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Title: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Chief on October 07, 2006, 01:22:21 AM
Just an interesting thing i found, they are #2 on all the bands on pollstar right now.  Seems to be a good sign for interest in the tour:

http://pollstar.com/news/top50.pl


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on October 07, 2006, 01:32:06 AM
Excellent find Chief!  They're in good company. :smoking:


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Eazy E on October 07, 2006, 02:01:15 AM
I don't think the list has been updated yet, because they were in the #2 spot last week.

Excellent find Chief! They're in good company. :smoking:

Top 6: The Who, Guns N' Roses, The Rolling Stones, Aerosmith/Motley Crue, Red Hot Chili Peppers & Pearl Jam.... 21st century bands really can't compare!


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: The Prez on October 07, 2006, 07:55:44 AM
What is that pollstar? On what is it based?

Anyhow: good that they are 2nd place...


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: smeagol2124 on October 07, 2006, 08:24:17 AM
POllstar is the #1 website for concert tours.  Great website for information on ticket sales, tour gross ($) etc.  I have settled many a bar bet there, premium access is a plus as well.  Most trusted source for tour information that there is.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: gandra on October 07, 2006, 08:29:31 AM
great news,gnr have abetter selling than red hot chilli pepers,and if you know this information that most of rhcp arenas show are soldout,we can make one decision:

Gner tour have a great selling


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: sic. on October 07, 2006, 10:00:33 AM
They were #1 on Pollstar four years ago (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=540), and I understand the ticket sales weren't ultimately that good.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: TAP on October 07, 2006, 10:03:26 AM
I think the chart positions are based on number of searches at the site not ticket sales.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: axl2 on October 07, 2006, 10:47:04 AM
They were #1 on Pollstar four years ago (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=540), and I understand the ticket sales weren't ultimately that good.


yeah but they had some good selling shows in most of the bigger spots. Toronto,Boston,NY,Philly ect..


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: smeagol2124 on October 07, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
I do think the one thing missing here is that most shows are selling BADLY in the US right now....


Example #1 Aerosmith/Motley Crue shows are selling at roughly 50-55% capacity
Example #2 The Who is selling at roughly 60-66% capacity.

The concert industry as a whole is having a terrible year, unless your name is Madonna or McCartney.  How does this relate to GNR?  It wouldn;t shock me in the least to see that some venues are half full.  It's really nothing to get too worried about from a $ standpoint, the promoter does ok still based on a cut of food/parking/etc, the band gets a guarentee up front, as well as merchandise sales.  All is good, even if the venue is not sold out.   Don't ever let anyone bullshit you by telling you otherwise.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Ak1nney on October 07, 2006, 11:08:00 AM
I think GNR needs to play some type of USA event. Like a football game or just something so that they can show America how much ass they kick.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: TAP on October 07, 2006, 11:56:09 AM
I do think the one thing missing here is that most shows are selling BADLY in the US right now....


Yeah, I think people have woken up to the fact that rock concerts aren't worth hundreds of dollars. I think a lot of blame lies with The Stones who priced prime tickets at $350 in 2002, and pyschologically people (including me) paid those prices because it felt like the last time. But they just came through the NYC market for the 5th time since 2002 at the same prices (or more in fact) and a lot of people can't/won't pay it. But in the process they dragged the prices up for a lot of rock acts trying to cash in before the bubble burst. If you'd told me in 1996 that the next GNR album wouldn't be out for another 10 years at which time I'd be paying $100 to see them, it would have sounded insane....but here we are :) But the bubble has just about burst....it will be interesting to see where it goes, will promoters admit defeat lower prices or will they rely on smaller audiences paying higher prices?


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Communist China on October 07, 2006, 12:01:53 PM
People are still starving for good music apparently. Not many new bands on the upper part of that list.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: gandra on October 07, 2006, 12:12:03 PM
I think the chart positions are based on number of searches at the site not ticket sales.

no,they count sellining tickets in a week

I think this is great position,because rhcp have a most soldout shows,so gnr is in front of them


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: jarmo on October 07, 2006, 12:57:55 PM
Looks like people are still intrested in the GN'R tour.  : ok:

The upcoming tour seems to be planned better than in 2002. The band has completed a successful tour in Europe and are playing many places they skipped in 2002.

Also, the New York area has two shows this time around instead of just one.

Looking forward to the tour. Less than two weeks to go. :D



/jarmo


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: axlrosehunny on October 07, 2006, 01:28:40 PM
This is much more of an "Smarter"  tour this year.

The tour through europe went great.

This smaller tour through Canada and the states is selling out good and should be fine.

Axl is the main draw for this tour, just shows the peoples interest in him and the power of the name Guns N Roses



Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Falcon on October 07, 2006, 01:40:25 PM
I do think the one thing missing here is that most shows are selling BADLY in the US right now....


Arena rock show have been out of vogue in the US for quite some time now, sold out tours in those type venues are few and far between these days.

For the most part, it looks as though GNR are doing fine with ticket sales.? If they hit 55-65% capacity for the entire tour that would be quite an accomplishment.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: sic. on October 07, 2006, 01:46:52 PM
They were #1 on Pollstar four years ago (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=540), and I understand the ticket sales weren't ultimately that good.

yeah but they had some good selling shows in most of the bigger spots. Toronto,Boston,NY,Philly ect..

You might just be right about that. They did in fact publish a press release called "Overwhelming Response For Guns N? Roses On Sales (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=528)" just two days after the tickets went on sale. MSG sold out, with Boston, Philly and Chicago (Rosemont) apparently doing "over 11,000 tickets" each.

Funny that, the 2002 tour could've in that sense been successful, as the population centers sold quite handsomely even then.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: stinson4ever on October 07, 2006, 01:54:38 PM
Wolfmothaa ;D


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: muffinass on October 07, 2006, 01:57:03 PM
wow...that's obvious good news...

  i'm wondering how the word gets around though. i've seen no ads whatsoever in any newspapers/magazines or posters (i live in Toronto).

    is word going around simply through word of mouth/radio/gossip-tv?



Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: ppbebe on October 07, 2006, 03:44:02 PM
Quote
is word going around simply through word of mouth/radio/gossip-tv?
Or the Internet of a mammoth dustbin?

jolly good news! 

Who the devil fussed about the tix sales, like they shouldn't tour without a new album, they should do this and that blah blah.. :hihi:
:-X I should mind about my tickets.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: axlrosehunny on October 07, 2006, 03:50:49 PM
wow...that's obvious good news...

 i'm wondering how the word gets around though. i've seen no ads whatsoever in any newspapers/magazines or posters (i live in Toronto).

 is word going around simply through word of mouth/radio/gossip-tv?



Here in Edmonton, they have taken out full page adds in the major papers.

Advertising on most radio...

No tv that I have seen, or posters around the city..

Radio and news papers should be enough


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: philspectorshotme on October 07, 2006, 06:20:54 PM
I think the chart positions are based on number of searches at the site not ticket sales.

no,they count sellining tickets in a week

are you sure?


(and on a side note - i think its a bit harsh blaming the stones for such shitty gnr ticket sales - and it is shitty considering we dont have one sell-out yet. i do accept that the concert going public has become disillusioned with concerts in general, but the mire of the gnr ticket sales is all axls own doing. they have nobody to blame except axls reputation. people are staying away cause theyre fed up with his past antics, not because the stones are charging $200 a ticket.)


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: gandra on October 07, 2006, 06:26:21 PM
ask they if you don't believe to me???
pollstar is something like billboard for albums sales

om www.billboard.biz you can find how many tickets gnr selling for each show,but you have to pay for registration or hacking site for username and pass


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: philspectorshotme on October 07, 2006, 06:30:29 PM
ask they if you don't believe to me???
pollstar is something like billboard for albums sales

thats cool. sorry if i insulted your intelligence or honour, i'd just never heard of the site before and found it hard to believe gnr tickets were outselling those of their competitors (though i guess its speed of sales rather than overall volume).


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: gandra on October 07, 2006, 06:32:34 PM
well this was for a last week
i think that rstones sold the most tickets for a first week


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: axl2 on October 07, 2006, 07:56:39 PM
if they are in the top there for a while though it means ticket sales is good and consistent


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: italysfinest1985 on October 09, 2006, 01:18:10 AM
What GnR fan doesnt enjoy the title of this little article???

http://www.antimusic.com/dayinrock/06/oct/09/11.shtml


 ;D


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: BangoSkank on October 09, 2006, 01:27:41 AM
FUCK. YES.

the stones are the most overrated band in history.  And if someone HAS to beat Guns N' Roses then the who is very acceptable.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Eazy E on October 09, 2006, 01:37:26 AM
They are so high up because it is the week after the tour was announced.  Means absolutely nothing really....


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: italysfinest1985 on October 09, 2006, 01:39:50 AM
They are so high up because it is the week after the tour was announced.? Means absolutely nothing really....

Whether it means something immense or not, I still enjoy reading the title of the article. Fuck yeah.  8)


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Eazy E on October 09, 2006, 01:41:47 AM
They are so high up because it is the week after the tour was announced.  Means absolutely nothing really....

Whether it means something immense or not, I still enjoy reading the title of the article. Fuck yeah. 8)

haha, ok, whatever floats your boat.  They didn't beat them at anything.... ?


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: italysfinest1985 on October 09, 2006, 01:46:29 AM
They are so high up because it is the week after the tour was announced.? Means absolutely nothing really....

Whether it means something immense or not, I still enjoy reading the title of the article. Fuck yeah. 8)

haha, ok, whatever floats your boat.? They didn't beat them at anything.... ?

Oh yes they did...ask the good folks at AntiMusic. LOL.
I know it's not really a big deal, just a cool read.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: dizzy68 on October 09, 2006, 02:49:59 AM

  Guns n Roses doesn't even come close to beating the legendary Stones. The original Stones have stayed together for 40 years. They've continued making new music the entire time and they don't take 15 years to put out a CD. I don't care what the article says. I know what I see with my own two eyes. Guns N Roses could have been the new Stones if they didn't have all the problems that totally screwed things up. Unfortunately they lost their footing and there is just no way to catch up to "STONES" status now. 


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: axleu on October 09, 2006, 03:10:34 AM
I don't give a damn about status, I don't give a damn about the "musically correct", I don't give a damn about The rolling stones and their long carreer, but I DO give a damn about Guns n' roses and their chaotic history! : ok:


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: nooz on October 09, 2006, 03:12:02 AM

? Guns n Roses doesn't even come close to beating the legendary Stones. The original Stones have stayed together for 40 years. They've continued making new music the entire time and they don't take 15 years to put out a CD. I don't care what the article says. I know what I see with my own two eyes. Guns N Roses could have been the new Stones if they didn't have all the problems that totally screwed things up. Unfortunately they lost their footing and there is just no way to catch up to "STONES" status now.?

Yeah I agree^^^ but it's not over till it's over.

I just saw Joe Perry, It will take three guitar players to keep up with the show he puts on. Steve sounded unbelievable as well. Missed Tom of course.

All solid bands on the list, it's good to be in good company.



Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: gandra on October 09, 2006, 04:17:02 AM

? Guns n Roses doesn't even come close to beating the legendary Stones. The original Stones have stayed together for 40 years. They've continued making new music the entire time and they don't take 15 years to put out a CD. I don't care what the article says. I know what I see with my own two eyes. Guns N Roses could have been the new Stones if they didn't have all the problems that totally screwed things up. Unfortunately they lost their footing and there is just no way to catch up to "STONES" status now.?

hey man where do you belong!!!
you're talking about status,and we are in rocknroll pages now!!!
Rolingstones were great and on of the best rocknroll bands ever but in 60-es and 70-es1
Rolinstones now is one big circus,and you haven't compare Gnr and rstones!
Why???
Gunsnroses was the biggest band in first part of 90-es.Now gnr haven't status like in 90's,but gnr now in 2006 have his atitude,style,bad asss and everything else and now Axl is synonim for real rock star...

what is jager now?
Ser?
yes,can you imagine one rock star with "ser" in front of name....

In usa Rstones will play for 100000 and more,gnr will play for 10000 and less,but on gnr show you'll find emotions and real rockandroll,on stones show you'll find circus 9only need elephant and monkey)

Man think about it


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: Longpig on October 09, 2006, 04:34:34 AM

? Guns n Roses doesn't even come close to beating the legendary Stones. The original Stones have stayed together for 40 years. They've continued making new music the entire time and they don't take 15 years to put out a CD. I don't care what the article says. I know what I see with my own two eyes. Guns N Roses could have been the new Stones if they didn't have all the problems that totally screwed things up. Unfortunately they lost their footing and there is just no way to catch up to "STONES" status now.?

Yeah but no one buys the stones' albums anymore.  Better to have one CD in 14 years that millions buy than one every 3 years that a few thousand buy (and play once).

LP


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: codenameninja on October 09, 2006, 04:35:28 AM
the stones are the most overrated band in history.? And if someone HAS to beat Guns N' Roses then the who is very acceptable.

Like any good band the Rolling Stones have some classic tracks, tracks that people will be playing until the end of time.? Just like people will be playing AFD until the end of time. The new Stones material is not so interesting. This happens to most bands, but how will CD compare to the classic Gn'R.



Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: melissa on October 09, 2006, 05:26:17 AM
The Rolling Stones and Guns N Roses happens to be my favorites bands. i don't want to choose between them. loving a band doesn't necessarily mean hating everything else.
GnR owe a lot to the Stones, you should count the covers, let's not forget 1989, keep in mind what was almost about to happen this summer.

i think they are friends, trying to create great music.

i'm glad that Axl & GnR are selling so many tickets. i hope they'll have a great tour and CD will be a great album

but let me listen to A Bigger Bang [4 1/2 stars from the Rolling Stone magazine, i'm hoping the same for Axl]while waiting for CD.

it is this year, after all



Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: The Legend on October 09, 2006, 05:50:24 AM
Aerosmith & Motley Crue combined could only make #4, and this is also behind a revamped GN'R.

Smith, Crue, I love you guys, but Smith you haven't rocked since the early-90's, and Crue, 'Feelgood' was your swan song.


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: madagas on October 09, 2006, 08:20:56 AM
Aerosmith hasn't rocked since.....1978! :-\


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: gandra on October 09, 2006, 08:51:59 AM
aerosmith is great band,and he is rocking now!!1
get a grip was one amazing album

btw it is great sucess for a gunsnroses,but we will see gnr position this week


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: gandra on October 09, 2006, 11:01:19 AM
well aerosmith and motley crue have a good tour,here is from billboard.com
band:aerosmith,motley crue

arena:Nikon at Jones Beach Theater
city: Wantagh, N.Y.
date: Sept. 17, 19, 2006
gross: $1,690,999
selling/capacity: 21,839 / 27,472

so gnr in front of them


Title: Re: GNR #2 on Pollstar
Post by: BangoSkank on October 10, 2006, 12:52:10 AM
the stones are the most overrated band in history.? And if someone HAS to beat Guns N' Roses then the who is very acceptable.

Like any good band the Rolling Stones have some classic tracks, tracks that people will be playing until the end of time.? Just like people will be playing AFD until the end of time. The new Stones material is not so interesting. This happens to most bands, but how will CD compare to the classic Gn'R.




i don't know, i'm still puzzled when people worship songs like "start me up" (or maybe it's called never stop).

but also, with the CD being compared to classic GNR, i laready think the leaked tracks are better than some old ones.  let's exclude sweet child o mine and jungle.  I mean "there was a time" already DESTROYS you're crazy and i'd rather listen to "better" than "my michelle."  So i think Chinese democracy is already pretty legendary... even if it sucks when it comes out.