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Title: Children Of Men (Warning : Spoilers inside)
Post by: NicoRourke on October 20, 2006, 04:29:47 AM
Anybody seen this one ?

I went to see it yesterday evening and it's really good. I like anticipation movies a lot and this one's brilliant :yes:

Plus it has Clive Owen in it, and IMO he's a very talented actor.

I've enjoyed Alfonso Cuaron's previous work and this one is going in my top five for this year.

Thoughts ?


Title: Re: Children Of Men
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on October 20, 2006, 11:27:30 AM
god !
saw that yesterday

very very very ..... bad movie


positive points : steadycam shooting, dv image, blood / smoke / dirt splashes on the camera, "over the shoulder" type of filming, sound design

appart from that, story sucked ass, actors were annoying, framing was boring and classic as hell, dialogs too, many very very stupid dramatic scene ( exiting the building with the baby ... give me something i can use !!!)

anyway. wake me up when a big budget movie is good :)


Title: Re: Children Of Men
Post by: NicoRourke on October 20, 2006, 11:36:05 AM
positive points : steadycam shooting, dv image, blood / smoke / dirt splashes on the camera, "over the shoulder" type of filming, sound design

Agree on all that :yes: Specially on the filming and the use of the steadycam. Isn't the whole scene when Clive Owen enters the building then leaves with Kee + baby filmed as a long sequence plan, with any cuts ?

Anyway, I dig that reality style.

appart from that, story sucked ass, actors were annoying

Strongly disagree :yes:

Clive Owen & Michael Caine are both excellent and I like the story, except the fact that there's no real explanation for the women's fertility problem. Plus the idea of having a lead actor (Julianne Moore) dying so soon in the movie is surprising. After that you get a feeling of insecurity for the rest of the characters.

I go and change the title of the topic to add Spoilers In case people are going to see it :yes:


Title: Re: Children Of Men (Warning : Spoilers inside)
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on October 20, 2006, 12:01:43 PM
i can see what you mean
but not focusing on explanatory issues (the problem, the ending, the cause, political status ...) means you want to focus on more down to earth issuers : men/women relationship, personal feeling, philosophical metaphor, anything .... but no they failed
the story is empty

when you don't want to bother with a story (that's the case, they only state a littel brief concept i dea, that any sci-fi fans would invent in 10 minutes - im not talking about the book, im talking about what you get from the movie)
so when you dont want to bother with a story you need to be very interesting somewhere else.

japanese films like " There Was a Father " (ozu) or " taste of sake" (ozu) do it perfectly.
characters are no clich?.

but yeah, clive owen chased by tanks scenes were impressive :)


Title: Re: Children Of Men (Warning : Spoilers inside)
Post by: Mauve_All on November 16, 2006, 12:35:03 PM
I saw the film about 3 weeks ago and I can't say i liked it. It featured great photography alright but I think it incorporated too much violence without making a comment on the real issue. The way I see it, it should have focused more on the issue of new hope in the world. I think that the book could have been used better to provide a deeper and better script. Also, the end was rather abrupt, wasn't it ?


Title: Re: Children Of Men (Warning : Spoilers inside)
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on November 16, 2006, 01:12:26 PM
I saw the film about 3 weeks ago and I can't say i liked it. It featured great photography alright but I think it incorporated too much violence without making a comment on the real issue. The way I see it, it should have focused more on the issue of new hope in the world. I think that the book could have been used better to provide a deeper and better script. Also, the end was rather abrupt, wasn't it ?

it was.

violence was ok. served the shock system.
but yeah, the meanings/issues were left out, and character relationship not strong enoughs to make us forget about the poor stroy line.