwork (assuming the VBO project is dead)
Peace, I'm off for a weekend with my lady.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: T_Roxie on October 27, 2006, 07:36:37 AM
It comes from the ealy days of mining where someone would stake a claim and start mining, if someone came along and found the place with no-one there, they would carve a nick into the beam at the entrance to the mine. 3 nicks and they took the mine from you. Also, Scouse is the name of a hotpot-type stew cooked in liverpool. ooh, How very edumacational!

also, I wouldn't be surprised if CD did have elements of the VBO artwork (assuming the VBO project is dead)
Peace, I'm off for a weekend with my lady.

WOW.  I had no idea. :yes:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Meanmachine22 on October 27, 2006, 07:48:49 AM
Someone said that we might actually seen the cover artwork of CD with a fake track list and added picture (old band)
I don't think it is too fat fetched. CD is such a big mystery thing and you can 't hide it completely especially when other companys are involved (meaning productiobn of the actual disc & the company who is reponsible for the artwork etc...)
To me it seems that the record company spreads certain kinds of truths
Result : confusion. Nobody actually knows the real deal and the way the album will drop remains hided.

I think that is the album cover!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: WARose on October 27, 2006, 08:53:25 AM
Someone said that we might actually seen the cover artwork of CD with a fake track list and added picture (old band)
I don't think it is too fat fetched. CD is such a big mystery thing and you can 't hide it completely especially when other companys are involved (meaning productiobn of the actual disc & the company who is reponsible for the artwork etc...)
To me it seems that the record company spreads certain kinds of truths
Result : confusion. Nobody actually knows the real deal and the way the album will drop remains hided.

I think that is the album cover!

no way!!    there`s absolutely NO way slash and izzy would be on the cover of chinese democracy......    also it`s two cds, whereas CD is going to be only one cd.

of course overinterpreting goes along with all the mystery and no-information involved in our wait for a release (date), but i think we`ll get information when there is something to be informed about...


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: blues rocker on October 27, 2006, 09:15:51 AM
the album artwork looks very cool....modern, but still has the old gnr feel...i'm an artist/designer, and it is my professional opinion that the stuff looks good


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: TWT on October 27, 2006, 09:24:20 AM
Rubbish design, rubbish tracklisting*. No wonder it was canned.


*Anything that considers Black Leather worthy of inclusion on a Best Of GNR instantly becomes shit.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: stvyrayvhn on October 27, 2006, 09:57:05 AM
Someone said that we might actually seen the cover artwork of CD with a fake track list and added picture (old band)
I don't think it is too fat fetched. CD is such a big mystery thing and you can 't hide it completely especially when other companys are involved (meaning productiobn of the actual disc & the company who is reponsible for the artwork etc...)
To me it seems that the record company spreads certain kinds of truths
Result : confusion. Nobody actually knows the real deal and the way the album will drop remains hided.

I think that is the album cover!

I agree changing the picture and the tracklisting would be nothing.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: GNR estranged on October 27, 2006, 01:54:11 PM
i agree with fusion.

i don't think it would be smart at all to release a two disc set around the same time Chinese Democracy is released. Most people don't buy CDs as it is, let alone buying 3 CDs at the same time. Some people might go to the store with only enough money to buy one, and since they know the songs on the best of cd, they will buy that instead of chinese democracy. i think what happened was that the record label got fed up and said that if chinese democracy wasn't ready they would release this set instead. who knows though, im done trying to figure out things that happen with gnr. the artwork does look really cool though.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: MrBrOwNsToNeR on October 27, 2006, 02:14:16 PM
This was linked on mygnr:

http://www.bauda.com/design/cd%201/work/index.php?directory=.&currentPic=7


(http://www.bauda.com/design/cd%201/work/08.JPG)

Fuckin awesome !!!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 27, 2006, 03:08:22 PM
it looks like fan artwork


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: misterID on October 27, 2006, 03:21:10 PM
It looks pretty fuckin tight to me. 8)


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: fixintodie on October 27, 2006, 04:03:29 PM
Just to qualify, I do like the disc art, but I think the cover with the typewritten effect looks like a poor quality bootleg.

Black Leather definitely has no place there. At least Ain't It Fun was a single.

The folks saying Chi Dem would have a cover like this - didn't that guy who did the tour poster do the new artwork for CD?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: nonlinear on October 27, 2006, 04:07:43 PM
Just to qualify, I do like the disc art, but I think the cover with the typewritten effect looks like a poor quality bootleg.

Black Leather definitely has no place there. At least Ain't It Fun was a single.

The folks saying Chi Dem would have a cover like this - didn't that guy who did the tour poster do the new artwork for CD?

I think that was just a rumor started by some board member, there's never been any evidence that that guy did any additional artwork.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Mr. Madagascar on October 27, 2006, 06:11:04 PM
If somebody have thought about to zoom in on the track list to read it, why haven?t  anybody thought about zoom in on the text on the back to see what year is says???


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: MrBrOwNsToNeR on October 28, 2006, 11:32:09 AM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Lucky on October 28, 2006, 11:53:42 AM
I think it was first made for the Best of and band later decided to use it, since it was already available.
remember, the first time this logo apeared was on the site of some venue or something like that.
and later it appeared on fortus' page.
I guess they just went along with it.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: misterID on October 28, 2006, 01:08:48 PM
I think this would be a killer album cover for CD.

Did anyone check out the videos that these guys did? (link on the first post) Fucking amazing. I hate Motley Crue and they even made them look cool, even the Meatloaf vid looked good. They need to do GNR's first video. Without a doubt.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Dont Try Me on October 28, 2006, 01:13:17 PM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.

yeah. Ain't fan-art at all. Besides. 'dave;gnfr2k' seems to be on a roll making weird comments lately.  :confused:



Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: gnrfanxxx on October 28, 2006, 03:17:45 PM
its deffinatly fake, why would down on the farm be there?! that song sucked


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: CheapJon on October 28, 2006, 03:18:48 PM
its deffinatly fake, why would down on the farm be there?! that song sucked

IYO, IMO it's one of the best in TSI


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: gnrfanxxx on October 28, 2006, 03:20:33 PM
its deffinatly fake, why would down on the farm be there?! that song sucked

IYO, IMO it's one of the best in TSI

dude atitude and new rose were the best on that cd, if down on the farm did better than those then im ready to vomit


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: damnthehaters on October 28, 2006, 03:57:07 PM
its deffinatly fake, why would down on the farm be there?! that song sucked

IYO, IMO it's one of the best in TSI

dude atitude and new rose were the best on that cd, if down on the farm did better than those then im ready to vomit

I love down on the farm!  I also love black leather, and aint it fun!


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 28, 2006, 04:14:46 PM
its deffinatly fake, why would down on the farm be there?! that song sucked


Its real - did you even bother to look at the first page of this thread?  ::)


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: sic. on October 28, 2006, 04:48:01 PM
who knows what this GH PT 2 really is , but one thing is , IMHO , a fact .. this time next year we WONT be wondering when democracy is coming out , we will be enjoying it and seculating on what the next single will be.

It sure seemed like that back then. 

:'(


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 28, 2006, 04:50:46 PM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.

yeah. Ain't fan-art at all. Besides. 'dave;gnfr2k' seems to be on a roll making weird comments lately.? :confused:



Like I said, why would an old gnr GHs package use the new gnr artwork? That makes no sense. And is that even offical or just some import that some company is putting out


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 28, 2006, 04:52:31 PM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.

yeah. Ain't fan-art at all. Besides. 'dave;gnfr2k' seems to be on a roll making weird comments lately.  :confused:



Like I said, why would an old gnr GHs package use the new gnr artwork? That makes no sense. And is that even offical or just some import that some company is putting out

ITS FUCKING REAL AND OFFICIAL-  READ THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FUCKING THREAD!!!

Why the fuck would a legit company make a fake GN'R CD cover?

This company has designed alot of recent CDs - Motley's Red, White, and Crue, Audioslave's new CD and others. I think they have better shit to do than make a fake GNR cd cover for their site.

Do you people know how to fucking read?



Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Cjc1706 on October 28, 2006, 04:53:36 PM
more like they cant be assed reading it ....

CJ


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 28, 2006, 05:02:46 PM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.

yeah. Ain't fan-art at all. Besides. 'dave;gnfr2k' seems to be on a roll making weird comments lately.? :confused:



Like I said, why would an old gnr GHs package use the new gnr artwork? That makes no sense. And is that even offical or just some import that some company is putting out

ITS FUCKING REAL AND OFFICIAL-? READ THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FUCKING THREAD!!!

Why the fuck would a legit company make a fake GN'R CD cover?

This company has designed alot of recent CDs - Motley's Red, White, and Crue, Audioslave's new CD and others. I think they have better shit to do than make a fake GNR cd cover for their site.

Do you people know how to fucking read?



So show me any offical music release like amazon.com, hmv,, or something like that
Why would universal/geffen put this out now with CD being released by the end of the year?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 28, 2006, 05:07:40 PM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.

yeah. Ain't fan-art at all. Besides. 'dave;gnfr2k' seems to be on a roll making weird comments lately.  :confused:



Like I said, why would an old gnr GHs package use the new gnr artwork? That makes no sense. And is that even offical or just some import that some company is putting out

ITS FUCKING REAL AND OFFICIAL-  READ THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FUCKING THREAD!!!

Why the fuck would a legit company make a fake GN'R CD cover?

This company has designed alot of recent CDs - Motley's Red, White, and Crue, Audioslave's new CD and others. I think they have better shit to do than make a fake GNR cd cover for their site.

Do you people know how to fucking read?



Does not look offical because I see no interscope, geffen or universal logo anywhere on it. That is why it looks fake.
So show me where the offical logo is, or on any offical music release like amazon.com, hmv,, or something like that
Why would universal/geffen put this out now with CD being released by the end of the year?

The CD was canned BECAUSE of Chinese Democracy. Amazon had it on their site last December. No, I don't see a Geffen logo on there, but that doesn't mean its fake. Stop looking for an argument because you refuse to accept that this is real. Do you see Jarmo locking this? If it were fake, we wouldn't be allowed to discuss it.

Besides, there's red text next to the anti-piracy warning - I'm sure it says Copyright Geffen/Universal in there somewhere.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 28, 2006, 05:10:59 PM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.

yeah. Ain't fan-art at all. Besides. 'dave;gnfr2k' seems to be on a roll making weird comments lately.? :confused:



Like I said, why would an old gnr GHs package use the new gnr artwork? That makes no sense. And is that even offical or just some import that some company is putting out

ITS FUCKING REAL AND OFFICIAL-? READ THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FUCKING THREAD!!!

Why the fuck would a legit company make a fake GN'R CD cover?

This company has designed alot of recent CDs - Motley's Red, White, and Crue, Audioslave's new CD and others. I think they have better shit to do than make a fake GNR cd cover for their site.

Do you people know how to fucking read?



Does not look offical because I see no interscope, geffen or universal logo anywhere on it. That is why it looks fake.
So show me where the offical logo is, or on any offical music release like amazon.com, hmv,, or something like that
Why would universal/geffen put this out now with CD being released by the end of the year?

The CD was canned BECAUSE of Chinese Democracy. Amazon had it on their site last December. No, I don't see a Geffen logo on there, but that doesn't mean its fake. Stop looking for an argument because you refuse to accept that this is real. Do you see Jarmo locking this? If it were fake, we wouldn't be allowed to discuss it.

Besides, there's red text next to the anti-piracy warning - I'm sure it says Copyright Geffen/Universal in there somewhere.

Just because I said it looks fake does not mean it is. I also had legit questions about the artwork and why it would be released anytime soon with CD coming out. So dont get your panties in a bunch and calm down with your swearing. They are legit questions. Also I said the artwork looks fan made, which mean its sucks and its like someone made it with photoshop. I would expect much better artwork from gnr. I hope CDs artwork isnt that tacky


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: BurningHills on October 28, 2006, 05:15:46 PM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.

yeah. Ain't fan-art at all. Besides. 'dave;gnfr2k' seems to be on a roll making weird comments lately.  :confused:



Like I said, why would an old gnr GHs package use the new gnr artwork? That makes no sense. And is that even offical or just some import that some company is putting out

ITS FUCKING REAL AND OFFICIAL-  READ THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FUCKING THREAD!!!

Why the fuck would a legit company make a fake GN'R CD cover?

This company has designed alot of recent CDs - Motley's Red, White, and Crue, Audioslave's new CD and others. I think they have better shit to do than make a fake GNR cd cover for their site.

Do you people know how to fucking read?



Does not look offical because I see no interscope, geffen or universal logo anywhere on it. That is why it looks fake.
So show me where the offical logo is, or on any offical music release like amazon.com, hmv,, or something like that
Why would universal/geffen put this out now with CD being released by the end of the year?

The CD was canned BECAUSE of Chinese Democracy. Amazon had it on their site last December. No, I don't see a Geffen logo on there, but that doesn't mean its fake. Stop looking for an argument because you refuse to accept that this is real. Do you see Jarmo locking this? If it were fake, we wouldn't be allowed to discuss it.

Besides, there's red text next to the anti-piracy warning - I'm sure it says Copyright Geffen/Universal in there somewhere.

Just because I said it looks fake does not mean it is. I also had legit questions about the artwork and why it would be released anytime soon with CD coming out. So dont get your panties in a bunch and calm down with your swearing. They are legit questions. Also I said the artwork looks fan made, which mean its sucks and its like someone made it with photoshop. I would expect much better artwork from gnr. I hope CDs artwork isnt that tacky


All of your questions could have been answered if you actually bothered to read the thread.  : ok:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 28, 2006, 05:20:56 PM
it looks like fan artwork

hum when i see the fan artworks posted on this board ...

really this job is way better thant fan art.

yeah. Ain't fan-art at all. Besides. 'dave;gnfr2k' seems to be on a roll making weird comments lately.? :confused:



Like I said, why would an old gnr GHs package use the new gnr artwork? That makes no sense. And is that even offical or just some import that some company is putting out

ITS FUCKING REAL AND OFFICIAL-? READ THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FUCKING THREAD!!!

Why the fuck would a legit company make a fake GN'R CD cover?

This company has designed alot of recent CDs - Motley's Red, White, and Crue, Audioslave's new CD and others. I think they have better shit to do than make a fake GNR cd cover for their site.

Do you people know how to fucking read?



Does not look offical because I see no interscope, geffen or universal logo anywhere on it. That is why it looks fake.
So show me where the offical logo is, or on any offical music release like amazon.com, hmv,, or something like that
Why would universal/geffen put this out now with CD being released by the end of the year?

The CD was canned BECAUSE of Chinese Democracy. Amazon had it on their site last December. No, I don't see a Geffen logo on there, but that doesn't mean its fake. Stop looking for an argument because you refuse to accept that this is real. Do you see Jarmo locking this? If it were fake, we wouldn't be allowed to discuss it.

Besides, there's red text next to the anti-piracy warning - I'm sure it says Copyright Geffen/Universal in there somewhere.

Just because I said it looks fake does not mean it is. I also had legit questions about the artwork and why it would be released anytime soon with CD coming out. So dont get your panties in a bunch and calm down with your swearing. They are legit questions. Also I said the artwork looks fan made, which mean its sucks and its like someone made it with photoshop. I would expect much better artwork from gnr. I hope CDs artwork isnt that tacky


All of your questions could have been answered if you actually bothered to read the thread.? : ok:

I was too lazy  :peace:


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: guns97 on October 28, 2006, 05:31:10 PM
It comes from the ealy days of mining where someone would stake a claim and start mining, if someone came along and found the place with no-one there, they would carve a nick into the beam at the entrance to the mine. 3 nicks and they took the mine from you. Also, Scouse is the name of a hotpot-type stew cooked in liverpool. ooh, How very edumacational!

also, I wouldn't be surprised if CD did have elements of the VBO artwork (assuming the VBO project is dead)
Peace, I'm off for a weekend with my lady.

Thanks!! : ok: Never knew the actual meaning behind it...cheers (I am from the US) but really like the British culture.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on October 28, 2006, 05:33:27 PM
It comes from the ealy days of mining where someone would stake a claim and start mining, if someone came along and found the place with no-one there, they would carve a nick into the beam at the entrance to the mine. 3 nicks and they took the mine from you. Also, Scouse is the name of a hotpot-type stew cooked in liverpool. ooh, How very edumacational!

also, I wouldn't be surprised if CD did have elements of the VBO artwork (assuming the VBO project is dead)
Peace, I'm off for a weekend with my lady.

Thanks!! : ok: Never knew the actual meaning behind it...cheers (I am from the US) but really like the British culture.

I found that really funny.


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Bodhi on October 31, 2006, 01:45:32 AM
no its got to be real....leave it to the record company to mix pics of the from the 80's with the current logo...makes sense cause the record company is clueless....they had AFD pics on the greatest hits album, and the majority of the songs were without Adler on them....and god forbid they mention Dizzy Reed....whatever, the new album will be out soon so the record company can shove it


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on October 31, 2006, 07:41:41 AM
un official


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Jimmy? on October 31, 2006, 08:13:37 AM
un official

How do you know this?


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on October 31, 2006, 08:41:56 AM

i know bauda


Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: meanmachine73 on October 31, 2006, 08:46:25 AM
I mentioned in another thread, I previously worked in the CD/DVD manufacturing industry and had alot of contact with various record companies and their designers be it in-house or out-sourced.

In my mind, this is a most definitely un-official. The fact they have wanted to make it 'special/limited' but couldn?t go to printers/manufacturers such as AGI (the people that produce Digipak for example) because AGI and other such companies have an agreement with the various record companies & licensing organisations to ensure that their artists get the correct recognition, royalties etc..

There were so many times, independent record companies would ask us to produce new Oasis/Nirvana/Madonna material it was crazy, it was obvious it was bootlegged material and we would therefore not produce the CD's. There were however less reputable companies that would be happy to produce these discs and take care of all the printed packaging.

It seems the designers have worked on a cad cam cardboard product that will hold the cd's with die-cut apertures rather than plastic trays.

In essence what I am saying is, one of these independent companies have gone to this designer and asked them to design some 'fancy' packaging. The designer I am pretty sure doesn't have to be regulated by the various licensing authorities.

I may be wrong and for that apologise, it is simply my take on it.

Again, sorry to rush this, I hope it makes sense.



Title: Re: Welcome To the Jungle: The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses artwork?
Post by: slunksoma on October 31, 2006, 01:06:03 PM
I loved that BIlly Corgan film Bauda did. awesome visuals.