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Title: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: guns_n_motley on October 13, 2006, 06:44:21 PM Im a big skid row/sebastian bach fan.. and wont be able to see the first leg :no: you think sebastian will be on the 2nd US leg too??
I mean he opened europe and 1st us leg... and him and axl are friends.. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: PJ on October 13, 2006, 06:52:53 PM i wish
Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: russtcb on October 13, 2006, 06:52:59 PM Im a big skid row/sebastian bach fan.. and wont be able to see the first leg :no: you think sebastian will be on the 2nd US leg too?? I mean he opened europe and 1st us leg... and him and axl are friends.. I'd be shocked if he's not on board for almost this whole tour. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: mega_music on October 13, 2006, 06:54:13 PM lets just get through this first leg of the tour before we start to speculate on the 2nd leg. However I will bet he will be on board..
Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: polluxlm on October 13, 2006, 07:02:07 PM This is Axl people, let's take it one step at a time ;D
Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: 1badapple on October 13, 2006, 09:07:25 PM Provided the tour gets to a second leg, if Axl asks Baz to keep opening, Baz will do it.
Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: The Legend on October 13, 2006, 10:33:29 PM Im a big skid row/sebastian bach fan.. and wont be able to see the first leg :no:? you think sebastian will be on the 2nd US leg too?? I mean he opened europe and 1st us leg... and him and axl are friends.. I'd be shocked if he's not on board for almost this whole tour. That's pretty much how I feel. Back in 1990 GNR & Skid Row were in my top-3 fav. bands, so in 2006 to get to see both Axl & Baz in the same show like the old days... i'm pretty stoked. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: Axl&Baz07 on October 13, 2006, 10:50:25 PM yes.? Sebastian Bach has all of the dates that he's opening for GN'R & also the dates that he is headlining, on his website.? :peace:
i think he is singing on every date of the entire GN'R tour, minus Puerto Rico & Halifax. i'll be at the San Diego show in January!? i'm really looking forward to seeing both Axl & Baz!!? ?8) Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: russtcb on October 14, 2006, 07:46:47 AM Im a big skid row/sebastian bach fan.. and wont be able to see the first leg :no: you think sebastian will be on the 2nd US leg too?? I mean he opened europe and 1st us leg... and him and axl are friends.. I'd be shocked if he's not on board for almost this whole tour. That's pretty much how I feel. Back in 1990 GNR & Skid Row were in my top-3 fav. bands, so in 2006 to get to see both Axl & Baz in the same show like the old days... i'm pretty stoked. I hope Baz's guitar player is fucking great this time. I saw him around 99 or so and the guitar player was just so-so. I want to hear "Monkey Business" SOOOO badly and I want it to rock. Hard. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: The Legend on October 14, 2006, 07:53:34 AM Baz opened some shows in Europe right?
Typically what kind of sets was he playing? There's so much Skid Row stuff I want to hear! Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: chriskon72 on October 14, 2006, 09:01:13 AM Like most of us I consider myself a hardcore GNR fan,
Skid Row (and of course Baz) were the only band that I would have said are my favs as well. Skid Row & Guns n' Roses CNE Grandstand in Toronto 07.06.91 hands down best show I've ever seen (Pink Floyd doesn't count). Travelled from Innsbruck to Munich to see The skids open for the Crue on the Feelgood tour and had the plesure of meeting Snake, Rachel and Rob fuckin' cool guy's. Back in 98 went to see Baz and hung out with him too he was really cool, funny as shit. The Girl I was living with at the time went with me she had the hottest Tits known to man and Baz couldn't keep his eyes off them hahaha. I thought that was funny as hell. Back to the point....Baz does a great job, awsome front man. I think he and Axl really like eachother...it seem Baz is one of the few people that Axl trusts (I'm just speculating) and considers him a bud.... Axl just be careful if the chick your with has hot Tits Baz will be watching :rofl: By the way SUBHUMAN RACE is one the best fuckin albums ever ! If you don't have check it out, it rocks hard Cheers Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: 1badapple on October 14, 2006, 09:25:50 AM Subhuman Race is a great record, but for some reason alot of people think it sucks.
Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: guns_n_motley on October 14, 2006, 09:26:47 AM I like subhuman race... I think people were expecting a Slave to the grind 2... and thats why they dont like it...
one thing I like about skid row is they got different each album.. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: ILChief on October 14, 2006, 02:57:05 PM Provided the tour gets to a second leg, if Axl asks Baz to keep opening, Baz will do it. provided it has a first one Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: russtcb on October 14, 2006, 03:19:52 PM Subhuman Race is a great record, but for some reason alot of people think it sucks. I think the songs are great, but the production bothers me alot. It's a kick ass album though, that's for sure. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: guns_n_motley on October 14, 2006, 09:30:41 PM Subhuman Race is a great record, but for some reason alot of people think it sucks. I think the songs are great, but the production bothers me alot. It's a kick ass album though, that's for sure. wasnt it produced by Bob Rock, the smae guy who did metallicas black album?? mike wagener was good for that band.. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: BigDeech on October 14, 2006, 09:36:57 PM I hope they play
The Threat, Youth Gone Wild, 18 and Life, I Remember You, Slave To The Grind, and Wasted Time :beer: Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: TurboTravis on October 14, 2006, 09:41:48 PM Let's worry about getting a successful first leg, a single and album before we even THINK about a 2nd leg..
Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: a. on October 14, 2006, 11:00:36 PM I'm sure he'll be there, but yes let's get this first part off to the raced (round 2!).
a. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: axlschild on October 15, 2006, 04:55:17 AM I hope they play The Threat, Youth Gone Wild, 18 and Life, I Remember You, Slave To The Grind, and Wasted Time :beer: see baz a bunch of times no chance of the threat, dont remember seeing skid row do it... last time i saw him in notts, uk it was something like slave big guns piece of me monkey business by your side-new song 18 & life i remember you here i am new song??-cant remember name youth gone wild wrong order & i think there was a couple more, sorry my memeory is a little hazy, bach was great though enjoy the show : ok: Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: russtcb on October 15, 2006, 08:06:15 AM I hope they play The Threat, Youth Gone Wild, 18 and Life, I Remember You, Slave To The Grind, and Wasted Time :beer: see baz a bunch of times no chance of the threat, dont remember seeing skid row do it... last time i saw him in notts, uk it was something like slave big guns piece of me monkey business by your side-new song 18 & life i remember you here i am new song??-cant remember name youth gone wild wrong order & i think there was a couple more, sorry my memeory is a little hazy, bach was great though enjoy the show : ok: There are a ton of Skids tunes I think alot of us would want to hear. But the man has alot of hits, plus a new album he's recording and only about 40 minutes to play. The list you reported is pretty much exactly what I would expect. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: jimmythegent on October 15, 2006, 07:23:45 PM I really don't see the logic of having Sebastion Bach associated with this tour/relaunch.
Axl (and band) should be associating with current, edgy bands (the Killers being a great example). Bach is so attached to that late 80's scene/sound that GNR managed to surpass back in the day. To hark back to that is very odd in my view. Great that Axl is doing an old buddy a favour and all - but in all seriousness, I think its time he focused less on favours and more on how the public is going to perceive this whole tour/relaunch. I can't fathom it. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: guns_n_motley on October 15, 2006, 07:33:30 PM I really don't see the logic of having Sebastion Bach associated with this tour/relaunch. Axl (and band) should be associating with current, edgy bands (the Killers being a great example). Bach is so attached to that late 80's scene/sound that GNR managed to surpass back in the day. To hark back to that is very odd in my view. Great that Axl is doing an old buddy a favour and all - but in all seriousness, I think its time he focused less on favours and more on how the public is going to perceive this whole tour/relaunch. I can't fathom it. who gives a shit... I wouldnt want axl to sell out and take out trendy bands... So he wants to take someone who is probably his ONLY FRIEND on tour with him and do him a favor.. besides, MOST gnr fans like Skid Row, so who cares... I remember reading an old axl interview where he said "sebastian bach is my favorite rockstar" their like brothers... Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: jimmythegent on October 15, 2006, 07:38:45 PM I really don't see the logic of having Sebastion Bach associated with this tour/relaunch. Axl (and band) should be associating with current, edgy bands (the Killers being a great example). Bach is so attached to that late 80's scene/sound that GNR managed to surpass back in the day. To hark back to that is very odd in my view. Great that Axl is doing an old buddy a favour and all - but in all seriousness, I think its time he focused less on favours and more on how the public is going to perceive this whole tour/relaunch. I can't fathom it. who gives a shit... I wouldnt want axl to sell out and take out trendy bands... So he wants to take someone who is probably his ONLY FRIEND on tour with him and do him a favor.. besides, MOST gnr fans like Skid Row, so who cares... I remember reading an old axl interview where he said "sebastian bach is my favorite rockstar" their like brothers... I commend what he is doing for a friend, but this is business and friendships must be put aside in order for it to be a success. Attaching himself to 'trendy' bands is not essential, but relevant and quality definitley. I consider bands like the Killers and Muse to be both these And I disagree that most GNR fans are Skid Row fans. Some are, for sure - but GNR had a much more far-reaching appeal that crossed genres. Skid Row are still very attached to an era and genre, where GNR transcended that and became 'classic'. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: axlroses on October 15, 2006, 07:48:53 PM Maybe bach isn't the way to go, but it is a hell of a lot better than mixmaster mike and cky.
Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: Axl&Baz07 on October 15, 2006, 07:50:56 PM i don't think it's just about 'helping a friend'. ?i wouldn't underestimate the Sebastian Bach fan base. ?and i'm not just talking about former Skid Row fans, either. ?SB has done a lot of TV shows, and he has a whole seperate fan base. ?plus he has an upcoming album, "Angel Down", so it makes sense for him to be touring with GN'R right now. (as he did in Europe, this summer)
you might be surprised... there are a lot of people who are going to the GN'R shows, just to see Sebastian Bach open for them!! ? :peace: Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: RancidPunx on October 15, 2006, 09:09:47 PM I hope they play The Threat, Youth Gone Wild, 18 and Life, I Remember You, Slave To The Grind, and Wasted Time :beer: see baz a bunch of times no chance of the threat, dont remember seeing skid row do it... last time i saw him in notts, uk it was something like slave big guns piece of me monkey business by your side-new song 18 & life i remember you here i am new song??-cant remember name youth gone wild wrong order & i think there was a couple more, sorry my memeory is a little hazy, bach was great though enjoy the show : ok: Actually , Brother the last time I saw Baz back in 99 (kick ass show by the way) we interviewed him for our College paper here in Buffalo,NY and asked if he would play the threat. Sure enough halfway into the set, "this ones for you mothertruckers, here is the THREAT!!!!" It was fucking great.sUBHMAN rACE kicks ass, and is a great CD. I think it sucks that from that CD he pretty much only plays "Frozen" I would love to hear, Beat Yourself Blind, My Enemy, FireSign and Into Another. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: RancidPunx on October 15, 2006, 09:13:39 PM I really don't see the logic of having Sebastion Bach associated with this tour/relaunch. Axl (and band) should be associating with current, edgy bands (the Killers being a great example). Bach is so attached to that late 80's scene/sound that GNR managed to surpass back in the day. To hark back to that is very odd in my view. Great that Axl is doing an old buddy a favour and all - but in all seriousness, I think its time he focused less on favours and more on how the public is going to perceive this whole tour/relaunch. I can't fathom it. who gives a shit... I wouldnt want axl to sell out and take out trendy bands... So he wants to take someone who is probably his ONLY FRIEND on tour with him and do him a favor.. besides, MOST gnr fans like Skid Row, so who cares... I remember reading an old axl interview where he said "sebastian bach is my favorite rockstar" their like brothers... I commend what he is doing for a friend, but this is business and friendships must be put aside in order for it to be a? success. Attaching himself to 'trendy' bands is not essential, but relevant and quality definitley. I consider bands like the Killers and Muse to be both these And I disagree that most GNR fans are Skid Row fans. Some are, for sure - but GNR had a much more far-reaching appeal that crossed genres. Skid Row are still very attached to an era and genre, where GNR transcended that and became 'classic'. I respectfully disagree. Slave to the Grind and Subhuman Race are heavier than anything in the GNR catalog. Skid Row had both Soundgarden and Pantera as openers. Now if I was a music fan and only heard I remember You, would I think these dudes were heavy? No way. However, lumping Skid Row in with Winger and what not is like saying GnR sounds like Warrant. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: jimmythegent on October 15, 2006, 09:27:19 PM I really don't see the logic of having Sebastion Bach associated with this tour/relaunch. Axl (and band) should be associating with current, edgy bands (the Killers being a great example). Bach is so attached to that late 80's scene/sound that GNR managed to surpass back in the day. To hark back to that is very odd in my view. Great that Axl is doing an old buddy a favour and all - but in all seriousness, I think its time he focused less on favours and more on how the public is going to perceive this whole tour/relaunch. I can't fathom it. who gives a shit... I wouldnt want axl to sell out and take out trendy bands... So he wants to take someone who is probably his ONLY FRIEND on tour with him and do him a favor.. besides, MOST gnr fans like Skid Row, so who cares... I remember reading an old axl interview where he said "sebastian bach is my favorite rockstar" their like brothers... I commend what he is doing for a friend, but this is business and friendships must be put aside in order for it to be a? success. Attaching himself to 'trendy' bands is not essential, but relevant and quality definitley. I consider bands like the Killers and Muse to be both these And I disagree that most GNR fans are Skid Row fans. Some are, for sure - but GNR had a much more far-reaching appeal that crossed genres. Skid Row are still very attached to an era and genre, where GNR transcended that and became 'classic'. I respectfully disagree. Slave to the Grind and Subhuman Race are heavier than anything in the GNR catalog. Skid Row had both Soundgarden and Pantera as openers. Now if I was a music fan and only heard I remember You, would I think these dudes were heavy? No way. However, lumping Skid Row in with Winger and what not is like saying GnR? sounds like Warrant. cool - I never new the mighty Soundgarden opened for Skid Row? my point had nothing to do with heaviness - just public perception I guess. Skid Row, whether warranted or not, in the wider public consciousness are either thought of as a late 80s "party" band or theyre forgotten altogether. I am talking the average man on the street here. Axl obviously wants to be taken seriously with this tour and album, so all Im saying is that I would not be touring with Seb Bach, Id be trying to get some edgy and relevant current bands playing with me, much like the Inland thing- just my opinion Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: guns_n_motley on October 15, 2006, 10:04:31 PM I really don't see the logic of having Sebastion Bach associated with this tour/relaunch. Axl (and band) should be associating with current, edgy bands (the Killers being a great example). Bach is so attached to that late 80's scene/sound that GNR managed to surpass back in the day. To hark back to that is very odd in my view. Great that Axl is doing an old buddy a favour and all - but in all seriousness, I think its time he focused less on favours and more on how the public is going to perceive this whole tour/relaunch. I can't fathom it. who gives a shit... I wouldnt want axl to sell out and take out trendy bands... So he wants to take someone who is probably his ONLY FRIEND on tour with him and do him a favor.. besides, MOST gnr fans like Skid Row, so who cares... I remember reading an old axl interview where he said "sebastian bach is my favorite rockstar" their like brothers... I commend what he is doing for a friend, but this is business and friendships must be put aside in order for it to be a? success. Attaching himself to 'trendy' bands is not essential, but relevant and quality definitley. I consider bands like the Killers and Muse to be both these And I disagree that most GNR fans are Skid Row fans. Some are, for sure - but GNR had a much more far-reaching appeal that crossed genres. Skid Row are still very attached to an era and genre, where GNR transcended that and became 'classic'. I respectfully disagree. Slave to the Grind and Subhuman Race are heavier than anything in the GNR catalog. Skid Row had both Soundgarden and Pantera as openers. Now if I was a music fan and only heard I remember You, would I think these dudes were heavy? No way. However, lumping Skid Row in with Winger and what not is like saying GnR? sounds like Warrant. cool - I never new the mighty Soundgarden opened for Skid Row? my point had nothing to do with heaviness - just public perception I guess. Skid Row, whether warranted or not, in the wider public consciousness are either thought of as a late 80s "party" band or theyre forgotten altogether. I am talking the average man on the street here. Axl obviously wants to be taken seriously with this tour and album, so all Im saying is that I would not be touring with Seb Bach, Id be trying to get some edgy and relevant current bands playing with me, much like the Inland thing- just my opinion but see, most times when an older band takes out some new acts its seen as being "trendy" to try and pull in a younger audience... Skid Rows music is alot closer to GNRs than say the killers(who I bet will open for gnr after papa roach). baz is having a renewed popularity recently.. with the whole VH1 supergroup show, and gilmore girls... he has a pretty big fanbase... I understand what your saying.. not by good or bad music, but by bringing people in the doors.. I know ALOT of people who are going to these shows JUST because bach is on the tour.. one of my friends said "usually id say fuck fake gnr, but with baz onboard i want to go" I dont think having a trendy band in baz place will turn more younger people onto gnr.. they either are into it or not from my experience(and me being 18 and all haha). I dont want 13year old girls in the front row only knowing gnrs singles(which sadly I got at VR after fall to peices was a big hit) Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: The Legend on October 15, 2006, 10:59:20 PM I really don't see the logic of having Sebastion Bach associated with this tour/relaunch. Axl (and band) should be associating with current, edgy bands (the Killers being a great example). Bach is so attached to that late 80's scene/sound that GNR managed to surpass back in the day. To hark back to that is very odd in my view. Great that Axl is doing an old buddy a favour and all - but in all seriousness, I think its time he focused less on favours and more on how the public is going to perceive this whole tour/relaunch. I can't fathom it. This is all wrong. Skid Row was ahead of their time in the late-80's/early-90's. Only their debut self-titled album, came across as 'hair' type. Slave & Subhuman were both in line with what Metallica was doing, although much more melodic. Title: Re: do you think sebastian bach will be on the 2nd leg GNR tour?? Post by: russtcb on October 16, 2006, 08:15:14 AM I really don't see the logic of having Sebastion Bach associated with this tour/relaunch. Axl (and band) should be associating with current, edgy bands (the Killers being a great example). Bach is so attached to that late 80's scene/sound that GNR managed to surpass back in the day. To hark back to that is very odd in my view. Great that Axl is doing an old buddy a favour and all - but in all seriousness, I think its time he focused less on favours and more on how the public is going to perceive this whole tour/relaunch. I can't fathom it. who gives a shit... I wouldnt want axl to sell out and take out trendy bands... So he wants to take someone who is probably his ONLY FRIEND on tour with him and do him a favor.. besides, MOST gnr fans like Skid Row, so who cares... I remember reading an old axl interview where he said "sebastian bach is my favorite rockstar" their like brothers... I commend what he is doing for a friend, but this is business and friendships must be put aside in order for it to be a success. Attaching himself to 'trendy' bands is not essential, but relevant and quality definitley. I consider bands like the Killers and Muse to be both these And I disagree that most GNR fans are Skid Row fans. Some are, for sure - but GNR had a much more far-reaching appeal that crossed genres. Skid Row are still very attached to an era and genre, where GNR transcended that and became 'classic'. I respectfully disagree. Slave to the Grind and Subhuman Race are heavier than anything in the GNR catalog. Skid Row had both Soundgarden and Pantera as openers. Now if I was a music fan and only heard I remember You, would I think these dudes were heavy? No way. However, lumping Skid Row in with Winger and what not is like saying GnR sounds like Warrant. cool - I never new the mighty Soundgarden opened for Skid Row? my point had nothing to do with heaviness - just public perception I guess. Skid Row, whether warranted or not, in the wider public consciousness are either thought of as a late 80s "party" band or theyre forgotten altogether. I am talking the average man on the street here. Axl obviously wants to be taken seriously with this tour and album, so all Im saying is that I would not be touring with Seb Bach, Id be trying to get some edgy and relevant current bands playing with me, much like the Inland thing- just my opinion but see, most times when an older band takes out some new acts its seen as being "trendy" to try and pull in a younger audience... Skid Rows music is alot closer to GNRs than say the killers(who I bet will open for gnr after papa roach). baz is having a renewed popularity recently.. with the whole VH1 supergroup show, and gilmore girls... he has a pretty big fanbase... I understand what your saying.. not by good or bad music, but by bringing people in the doors.. I know ALOT of people who are going to these shows JUST because bach is on the tour.. one of my friends said "usually id say fuck fake gnr, but with baz onboard i want to go" I dont think having a trendy band in baz place will turn more younger people onto gnr.. they either are into it or not from my experience(and me being 18 and all haha). I dont want 13year old girls in the front row only knowing gnrs singles(which sadly I got at VR after fall to peices was a big hit) I have several friends who feel the same way. Alot of people are forgetting that there is another band in between Bach and GNR as well. We don't know who's taking over after Papa Roach yet, but I'm sure it'll be Buckcherry or someone else in line with GNR. And I also have to agree with the above post and mention again that if nothing else, at least Bach ain't cky or Mix Master! |