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Title: Florida article
Post by: GunnerOne 84 on October 24, 2006, 05:51:33 PM
http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061024/ENT12/61024040/1075


Kind of strange he was stillin the studio this month, huh?




Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: chineseroses on October 24, 2006, 05:55:12 PM
maybe deciding on the final mixes?
i hope so.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Steel_Angel on October 24, 2006, 05:55:45 PM
very nice, thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: SWINGTRADER on October 24, 2006, 05:57:38 PM
Kind of sucks  the guy can't even sell out an 8,000 seat venue .    This tour  is going to bea disaster if he doesn't start selling tickets


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: JuicySwoos on October 24, 2006, 05:59:27 PM
Kind of sucks? the guy can't even sell out an 8,000 seat venue .? ? This tour? is going to bea disaster if he doesn't start selling tickets

Scheduling 4 shows in FL doesn't help either.  If that was the only show in FL, it would be sold out.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: leatherebel on October 24, 2006, 05:59:41 PM
most of this article is not true


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Bandita on October 24, 2006, 06:01:19 PM
most of this article is not true

The part I found odd was this-



GNR was supposed to kick off the Southern leg of its ?Chinese Democracy? tour Oct. 20 in Jacksonville, but that show got rescheduled for Oct. 31. Then its Nashville stop Sunday was canceled altogether.

No one official said Nashville is cancelled.

Guns N? Roses were set to start the Southern tour in Sunrise Tuesday night. The Nashville show couldn?t be rescheduled, so they added another stop in Puerto Rico, Stoll said.

Also, as I recall these dates were all announced at the same time.  PR wasn't added as far as I remember-


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Sober_times on October 24, 2006, 06:02:53 PM
Kind of sucks the guy can't even sell out an 8,000 seat venue . This tour is going to bea disaster if he doesn't start selling tickets

The article did point out that most bands don't sell out in that area till the day of the show. I live in El Paso, Tx and can tell you thats the usual case here. Regardless of who it is. Even big name rock bands. Its just the area I live in has a lot of people that decide to go on the day of the show and walk up and buy tickets. Maybe its the same there too. ?:smoking:


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: guns_n_motley on October 24, 2006, 06:03:18 PM
putting finishing touches on the cd?? Not good... sounds like we may never get this thing :no:


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Bandita on October 24, 2006, 06:04:58 PM
putting finishing touches on the cd?? Not good... sounds like we may never get this thing :no:

I find the majority of this article to be unconfirmed BS, personally.  Aside from the fact they are playing there tonight and ticket sales were less than desirable, it just seems they wanted to fill space with useless and speculative info.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: kyrie on October 24, 2006, 06:05:13 PM
Kind of sucks  the guy can't even sell out an 8,000 seat venue .    This tour  is going to bea disaster if he doesn't start selling tickets

Notice rest of Florida is selling well, it's only that show that's selling bad.

Then notice it's a different promoter doing that show. Hmm. Coincidence?

Plus, they are overbooked down there.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Hoosier on October 24, 2006, 06:05:35 PM
this is what happens when you go on tour with no new material and very little promotion. if they had those, they'd sell out probaly every arena show


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Bandita on October 24, 2006, 06:10:09 PM
this is what happens when you go on tour with no new material and very little promotion. if they had those, they'd sell out probaly every arena show

I guess I must have dreamed all the new songs they played the 4 times I saw them this year-

Are you expecting them to play the entire new album?

And I agree-this many shows in FL was probably not necessary.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Hoosier on October 24, 2006, 06:12:49 PM
this is what happens when you go on tour with no new material and very little promotion. if they had those, they'd sell out probaly every arena show

I guess I must have dreamed all the new songs they played the 4 times I saw them this year-

Are you expecting them to play the entire new album?

And I agree-this many shows in FL was probably not necessary.

playing new songs at a concert isnt exposure. you have to get people there in the 1st place for them to hear. they dont have a video, or radio single or anything like that. you cant have a world tour supported by the online fans.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: JuicySwoos on October 24, 2006, 06:16:30 PM
Kind of sucks? the guy can't even sell out an 8,000 seat venue .? ? This tour? is going to bea disaster if he doesn't start selling tickets

Notice rest of Florida is selling well, it's only that show that's selling bad.

Then notice it's a different promoter doing that show. Hmm. Coincidence?

Plus, they are overbooked down there.

I wonder what exactly "selling well" is. Sunrise is definately sold/selling well. ?Tampa and Jacksonville there are still a shit ton of good tickets left. What constitutes selling well?


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: SWINGTRADER on October 24, 2006, 06:20:30 PM
Here's the link  to the radio station K-rock  that the article  refers to.   



http://www.96krock.com/index.php?page=33   it has live streaming


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on October 24, 2006, 06:26:06 PM
Of all the FL shows, Estero is the smallest market. ( Ft. Myers/Naples area).  I was surprised originally to hear they were playing there. ( Wondered where the hell Estero was) The retirees way outnumber normal people  :hihi:

Jax, Tampa & Miami are more cosmopolitan, more younger people. .


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: TWAT RULES on October 24, 2006, 06:26:23 PM
the ticket prices are WAY too high.....most casual fans wouldn't even consider paying 75-90 bucks per ticket for a band that has released no new music in over a decade.....only the most hardcore of fans will show up.....i got 4 tickets for the worcester show at a mind boggling 344 bucks and i'm gonna end up eating the cost for at least 1 of them cause none of my friends want to pay that much....i have no problem paying that much because axl is the best of all time, but to anyone who is not a hardcore fan, that cost is ridiculous.....none of the shows except MSG will sell out


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: GunsN'Gravy on October 24, 2006, 06:29:46 PM
It would be so cool if He starts the tour with another no-show. I would LOL.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: jarmo on October 24, 2006, 06:32:08 PM
It would be so cool if He starts the tour with another no-show. I would LOL.

You must be a pretty sad person then....  ::)



/jarmo


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: gandra on October 24, 2006, 06:36:45 PM
some of you guys don't know t read???
article said tonight show is almost soldout and estero 60%,and what is bad with it?


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on October 24, 2006, 06:36:55 PM
the ticket prices are WAY too high.....most casual fans wouldn't even consider paying 75-90 bucks per ticket for a band that has released no new music in over a decade.....only the most hardcore of fans will show up.....i got 4 tickets for the worcester show at a mind boggling 344 bucks and i'm gonna end up eating the cost for at least 1 of them cause none of my friends want to pay that much....i have no problem paying that much because axl is the best of all time, but to anyone who is not a hardcore fan, that cost is ridiculous.....none of the shows except MSG will sell out


No offense, but you're incorrect. ?Halifax, Nova Scotia is sold-out. ?Before you laugh, remember, it's a 10,100 capacity arena. ?That's pretty fuckin cool.

Maybe it's a crazy theory, but in my eyes, Canadians are a bit more in tune with Europe than we Americans are. ?With over 700,000 folks in Europe seeing them kick ass this year, maybe word of mouth has gotten around to the Canadians a little bit ahead of the average American who gets his or her rock news from the local yokel dj. ?Just a thought.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on October 24, 2006, 06:37:05 PM
The shows will be packed at showtime. ?Think of this--in 2002, many of the larger markets (5 times larger than Naples), had just 6000 people at the arena on the night of the show (after walk-up sales). ?If that guy, has sold about 5000 tickets, he can expect the show to be near a sellout on the night of the show. ?Heck, there are many people who will decide to high tail it over after they kick ass in Miami tonight. ?The sales, besides a few shows in smaller markets, have been WAY better than in 2002, and should continue to get better as this train gains momemtum :yes:


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: JuicySwoos on October 24, 2006, 06:41:22 PM
The shows will be packed at showtime. ?Think of this--in 2002, many of the larger markets (5 times larger than Naples), had just 6000 people at the arena on the night of the show (after walk-up sales). ?If that guy, has sold about 5000 tickets, he can expect the show to be near a sellout on the night of the show. ?Heck, there are many people who will decide to high tail it over after they kick ass in Miami tonight. ?The sales, besides a few shows in smaller markets, have been WAY better than in 2002, and should continue to get better as this train gains momemtum :yes:

Chicago and the LA shows should sell out as well.  Interesting theory on the walk up sales. I like to compare how similar type shows by different acts are selling in the same timeframe.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: GNRSANDMAN on October 24, 2006, 06:42:43 PM
this is what happens when you go on tour with no new material and very little promotion. if they had those, they'd sell out probaly every arena show

Ummmm that's called the 2002 tour.

This one will be different....right?     :confused:


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: axlrosegnr on October 24, 2006, 06:43:08 PM
Not every show has to sell out in order for this to be a sucessful tour....too many of you already wrote the whole thing off after they didn't sell out every date in a day. If every show is at least 3/4ths full, then it is still higly sucessful, some won't be that full, and others will be sold out, in the end I'd say that the tour is ALREADY sucessful.....providing he shows up at every show...but thats another argument altogether. (but he will show up, and the tour will go great!)


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: tim_m on October 24, 2006, 06:47:57 PM
It would be so cool if He starts the tour with another no-show. I would LOL.

Please consider playing in traffic  : ok:


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: kyrie on October 24, 2006, 06:51:18 PM
Kind of sucks  the guy can't even sell out an 8,000 seat venue .    This tour  is going to bea disaster if he doesn't start selling tickets

Notice rest of Florida is selling well, it's only that show that's selling bad.

Then notice it's a different promoter doing that show. Hmm. Coincidence?

Plus, they are overbooked down there.

I wonder what exactly "selling well" is. Sunrise is definately sold/selling well.  Tampa and Jacksonville there are still a shit ton of good tickets left. What constitutes selling well?

Jacksonville has floors year but I think the stands are filling up ok, at least from ticket master... keep in mind a good show at the first Forida gig will encourage people to travel a bit for a second show or at least suggest to friends that they should pick up tickets.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: SWINGTRADER on October 24, 2006, 06:52:43 PM
Everything is going well  .  I thought it was tonight's show  that was 60% sold. I misread the article   . Tonight's show will be sold out.


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Bandita on October 24, 2006, 06:59:10 PM
this is what happens when you go on tour with no new material and very little promotion. if they had those, they'd sell out probaly every arena show

Ummmm that's called the 2002 tour.

This one will be different....right?? ? ?:confused:

My count says 23 shows completed in 2002

44 completed for 2006 with tonight to be the 45th
(I counted fast so if my figures are off please forgive me)

My point is:

That alone should tell people something about the difference.

I really don't understand all the negativity. ?I THOUGHT we were all fans of this band and want them to succeed or at least get to enjoy them live.


Everyone going tonight and to the next few FL dates have a great time instead of sitting on here complaining. Really, it's just not worth the effort! :peace:


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on October 24, 2006, 07:31:03 PM
^^^ Amen Bandita.  Some folks just like stirring up controversy.  No problem.  12 days till Jersey!!!!!!!!!!   :yes:


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: russtcb on October 25, 2006, 07:04:12 AM
this is what happens when you go on tour with no new material and very little promotion. if they had those, they'd sell out probaly every arena show

Ummmm that's called the 2002 tour.

This one will be different....right?     :confused:

My count says 23 shows completed in 2002

44 completed for 2006 with tonight to be the 45th
(I counted fast so if my figures are off please forgive me)

My point is:

That alone should tell people something about the difference.

I really don't understand all the negativity.  I THOUGHT we were all fans of this band and want them to succeed or at least get to enjoy them live.


Everyone going tonight and to the next few FL dates have a great time instead of sitting on here complaining. Really, it's just not worth the effort! :peace:


I'll 2nd that. For me personally, I'm just beside myself that I'll get to see GNR again in one month from today.

Not sure why alot of other people are looking for a reason to complain or be unhappy, but I'm certainly not gonna do that!


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: cyllan on October 25, 2006, 07:21:41 AM
Kind of sucks? the guy can't even sell out an 8,000 seat venue .? ? This tour? is going to bea disaster if he doesn't start selling tickets

Don't know much about the US/Canadian markets but I can't imagine that any band sells everything, crappy seats included, at all, or even most, venues on a tour.? Besides which, I think you're being a little pessimistic to predict a disaster after only one night.

However, if you're not happy with the situation, I guess they could always return to Europe where we know how to treat rock royalty.?? :hihi:


Title: Re: Florida article
Post by: russtcb on October 25, 2006, 10:52:52 AM
Everything is going well? .? I thought it was tonight's show? that was 60% sold. I misread the article? ?. Tonight's show will be sold out.

Yeah I re-read that a couple times too. Still not sure I read it quite right.