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There are a lot of members here from Europe, Canada, the States and beyond.  I can't believe some here will have CD in hand while the rest of us wait, but that may just be reality.  How does the release/distribution work?

theres a few topics with this being discussed? ?use the search feature? : ok:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=37861.msg761603#msg761603

CJ

Im sure everything about CD has been discussed before. Why even bother with new threads?  :hihi:

Well then tell me..how does it work? 

USA gets it first with certain parts of Europe and pehaps Australia...

CDs come out on monday in the UK, Tuesdays in America. Europe will get it first, but time differences mean it doesnt really matter! Its been discussed multiple times

Jonx

That's speculation, not fact.

CDs are released in North America on a Tuesday. ?In Europe on a Monday.

Many North Americans believe that it's impossible that CD would be released in Europe first, so state that it would have to be released in North America on the Tuesday and then Europe the following Monday.

However - it could be released in Europe on a Monday (a day earlier). ?

But since even UYIs were released earlier on Europe (Monday) it'll propably be the same with CD..

So Europe will most likely get it on Monday and US on Tuesday.  ;)

Live Era was released worldwide at the same date, as far as I remember.

Could be.  My point was that we don't know, so saying as a factual statement:

US will get it first
or
Europe will get it first

is a bit silly.  It could work either way, we don't know.

We DO know that the US is NOT the centre of the universe.  Well, some of us do ;)

CD pretty much always come out a day earlier in Europe.

And I live in Newfoundland, so we'll get the cd first in North America, by a half hour.

CD's over here in Holland and also in Germany come most of the time out on fridays (official), so that's 3 days earlier. And I don't think because it's GN'R that this will be completely different.

Most music is leaked from European sites that the US law cannot touch (thank god), so I'd say GNR being an American band it will hit shelves here first. Western Europe and Austraila will be right there also

Dont download the album, buy it! It will make an better first listening!  : ok:

I guess Europe may get it one day before the US. But im not sure.

I get it first. I'll tell everyone about it when I have it. My best friends dad knows this guy that worked at Interscope 10 years ago, who knows this guy that is still there, that dates this girl who is a receptionist there, who sucks off one of the higher ups almost every day... so I should have it first.  I can't wait.  But in all seriousness, I don't think I will be downloading the album when it leaks. If it leaks, I hope it's not a week or two before the release date. I hope it's a day before, so I won't have too long to wait. It will be hard not to download leaks BUT I KNOW how much better it will be to go to the store, buy the album, and listen to it in the car on the way home from the store. I have a bunch of paid vacation days at work, so I'm probably going to take that whole day off and I'll be taking off the 24th of Nov. for the Cleveland show. It won't get much better than being paid to listen to Chinese Democracy all fucking day long and watching GN'R live.

EDIT: I was thinking... if in fact it leaks early, I might listen to one or two of the songs I haven't heard yet and then wait to listen to the rest when the album comes out. I just don't think I have the will power to not listen to ANY of the leaks. Or I might just download the leaks of the songs I already know, like Madagascar, the Blues, IRS, Better, CD and TWAT, CITR, RHIAD if they make the album. Hopefully we get one or two B-sides with the first single as well.

i will get CD first.. so end of disscusion

Of course, people in other parts of North America probably don't have to wait until 10 am for HMV, Music World, Fred's (well no one else has Fred's), and CD Plus to open.  Haha, I guess we can get it at Walmart before everyone else!  :peace:

Yep, Walmart always has everything available at midnight. I'm glad my town built a Wal Mart two minutes away from me, so I'll have it right at midnight. Anyone else that wants the CD at midnight, take the advice and go to Wal Mart, unless you know of somewhere else that will offer it at the same time.

We DO know that the US is NOT the centre of the universe.?

Thats just crazy talk there ;)

Yeah, but if you buy it from Walmart, it WILL be edited.

NO IT WON'T. Wal Mart did away with only selling edited CD's a long, long time ago. That's not how it's done anymore.

Yeah, but Wall-Mart exists in every town in the USA :hihi: ::)

Lennon, you're wrong. I was just at Wal-Mart last night and saw Appetite For Destruction with no PA label on it, and the bar code said edited. I also saw a 50 Cent edited album as well. Wal-Mart sells ONLY edited music. That's a fact. It has been, it still is, and it likely always will be. They're douche bags in that respect. The only way to really take advantage of their prices is if you buy something like Led Zeppelin for example. It's from before PA labels even existed and there's little or no cursing. I actually bought Dark Side Of The Moon from there a while back.

They're douche bags in every sense...I just might blow $15 bucks to hear the edited version from 12am - 3am, then take a nap, wake up at 10am, and drive to Virgin megastore for the real thing :hihi:

Well, our Walmart closes at 11 pm and reopens 8 am, so I guess we're shit outta luck here to get the album first! ?: ok:

And where I'm from, Walmart doesn't just sell edited CDs. ?Hell, that's where I bought AFD in the mid-90s and that's not edited. ?It does have some edited CDs, but it's not exclusive.

Every cd I just qucily searched for (Eminen, Kid Rock, Appetite for Destruction...) says edited on it. ?I could be wrong, but I have never seen a cd there without "Edited" on it if it had bad langage. ?Green Day refused to edit their cds. ?Thats why you cant find them at Walmart. ?

I'm not wrong. I buy CD's at my walmart all the time that aren't edited. Our walmart is a Super-walmart, if that makes any difference and they sell unrated DVD's as well. I've actually been carded buying CD's and DVD's from my walmart. So maybe it varies, but my walmart DEFINITELY sells unedited CD's. I'm not making that up.

Explicit lyrics? Not in our store.
Guns and ammo? Sure, how much.

Or, you could download it from iTunes at 12 AM, burn it to a CD and then buy a real version later on. That way you've contributed TWO copies to the sales total, AND you get to hear the music right at 12 AM, UN-FUCKING-EDITED. :-)

Yeah boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!! : ok: : ok: :beer:

Isn't the "edited" barcode on AFD because the cover art was changed?

There are hardly any small Wal-Mart's left in the world, but they card for buying Rated R movies, much less unrated ones. And there's like 4 Super Wal-Marts here in Lubbock and I don't think any of them sell parental advisory CD's. They do sell rated R movies obviously, and I've been carded buying those, but they sell a few unrated movies here and there. For example, I bought Van Wilder from there a while back, but it was the R Rated version because they didn't have the unrated one. But I've seen other films in there with unrated labels, like Wedding Crashers for example.

Nope. If it was, then the copy I got at Best Buy with a PA sticker on it would have also had a "edited" label on the bar code.

From the Walmart page,

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=195963

 Music Content Policy 
 
Parental Advisory Labels
 
The Parental Advisory program is a voluntary program created and administered by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). Under the Parental Advisory program, individual record companies, working with their artists, decide which of their releases should be labeled with a Parental Advisory Label. Recordings identified with the Parental Advisory Label may contain strong language or depictions of violence, sex or substance abuse. Wal-Mart Stores, Sam's Club and Walmart.com (collectively "Wal-Mart") do not carry recordings designated with the Parental Advisory Label.
 
 

I'm not going to turn this into a "Does walmart sell edited CD's only thread" but I know for a fact mine sells unedited CD's and that's the only walmart I care about when CD is released. It's also SUPPOSED to be the 5th biggest Walmart in the US, which I hate because my fucking town is so fucking busy now, it sucks. But that's where I will be getting my unedited CD at midnight and that's all I care about at this point.

I'm not going to risk having the first copy of CD I hear be edited. I waited over a decade for the final product and I want it as it's meant to be. I'll wait the few extra hours...or, as someone said, Get an iTunes copy as well.

Am I the only fan that plans to by multiple copies anyway? I'll get two for myself (regular CD and iTunes probably) and a few copies to give to friends that wouldn't buy it but will enjoy it.

I will be buying a few copies for a couple of people and myself. That's about it though. I'm not going to buy 5 copies to try and help the sales like some fucking people will.

Thank you! Just because an album doesn't have an edited mention in the barcode doesn't mean anything. The fact of the matter is that there's more albums out there that do not require editing than there are that DO require editing. For example, 99% of the classic rock catalogue they have from before 1980 would not require any editing at all. Thus, you're getting the real deal. But do not buy GN'R or any newer metal or rap from them. LOL. You'll just get ripped off. Someone on here recently was complaining about buying Live Era from Wal-Mart and not really noticing the edited label (because it's concealed pretty well) and being really pissed when realizing that it was edited after listening to it. Check out their rap page; almost everything on there is edited except the ones that are clean enough to begin with:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=4117

Ah well, all I can say is that I bought AFD there, it's not edited, and there's no PAL on it (those things aren't mandatory here).

But anyway, Chinese Democracy will be carried at my Walmart, just like the rest of the GNR releases. ?And it will be available for purchase on the release date.

Agreed, I'n not buying copies to put on the shelf but I have several friends that I know will like it but wouldn't buy it themselves..probably 3-5 extra copies right there. I don't mind buying them as gifts for my friends, the fact that it helps uncle Axl pay for his Warhol painting is good too though  :rofl:

I have NEVER bought an edited CD from Wal Mart.
Hell, I even bought Pearl Jam's Live On Two Legs there, and that has "Fuckin Up" written clearly in the track listing. I used to buy a lot of CDs from Wal Mart, none of which had ever been edited. I'd demand a refund if I was ever sold a tampered recording. Maybe Wal Mart USA edits CDs, but I guarentee you 100% that here in Canada (Newfoundland at least), Wal Mart does sell "naughty" CDs.

I'm sure that HMV and other big music-only stores will open at 12:00 AM to sell this CD. They usually do for big releases at this time of the year.

What you can get at Wal*Mart varies from store to store. Regardless of "corporate policy," lots of Wal*Mart stores choose to stock "explicit" cds (which are clearly marked as such, PDA sticker or not) and R-rated/Unrated DVDs which come through Wal*Mart's  own distribution system.  Anyone who has problems with their local Wal*Mart should try elsewhere.

Weird out of blue question but does anyone know when places such as Japan, China, New Zealand, and Australia get CD releases?  Being that they are far ahead of both the US and Europe regarding the time wouldn't they get something before we do?

On topic: I will be hitting the local Best Buy to get my CD copy, I don't want to chance getting anything edited! :peace:

I bought my Girlfriend a copy of some Eminem cd that was massively edited and a unedited remaster of Slayer Reign in Blood, which if you have listened to Slayer before you may be aware it's full of Neo Nazi and satanic lyrics. So I guess wal-mart doesn't want you to hear Eminem call someone a bitch ass nigga but they're okay with satan worshipping nazi's.

Your weird out of the blue question is on topic. 

 :rofl:

I can't even begin to imagine what an edited Eminem CD must sound like! ?I guess they couldn't understand the Slayer CD so that one passed through!

I have to also think that most of what we already heard of CD songs don't really have any foul language though. ?Unless I am hearing wrong? ?I suppose what we haven't heard could be full of foul language though!

I have never bought a CD at Walmart, frankly.? I don't even remember the last time I actually bought a CD (damn downloading motherf&&ker I am) but I will get my ass to the store for Chinese Democracy!

Anywho, any Australian/Japanese members here that can answer my previous question?

I've always received my cds almost 2 days before the US.
New Zealand releases albums on mondays. We are also the first country in the world to see the sun and are 21 hours ahead of the time in LA.

Looks like I will have my copy of Chinese Democracy 45 hours before you Yanks.  :hihi:  :smoking:  :peace:

Yeah, my Wal-Mart sells lots of unrated/R-rated DVDs as well as South Park the film and TV show. I've seen edited CDs there as well as unedited ones. I bought Greatest Hits there last week.

I will never go to Wal-Mart.  They destroy the culture of the neighborhood and they sell crappy merchandise.  Don't support Wal-Mart!

I hate them too. I also hate the people who shop there. No offense to Wal-Mart shoppers. But in my area all the rednecks in red pickup trucks with ladders sticking out the back and nails stuck in the tires flock there after the local construction sites are closed for the day. I try to go there as little as possible. They do lure me, however, with their great DVD sales.  :-\ And Subway.  ;D

Not sure it's worth living in NZ for though ;)


(Just a joke - ex resident :) )

Thanks for answering, although we don't love being called Yanks! :o

(here in the US Yanks is actually a slang term used by southerners for those who live in the North East)

But I guess this concludes who will be getting CD 1st :hihi:

It doesnt matter to me what day it comes out, We will all get it at the same time because it will most likely leak. Then we can all download it and go and buy it when it reaches stores, We are like a bunch of junkies and gunners is the fix.

china/japan w/e there release might have an extra song, as ive seen this for several cds released over there

I think the only thing edited about AFD at Wal-Mart is the booklet. I bought my first copy from there when I first got into GN'R, and there's no booklet whatsoever. Just the front and back covers, and the inside has the GN'R logo on one side and the band photo on the other.

I just looked up that Pearl Jam album on Amazon.com and it says nothing about Explicit Lyrics. That's an indication that the album itself did not receive a PA and as such, the record label did not need to release an edited version.

And about Greatest Hits, I'm curious how much cussing is actually on that album? Hardly any. For some reason, it received a PA label (at lest iTunes has it with one) because of the GN'R reputation I guess. Amazon.com's version of Greatest Hits doesn't mention explicit lyrics like it does for AFD so maybe they took back the parental advisory or something?

All of the "Downloading Motherfuckers" will get CD first.

I bought Contraband at WalMart, and it was not edited.

After all these years of waiting I hope not!  I guess they do that because bootlegging is a huge issue over there but still I don't think it's right that they get something extra because of it-

I'm gonna say that all Walmarts do their own thing.  I got mine at the smallest Walmart in North America, and it has all the lyrics and has that original cover picture on the inside of the jacket.

I would tend to believe you.  This Walmart argument is getting kind of silly at this point. 

When did this become a weird Walmart thread?

None taken.  :P
Everyone hates Wal*Mart. But you can't get Swiss~Miss cocoa for 83 cents a box anywhere else. If it's a choice between me being broke and a bunch of people stupid enough to work at walmart being broke, then to hell with compassion.

I went there today actually. Did a quick check; No explicit cds at my new local store. They had "edited", "amended," and "clean" cds. Except for GNR Greatest Hits. That cd had a more interesting sticker on it; "This album has been edited by the label. . . [blah blah blah]" Has anyone else seen this on GNR cds (and been thoroughly disgusted)?
Also, "Use Your Illusion, The Best Of" is the most ridiculous thing I've  seen. . .  today.

When we began discussing release date midnight purchase strategies :p

Yeah, for 45 hours you are going to be king. Except for after the first hour once it's been uploaded to torrents and P2P programs worldwide. Then everyone will have access to it. And of course that's not counting all the US fans who will purchase it online and get it delivered in the mail the same day as you once they order from a New Zealand overnight company. But man, that first hour for you is gonna be sweet. Congratulations.

Yeah, you'll have it before us. Unless it's released on a monday worldwide, except for the Oceanic areas receiving their release a day later to avoid online bootlegging. Wouldn't that be funny? Yes.


Oceania? Australasia? I have no  idea.

Jarmo gets CD first

Whos says he doesn't already have it?  :hihi:

He did a good job holding back that news.. so.. they rewarded him. lol. Kiddin Jarmo