Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I have to vent here a bit.

What is it with people going off about how Axl leaves the stage?? Get over it!? I'm honestly sick and tired of reading posts, or reviews about how people don't like him going back stage.? Does it really matter?? :-\? Who honestly gives a rats ass if he goes back stage?? He still sings all the songs!

To be honest, I've seen them twice now, and I haven't even really noticed it.? I guess that's because I'm too busy watching Guns N Roses and not Axl Rose!? Yeah sure, I like to watch Axl, but there are other entertainers up there as well.

FUCK!

As Freddie Mercury said at Wembley circa 1986 "I need my fuckin water I don't care"

At least they don't go off and leve the stage empty, insted they have the guitarists playing awesome solos  :yes:

I know...it's not really a big deal that Axl goes off stage like that.? I guess some people always have something negative to say.? I'm looking forward to seeing ALL members of GNR on the upcoming tour.?

I feel this board has definitely helped me think of GNR as a band, not just a one-man show.? ?: ok:?

it's actaully good that he leaves the stage. AXL demands almost all the attention when he is out there. Let some people focus on the other band members for a minute or two. :peace:

you mean "employees"  :hihi:

Oh Jesus

I might have said that years ago, but this band has evolved and it's a 'band', not "Axl's lackeys".

I love this band because of each member.

There is a lot of talent on that stage, something hard to come by these days.

Watched the Use Your Illusion I & II dvd...Axl leaves the stage a lot...but he always comes back!

No, he said band members and we mean band members.  Take that shitty attitude elsehwere.

Exactly!  People act like it is something new.

This complaint was more prevelant back in 2002, and I can understand why. ?During the tour of 2002, people were still coming to grips that GNR was no longer Axl, Slash, Duff and to a certain extent, Izzy. ?Most people were able to accept the new band right away, 'cause for them (and myself) Axl was the basis for the band. ?Other's took a little more time to accept this. ?When the band is on stage, and Axl's up there singing, those slow converters could accept the new members and call what was on stage as GNR, but whenever Axl left the stage, there existed the reminder that this is a whole new band. ?Four years later, I think most people have had enough time whether they want to accept or reject the current crew as GNR.

People on this site have accepted this band as GnR. ?So have I. ?But I don't get angy whenever those still cling to the original band as GNR. ?It's their opinion, and they're welcomed to it. ?Granted, they're not going to receive a warm welcome here. ?Moreover, it's an issue that's no use in being argued. ?Since 1996, people have had a long time to accept or reject the incarnation of GNR. ?If they don't, well, it's their loss. ?Seems to me it's the hardcore fans who have accepted this band, while the casual fan have had a harder time. ?If Paul McCartney started touring under the band name "The Beatles," I'd just laugh in his face and say good luck. ?But for some reason, I see things differently with GNR. ?If the casual fan has this problem, then that's their call. ?That just means I have a better shot at getting choice tickets at concerts ?:)

Cheers,

Andrew

they are all axl employees....dont forget it....

There's more to being in a band than who's doling out the pay checks.

in this case... there is one dominant figure who commands 100% of the fans who want to hear the "gnr sound"
the band he has now are simply for utility....

In some ways any band is a vehicle for their frontman's ideas and drives.

yes...but not as much as the present situation of gnr where the only OG/frontman has written EVERYTHING
Lets face it....the bandmates he has ....as sad as you guys might realize it....ARE FILLERS

Are you saying Axl writes all the new material? Robin wrote the music to Better. We simply won't know about the rest until the CD comes out but to say Axl writes it all is just plain wrong.

Given how hard Axl performs when he's on stage... I think he's more than entitled to some "breaks" during the concert... I felt that way when he was 29-31 during the UYI tour... so I sure as hell feel that way today when he's 44.... what the hell else is he going to do there anyway... stand there slapping a gay ass tamborine on his leg or something?

Bullshit does not qualify as a source sir.

neither does jimbo wannabees       :peace:

Tell that to Steven Tyler....  however, if that's what Axl needs to perform better during the songs, so be it.

Jimbo? not Jimbo from south park? what's that got to do with anything?

toronto, 2002 ....Axl went off so often it literally (and i mean mid song here) was annoying and noticeable.

Axl goes backstage to pm Jarmo to tell him to delete the threads. :hihi:

Ha ha...I couldn't resist Jarmo. :P

You know I've got your back dude. :)

Thanks for your support too..I appreciate having a true and real friend in you. :)

"Tell that to Steven Tyler....  however, if that's what Axl needs to perform better during the songs, so be it."

...and Mick Jagger, but like you say, if that's what Axl needs to perform better during the songs, so be it...

I honestly didn't notice him going off at all.  I agree with the post saying that it's a mentality thing.  This tour especially, the rest of the band have been holding their own on the stage.

I agree, he always has left the stage, people act like he never did that before....who cares?? as long as they give a great show he can take naps between the songs for all I care

Actually this was a bit of a problem the shows I was at. People seemed to start groaning, and yelling "get back out here asshole" at him.

Then of course when he came back out, suddenly he was God again...

Acting like a bunch of schizos :hihi:

Fuck you Axl. Asshole. Get out here

Opening riff of SCOM

Yeah!!! We love you

What Axl does is very hard.  To sing the way he does while moving around and performing is etremely difficult.  If it helps to suck down some oxygen then I say  8)

I don't see no problem with going backstage. Better that than staying onstage during solos etc and doing nothing, right ?

It allows him a break between songs.

I think I'd rather see Axl run backstage for every solo than having him be a cheesy frontman and play air guitar beside Robin, Ron or Richard...now that would just suck!

   

 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Those are some poor frontmen. I pity the fans.

ahah axl air guitaring :)

I agree. I think what people forget is that the solos would be there anyways. They weren't added because Axl needs to go back stage, they would be there anyways. What would you like to see? Axl just kinda standing there?

Like, say, Robin, who wrote the first single off the new album?

SG

Amen!

Whether it's old era or new era, I kinda like when Axl goes backstage. It gives some time for the other band members to show off.

i don't know but i've seen other performers running and jumping and doing whatever it takes on stage without going backstage to recuperate for an hour and a half.
axl is the man, but don't treat him like a god

I don't think he spends an hour and a half back there, though does he? Let's not exaggerate. For what it's worth, neither Tyler or Jagger do the amount of running that Axl does. On one hand, maybe he should slow down a little, but that's how he has always done it - it wouldn't be a Guns show if he stood in one place and took it easy all night.

The thing is, he goes off during songs, not just during extended solos.  In fact, when I saw the band in Cleveland in '02 he left the stage usually once or more per song, probably to get oxygen.  It is very annoying, mainly due to the frequency of his trips backstage.

Is he still doing this?  Everyone in this thread seems to be saying that he's leaving during extended solos, but I worry that like last time he'll be on and off stage a couple dozen times per night.  Really, that was the one characteristic of the '02 show that prevented it from being a great show. 

My thinking on that is this: you have the rest of Guns N' Roses to watch so it shouldn't be a big deal. Robin Finck alone has stage presence to spare. He's really alot more entertaining to watch these days then he was back in 02. I don't think you'll notice as much this time around.

He has made trips backstage during songs since they were big enough to have a backstage. Despite the theories about him using oxygen, my guess is that he doesn't feel really comfortable being out in front with nothing to do during long guitar solos.