Here Today... Gone To Hell!

hi,

was this thread eleted, i assume it was. if so why? it was actually not a bad threadand i think i good point on how GnR management is awaue / unaware of the variuos types of media/ publicity out there.

would it be possible to put deleted thread in to a different section (the thread could be locked still) and then people can see the posts that they missed before it was deleted? :)

um if it gets deleted then the mods have a good reason :peace:

for example?

and, "management" asked to remove it doesn't count :-\

this a fan board, and they should be allowed to discuss whatever the hell they want within the law, and the rules.

i didn't read any rules about "no topics about the media awareness of guns n roses management"?

c'mon man, see sense!

No, freedom of speech doesn't apply here.


This isn't a "Guns N' Roses Management" board.




/jarmo

Stop treating it like one, then.

Stop thinking you run this board and you can tell me what to do.





/jarmo

Can we get a clear definition of what we ARE allowed to discuss?

Seems like the RS article is taboo (even though it's being circulated in print and on their website

And we're not allowed to discuss the new 2 CD set either?

Basically... if you post something in the gnr section and it's still there half an hour later, you're good to go.

You're funny. Just because we've decided not to discuss one article you think everything else is banned.

If you wanna discuss the unauthorized shitty bootleg documentary, go and do so in the AFC section.

You need to open your eyes and realize that a lot of the threas you think are deleted are in fact moved and/or merged with previous ones.




/jarmo

Forgive me for not being psychic.

With all due respect, I think this is being handled disgracefully.  That's not a personal attack, just to be clear.  I'm not calling you a prick, I understand that it's a tight position. 

There are new threads popping up all the time about this and then just vanishing just as fast.    If you WANT people to think that you guys just pull threads at will, then this is the way to do it.

Why not put up a sticky or something to indicate what is happening?  If you choose not to allow discussion of the article then so be it, why not make it public?   Create a new sticky that indicates that although there is news currently circulating in a magazine's print and website editions, that you've been asked to now allow discussion on the subject and will be enforcing this until advised otherwise.

At least people would KNOW what the fuck is happening instead of the gong show that we have right now.

It's also possible to create "thread redirects" for those threads that are moved.   This is an option when the thread is moved, I've seen it done on this forum before, yet for some reason you guys are choosing not to do it.


All it would take is one thread about the box set CDs (which I agree, probably DO suck) to be redirected from the main forum and a quick scan by a potential poster would allow them to see that it's already being discussed, but the thread was moved.

We chose not to do it in certain cases because it would clutter up the GN'R section.




/jarmo

ok.

Well your decision obviously.

Regardless, I appreciate having the forum here, even if I disagree with the way things are being handled. :)

This is what im talking about. You come with the best sollution, an easy way to end all confussion, and Jarmo just ignores your post.

Nobody is telling you how to run the board, if management or whoever asked you not to discuss it and you choose not to thats your decision, no matter how stupid we find it. However, what we are asking is a little better communication on the matter. Nobody likes their threads and posts deleted for no reason. And people shouldnt have to go digging through threads to find out why. One stickied thread explaining why or even just saying you cant do it would be the best way to handle this.

Yes, I also wish EVERYTHING was fuckin' encrypted, because now I got a -1 karma for saying where you can talk about the whole thing without getting in trouble... Can you please explain to me and everyone else why we can't even mention it? 

maybe you got a -1 karma, because jarmo didn`t like you calling him a homo over at mygnr?

Jarmo respects people. That is all anything is down to.

If you have a problem with that, then question your upbringing

Sometimes I question whether he respects people on this board though.

Im not trying to take a shot at him but the way he talks down to people and just deletes posts and threads without giving a reason makes me wonder sometimes.

Funny, I should take tips about respect from people who call me every name they can think of on other boards.   :hihi:




/jarmo

It's because he respects people on this board that he is doing it

People never look further than there nose when it comes to giving opinions sometimes

This board has a big history. Why people cannot trust Jarmo with what he does I'll never know.

at the end of the day everyone can be as pissed off as they want.

it's jarmo's board and if he wants to delete every topic on it he can.

 :rofl: , man, there's no democracy here, that's for sure!!

Yeah, of course there's no democracy.

If this was a democracy, there'd be fees, tolls or taxes you'd have to pay for this place to even exist.

Then we'd vote for who gets to run the place and people like you might get a lot of votes because you're "cool".

Then, to keep that image going, you'd let the place turn into a shithole full of cool things like porn, illegal mp3s, downloads and topics with lots of pointless drivel in them.

When you'd realize that the place isn't any fun anymore, you start changing it only to discover your supporters are now calling you a nazi.

If you fail to realize your place had gone down the drain, you'll notice everybody leaving because all the other places have better porn, downloads and even more pointless drivel than your place.




/jarmo

Jarmo,

im really sorry you're in the situation that you are in.....truly. but at the same time you surely must understand the point of some posters regarding the censorship (on this board only, the "news", is all over the net and has been for ages now...) and also their frustration at something going on, but no one quite knowing what......and they think you know "what".......whcih is a natural conclusion.

bottom line is i think you are in the dark as much as everyone, but i think management screwed you just a little, they must've know this thing would blow up like this.

chin up mate!

now now children lol

here bloody here.

because, to be frank, many of the posts that I have read from people in a respected position on this board have actually been quite venemous and unprofessional.
I freely express my disappointment in what is usually a very fairly run and respectable discussion forum.

off to find porn elsewhere then... (?!!?)

I don't think anyone is questioning this, nor do i think this needs a heavy political discussion.

What it does need, however, is respect from all parties. I am not seeing that with the communication that is taking place. The only communication I have read is patronising and offensive and I'm sure others agree. Why is there the need for BOTH sides in this debate to go aroudn belittling each other or just not be able to take a joke/respect the culture of others?

Surely everyone can try to relax a little and respect the language and cultural barriers of others before acting on impulse?!

A confused Bob!