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Title: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: AtariLegend on October 13, 2006, 05:21:45 PM
I was just wondering would the Snakepit albums be any better with Axl on vocals?


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: polluxlm on October 13, 2006, 07:04:36 PM
With Axl simply singing what words and melodies that's already there, naturally. He's got a better voice. That alone heightens the quality. If Axl had also been involved in the creative process, it could even have been a good album.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: snakepipero on October 13, 2006, 07:43:05 PM
 :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: polluxlm  :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
Do you really know Snakepit albums? Do you really know IFCS or ALG? I don't think so.
Stop to suck Axl Rose's dick please


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: AtariLegend on October 13, 2006, 07:44:15 PM
:hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: polluxlm :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
Do you really know Snakepit albums? Do you really know IFCS or ALG? I don't think so.
Stop to suck Axl Rose's dick please

What is that supposed to mean?


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: polluxlm on October 14, 2006, 12:48:38 AM
:hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: polluxlm? :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
Do you really know Snakepit albums? Do you really know IFCS or ALG? I don't think so.
Stop to suck Axl Rose's dick please

Unfortunately, yes I know them. It was sad to hear that such a great guitarplayer like Slash couldn't write a decent song without Axl there to steer him in the right direction.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Genesis on October 14, 2006, 02:20:38 AM
Unfortunately, yes I know them. It was sad to hear that such a great guitarplayer like Slash couldn't write a decent song without Axl there to steer him in the right direction.

Yeah, it's a damn shame. We could have been waiting for three albums now instead of one.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Mikkamakka on October 14, 2006, 02:33:11 AM
:hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: polluxlm? :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
Do you really know Snakepit albums? Do you really know IFCS or ALG? I don't think so.
Stop to suck Axl Rose's dick please

Unfortunately, yes I know them. It was sad to hear that such a great guitarplayer like Slash couldn't write a decent song without Axl there to steer him in the right direction.

Slash's music is better than any GN'R album minus AFD. With Axl singin' it'd have been phenomenal.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: AtariLegend on October 14, 2006, 07:04:13 AM
:hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: polluxlm  :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
Do you really know Snakepit albums? Do you really know IFCS or ALG? I don't think so.
Stop to suck Axl Rose's dick please

Unfortunately, yes I know them. It was sad to hear that such a great guitarplayer like Slash couldn't write a decent song without Axl there to steer him in the right direction.

Slash's music is better than any GN'R album minus AFD. With Axl singin' it'd have been phenomenal.

UYI 1+2


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Irish rose on October 14, 2006, 07:11:21 AM
The snakepit albums have some gr8 songs. I'll admit i didnt like the singer on the first album much, but the guitar work is great


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: TheMole on October 14, 2006, 08:41:29 AM
Yeah, I personaly like It's Five O' Clock Somewhere and Aint Life Grand better than UYI I & II, musically. Ofcourse they would've been miles better with Axl singing on them. And I even think Axl's creative influence would've made for a more edgier album, whereas now it's more bluesy. But it would've been better if Axl started massaging more of Slash's ideas in the Illusions era than the other way around, like it has been now.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 14, 2006, 02:43:30 PM
if axl sang the snakepit songs most of teh haters would have liked them.. They listen to a 30 second clip 5,000 times so


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: AtariLegend on October 14, 2006, 07:46:14 PM
Most of Slash's Snake Pit is ok, but it can get somwhat dull, it's like what Axl said, when he said Slash didn't like happy stuff like "Sweet Child"


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: November Rain 91 on October 24, 2006, 09:12:58 PM
i think it's five o'clock somewhere is a great cd, i like it better than alg even. there are some fucking awesome songs on those cds, so don't knock them. would they have been better with axl?.....it sure as hell wouldn't have made it any worse, but i think the singer on five oclock somewhere did a decent job


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: tomass74 on October 25, 2006, 07:49:49 AM
I think the first Snakepit record was good but would have been Excellent with Axl on there...

I didn't care for the second one too much. mostly because of Rod Jackson.. So I am sure Axl could have made it much better.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: gcluskey on November 14, 2006, 07:57:08 PM
Axl would sound awesome singing VR songs too


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Chris Axl on November 17, 2006, 02:57:38 AM
:hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: polluxlm? :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
Do you really know Snakepit albums? Do you really know IFCS or ALG? I don't think so.
Stop to suck Axl Rose's dick please

Unfortunately, yes I know them. It was sad to hear that such a great guitarplayer like Slash couldn't write a decent song without Axl there to steer him in the right direction.

Slash's music is better than any GN'R album minus AFD.
youre joking know right??



Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Mikkamakka on November 17, 2006, 03:17:54 AM
:hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: polluxlm? :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
Do you really know Snakepit albums? Do you really know IFCS or ALG? I don't think so.
Stop to suck Axl Rose's dick please

Unfortunately, yes I know them. It was sad to hear that such a great guitarplayer like Slash couldn't write a decent song without Axl there to steer him in the right direction.

Slash's music is better than any GN'R album minus AFD.
youre joking know right??



Not at all. Great riffs, great songs, great work between the guitarists. Powerful, worked-out songs and a great ballad. Only 1 or 2 fillers. A classic album, one of my favourites of all time. With Axl singing it could be my all-time favourite.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: JB9988 on November 17, 2006, 11:15:41 AM
:hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: polluxlm  :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:
Do you really know Snakepit albums? Do you really know IFCS or ALG? I don't think so.
Stop to suck Axl Rose's dick please

Unfortunately, yes I know them. It was sad to hear that such a great guitarplayer like Slash couldn't write a decent song without Axl there to steer him in the right direction.


Slash's music is better than any GN'R album minus AFD.
youre joking know right??



Not at all. Great riffs, great songs, great work between the guitarists. Powerful, worked-out songs and a great ballad. Only 1 or 2 fillers. A classic album, one of my favourites of all time. With Axl singing it could be my all-time favourite.
:confused: :confused: :o! You cant be serious that is not better then gnr music. UYI kills snakepit. And every cd that sucked if axl sang on them yes they would be better.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Mikkamakka on November 17, 2006, 02:08:54 PM
Have you heard the fuckin' album? Have you heard Neither Can I, Dime Store Rock, Beggars, Monkey Chow, Be the Ball, Back and Forth etc.? I can't believe that after all  you'd say these songs aren't flawless pieces of music. If you still keep saying that these tracks ain't have awesome music then I don't know what you loved in GN'R. Maybe the piano, lol.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Grouse on November 17, 2006, 02:19:16 PM
Have you heard the fuckin' album? Have you heard Neither Can I, Dime Store Rock, Beggars, Monkey Chow, Be the Ball, Back and Forth etc.? I can't believe that after all? you'd say these songs aren't flawless pieces of music. If you still keep saying that these tracks ain't have awesome music then I don't know what you loved in GN'R. Maybe the piano, lol.

Nah he has pretty much proven himself to be Axl's bitch  :yes:


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Sandinista on November 19, 2006, 08:11:23 PM
Rod Jackson was the perfect fit for the music on Ain't Life Grand, I don't think Axl is suited at all well to that type of heavy, aggressive music.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Hysteron on November 24, 2006, 01:57:13 AM
I don't think Axl is suited at all well to that type of heavy, aggressive music.

It wasn't that heavy or aggressive, well not more than AFD.



Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Krispy Kreme on November 26, 2006, 09:54:56 PM
Rod Jackson was the perfect fit for the music on Ain't Life Grand, I don't think Axl is suited at all well to that type of heavy, aggressive music.

What??? Axl personifies heavy, aggressive music. Axl can do it all-the hard  rock, the bluesy songs, the ballads, the heavy aggressive  stuff. Listen to My michelle, IRS, Better, Back off  bitch, YCBM, OTGM, etc etc.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Mikkamakka on November 27, 2006, 05:07:44 PM
I think Rod is an amazing singer, with great and skilled voice, but when I imagine what Axl could have done with songs like Ain't Life Grand, Back To The Moment or Serial Killer, it makes me... sad. That it didn't happen and never will.  :-\


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: TheMole on November 28, 2006, 02:42:38 AM
I think Rod is an amazing singer, with great and skilled voice

I dunno, I can't tell from the record, to be honest. He has a cool voice, but his melodies are very limited in range. Maybe he has a bigger range than he showcased on that album, but I can't tell from the record.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: micfac on November 29, 2006, 07:24:25 AM
rod jacksons vocals ruined aint life grand for me his style is dated and more suited to a 70's rock band - theres no doubting slash's guitar playing -his riffs and licks are as tight as ever  on these records as well as they are on contraband .i have no doubt axl's presence on any of them would have made them 10-20% better.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: mrlee on December 21, 2006, 10:20:31 AM
personally im finding its 5 o clock somewhere to be far better than aint life grand.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: oldgunsfan on December 21, 2006, 02:06:29 PM
I was just wondering would the Snakepit albums be any better with Axl on vocals?

is this a serious or rhetorical question, Axl vs whover sang?  Come on.... :hihi:


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: CheapJon on December 21, 2006, 02:16:23 PM
personally im finding its 5 o clock somewhere to be far better than aint life grand.

IMO is ALG far superior I5CS

love rods voice


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: DeN on December 21, 2006, 02:29:19 PM
Ain't Life Grand just sucks.

it's five o'clock was a good LP, with the last good ideas from Slash in terms of solos etc.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: CheapJon on December 21, 2006, 02:30:25 PM
Ain't Life Grand just sucks.

it's five o'clock was a good LP, with the last good ideas from Slash in terms of solos etc.

don't state your opinion as facts : ok:


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: SlashRock on December 21, 2006, 03:11:37 PM
Snakepit rocked! Especially 'ALG'- Pure down n' dirty blues rock? 8) Slash is a genius. I don't think Axl would have suited the 'ALG' album but who knows what he would've been like on 'It's Five O Clock Somewhere'. Personally I like the albums as they are.? : ok:


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: T_Roxie on December 21, 2006, 04:08:51 PM
personally im finding its 5 o clock somewhere to be far better than aint life grand.

IMO is ALG far superior I5CS

love rods voice
I totally agree.  Eric Dovers voice really starts to grate on I5CS, and the sound is quite bad too - could it be Mike Clink's production?  Despite the fact that Slash is awesome on it.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: DeN on December 21, 2006, 07:50:49 PM
Ain't Life Grand just sucks.

it's five o'clock was a good LP, with the last good ideas from Slash in terms of solos etc.

don't state your opinion as facts : ok:

it's a fact for me, i don't talk for my neighbor, when i say something it's my own point of view.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Grouse on December 21, 2006, 08:39:01 PM
Ain't Life Grand just sucks.

it's five o'clock was a good LP, with the last good ideas from Slash in terms of solos etc.


Have you ever even listend to any of his other solo work with other artists?

He has done some of hist best solos after the guns era...


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: GeraldFord on December 23, 2006, 01:14:32 PM
I think the first Snakepit record was good but would have been Excellent with Axl on there...

I didn't care for the second one too much. mostly because of Rod Jackson.. So I am sure Axl could have made it much better.

I like the first Snakepit album a lot too. But ALG sounds more like Slash's Whitesnake.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: luciano on December 23, 2006, 05:11:51 PM
*******

Rod Jackson ruined Ain't Life Grand.
I wish I could listen only to the instrumental versions of those songs.

*******


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Saikin on December 23, 2006, 11:17:13 PM
With Axl simply singing what words and melodies that's already there, naturally. He's got a better voice. That alone heightens the quality. If Axl had also been involved in the creative process, it could even have been a good album.

I agree.  I love the Snakepit albums.  The guitar work on there is great.  Then the vocals come in and it just ruins it for me. 


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: SADIS on December 24, 2006, 07:16:27 AM
Ain't Life Grand just sucks.

it's five o'clock was a good LP, with the last good ideas from Slash in terms of solos etc.

don't state your opinion as facts : ok:

it's a fact for me, i don't talk for my neighbor, when i say something it's my own point of view.

Yeah, and that's why you should say "I think Ain't Life Grand just sucks".


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Agno on December 25, 2006, 11:32:15 AM
Slash's snakepit owns!!!!!!!! Stop toalking bullshit.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: slash2001 on December 29, 2006, 05:45:07 AM
I thought the Snakepit albums were really poor, and I believe further proving the point that Axl was the more creative songwriter in GNR.  The Snakepit albums are a guitar workout for Slash, dont get me wrong I love the guy and his playing but can he write a song as gd as Axl?? Id say no.....Compare the best work from I5OCS say "Good to be alive" to anything written by Axl....November Rain, Estranged and more recently the Blues...do I need to carry on?? Great musicianship by Slash but Axl is the better songwriter. 
Saying that, the Snakepit albums would of sounded an awful lot better with Axl singin, and had Axl had a chance to write with Slash then they could of had a really good record.
Didnt I hear that Slash offered alot of songs from the 1st Snakepit record to Axl and Axl turned them down?? Think he said that he didnt want to do the whole "Blues-Rock" thing at that point?? Sure I read that here at some point over the years.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Smoking Guns on December 29, 2006, 12:30:39 PM
I thought the Snakepit albums were really poor, and I believe further proving the point that Axl was the more creative songwriter in GNR.? The Snakepit albums are a guitar workout for Slash, dont get me wrong I love the guy and his playing but can he write a song as gd as Axl?? Id say no.....Compare the best work from I5OCS say "Good to be alive" to anything written by Axl....November Rain, Estranged and more recently the Blues...do I need to carry on?? Great musicianship by Slash but Axl is the better songwriter.?
Saying that, the Snakepit albums would of sounded an awful lot better with Axl singin, and had Axl had a chance to write with Slash then they could of had a really good record.
Didnt I hear that Slash offered alot of songs from the 1st Snakepit record to Axl and Axl turned them down?? Think he said that he didnt want to do the whole "Blues-Rock" thing at that point?? Sure I read that here at some point over the years.

yes, then Axl got mad cause he used them on his solo album and Axl said there were some great ideas on there.


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Bodhi on December 29, 2006, 05:45:15 PM
yeah the songs would be better....but the record would have still sucked...the songs just arent very good.....they would have been in the same boat as Motley Crue after they released that self titled crap in 94....the smartest thing to do was stay away in the mid 90's and that is why GNR still has a good size audience today


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: Orgasmatron on January 01, 2007, 06:02:09 AM
The Snakepit cd's are good, but god the singer on 'It's 5 O'clock Somewhere' really grates... I mean, he does a great job living up to Axl's repotoir, but after awhile it just pisses me off!

Axl's singing never gets old for me, though... So yeah, to answer your question I reckon it would be!!


Title: Re: Slash's Snake Pit, with Axl
Post by: metallex78 on January 01, 2007, 06:59:27 AM
yeah the songs would be better....but the record would have still sucked...the songs just arent very good.....they would have been in the same boat as Motley Crue after they released that self titled crap in 94....the smartest thing to do was stay away in the mid 90's and that is why GNR still has a good size audience today

Well there you go, I happen to think that self-titled Motley album is their best album.