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Title: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: CD on October 23, 2006, 03:51:05 PM
Though this might be interesting to read again, during this small lull in news...plus some new fans may have missed it.......

I'm hoping for a least a double album especially as back in 1999 axl said:

 " The record will be about, anywhere from 16 to 18 songs, but we recorded at least two albums' worth of material that is solidly recorded".

http://www.gnr.org.uk/news/news11.htm

enjoy!


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: GNRBABY on October 23, 2006, 03:53:51 PM
Oh, god I can't read this again....It got me so excited back then and then it never happened...


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: CD on October 23, 2006, 03:56:22 PM
it's just to show how far things have moved forward since then! Also they must be sitting on tons of material....


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Lucky on October 23, 2006, 03:57:34 PM
Quote
Rose: We've been working on, I don't know, 70 songs.


and all they come up with for their (rumored) first single is "Better" :P


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: evergreen_layne on October 23, 2006, 04:08:26 PM
Man I just thought Robin took a year break from GNR to play the NIN tour but Axl makes it sound like he was totally out of the band.  So glad he got him back.  (Now go get Buckethead  :hihi:).  Also looks like Paul Tobias will probably make an appearance on CD.   


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: CD on October 23, 2006, 04:11:01 PM
Ah i like it.... but still a little supprised it's poss single....sure we will know soon.....or my phone bill will cripple me...poor costly dial up :-[


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Lucky on October 23, 2006, 04:11:19 PM
this interview makes one thing clear.

CITR Demo that leaked is from 2000.
definitely from 2000.
since brian may in november only confirmed to play for Axl.
so the brian may parts must have been done either in december 99, or 2000.




Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Saul on October 23, 2006, 04:14:09 PM
This sounds familiar .. almost like I read something like this before RIR4?! heh


Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well. Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...

Loder: He just wanted to get back to Nine Inch Nails, right?

Rose: [continuing] ... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: polluxlm on October 23, 2006, 04:15:12 PM
That's Axl for ya. If someone leaves, it's always a good thing :smoking:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: evergreen_layne on October 23, 2006, 04:18:03 PM
This sounds familiar .. almost like I read something like this before RIR4?! heh


Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well. Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...

Loder: He just wanted to get back to Nine Inch Nails, right?

Rose: [continuing] ... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.

He talks a little shit about Robin but doesn't completely burn the bridge and Robin ends up back in the band.  Axl discussed Buckethead's departure the same way saying him leaving was actually gonna be "helpful to the recording process" implying that Buckethead was hard to work with and was slowing things down.  I'm sure both sides were at fault and I hope the bridge between Axl and Buckethead is still somewhat intact.   :peace:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: CD on October 23, 2006, 04:19:16 PM
camp seems more stable now plus the songs which are released will be far newer than the press make out....the 2000 album must have been shelved.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: ForeverGNR on October 23, 2006, 04:20:40 PM
Never read it before. thanks man  :beer:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: SLCPUNK on October 23, 2006, 04:27:14 PM
So much has changed since then, I could not imagine speculating what may happen based on any of that.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: DunkinDave on October 23, 2006, 04:33:50 PM
HTGTH has the article archived as well:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Rockin' Rose on October 23, 2006, 05:00:31 PM
Man I just thought Robin took a year break from GNR to play the NIN tour but Axl makes it sound like he was totally out of the band.  So glad he got him back.  (Now go get Buckethead  :hihi:).  Also looks like Paul Tobias will probably make an appearance on CD.   

Haven't read this for a long time, nice read.

Axl seems to be one of those persons who can be your best friend if you are honest and loyal to him, stab him in the back and you'll never hear from him again, well atleast for few years that is.

I'm also glad he got Robin back, and Bumblefoot..

Bucket has great sense of melody and Madagascar won't be the same live anymore (I really don't know what Richard is trying to do) but overall his input is yet to be heard as Better turned out to be a Robin Finck song.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: nesquick on October 23, 2006, 05:08:13 PM
This sounds familiar .. almost like I read something like this before RIR4?! heh


Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well. Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...

Loder: He just wanted to get back to Nine Inch Nails, right?

Rose: [continuing] ... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.

He talks a little shit about Robin but doesn't completely burn the bridge and Robin ends up back in the band.? Axl discussed Buckethead's departure the same way saying him leaving was actually gonna be "helpful to the recording process" implying that Buckethead was hard to work with and was slowing things down.? I'm sure both sides were at fault and I hope the bridge between Axl and Buckethead is still somewhat intact.? ?:peace:

yeah riiiiight... I mean...recall Chris Verna aswell! I hope the bridge between them is still "intact". lol.
You people really need to turn the page. BH is gone. Kapout. Over. it's over. Forever. He is somewhere between the moon and saturn, very far away from the band, and will never ever be related to GN'R again. ne-ver, e-ver. The band works far better now.
Today, there is Richard, there is Robin, they are a fantastic duet, These 2 guys are the Present and probably also the future of Guns N' Roses on guitars. It's fine like that. Can you get used to it for once?? : ok:
People always want to believe the worst, there is no need to believe BH will be back, there is no need to be so negative, 2002 was enough, be positive/ the band works fine now, and that's what matters. Let the negativity appart :peace:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: PJ on October 23, 2006, 05:19:05 PM
This sounds familiar .. almost like I read something like this before RIR4?! heh


Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well. Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...

Loder: He just wanted to get back to Nine Inch Nails, right?

Rose: [continuing] ... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.

He talks a little shit about Robin but doesn't completely burn the bridge and Robin ends up back in the band.? Axl discussed Buckethead's departure the same way saying him leaving was actually gonna be "helpful to the recording process" implying that Buckethead was hard to work with and was slowing things down.? I'm sure both sides were at fault and I hope the bridge between Axl and Buckethead is still somewhat intact.? ?:peace:

yeah riiiiight... I mean...recall Chris Verna aswell! I hope the bridge between them is still "intact". lol.
You people really need to turn the page. BH is gone. Kapout. Over. it's over. Forever. He is somewhere between the moon and saturn, very far away from the band, and will never ever be related to GN'R again. ne-ver, e-ver. Can you get used to it for once?? : ok:
dude what you are crazy BH and Cris VRENNA had very very very very different relations inside GNR..
Chris never joined GNR.. did a try out when duff was even there
BH was THE BEST THING that ever happened to GNR musically... maybe he is gone in physical way, but i dont think he will be gone when you hear CD.. and in the end that is what it matters, so he is related to GNR :stickitupyourass:

and for the person who said that BH was slowing down the recording proccess, dude are you crazy???
BH realases at least 4 CD per year! thats why left.. he DIDNT wanna spent 3 years more doing nothing... BH is not hard to work with.. the only people that have ever said that is axl and tommy.. none of the dozens persons that have been involved in other projects have ever said anything like that


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Rockin' Rose on October 23, 2006, 05:23:29 PM
This sounds familiar .. almost like I read something like this before RIR4?! heh


Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well. Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...

Loder: He just wanted to get back to Nine Inch Nails, right?

Rose: [continuing] ... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.

He talks a little shit about Robin but doesn't completely burn the bridge and Robin ends up back in the band.  Axl discussed Buckethead's departure the same way saying him leaving was actually gonna be "helpful to the recording process" implying that Buckethead was hard to work with and was slowing things down.  I'm sure both sides were at fault and I hope the bridge between Axl and Buckethead is still somewhat intact.   :peace:

yeah riiiiight... I mean...recall Chris Verna aswell! I hope the bridge between them is still "intact". lol.
You people really need to turn the page. BH is gone. Kapout. Over. it's over. Forever. He is somewhere between the moon and saturn, very far away from the band, and will never ever be related to GN'R again. ne-ver, e-ver. Can you get used to it for once?  : ok:
dude what you are crazy BH and Cris VRENNA had very very very very different relations inside GNR..
Chris never joined GNR.. did a try out when duff was even there
BH was THE BEST THING that ever happened to GNR musically... maybe he is gone in physical way, but i dont think he will be gone when you hear CD.. and in the end that is what it matters, so he is related to GNR :stickitupyourass:

and for the person who said that BH was slowing down the recording proccess, dude are you crazy???
BH realases at least 4 CD per year! thats why left.. he DIDNT wanna spent 3 years more doing nothing... BH is not hard to work with.. the only people that have ever said that is axl and tommy.. none of the dozens persons that have been involved in other projects have ever said anything like that

Axl and Tommy ain't the only ones, Ozzy also had trouble with him but that was because of those masks if I remember correctly


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Saboteur Cyb. Punk on October 23, 2006, 05:25:36 PM
This sounds familiar .. almost like I read something like this before RIR4?! heh


Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well. Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...

Loder: He just wanted to get back to Nine Inch Nails, right?

Rose: [continuing] ... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.

He talks a little shit about Robin but doesn't completely burn the bridge and Robin ends up back in the band.? Axl discussed Buckethead's departure the same way saying him leaving was actually gonna be "helpful to the recording process" implying that Buckethead was hard to work with and was slowing things down.? I'm sure both sides were at fault and I hope the bridge between Axl and Buckethead is still somewhat intact.? ?:peace:

yeah riiiiight... I mean...recall Chris Verna aswell! I hope the bridge between them is still "intact". lol.
You people really need to turn the page. BH is gone. Kapout. Over. it's over. Forever. He is somewhere between the moon and saturn, very far away from the band, and will never ever be related to GN'R again. ne-ver, e-ver. The band works far better now.
Today, there is Richard, there is Robin, they are a fantastic duet, These 2 guys are the Present and probably also the future of Guns N' Roses on guitars. It's fine like that. Can you get used to it for once?? : ok:
People always want to believe the worst, there is no need to believe BH will be back, there is no need to be so negative, 2002 was enough, be positive/ the band works fine now, and that's what matters. Let the negativity appart :peace:

Buckethead is a legend and who is Fortus ??? :hihi:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: nesquick on October 23, 2006, 05:26:14 PM
Robin also had troubles with him. Anyway, who cares? There are far more exiting things coming (Tour, album etc...) than losing time speaking about a guy with a bucket on his head who has not been related to GN'R anymore since December 5 2002. It's been a long time now. Turn the page. Really.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Allman on October 23, 2006, 05:44:23 PM
Robin also had troubles with him. Anyway, who cares? There are far more exiting things coming (Tour, album etc...) than losing time speaking about a guy with a bucket on his head who has not been related to GN'R anymore since December 5 2002. It's been a long time now. Turn the page. Really.

Until his parts turn up on CD...
Then it's turn the page indeed, back to BH that is.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: SWINGTRADER on October 23, 2006, 05:54:58 PM
By the way   did anyone know  that Kurt Loder was gay??    Sebastian bach outed him in an interview  a few days ago.    I never knew he was gay .


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Rockin' Rose on October 23, 2006, 05:57:23 PM
By the way   did anyone know  that Kurt Loder was gay??    Sebastian bach outed him in an interview  a few days ago.    I never knew he was gay .

So?

Who cares if someone is gay or not, it's their choise.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: mahimahi23 on October 23, 2006, 06:01:24 PM
So?

Who cares if someone is gay or not, it's their choise.

He just said he didnt know he was gay, calm down. I didnt know that either.

And this is the first time I have read that article and I didnt realise "Its Alright" is a Black Sabbath song, thats really cool.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: SWINGTRADER on October 23, 2006, 06:02:36 PM
By the way? ?did anyone know? that Kurt Loder was gay??? ? Sebastian bach outed him in an interview? a few days ago.? ? I never knew he was gay .

So?

Who cares if someone is gay or not, it's their choise.


This message board is so fuckin sensitive . ?I never said there was something wrong with it ?I was just asking if anybody else knew. ?I think it is fucked up for Baz ?to out him like that. ? It's Kurt's choice ?whether ?he wants people to know he's gay or not. ?


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Saboteur Cyb. Punk on October 23, 2006, 06:04:35 PM
[And this is the first time I have read that article and I didnt realise "Its Alright" is a Black Sabbath song, thats really cool.

With Bill Ward on vocal :peace:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Rockin' Rose on October 23, 2006, 06:06:18 PM
So?

Who cares if someone is gay or not, it's their choise.

He just said he didnt know he was gay, calm down. I didnt know that either.

And this is the first time I have read that article and I didnt realise "Its Alright" is a Black Sabbath song, thats really cool.

I'm not upset or anything but I just don't think that info is in anyway relevant

By the way   did anyone know  that Kurt Loder was gay??    Sebastian bach outed him in an interview  a few days ago.    I never knew he was gay .

So?

Who cares if someone is gay or not, it's their choise.


This message board is so fuckin sensitive .  I never said there was something wrong with it  I was just asking if anybody else knew.  I think it is fucked up for Baz  to out him like that.   It's Kurt's choice  whether  he wants people to know he's gay or not. 

Sorry if I hurted your feelings


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Saul on October 23, 2006, 06:29:44 PM
didnt mean to turn this into a pro/con Buckethead thread people .. just saying what axl said about both guitarists (BH & Robin) was similar , is all.

Jesus H Christ.

Anyways , Richard Fortus himself has said he hopes AND wishes to play with Buckethead in some way again in the future , so I guess he isnt all bad. lol!

Personally , I hope he never joins GNR again , GNR fans for the most part (not all of you , just the close minded ones *coff nesquick *coff*) do NOT deserve a talent such as Bucket in the band.  : ok:

Anyways , peace guys. GNR rules no matter who's on the guitars.  :peace:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: the dirt on October 23, 2006, 06:34:41 PM
So do GNR fans deserve Bumblehead more than they deserve Buckethead?


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: evergreen_layne on October 23, 2006, 06:38:01 PM
 
Robin also had troubles with him. Anyway, who cares? There are far more exiting things coming (Tour, album etc...) than losing time speaking about a guy with a bucket on his head who has not been related to GN'R anymore since December 5 2002. It's been a long time now. Turn the page. Really.


didnt mean to turn this into a pro/con Buckethead thread people .. just saying what axl said about both guitarists (BH & Robin) was similar , is all.

Jesus H Christ.

Anyways , Richard Fortus himself has said he hopes AND wishes to play with Buckethead in some way again in the future , so I guess he isnt all bad. lol!

Personally , I hope he never joins GNR again , GNR fans for the most part (not all of you , just the close minded ones *coff nesquick *coff*) do NOT deserve a talent such as Bucket in the band.  : ok:

Anyways , peace guys. GNR rules no matter who's on the guitars.  :peace:

I think it makes a huge difference who's on the guitars.  This band wouldn be totally different without Finck.  He alone is irreplacable out of the new line-up.  Also I've finding it hard to get over Fortus playing on NSync's album(s).  I know people have to do what they have to do to survive, but its still kinda lame.  And I, as a long time GNR fan, do deserve Buckethead in the band.  The emotion in his music helps me out so much and I realize what a talent he is.  And to those thinking we're done talking about Buckethead just wait til the album comes out.  We haven't even started....... :yes:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Saul on October 23, 2006, 06:40:16 PM
So do GNR fans deserve Bumblehead more than they deserve Buckethead?

lets see how fans continue to treat him. Ron , not unlike Bucket is a guy who LOVES his fans .. gnr fans for the most part seem to love to bash GNR members who actually give back to them.

Ron , also like Bucket has a bit of a "quirky" side to him .. GNR fans for the most part seem to only see an image and not hear music.

That is NOT a blanket statement and does NOT mean every fan. But alot of what I see and read on the boards seem to back that statement up.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Saul on October 23, 2006, 06:42:56 PM
And I, as a long time GNR fan, do deserve Buckethead in the band.  The emotion in his music helps me out so much and I realize what a talent he is.  And to those thinking we're done talking about Buckethead just wait til the album comes out.  We haven't even started....... :yes:


Obviously you are one of those who deserved a talent like him in your fav band because you saw past a mask and actually HEARD what his MUSIC sounded like. Kudo's to you.  : ok:   :peace:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 23, 2006, 06:44:12 PM
This interview is re-posted like every week.  :o


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: mahimahi23 on October 23, 2006, 06:46:20 PM
[And this is the first time I have read that article and I didnt realise "Its Alright" is a Black Sabbath song, thats really cool.

With Bill Ward on vocal :peace:

Really?? Thats cool, anyone know what Sabbath album this song is on?


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: AdZ on October 23, 2006, 07:15:15 PM
Technical Ecstasy, Axl mentions it was the album that got him into sabbath on the trunk interview.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: MikeD on October 23, 2006, 07:24:19 PM
Quick question about "It's All Right." I always thought that was played live at some point during the Illusion tour. Axl makes it sound like he recorded it on his own long after the tour was over and while he was working with the new (at the time) guys.
Anyone know the answer.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: charlesfosterkane on October 23, 2006, 07:26:43 PM
Quick question about "It's All Right." I always thought that was played live at some point during the Illusion tour. Axl makes it sound like he recorded it on his own long after the tour was over and while he was working with the new (at the time) guys.
Anyone know the answer.
i think he says in that interview that it was the intro to november rain. it was played live, yes.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: MikeD on October 23, 2006, 08:05:37 PM
Not sure, I think he's insinuating that it wasn't played live but made a nice intro (but I"m still not sure). Loder asks if that's going to be on the new album, so it makes me wonder whether it was ever played before and if it's possibly a new cover for the new band (since the old band was known to throw a few covers on some albums).


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: AdZ on October 23, 2006, 09:25:57 PM
"05.16.92 - Slane Castle, Slane, Ireland
opening acts: Soundgarden, Faith No More
set: Nightrain, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, Bad Obsession, Don't Cry, Double Talkin' Jive, Civil War, Wild Horses [Intro] / Patience, Attitude, Welcome To The Jungle, It's Alright [Intro] / November Rain, You Could Be Mine, Drum Solo, Guitar Solo, Godfather Theme, One [Intro] / Sweet Child O' Mine, Only Women Bleed [Intro] / Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Paradise City

05.23.92 - Donauinsel Stadium, Vienna, Austria
opening acts: Soundgarden, Faith No More
set: It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, Attitude, You Could Be Mine, Wild Horses [Intro] / Patience, Double Talkin' Jive, Civil War, It's Alright [Intro] / November Rain, Bad Obsession, Drum Solo, Guitar Solo, Godfather Theme, Sail Away Sweet Sister / Bad Time [Intro], Sweet Child O' Mine, Welcome To The Jungle, Only Women Bleed [Intro] / Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Don't Cry, Mother [Intro] / Paradise City

 :P


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: 25 on October 23, 2006, 09:32:53 PM


Personally , I hope he never joins GNR again , GNR fans for the most part (not all of you , just the close minded ones *coff nesquick *coff*) do NOT deserve a talent such as Bucket in the band.  : ok:


If I were to hope anything, it would be that he re-joins asap. The music > the fans.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: ppbebe on October 23, 2006, 09:41:33 PM
Quote
The music > the fans.

||

me! > other fans :yes:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: 25 on October 23, 2006, 09:44:50 PM

me! > other fans :yes:
Are we talking weight, circumference, diameter or mass?  :P


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: MikeD on October 23, 2006, 10:14:57 PM
"05.16.92 - Slane Castle, Slane, Ireland
opening acts: Soundgarden, Faith No More
set: Nightrain, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, Bad Obsession, Don't Cry, Double Talkin' Jive, Civil War, Wild Horses [Intro] / Patience, Attitude, Welcome To The Jungle, It's Alright [Intro] / November Rain, You Could Be Mine, Drum Solo, Guitar Solo, Godfather Theme, One [Intro] / Sweet Child O' Mine, Only Women Bleed [Intro] / Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Paradise City

05.23.92 - Donauinsel Stadium, Vienna, Austria
opening acts: Soundgarden, Faith No More
set: It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, Attitude, You Could Be Mine, Wild Horses [Intro] / Patience, Double Talkin' Jive, Civil War, It's Alright [Intro] / November Rain, Bad Obsession, Drum Solo, Guitar Solo, Godfather Theme, Sail Away Sweet Sister / Bad Time [Intro], Sweet Child O' Mine, Welcome To The Jungle, Only Women Bleed [Intro] / Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Don't Cry, Mother [Intro] / Paradise City

 :P





Cool, thanks, was curious about that.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: The Legend on October 23, 2006, 10:31:41 PM
Though this might be interesting to read again, during this small lull in news...plus some new fans may have missed it.......

I'm hoping for a least a double album especially as back in 1999 axl said:

 " The record will be about, anywhere from 16 to 18 songs, but we recorded at least two albums' worth of material that is solidly recorded".

http://www.gnr.org.uk/news/news11.htm

enjoy!

With the people he had at that time. It's been 7 years since that interview, counting changes in music, not to mention a different drummer now, several guitarists, and an overall different approach (see 2002), I would think that most likely they took the lyrics to those songs, and the idea and started from scratch with alot of them.

I highly doubt we're gonna hear 7 year old songs, with guitar tracks from Paul Huge and possibly Dave Navarro, and drum lines from Josh Freese.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: mahimahi23 on October 24, 2006, 12:17:30 AM
Technical Ecstasy, Axl mentions it was the album that got him into sabbath on the trunk interview.

Thanks


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: jameslofton29 on October 24, 2006, 12:33:25 AM
There are far more exiting things coming  than losing time speaking about a guy with a bucket on his head
If thats true, then why are you ALWAYS talking about him at every forum you go to? In EVERY fucking post no matter what the topic of the thread is. Take your own fucking advice for once! Please, for the love of God take your own advice. Everyone is sick of hearing it. We know already, you've told us a million times: The whole universe sucks while Fortus rules.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: bigbri on October 24, 2006, 12:56:42 AM
^^Owned^^  ;D Defenders of the Bucket unite.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: grog mug on October 24, 2006, 01:24:20 AM
Hey YESTERDAY...find a better guitarist then Buckethead then u can talk.  Until then shutup, because Buckethead remains one of the best if not THE best guitarist out there.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: PJ on October 24, 2006, 08:06:29 PM
There are far more exiting things coming? than losing time speaking about a guy with a bucket on his head
If thats true, then why are you ALWAYS talking about him at every forum you go to? In EVERY fucking post no matter what the topic of the thread is. Take your own fucking advice for once! Please, for the love of God take your own advice. Everyone is sick of hearing it. We know already, you've told us a million times: The whole universe sucks while Fortus rules.
super ditto
he is telling us that we should forget BH
when the one who speaks about him in every post is him...


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: uzisuicide2002 on October 24, 2006, 09:41:32 PM
Does any one have the audio or video from this? and if so can you put it up? Thanks


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: mrbrownstone8797 on October 24, 2006, 09:47:33 PM
I had never read this. Shows another perspective of what happened with Slash, that I didn't know about. Watching Behind the Music lays it all on Axl, but this interview shows that Slash may have been pretty arrogant in his ways too.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: GNFNR_UK on October 24, 2006, 09:54:01 PM
I'm with the BH fans on this, I could care less if he wears a bucket on his head, the stuff we heard him do with Guns is amazing, spine tingling stuff and as cool a guy as Bumblefoot seems to be he can't do that TWAT solo justice!
Same goes for Richard on Maddy. Don't get me wrong, obviously they're both great players and I love the shit they play but BH has a style that is very hard to replicate. He took TWAT to another level. I just hope for the love of GOD his parts remain on CD!!!


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: uzisuicide2002 on October 24, 2006, 09:55:07 PM
Well to all them people that think Axl is why slash and them are gone, here you go.

Rose: That was their choice to leave. Everybody that's gone did it by choice. Matt was fired, but Matt came in attempting to get fired and told many people so that night. So it's kind of like everybody left by choice. They really didn't think I was going to figure out a way to make a record, [and they] didn't want to help really make a record. Everybody kind of wanted what they wanted individually rather than what's in the best interest of the whole.

And everyone thinks it was Axl...


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: Slipdisc on October 24, 2006, 10:08:42 PM
as cool a guy as Bumblefoot seems to be he can't do that TWAT solo justice!

I've been both a Buckethead-fan as a Bumblefoot-fan since the early nineties. There's nothing Buckethead could throw at Ron, Ron couldn't play. I think it's very unfair to qualify him like that with TWAT being played as little as it was and knowing how assbackward Ron was added to the band. Let's evaluate it again once they actually start playing the song with Ron having the luxury of having as much time to get used to this band as Buckethead had.

-PEACE-

Ps. As far as Nesquick goes...

hire a guy like BH?? For me, that was an insult to the GN'R legacy. What a f** joke it was. It was like an immense mongol casting.

Last time I saw you talking like that about Buckethead, you were sweating like a pedophile in mother care. Please understand that the real joke here are you, for disrespecting people?s intelligence; by assuming that the people on this board are still in for some more irrelevant, hate (=?mongol casting? = finally we get to see your true motives) ignorance driven, clueless Buckethead bashing by you. Especially, since they witnessed the last time you pulled a thread off topic, by introducing Buckethead. The same guy you used as an excuse (=?he doesn?t interest me, I don?t want to waste time discussing him?) only a couple of days ago, to flee "for cryin' out loud" from a ?discussion? you initiated and carried (=euphemism of the year) with an equal amount of ignorance and absence of argumentation.

Notice the date on that baby....? ::) :rofl:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: muresan on October 24, 2006, 10:31:46 PM
The reason Bumblefoot seems to have trouble with the TWAT solo, in my humble opinion, is the simple lack of a killswitch on his guitar.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: The Prez on October 25, 2006, 06:41:50 AM
Quote
I hope the bridge between Axl and Buckethead is still somewhat intact.? ?:peace:

My endless hope will be that the bridge between Axl and SLASH is still somewhat intact , or at least will be built again someday  ;)


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: slunksoma on October 25, 2006, 07:13:10 AM
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I hope the bridge between Axl and Buckethead is still somewhat intact.? ?:peace:

My endless hope will be that the bridge between Axl and SLASH is still somewhat intact , or at least will be built again someday? ;)
Im about to put a target on my back here I reckon....but does anyone else not associate Slash with GnR anymore?


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: markreed on October 25, 2006, 10:16:44 AM
I don't get this whole Buckethead nostalgia thread. I saw the band with Bucket, and thought he was brilliant, but as we all know, Axl wouldn't got someone in who didn't have the chops : Bumble's great too, and he's got a hat just like me. 

People don't reminisce about Paul Tobias, or Josh Freese for example, even though the two are probably the players on the leaked demos. Buckethead WAS, and great he was in the band. But he's not in the band anymore, lets look to the future.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 25, 2006, 08:28:53 PM
I don't get this whole Buckethead nostalgia thread. I saw the band with Bucket, and thought he was brilliant, but as we all know, Axl wouldn't got someone in who didn't have the chops : Bumble's great too, and he's got a hat just like me. 

People don't reminisce about Paul Tobias, or Josh Freese for example, even though the two are probably the players on the leaked demos. Buckethead WAS, and great he was in the band. But he's not in the band anymore, lets look to the future.

Chinese Democracy is a blend of the lyrical wit of Axl Rose and the musical genius of Buckethead. I didn't believe this until I heard the leaks. There was a deep, deep chemistry there.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: the dirt on October 25, 2006, 08:41:01 PM
Well to all them people that think Axl is why slash and them are gone, here you go.

Rose: That was their choice to leave. Everybody that's gone did it by choice. Matt was fired, but Matt came in attempting to get fired and told many people so that night. So it's kind of like everybody left by choice. They really didn't think I was going to figure out a way to make a record, [and they] didn't want to help really make a record. Everybody kind of wanted what they wanted individually rather than what's in the best interest of the whole.

And everyone thinks it was Axl...

You are overlooking the fact that sometimes a person can make it next to impossible to continue a partnership. Enough so that the other will throw their hands up in the air and say "I can't take this anymore" and leave.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: evergreen_layne on October 25, 2006, 09:08:53 PM
I don't get this whole Buckethead nostalgia thread. I saw the band with Bucket, and thought he was brilliant, but as we all know, Axl wouldn't got someone in who didn't have the chops : Bumble's great too, and he's got a hat just like me. 

People don't reminisce about Paul Tobias, or Josh Freese for example, even though the two are probably the players on the leaked demos. Buckethead WAS, and great he was in the band. But he's not in the band anymore, lets look to the future.

Chinese Democracy is a blend of the lyrical wit of Axl Rose and the musical genius of Buckethead. I didn't believe this until I heard the leaks. There was a deep, deep chemistry there.

Yeah I don't think Uncle Axl would've allowed the leaks out with Bucket's solos if he was planning on erasing his contribution to CD.  Also Bumblefoot isn't gonna be on the recording so we're pretty sure Bucket will be on there.  All you haters out there that wanna end the Buckethead discussion get ready.  If Bucket's contributions remain on CD we will be discussing him a lot more in the future.  Also I agree that CD will be a blend of Axl and Bucket.  The only stronger chemistry is between Axl and Robin, but both relationships gave birth to this album.


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: jameslofton29 on October 25, 2006, 09:14:25 PM
I don't get this  Buckethead nostalgia
Listen to the demos. Then maybe you will "get it".
People don't reminisce about Paul Tobias
The ones who dont blindly worship Fortus miss him, because after hearing the demos people realized he was an intricate part of the band and didnt deserve all the hatred he got from fans back in the 90's.
Buckethead nostalgia thread.
Its not a Buckethead thread. Nesquick hijacked it(as usual). : ok:


Title: Re: The Axl Rose Interview With Kurt Loder From MTV NOVEMBER 8, 1999
Post by: markreed on October 26, 2006, 03:34:21 AM
haters?

I doubt anyone who says Buckethead was great would be a hater. I'm very familair with the demos : aren't most of us by now?