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Title: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Sparksry on October 23, 2006, 10:20:56 AM
Could axl be trying to release his album with his ex band  mate Gilby's band supernova?.... just a thought ... nothing official

(sorry if this has been posted)


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Jonx on October 23, 2006, 10:27:10 AM
nah it will be the 28th  : ok:

Jonx


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: JuicySwoos on October 23, 2006, 10:38:19 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.  : ok:


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Jonx on October 23, 2006, 10:39:15 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.  : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on October 23, 2006, 10:46:33 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.? : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?  Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?  From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.  Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: daviebuckethead on October 23, 2006, 10:47:10 AM
the 28th i beleiev, it allows roughly 5/6 weeks promo, which godwilling will start tomorrow!!!


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: daviebuckethead on October 23, 2006, 10:48:51 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.  : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this? Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan? From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another. Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.


no chance, if its released in the states  a week before it will be all over the net and damage sales elsewhere. not a chance this will happen. the release will be the same, worldwide


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Bartlet on October 23, 2006, 10:50:15 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.? : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?? Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?? From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.? Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.


cant it be released everywhere on the same day, with just small allowances for time zones? i thought lots of big releases happened this way...?

EDIT damn u beat me to it ^^


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: JuicySwoos on October 23, 2006, 10:50:24 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.? : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?? Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?? From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.? Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.

I know, but I can hope...anyone else still going to go to the wrecka stow tommorrow just to satisfy curiosity?


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Jonx on October 23, 2006, 10:51:02 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.  : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?  Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?  From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.  Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.

Im only saying one days difference. Monday is when CDs usually come out in England, not sure about the rest of Europe. Its Tuesdays in the States for most albums, yes yes i know there are exceptions and CD may well be one of them, but because of the way the charts work over here CDs come out on Mondays, not Tuesdays like in the States, hence i would have it in my hands because its almost 4 PM here in England!

Jonx


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: yarvis on October 23, 2006, 10:52:27 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.  : ok:

Nah, don't think so. Maybe the single but how come no one knows anything about it - radio or the stores.

IMO the question is: Is this all a great marketing move (ad etc.) or is it just uncoordinated?



November 21st would be cool though.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: JuicySwoos on October 23, 2006, 10:55:50 AM
I don't actually BELIEVE its coming out tommorrow.  I am just having fun with the ride.  I am going to go tom Best Buy every Tuesday for the rest of the year just for fun.  And maybe just maybe, CD will be there.  Woohoo.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: PrettyTiedUp763 on October 23, 2006, 10:58:43 AM
I doubt the release date will have anything to do with Supernova.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Lord Kayoss on October 23, 2006, 11:30:30 AM
I'm glad Merck actually said "it will be one of these 10 remaining Tuesdays."? Thats more info than we've ever gotten concerning a release date.? Still though, it didn't come from Axl so I question it.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Howard2k on October 23, 2006, 11:58:37 AM
Its coming out tommorrow.? : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?? Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?? From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.? Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.

Since the advent of "the Internet", releasing it (more than) a week later in Europe would just enoucrage those in Europe to download it from their American friends.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: CAFC Nick on October 23, 2006, 12:13:21 PM
Lol I was in WH Smith in England this morning about 10:15am, and I was about to buy a paper and just before I went to the desk to pay, I thought about ChiDem and I put the paper down and went to like the CD and games section just to make sure. No CD  :'(


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on October 23, 2006, 03:13:14 PM
Its coming out tommorrow.? : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?? Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?? From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.? Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.

Since the advent of "the Internet", releasing it (more than) a week later in Europe would just enoucrage those in Europe to download it from their American friends.


By that logic then, the states would be able to download it Sunday at 3pm PST or 6pm EST if they have a midnight sale in England.  So either way, you're going to have internet leaks.  Since sales of albums are always stronger in the US than in Europe, it would make sense to release it in the states first or (hopefully) release it a day earlier/later so that everyone gets it the same time.  Does anyone know if the Illusions were released a day earlier in Europe?  Not that it would have mattered because the internet wasn't really used then, let alone broad-band technology.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: GNRBABY on October 23, 2006, 03:17:31 PM
LIES! You should be banned!!! :rant:


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on October 23, 2006, 03:23:38 PM
LIES! You should be banned!!! :rant:

yeah......


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Decadence on October 23, 2006, 03:28:15 PM
Its coming out tommorrow.? : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?? Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?? From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.? Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.

Since the advent of "the Internet", releasing it (more than) a week later in Europe would just enoucrage those in Europe to download it from their American friends.


By that logic then, the states would be able to download it Sunday at 3pm PST or 6pm EST if they have a midnight sale in England.? So either way, you're going to have internet leaks.? Since sales of albums are always stronger in the US than in Europe, it would make sense to release it in the states first or (hopefully) release it a day earlier/later so that everyone gets it the same time.? Does anyone know if the Illusions were released a day earlier in Europe?? Not that it would have mattered because the internet wasn't really used then, let alone broad-band technology.

Sales of albums in the US are stronger than through the entirety of Europe?  Is that really true?  Europe is quite big you know.  With a thriving metal/rock scene.

FWIW, I can't see that it will get a week's preview in the US before being released over here - like other people have said, it's too big a gamble, too large a market to lose.  There might be 24 hrs of leaks should it be the other way around but that won't have as much impact as almost a week's worth. 


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: mrbrownstone8797 on October 23, 2006, 03:33:14 PM
Its coming out tommorrow.  : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx
Have you walked in to a record store today?


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on October 23, 2006, 04:18:42 PM
Its coming out tommorrow.? : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?? Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?? From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.? Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.

Since the advent of "the Internet", releasing it (more than) a week later in Europe would just enoucrage those in Europe to download it from their American friends.


By that logic then, the states would be able to download it Sunday at 3pm PST or 6pm EST if they have a midnight sale in England.? So either way, you're going to have internet leaks.? Since sales of albums are always stronger in the US than in Europe, it would make sense to release it in the states first or (hopefully) release it a day earlier/later so that everyone gets it the same time.? Does anyone know if the Illusions were released a day earlier in Europe?? Not that it would have mattered because the internet wasn't really used then, let alone broad-band technology.

Sales of albums in the US are stronger than through the entirety of Europe?? Is that really true?? Europe is quite big you know.? With a thriving metal/rock scene.

FWIW, I can't see that it will get a week's preview in the US before being released over here - like other people have said, it's too big a gamble, too large a market to lose.? There might be 24 hrs of leaks should it be the other way around but that won't have as much impact as almost a week's worth.?

I'm not doubting the size of fans or their taste in music.  We all know that rock and metal are mre mainstream in Europe than in the States.  I'm simply talking about Guns N' Roses albums sales, which are higher in the United States.  Although to clarify my post, we're taling about England, not all of Europe since release dates differ.  That being said, I believe I am correct in syaing that Live Era and Greatest Hits sold more in the states than in Europe combined.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: axlschild on October 23, 2006, 04:34:32 PM
I'm glad Merck actually said "it will be one of these 10 remaining Tuesdays."? Thats more info than we've ever gotten concerning a release date.? Still though, it didn't come from Axl so I question it.


when did merck say this? i thought that would be reported on more....


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: JuicySwoos on October 23, 2006, 04:38:19 PM
I'm glad Merck actually said "it will be one of these 10 remaining Tuesdays."? Thats more info than we've ever gotten concerning a release date.? Still though, it didn't come from Axl so I question it.


when did merck say this? i thought that would be reported on more....

In an article we cannot talk about right now


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Decadence on October 23, 2006, 05:46:59 PM
Its coming out tommorrow.? : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?? Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?? From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.? Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.

Since the advent of "the Internet", releasing it (more than) a week later in Europe would just enoucrage those in Europe to download it from their American friends.


By that logic then, the states would be able to download it Sunday at 3pm PST or 6pm EST if they have a midnight sale in England.? So either way, you're going to have internet leaks.? Since sales of albums are always stronger in the US than in Europe, it would make sense to release it in the states first or (hopefully) release it a day earlier/later so that everyone gets it the same time.? Does anyone know if the Illusions were released a day earlier in Europe?? Not that it would have mattered because the internet wasn't really used then, let alone broad-band technology.

Sales of albums in the US are stronger than through the entirety of Europe?? Is that really true?? Europe is quite big you know.? With a thriving metal/rock scene.

FWIW, I can't see that it will get a week's preview in the US before being released over here - like other people have said, it's too big a gamble, too large a market to lose.? There might be 24 hrs of leaks should it be the other way around but that won't have as much impact as almost a week's worth.?

I'm not doubting the size of fans or their taste in music.? We all know that rock and metal are mre mainstream in Europe than in the States.? I'm simply talking about Guns N' Roses albums sales, which are higher in the United States.? Although to clarify my post, we're taling about England, not all of Europe since release dates differ.? That being said, I believe I am correct in syaing that Live Era and Greatest Hits sold more in the states than in Europe combined.

OK dude, thanks for clarifying your post.  What you were trying to get across makes more sense now.  You may well be correct in saying that Live Era and Greatest Hits sold more in the US, I was just pointing out that GnR would lose more sales by releasing it a week earlier in the US than it would by releasing it 24 hrs earlier in England. 


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Alan on October 23, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
Its coming out tommorrow.  : ok:

Would be out in England then, since i dont have it in my hands i think tomorrow in the States is off the cards!

Jonx

Why do people continue to assume this?  Is it not possible that it will be released in the states a week before it hits Europe and Japan?  From a command and control perspective, it'd be much easier to release it in one market, and quickly to another.  Assuming they want to keep the release on the down-low.

i can't think of a single album that has been released in the US and then 6 days later in europe.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Funeral on October 23, 2006, 08:08:10 PM
My guess is 11/10/06!  Same day as the MSG show.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: usedtoloverher on October 23, 2006, 08:30:08 PM
My guess is the 31st December, just for a laugh.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: downzy56 on October 24, 2006, 07:39:08 AM
For those of you who need Chinese Democracy to reach number one for its debute week to make yourselves feel good about the album, it looks like December 5th may be off the table now as well: Gwen Stefani's next album is scheduled to release that day.  Just so you know,

Cheers,

Andrew


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Longpig on October 24, 2006, 08:15:39 AM
Surely that heap of shit won't sell that well?
Not that I give 2 shits about a number 1 album.... but I'd hope it would be that.

LP


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: duga on October 24, 2006, 09:05:50 AM
For those of you who need Chinese Democracy to reach number one for its debute week to make yourselves feel good about the album, it looks like December 5th may be off the table now as well: Gwen Stefani's next album is scheduled to release that day.? Just so you know,

Cheers,

Andrew

I don't think Axl Rose cares about Stefani. Maybe Jay Z or Eminem though.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Meanmachine22 on October 24, 2006, 10:05:39 AM
what a soap opera that is  ::)

The wheels are already in motion as we speak. Promotion already started. Ok, the promotion is a little weird but CD also does not seem to be a normal album anyway ::)

2006 HAS to be the year. Everything else would be beyond being ridiculous


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Sparksry on October 24, 2006, 10:27:52 AM
I can see thge album come out this year.... but if hes going to put it out hes gonna advertize it... its his baby... hes gonna want everyone even all the non gnr fans to know that his cd is coming out... it will make the cover of the rolling stone magazine i bet.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on October 24, 2006, 12:35:30 PM
is there any history in this place with music.jus a thought as its the date thats strongly rumoured and has just surfaced

GUNS N ROSES
21 Nov 2006 , 8:00 PM
Saint John, NB at the Harbour Station


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: axlschild on October 24, 2006, 01:42:22 PM
I'm glad Merck actually said "it will be one of these 10 remaining Tuesdays."? Thats more info than we've ever gotten concerning a release date.? Still though, it didn't come from Axl so I question it.


when did merck say this? i thought that would be reported on more....

In an article we cannot talk about right now


ok so am io allow to ask if some will confirm which month of this magazine the article is in, i am allow to go buy the mag' and read it for myself, right???


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: oneway23 on October 24, 2006, 02:04:04 PM
I'm glad Merck actually said "it will be one of these 10 remaining Tuesdays."  Thats more info than we've ever gotten concerning a release date.  Still though, it didn't come from Axl so I question it.


when did merck say this? i thought that would be reported on more....

In an article we cannot talk about right now


ok so am io allow to ask if some will confirm which month of this magazine the article is in, i am allow to go buy the mag' and read it for myself, right???

It's in the Nov. 3rd issue I believe; released last Friday.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Jeramy on October 24, 2006, 09:56:25 PM
Halloween is next Tuesday and now that I think about it they played The Adam's Family song right before IRS at The Warfield .... WAS IT A HINT???????


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: newgnr on October 24, 2006, 10:11:05 PM
Halloween is next Tuesday and now that I think about it they played The Adam's Family song right before IRS at The Warfield .... WAS IT A HINT???????

good god, you can't be serious...a hint? c'mon now.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on October 24, 2006, 10:16:08 PM
Halloween is next Tuesday and now that I think about it they played The Adam's Family song right before IRS at The Warfield .... WAS IT A HINT???????

Thats a bit far fetched dude but gotta love the avatar.
I dont think itll be releasd in england first or US first but itll be a simaltanious release like all over the globe.


 :peace:


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: JDA on October 24, 2006, 11:43:55 PM
I heard Jay Z's album might be being moved back to the 13th.  Does this maybe mean GN'R will be coming out on the 21st?


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: grog mug on October 24, 2006, 11:47:12 PM
I read a rumor claiming that GN'R is penciled in for a December 5th release at some record store...remember anythings possible with GN'R.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: russtcb on October 25, 2006, 10:51:23 AM
I heard a rumor from a calendar that there are only 9 Tuesdays left in this year. Is that true?


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: usedtoloverher on October 25, 2006, 01:38:58 PM
I heard a rumor from a calendar that there are only 9 Tuesdays left in this year. Is that true?

No there are not 9 tuesdays left, just 17.


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: Scabbie on October 25, 2006, 02:00:14 PM
I heard a rumor from a calendar that there are only 9 Tuesdays left in this year. Is that true?

No there are not 9 tuesdays left, just 17.

i think you mean 7!


Title: Re: November 21st --- Speculation Release Date
Post by: usedtoloverher on October 25, 2006, 02:03:11 PM
I heard a rumor from a calendar that there are only 9 Tuesdays left in this year. Is that true?

No there are not 9 tuesdays left, just 17.

i think you mean 7!

I was being cynical in the first place.