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Title: No one here gets out alive
Post by: November_Rain on October 12, 2006, 02:52:59 PM
I?m not very much of a Doors fan, you know..just the hits and all that but since a lot of people talked about this book I decided to read it. I?ve just finished it and it?s one of the best biographies I?ve ever read. I didn?t know Jim Morrison had been so misunderstood.
Have you read it?If not,read it, it?s very good.


Title: Re: No one here gets out alive
Post by: SuperMike on October 12, 2006, 03:02:25 PM
I got to check that out because I like The Doors a lot.


Title: Re: No one here gets out alive
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 12, 2006, 04:30:10 PM
Unfortunately a good deal of it is BS. It was written by Jim's manager Danny Sugerman and it was revealed after the book was published that he made up a LOT of stuff in it.


Title: Re: No one here gets out alive
Post by: November_Rain on October 13, 2006, 07:44:52 AM
Unfortunately a good deal of it is BS. It was written by Jim's manager Danny Sugerman and it was revealed after the book was published that he made up a LOT of stuff in it.
Really? I had no idea. I had heard very good critics and reviews from this book and people talked about it very good too and I was very vurious to read it. So, is there any other biography which is more accurate or are they all the same?


Title: Re: No one here gets out alive
Post by: Mama Kin on October 14, 2006, 02:18:51 AM
Depends which type of Morrison bio you wanna read.......I'd say, overall Jim Morrison by Stephan Davis would be the best.......Light my Fire my Ray Manzarek is good too, but I'm pretty sure Ray has a man-crush on Jim. Riders on the Storm by Densmore was good, but he seems a little bitter towards Jim. Wild Child my Life with and Without Jim Morrison by Patrica Kenealy-Morrison was pretty crappy, she's the one who Morrison married in the Wiccan ceremony. I read somewhere she's not sure if her whole experience with Jim actually happened or was the product of copious drug intake (it may have been the Davis book that stated this). The Lizard King by Jerry Hopkins is pretty good, basically a rehash of NHGOA, but with some ammendmants. The book has been in print for 20 years or so now and still does not see fit to correct several mistakes with dates in the text (such as a description of what Morrison did in 1987, some 16 years after he was  dead).

I've read a lot of Morrison bios and 95% of it is the same information. If you can get ahold of them, read them all and form your own opinion, if not, check out the one by Stephan Davis, it's the most in-depth one (though the first to suggest Morrison had homosexual tendancies)


Title: Re: No one here gets out alive
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 14, 2006, 02:25:05 AM
Depends which type of Morrison bio you wanna read.......I'd say, overall Jim Morrison by Stephan Davis would be the best.......Light my Fire my Ray Manzarek is good too, but I'm pretty sure Ray has a man-crush on Jim. Riders on the Storm by Densmore was good, but he seems a little bitter towards Jim. Wild Child my Life with and Without Jim Morrison by Patrica Kenealy-Morrison was pretty crappy, she's the one who Morrison married in the Wiccan ceremony. I read somewhere she's not sure if her whole experience with Jim actually happened or was the product of copious drug intake (it may have been the Davis book that stated this). The Lizard King by Jerry Hopkins is pretty good, basically a rehash of NHGOA, but with some ammendmants. The book has been in print for 20 years or so now and still does not see fit to correct several mistakes with dates in the text (such as a description of what Morrison did in 1987, some 16 years after he was  dead).

I've read a lot of Morrison bios and 95% of it is the same information. If you can get ahold of them, read them all and form your own opinion, if not, check out the one by Stephan Davis, it's the most in-depth one (though the first to suggest Morrison had homosexual tendancies)

The problem is ALL the Doors biographies are erroneous to an extent.

It's hard because the band is a myth at this point in time; there are so many mysteries and enigmas involved with that band. Krieger and co. never clarify anything and sometimes they contradict themselves, too (stuff Krieger said happened he later admitted never happened; they imply Morrison is still alive at times and at other times laugh off the idea; they're just doing it to keep the memory alive and promote their new band, Doors of the 20th Century).

Stephen Davis' book isn't any better than Sugerman's, in fact Sugerman's is better. The only thing I find interesting about Davis' is that he claimed Morrison experimented sexually with other men; I can totally believe this given Morrison's sexual liberty, his outlook on life, his actions and things he said and just the general nature of the man; plus, he was around when anything went basically.


Title: Re: No one here gets out alive
Post by: Dallo on October 25, 2007, 10:36:31 PM
The Davis book is to be avoided, as it has heaps of inaccuracies and blatant lies. "How can I sell this book? Hmm let's say Jim was bisexual, that'll get people buying it".

The best bio overall would be Break On Through, by far the best and most objective.

Kennealy's book Strange Days should be in the fiction section, another book to be avoided.

The best books written about the band include:

Riders on the Storm by John Densmore;
Light My Fire by Ray Manzarek; and
Feast of Friends and An Hour For Magic, both by Frank Lisciandro.

No One Here Gets Out Alive, according to Jim's friends and family, has very little of the true story.