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I keep hearing that AFD has sold 15 million in America but i've never found out its world wide sales figure. Does anybody know?

www.gnrinfo.tk is a good site for all that info.

afd was sold in 15 milions copies till 1988,but till 1998 it sold in more than 20 milions copies.i read that every week in usa 5000 copies of afd was sold.

No, its 15 million.

i heard 15 milions copies 1991,and you say that noone have bought afd from 1991?

Im saying that perhaps its possible that you heard wrong?

AFD was certified 15 times platinum in 1998.

From this very site...

"March 16th, 1999 - GN'R were presented with the new Diamond Award from the RIAA, commemorating the sales of 15 million copies of "Appetite For Destruction". The award was accepted in New York by Steven Adler."

Im sure AFD is up to atleast 1 8or 19 million by now.

It hasn't been certified after July 1998. It was certified for 15 million then.

I guess it's possible that it had sold three or four million in five years.


/jarmo

You mean in 5 years. 98-2003 is 5 years.

Well, it says "five years".  :nervous:

Wonder when RIAA will certify it again....



/jarmo

hopefully RIAA will certify it again and then we'll know how much it''s sold

I have no source of information, but my guess is that is has sold about 40 million copies worldwide.

yeah something like that..Geffen reported some years ago that worldwide number is 35 million copies..and AFD sells about half million copies every year + other GNR albums that number is around million copies/year worldwide

I think the reason they have not done another certification is because the RIAA does not initiate the certification process, the record label does. The label has to pay for each certification that is done. The fee is $350 dollars for each certification. So Geffen (who might make Axl pay for the certification) could continue to recertify the album for each extra million copies and spend $350 each time or they could wait a while (like they are doing) and recertify it when they feel the need (maybe at 20 million or after CD is released and they certify CD). That way they only have to spend $350 dollars once on AFD, because if multiple sales levels are simultaneously certified, only one audit certification fee is charged. I know it does not sound like spending $350 dollars is much...but if they spent $350 on certifications for 16,17,18,19 and 20 million or just waited for 20 million they would save $1400 dollars. That is just on one album for one artist. I am certain it has sold at least another million copies in the US....probably more like 2.5 to 3.5 million. From early 1995 to July of 1998 (3.5 years) it sold 2 million copies....I'm sure its regualr sales jumped during the Live Era release and during the tour last year...so it is possible it could be around 17 to 19 million as of now in the US. I am looking for the worldwide numbers right now and will post when I find them.

AFD was the third most sold hard rock album in Sweden last week  ;)

isn't it true that gn'r sold more than 15 millions copies of AFD in the us alone and that steven recieved a price for it in 1999? isn't it also true that the record has sold more than bon jovi's slippery when wet?

how much has appetite sold world wide all together now in 03?

how much did the uyi albums sell?

 :peace:

There are/were three threads on this somehwere

Appetite sold about 35 mill world wide and has been certified for 15 mill sales in the USA

Appetite seels 5,00 copies a week world wide

UYI 1 and 2 sold 32 million world wide, 7 mill each in the USA

Steven accepted the RIAA diamond award in 1999 commemorating the 10x Platinum certification of AFD.  And yes, it is certifed 15x Platinum.



Yes, that record has been certified at 12 million in the U.S.




I read that AFD still sells 5,000 a week in the U.S. alone.



To clarify, Izzy meant 32 million combined.   :)

thanks for the help! now my bon jovi friend can shut up!

 :smoking:

Well Bon Jovi have sold more albums than GNR......and fill stadiums even today..so don't expect ur Bon Jovi friend to be silenced that easily....

i know i know! but then again, bon jovi has released 11 albums i think, gn'r has only released.. well.. two, three four five... and gn'r are close to the total sales figures that bon jovi has reached... with half the amount of released albums.. now thats a good point isn't it?

 :peace:

Does anyone know how the riaa decides when to give a band a platinum award.  I think we all know for a fact that Appetite has sold more than 15 million albums in the US.  So how does this process work?

I for one cannot stand Allanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill being the highest debut album in history.  What an atrocity.

When an album sells or ships 500,000 copies, it is then considered platinum.  I don't know why this is because it is supposed to be a million.

Nope an album is certified GOLD with sales of 500,000

and album that sells 1 million is certified platinum

when an album sells 10 million it is certified diamond, Appettite has achieved diamond status

with all of them the record label has to pay for the plaque thing.....then its official

no actually.  yes, that is the way we all think of it, but it's not actually like that.  I know it is bizarre, but that's the truth.

So Izzy, Appetite has more than 15 million and all the record company has to do is pay for the plaques then the riaa will update it?

Appettite had sold 15 million in the US in 1999, the RIAA were paid off and Steven Adler collected the plaque thing.

Subsequently it may have sold another million or so but because Geffen/Interscope have to pay for it to be updated they will wait another few years so as to justify the expense.

I don't see why Axl just doesn pay for it.  I would think his ego would force him to buy it and put that stupid Alannis Morrisette in her place.  Because, I don't think Jagged Little Pill is outselling AFD.

Pateince! GNR will get Alannis Morrisette eventually! In the mean time just tell urself it was rigged in her favour and wait for the fateful day when GNR are certified with the highest selling debut album ever.....

what a day that will be!

Once GNR comes back into the mainstream, a whole new population of people are going to run out and buy Appetite.  It will have a huge boost.  I don't see anybody buying that Alanis Morrisete album or any thing that would make it start selling a ton.  she sucks, she always has, and her career is over. :hihi:

True, even if CD isn't a big success, AFD will get a good boost of sales from it.  I don't see Alannis having a second coming.  She is over.

How much do you think one of those platinum disks are?

http://www.metal-sludge.com/SludgeScansCareerTotals.htm

1. Metallica 44,339,994
2. Aerosmith 25,302,355
3. AC/DC 20,095,641
4. Guns N'Roses 18,692,707
5. Ozzy Osbourne  13,810,371
6. KISS 7,716,667
7. Motley Crue 6,894,092
8. Megadeth 6,873,227
9. Poison 4,541,197
10. Skid Row 3,098,218
11. Firehouse 2,881,561
12. Alice Cooper 2,745,300
13. Anthrax 2,476,577
14. Warrant 2,196,518
15. Slaughter 2,020,418
16. Cinderella 2,004,877
17. Great White 1,941,122
18. Whitesnake 1,784,470
19. Ratt 1,403,858
20. Dokken 1,176,762
21. Quiet Riot 1,056,702
22. Motorhead 768,014
23. LA Guns 713,838
24. White Lion 691,417
25. Trixter 609,264
26. Winger 601,898
27. W.A.S.P. 570,419
28. Twisted Sister 503,068
29. Faster Pussycat 336,195
30. Bulletboys 262,354
31. Danger Danger 217,407
32. Enuff Z'Nuff 176,087
33. Bang Tango 151,322
34. Love/Hate 100,655
35. Tuff 85,565
36. XYZ 79,971
37. Pretty Boy Floyd 27,628

It is interesting although it only includes bands that are favorites of that magazine.

I can except the extra 25,647,287 extra sales that Metallica have over GnR if all of those sales were of Kill Em All, Ride the Lightning, or Master of Puppets. Unfortunately most of it is probably "The Black Album", Load, Reload and St. Anger.

Pretty boy Floyd fucking Rock!!!!!!!!!!!! :smoking:

Only metal sales - that doesn't represent the big picture....

And Pretty Boy Floyd Sucks

It also appears that they have never heard of a little band called Iron Maiden.

is that just US sales?

aerosmith has sold more than 25 million records in the us but that was b4 the soundscan era i guess

where the fuck is bon jovi on that list? theyve sold 100 million worldwide and at least over 30 million in the US

That list seems totally inaccurate. I wouldn't trust that bs even if it showed you a bulls ass and called it home... Yes, I'm tired  :-[

These are the USA numbers since 1991-92.............i think it was like the very end of 1991 that they started soundscan.

soundscan is different than the RIAA (USA) numbers in that they do actually sales or the records where as RIAA numbers are what they ship out to the stores

for example Metallica's St. Anger is double platinum (2 million) and soundscan only show it sold like 1.5million...........meaning 500,000 are sitting in the shelves.

what metal sludge has here is pretty acurate. Remember Metallica has released a lot of material after the Black Album of 1991. Also Metallica did not really start selling a lot of albums until after 1991. So most of their score is here. Guns sold a lot of album prior to 1991. These are missing from the total. probably a good 10 million in sales prior to 1991 with AFD and Lies.

January 2004 Soundscan

1. Metallica 44,339,994
2. Aerosmith 25,302,355
3. AC/DC 20,095,641
4. Guns N'Roses 18,692,707
5. Ozzy Osbourne  13,810,371
6. KISS 7,716,667
7. Motley Crue 6,894,092
8. Megadeth 6,873,227
9. Poison 4,541,197
10. Skid Row 3,098,218
11. Firehouse 2,881,561
12. Alice Cooper 2,745,300
13. Anthrax 2,476,577
14. Warrant 2,196,518
15. Slaughter 2,020,418
16. Cinderella 2,004,877
17. Great White 1,941,122
18. Whitesnake 1,784,470
19. Ratt 1,403,858
20. Dokken 1,176,762
21. Quiet Riot 1,056,702
22. Motorhead 768,014
23. LA Guns 713,838
24. White Lion 691,417
25. Trixter 609,264
26. Winger 601,898
27. W.A.S.P. 570,419
28. Twisted Sister 503,068
29. Faster Pussycat 336,195
30. Bulletboys 262,354
31. Danger Danger 217,407
32. Enuff Z'Nuff 176,087
33. Bang Tango 151,322
34. Love/Hate 100,655
35. Tuff 85,565
36. XYZ 79,971
37. Pretty Boy Floyd 27,628

as far as Iron Maiden..not a huge seller in the USA. Just look at the RIAA numbers. Probably middle of the pack in this list. As was bands like the Scorpions from Germany.

This is kwel Guns........ are doing very well.......considering the silence..........look at all the noise Metallica, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Ozzy, and Kiss made throught the 90's.

actually very impressive.


5th

i pose the question again, where the fuck is bon jovi?

sucking Axl's dick

 :rofl:

Yeah, it's good to remember, when looking at Soundscan numbers on GnR, that 80% or more of Appetites album sales and a good chunk of Lies album sales, aren't there....

so this is correct list os American sales?..top 37..I have to wonder few things...where is Iron Maiden, Bon Jovi, Limp Bizkit etc...and all these popstars (Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey)..where are they? or is this somekind of list of rock/metal bands?

I hope i'm not stating the obvious but those numbers are only since 1991. They are accurate since 1991.

yes, it's been said..but still the list doesn't make any sense.

John, those are just metal acts. What does not make sense? Those other bands like Metallica-ac/dc-Aerosmith have catalogs three times the size of Gnr's-some even 4 times as large. It is impressive that Gnr is that high. Also, Riaa numbers are albums shipped, not actual sales in record stores like soundscan. RIAA numbers are still the most accurate in my opinion because someone bought the album-maybe not a consumer, but a wholesaler or the record store etc. Riaa us numbers for Gnr are 35.5 million and have not been updated in at least 4 years.

What an odd list......

So many groups missing

Bon Jovi, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Pantera, Slayer etc etc

Well done to Pretty Boy Floyd....real high sellers there....why are they even on the list?

Honestly...this is odd.

Please do yourselves a favor and go to the metal-sludge webpage.

metal-sludge is a webpage dedicated to the fall of metal//////hence metal sludge.

all the bands listed are favorites of the board...........some have been left off..................maybe due to the fact................the website owner does not like them


this is just a list.........................not a TOPS list.............but a list of band picked by one's preference.

-5th

thank for clarification. : ok: but still that list doesn't make sense..many high record seller band are missing..but well, if this is a legit info, I guess this is valid list  :(


edit. no way this is a valid list....

John-

The list is 100% legit.

It contains bands relevent to Metal Sludge.com only.

The list is hardly all inclusive of every metal act out there.

Thank you-I should have wrote SOME metal acts.

This isn't supposed to be the top selling metal acts of all time. It's just a list of bands that are relevant to their readers to show how well their fave bands did. They did leave off some bands but they probably just forgot them. Bands like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park would not be relevant to thier list so that's why they did not make it.

Does anyone know if cds bought from record clubs count?

I would think so GG, at some point in the purchase process, those CD's were surely scanned and accounted for.

There's a big diference between GNR and Metallica. The way I see it, this is why:

The following album sales figures may not be that accurate. I have no source to confirm them.

Metallica's black album sold 12 million. The album was released in 91. Prior to Black, Metallica had released 4 albums, none of them had sold much until then. Metallica had released Both loads, St anger, Garage inc and the San Francisco Orchestra album. That adds up to 10 albums, and I would say most of those sales 95%, came after 91.

In the mean time, AFD had sold before 91 around 10 million copies maybe? GNR Lies maybe 2 or 3. The illusions sold 7 million a piece and then we have TSI and Live era. There are 6 albums total. 4 less than metallica's and GNR biggest selling ablum is prior to 91.

Many fans who bought Metallica's black album, bought the first 4 after that ( I did) The follow up albums although crappy material, sold well.

GNR follow up to the illusions with a cover album ( sold 2 million same as Garage inc) and a live album 6 years later which didn't make a million.

In conclussion, had GNr released 2 more albums between TSI and live era, we would be reversing that list's order.

Wasn't it 91 or something when Metallica and GNR did the same tour? and Illusions world tour was 91 or something..GNR was really biggest in 90's, so the band sold loads of Appetite albums during the early 90's..of course they sold much when they released it, but it would thought that selling figures were also high during the early 90's.

Yeah i think it just US sales...Strange numbers..this can be bullshit also..

Btw this is US sales list from riaa,.com

BEATLES, THE
 165.5
 
PRESLEY, ELVIS
 117.5
 
LED ZEPPELIN
 106.0
 
BROOKS, GARTH
 105.0
 
EAGLES
 88.0
 
JOEL, BILLY
 78.5
 
PINK FLOYD
 73.5
 
STREISAND, BARBRA
 71.5
 
JOHN, ELTON
 67.5
 
ROLLING STONES, THE
 63.5
 
AEROSMITH
 63.5
 
AC/DC
 63.0
 
SPRINGSTEEN, BRUCE
 61.5
 
MADONNA
 60.0
 
JACKSON, MICHAEL
 58.5
 
METALLICA
 57.0
 
CAREY, MARIAH
 57.0
 
STRAIT, GEORGE
 54.5
 
HOUSTON, WHITNEY
 54.0
 
VAN HALEN
 50.5
 
ROGERS, KENNY
 50.5
 
DIAMOND, NEIL
 50.0
 
FLEETWOOD MAC
 48.5
 
KENNY G
 47.5
 
U2
 47.0
 
ALABAMA
 46.0
 
DION, CELINE
 45.5
 
SANTANA
 43.5
 
TWAIN, SHANIA
 42.0
 
JOURNEY
 40.0
 
NELSON, WILLIE
 39.0
 
CLAPTON, ERIC
 38.5
 
SIMON & GARFUNKEL
 37.5
 
CHICAGO
 37.0
 
SEGER, BOB/SILVER BULLET BAND
 37.0
 
PRINCE
 36.5
 
2 PAC
 36.5
 
FOREIGNER
 36.0
 
MC ENTIRE, REBA
 36.0
 
BACKSTREET BOYS
 36.0
 
GUNS 'N ROSES
 35.5
 
DYLAN, BOB
 34.5
 
JACKSON, ALAN
 33.5
 
DENVER, JOHN
 33.5
 
BON JOVI
 33.5
 
DEF LEPPARD
 32.0
 
STEWART, ROD
 32.0
 
COLLINS, PHIL
 32.0
 
RONSTADT, LINDA
 31.5
 
BOSTON
 31.0
 
QUEEN
 30.5
 
TAYLOR, JAMES
 30.5
 
DOORS, THE
 29.5
 
MATTHEWS, DAVE BAND
 29.0
 
DIXIE CHICKS
 28.5
 
PEARL JAM
 28.0
 
PETTY, TOM & THE HEARTBREAKERS
 28.0
 
KELLY, R.
 28.0
 
SPEARS, BRITNEY
 28.0
 
'N SYNC
 28.0
 
BOLTON, MICHAEL
 28.0
 
OSBOURNE, OZZY
 27.5
 
BOYZ II MEN
 27.0
 
MELLENCAMP, JOHN
 26.5
 
BEE GEES
 25.5
 
ZZ TOP
 25.0
 
MC CARTNEY, PAUL
 25.0
 
LYNYRD SKYNYRD
 25.0
 
SINATRA, FRANK
 25.0
 
RUSH
 24.0
 
MILLER, STEVE BAND
 24.0
 
MANILOW, BARRY
 24.0
 
CARPENTERS, THE
 24.0
 
NIRVANA
 24.0
 
JACKSON, JANET
 24.0
 
CARS, THE
 23.5
 
HILL, FAITH
 23.0
 
BROOKS & DUNN
 23.0
 
EARTH, WIND & FIRE
 23.0
 
MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER
 22.5
 
MOTLEY CRUE
 22.5
 
VANDROSS, LUTHER
 22.5
 
SADE
 22.5
 
GILL, VINCE
 22.5
 
CREED
 22.0
 
TLC
 22.0
 
ENYA
 22.0
 
MC GRAW, TIM
 22.0
 
CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL
 22.0
 
ESTEFAN, GLORIA
 22.0
 
POLICE, THE
 22.0
 
DOOBIE BROTHERS
 22.0
 
R.E.O. SPEEDWAGON
 21.5
 
GENESIS
 21.5
 
RICHIE, LIONEL
 21.0
 
BEASTIE BOYS
 21.0
 
MORISSETTE, ALANIS
 20.5
 
BUFFETT, JIMMY
 20.5
 
MEAT LOAF
 20.5
 
HEART
 20.5
 
WHO, THE
 20.0
 
BEACH BOYS, THE
 20.0
 
HOOTIE & THE BLOWFISH
 20.0
 
HENDRIX, JIMI
 20.0
 
EMINEM
 20.0
 
KISS
 19.0
 
R.E.M.
 19.0
 
BRAXTON, TONI
 19.0
 
WILLIAMS, HANK, JR.
 19.0
 
SMASHING PUMPKINS
 18.3
 
JAY-Z
 18.0
 
CROSBY, STILLS, NASH & YOUNG
 18.0
 
KID ROCK
 18.0
 
MATCHBOX TWENTY
 18.0
 
JEWEL
 17.5
 
MONKEES, THE
 17.5
 
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS
 17.5
 
STONE TEMPLE PILOTS
 17.5
 
TRAVIS, RANDY
 17.5
 
GRATEFUL DEAD
 17.0
 
RAITT, BONNIE
 17.0
 
ADAMS, BRYAN
 17.0
 
MATHIS, JOHNNY
 17.0
 
OUTKAST
 17.0
 
STYX
 16.5
 
GREEN DAY
 16.5
 
MARLEY, BOB & THE WAILERS
 16.5
 
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK
 16.5
 
BROWNE, JACKSON
 16.5
 
GRANT, AMY
 16.5
 
CASH, JOHNNY
 16.5
 
MC LACHLAN, SARAH
 16.5
 
YOUNG, NEIL
 16.5
 
HAMMER
 16.0
 
NOTORIOUS B.I.G.
 16.0
 
STING
 16.0
 
LIMP BIZKIT
 16.0
 
STEVENS, CAT
 15.5
 
JOPLIN, JANIS
 15.5
 
BAD COMPANY
 15.5
 
RIMES, LEANN
 15.5
 
DIRE STRAITS
 15.5
 
ISLEY BROTHERS
 15.5
 
KANSAS
 15.5
 
BLACK SABBATH
 15.0
 
BLIGE, MARY J.
 15.0
 
JENNINGS, WAYLON
 15.0
 
FOGELBERG, DAN
 15.0
 
MICHAEL, GEORGE
 15.0
 
NELLY
15.0

more soundscan numbers from metal-sludge.com

http://www.metal-sludge.com/SludgeScansCareerTotals.htm


remember these numbers are different than RIAA's because they are actual customer sales........this is what Billboard uses for it's top forty..........not RIAA numbers.

also these are numbers from when Soundscan started (june 1991)..............so for the thickheaded.........prior 1991 sales are not included.

these numbers are very acurate.

looks very nice for GNR...............since they have not released anything ...........really........post 93'.

/5th

Gnr would probally be #1 if they put out one album every 2 or 3 years since 1993.

I can't believe crap like 2 pac has sold more albums than Gn'R. Makes me SICK! Soundscan should have the Illusion albums at 14,000,000 total.

Yeah but "he/record company" have released much more records than GNR so...

*Yes I'm aware this has been done a million times before but please humour me*

1. I'm not looking for anyones educated guess I'm looking for an actual LINK to GnR's album by album sales from AFD-GH's.

Anyone who posts that would be much appreciated !!

Cheers !!

Guns n' Roses sold about 85 million records worldwide (with the greatest hits).

Appetite: 25 million (17 million just in the US)
Lies: 10 million
USI: 35 million both (I AND II, about 15 million both in the US)
TSI: 8 million
Live erea: 2 million
Greatest Hits: 4 million, but probably 7 or 8 million in 1 year.

Total sales: 84/85 million worldwide

That's ENORMOUS

Cheers bro BUT I'm really looking for a site or link to back it up.

I already knew myself i just wanted a solid link i can reference.  8)

Try http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-g/gunsnroses_main.htm
Keep in mind they exclude international sales & appears they are off on some of the albums like LIVE Era which went Platinum.

"McKagen and Slash were drunk and swearing when accepting an American Music Award (subsequent AMA shows now have a 5 second delay for television). The band won for Best Heavy Metal Album (Appetite For Destruction) and Best Heavy Metal Song ("Paradise City")."

Does anyone have the video of this or know where to find it ?!

No but it was FUCKING hilarious! I remember that! (My parents didn't think it was too funny though. Ass was still a bad word back then!) :rofl:

Are you sure with the appetite one?

I've read somewhere they've sold just over 20 million in the U.S

i dont see what this has to do with the thread topic, but i have the uncensored one on VHS but unfortunetly no way to transfer it to my PC

I know that AFD has sold like 40 million copies all over the world so far. Man that?s almost like Michael Jackson?s Thriller you know! If someone has the exact number I would appreciate it. But UYI I+II? And SI?

If you also know the number of copies that GNR opponents bands albums sold, especially Metallica, I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

Well, there's no way to find out how many copies GNR has sold worldwide. I'd venture to say GNR has sold around 80 million copies. In the States, around 40 million copies aprox. Here's the breakdown:

AFD 16 million
GNR Lies 6 Million
UYI 7 Million
UYII 7 Million
TSI 2 Million
Live Era + Greatest Hits 1.5 Million

Total of 39 Million copies more or less certified by the RIAA.

Edit: RIAA certified AFD sold 15 million back in 98. I added an extra million based on the sales AFD still gets every week.

Check RIAA.com and Billboard.com for album certifications.

Appetite for Destruction is rumoured to have sold 32 million copies worldwide. Here's an interestin' bit: From September of 1991 through July of 1993 Guns N' Roses sold 32 million copies of the Use Your Illusion albums worldwide. At the moment the latest info I know regarding the sales for the Illusion albums worldwide is this:

UYI I- 18 million copies
UYI II- 22 million copies

As for the other albums I'm not to sure of but the Greatest Hits album is about between 3x-6x platinum worldwide at the moment.

gnr sold 15 milion copies o afd till 1988,and 7 million copies of uyi1,2 till 1992,but after that they sold more and more copies(i got my first afd 1990,second 1994,and third 2000.i got my first uyi copy 1992,second 1993,third 1999,and 2003 i bought forth)

Im guessing somewhere between 85 and 105 million.

According to our friends at the Riaa Guns N Roses have sold 35 million copies of their various albums in America - not including the greatest hits

Afd has hit nearly 40 million world wide - Duff himself said Use Your Illusion had hit 32 million worldwide in 1992 - 10 million world wide for Lies (8 million in US alone), 3 million worldwide for TSI, maybe 1 million for Live era and about 2 million for GH

A total of about 85 million would seem a good bet

It would be interesting to see the best selling bands of all time per albums released or per years in activity. I bet GNR would be really on a really high place, cause it's incredible how a band that was in the  spotlight for a few years could build such a bit fanbase.

Look at hendrix he wasnt that big when alive, and after his death his fanbase only grew and grew.

Look at Nirvana. THey were only at the top for 3 years 91-94 before Kurt killed himself.  And Nirvana is considered the band that changed a generation and brought Grunge Rock.

Good Bands burn out (with good albums) while bands that fade away and keep putting out crappy albums dont hold the test of time.

Very true. To quote Def Leppard, "It's better to burn out than to fade away".

People r u sure about that AFD selling 40 million worldwide, if it's sold 16 million in the U.S 24 million from the rest of the world seems a bit much. It's nowhere near Michael Jackson's Thriller, i'd say 30 million tops

Let's start it again...  :rant:

Sorry to question it again (at least I posted it on Dead Horse), but can semeone tell exactly the number of albuns GNR sold worldwide, with a reliable source?

I was looking for the nembers, but couldn't find it.

Thanks.

G n'R's appetite for destruction has sold worldwide 35 million albums making it the 2nd best selling debut ever. It sold 15 million in the U.S alone

Lies sold 10 million worldwide because of the hit song ''Patience'' which the single alone went gold. It sold 5 million in the U.S

UYI's altogether sold 40 million because of the success of all their singles and a massive world tour that lasted 2 and half years.

SPI? sold together 2 million because it was a cover album and had no new original material on it. No tour. Went only Platinum in the U.S when it was expected to go double-platinum.

Live Era sold 2 million and went Gold in America.

Greatist Hits has sold four million in nearly a year. Went Platinum in America.

Chinese Democracy: Who knows?

Chinese Democracy downloaded x times maybe :hihi:

Where did you get the information for "TSI?" and Live Era? Source? And no, the Greatest Hits is closing in on 9 million total. (worldwide)

there's some sales info on the link listed below ... scroll most of the way down at that site

Really? Nine million? Fucking Hell. Live Era I searched on the internet and for SPI? I got the information from rockonthenet.com

Appetite sold 27 or 28 million copies. It hasn't reached 30 million yet.
Lies: 8 million
USI: 38 million copies both
spaghetti: 7 million
live erea: 2 million
GH: around 7 million copies

Total: around 84/85 million albums sold worldwide

in the futur: Chinese Democracy....maybe 15 or 20 million copies? why not...

SPI? did not sell 7 million.

Here is the corect list:

AFD: 38 million sold
LIES: 10 million sold
USI *altogether*: 40 million
SPI?: 3 million maximum
LE: 2 million sold
GH: 7 million

Well, I know how to easily find domestic sales. I was just talking about sales internationally particularly about those two albums. I still haven't found those figures yet. (worldwide) Oh well.... :-\ :yes:

Question: How come when i read album sales lists, AFD is shown to have sold millions more than Boston's Debut yet Boston's debut is regarded as the best selling debut ever.

Boston's has sold around 16 million, i can quote the guiness world records for that as well. Yet AFD has surpassed 20 million and prolly hovers around 26 million.

Why is it not regarded as the highest seller?

They're talking about US sales only?



/jarmo

Nope they all say worldwide sales.

Well It might be true.. that BON JOVI still fills stadium, and even that he has sold more albums than GNRoses, but The fact is that, Guns N Roses is a better band, better musicians, better  ,music, and more recognized than Bon Jovi, so, taking the quote  of my friend Axl Rose... Bon Jovi can Suck my... "?$ ?$"  you know it boys...

Bon Jovi altogether has sold around 60 million albums altogether. Slippery When Wet sold 24 million. Appetite for Destruction has sold 37 million.

i think bj has sold 100 million now.... hence the box set release.

King of Pop has five of the top 100 best selling albums of all time
Wednesday, October 22, 2003

According to the Recording Industry Association of America, Michael Jackson's Thriller - with worldwide sales exceeding 54 million copies - is the biggest selling album ever.

Even more incredible, is the the fact that four other King of Pop albums have made it to the 100 worldwide best seller list. They are: Bad and Dangerous at No. 21 and 23, both with 27 million copies sold; HIStory at No. 70 with 17 million double albums sold and Off The Wall at No. 77 with 16 million copies sold.

(rank, estimated world sales in millions, RIAA Certified Platinum level,
Soundscan sales 1991-now (if known), TITLE, Artist (year).


001 54 26 00.0 THRILLER Michael Jackson (1983)
002 42 19 00.0 BACK IN BLACK AC/DC (1980)
003 41 27 00.0 GREATEST HITS 1971-75 The Eagles (1976)
004 40 15 00.0 SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER Soundtrack (1978)
005 37 17 11.7 THE BODYGUARD Soundtrack (1992)
006 37 14 00.0 BAT OUT OF HELL Meat Loaf (1978)
007 35 15 06.3 THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON Pink Floyd (1973)
008 35 19 14.5 COME ON OVER Shania Twain (1997)
009 32 11 02.8 SGT.PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND The Beatles (1967)
010 32 11 00.0 DIRTY DANCING Soundtrack (1987)
011 30 22 00.0 LED ZEPPELIN IV Led Zeppelin (1971)
012 30 19 00.0 RUMOURS Fleetwood Mac (1977)
013 30 13 12.0 MILLENNIUM Backstreet Boys (1999)
014 30 10 09.2 LET'S TALK ABOUT LOVE Celine Dion (1997)
015 29 12 02.6 ABBEY ROAD The Beatles (1969)
016 29 11 10.5 FALLING INTO YOU Celine Dion (1996)
017 29 11 10.0 TITANIC Soundtrack (1998)
018 28 16 14.1 JAGGED LITTLE PILL Alanis Morissette (1995)
019 27 10 07.1 MUSIC BOX Mariah Carey (1993)
020 27 08 08.9 1 The Beatles (2000)
021 27 08 06.2 BAD Michael Jackson (1987)
022 27 08 04.6 GREASE Soundtrack (1978)
023 27 07 05.8 DANGEROUS Michael Jackson (1991)
024 26 16 00.0 HOTEL CALIFORNIA The Eagles (1976)
025 25 15 02.1 APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION Guns & Roses (1988)
026 25 14 11.2 SUPERNATURAL Santana (1999)
027 25 14 10.0 BACKSTREET BOYS Backstreet Boys (1998)
028 25 09 00.0 BROTHERS IN ARMS Dire Straits (1985)
029 25 08 00.0 BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER Simon & Garfunkel (1970)
030 24 15 00.0 BORN IN THE USA Bruce Springsteen (1984)
031 24 13 10.4 ... BABY ONE MORE TIME Britney Spears (1999)
032 24 12 00.0 SLIPPERY WHEN WET Bon Jovi (1986)
033 23 12 00.0 WHITNEY HOUSTON Whitney Houston (1985)
034 23 10 04.8 THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION Madonna (1990)
035 23 07 07.3 SPICE Spice Girls (1996)
036 23 06 05.0 GOLD - GREATEST HITS Abba (1992)
037 22 13 13.3 METALLICA Metallica (1991)
038 22 12 00.0 TAPESTRY Carole King (1971)
039 22 10 07.5 DAYDREAM Mariah Carey (1995)
040 22 10 00.0 CAN'T SLOW DOWN Lionel Richie (1983)
041 22 07 00.0 TRUE BLUE Madonna (1986)
042 21 13 00.0 GREATEST HITS Simon & Garfunkel (1972)
043 21 09 04.9 THE SIGN/HAPPY NATION Ace Of Base (1994)
044 21 08 00.0 SOUND OF MUSIC Soundtrack (1965)
045 20 11 00.0 THE WALL Pink Floyd (1979)
046 20 10 00.0 PLEASE HAMMER DON'T HURT 'EM MC Hammer (1990)
047 20 10 00.0 LIKE A VIRGIN Madonna (1984)
048 20 08 01.8 1967-1970 The Beatles (1973)
049 20 07 06.9 RICKY MARTIN Ricky Martin (1999)
050 20 00 00.0 SPIRITS HAVING FLOWN The Bee Gees (1979)
051 20 16 00.0 GREATEST HITS Elton John (1974) *
052 19 09 08.9 OOPS! ...I DID IT AGAIN Britney Spears (2000)
053 19 09 00.0 WHITNEY Whitney Houston (1987)
054 19 07 01.6 1962-1966 The Beatles (1973)
055 18 16 00.0 BOSTON Boston (1976)
056 18 13 00.0 PURPLE RAIN Prince (1984)
057 18 12 07.5 THE WOMAN IN ME Shania Twain (1995)
058 18 10 02.2 THE BEATLES (WHITE ALBUM) The Beatles (1968)
059 18 10 01.0 THE JOSHUA TREE U2 (1987)
060 18 06 06.1 ALL THE WAY...A DECADE OF SONG Celine Dion (1999)
061 18 06 05.4 THE SCORE Fugees (1996)
062 18 04 03.5 (WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY Oasis (1995)
063 18 04 00.0 BREAKFAST IN AMERICA Supertramp (1979)
064 17 16 10.0 CRACKED REAR VIEW Hootie & The Blowfish (1995)
065 17 12 01.9 HYSTERIA Def Leppard (1987)
066 17 09 04.8 MARIAH CAREY Mariah Carey (1990)
067 17 08 08.9 THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP Eminem (2000)
068 17 06 00.0 COMES ALIVE Peter Frampton (1976)
069 17 04 04.3 SPICE WORLD Spice Girls (1997)
070 17 04 02.5 HISTORY Michael Jackson (1995)
071 17 02 03.4 ROMANZA Andrea Bocelli (1997)
072 16 16 08.8 NO FENCES Garth Brooks (1991)
073 16 11 11.0 NO STRINGS ATTACHED 'N Sync (2000)
074 16 10 07.3 UNPLUGGED Eric Clapton (1992)
075 16 10 00.0 FAITH George Michael (1987)
076 16 07 05.2 USE YOUR ILLUSION I Guns & Roses (1991)
077 16 07 00.0 OFF THE WALL Michael Jackson (1979)
078 16 06 06.7 JANET. Janet Jackson (1993)
079 16 05 03.6 BUTTERFLY Mariah Carey (1997)
080 16 00 00.0 TUBULAR BELLS Mike Oldfield (1973)
081 16 00 00.0 MERRY CHRISTMAS Mariah Carey (1994)
082 15 08 08.4 THE EMINEM SHOW Eminem (2002) *
083 15 01 03.5 GREATEST HITS Queen (1981)
084 15 12 07.7 YOURSELF OR SOMEONE LIKE YOU Matchbox 20 (1997)
085 15 12 00.0 NO JACKET REQUIRED Phil Collins (1985)
086 15 12 00.0 II Led Zeppelin (1969)
087 15 12 00.0 GREATEST HITS Kenny Rogers (1980)
088 15 10 07.2 LEGEND Bob Marley & The Wailers (1984)
089 15 10 00.0 GREATEST HITS VOL.2 The Eagles (1982)
090 15 10 00.0 GREATEST HITS VOL.1& 2 Billy Joel (1985)
091 15 08 07.8 TRAGIC KINGDOM No Doubt (1996)
092 15 08 07.5 THE LION KING Soundtrack (1994)
093 15 08 05.0 ACHTUNG BABY U2 (1991)
094 15 08 00.0 PHYSICAL GRAFITTI Led Zeppelin (1975)
095 15 07 06.1 THE MISEDUCATION OF LAURYN HILL Lauryn Hill (1998)
096 15 07 05.3 USE YOUR ILLUSION II Guns & Roses (1991)
097 15 07 00.0 TO THE EXTREME Vanilla Ice (1990)
098 15 06 04.2 THE COLOUR OF MY LOVE Celine Dion (1994)
099 15 05 03.9 BAT OUT OF HELL II - BACK INTO HELL Meat Loaf (1993)
100 15 04 03.7 RAY OF LIGHT Madonna (1998)


http://www.mjni.com/news/details.aspx?ArticleNo=508

I tryed searching for this already but cant get NE thing. And I've seen it on here many times but again, how man albums does Appetite sell a week? I remember reading that like a few years back it sold 2000 + a week? Or was it 4000? Help.

It has sold 9000 per week since 1988, the album has sold 37 million and sells about 500,000 each year since the last single, next year it would have sold 38 million.

Does anybody know if any rock band has had their first album sell as many copies as Appettite for Destruction  did?

i heard that 2....  :)

Cream's debut sold 35 million, but GNR are still ahead by 3 million copies, also no one buys Cream albums anymore.

Believe it or not, Hootie and the Blowfish's first album beat AFD as the top selling debut album of all time. But that was in the late 90's. That might not be the case today.

Maybe Axl will be in the new BK commercial and promote the new chicken bacon ranch along with Chineese Democracy :drool:

 :drool: Chicken and Chinese Democracy  :drool:

Anyone know the updated figures on all of GNR's album sales? I'am intrested in AFD, Lies, UYI 1, UUI 2, and GH mostly.

total sales = around 85 million records worldwide (Greatest Hits included)

World wide album sales are virtually impossible to track, any source for that?

Supposedly, Barry Manilow has sold over 100 million records worldwide. If thats the case, maybe GNR has sold 500 million. :hihi:

I've yet to see any sort of accurate "worldwide" sales barometer, it's basically throwing a number on the proverbial wall and seeing if it sticks.

I actually bet Manilow has probably outsold GNR...

And James, love the Justine Frischmann avatar, giddyup.

Well, I dont believe worldwide sales totals either. It would be a hard statistic to keep track of. I cant picture Manilow selling that many, because none of his albums are on any top albums lists. By the way, thanks for the compliment on the avatar. You've got great taste. :beer:

Company's like Nilsen SoundScan can give you an insight on American and possibly European sales, but it I'll cost you...

worldwide sales are estimated at more than ninety million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_N'_Roses

Albums
 
Appetite for Destruction cover.Year Album US UK US Sales RIAA Certification
1986 Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide (EP)                          10,000 -
1987 Appetite for Destruction                                 18,000,000 15x Platinum
1988 G N' R Lies (EP)                                               5,000,000 5x Platinum
1991 Use Your Illusion I                                           5,355,985 7x Platinum
1991 Use Your Illusion II                                         5,435,447 7x Platinum
1993 The Spaghetti Incident?                                 1,290,849 Platinum
1998 Use Your Illusion                                            430,912 -
1999 Live Era: '87-'93                                             729,370 Gold
2004 Greatest Hits                                                  2,419,000 2x Platinum

All sales reflect US numbers only; worldwide sales are estimated at more than ninety million.

Thanks DQ those numbers are amazing.. Imagine if TSI or LE sold good :o

Oh I agree - I think that all the albums sold well considering...   :yes:  : ok:

this one always striked me. it was always said gnr sold "over 85 million records" but after GH which sold over 5 million, this was still said......

well  i don`t really care about their album sales either

Thx for that Drama, however, there are a few figures in there that don't make sense.

How como UYI % II sold 5 + million copies but are marked as 7 times platinium? Doesn't that supposed to mean that those albums sold at least 7 million copies a piece?

Oh, the AFD numbers are simply amazing. 18 million already? :o



Isn't that the singer from Elastica?

Yes it is.

Well - as you can tell by the reference i clearly put - I got the figures off Wikipedia.  :-\  I was just answering the question with the answer that I had at hand

actually i think they sold 7 million a piece...

Look at the statement I put on there:

RIAA certifications are based on storewide shipments only. Some albums have yet to be re-certified again, thus making their current certification outdated.

Oh btw, I was the one that supplied that information to Wikipedia. Some certifications won't make sense with their true sales numbers because of over certified/over shipped products (the Illusions) and outdated certifications (Appetite). Like said before, the RIAA bases their certifications on shipments while Soundscan bases their numbers with actual over-the-counter sales. The RIAA is not always up to date with certifications. Actually this is often the case with older albums.

Can anyone dig up what sales were, per album in 2005?

Yeh but when she had her five minutes of fame in the nineties she had a fucking moustache and dated that dick Damon Albarn!

Also, the Live Era CD has gone plat.  I saw it in a article recently.

Well, I dont remember the mustache thing, and I dont care anything about who she fucked in the 90's. Wasn't she a pretty big star back then in Europe? Here in the U.S., she didn't have very much exposure, so I never got to hear much about her. Believe it or not, she was in a slightly similar situation as Axl, but fucked it up big time. After the first album, there was alot of pressure on her to do the follow up. A few years went by, and she got sick of the pressure and quickly released  the album The Menace. It didnt sell much, and the band quickly imploded. Once, someone at an Elastica forum told me she became a heroin addict not long after that. :crying: Maybe if she had waited longer and not rushed that second album, things would be different for her. : ok:

This is current, as of now.

I could not find a previous topic, you to those that looked for one after reading this, tough lol.

Remember this is only United States sales, which is the mainstream market. No foreign sales here.

A.F.D - 15 million
Lies - 5 million
UYI1- 7 million
UYI2- 7 million
SPA - 1 million
Live Era - 600,000
GH - 2 million

They had several singles that went gold such as November Rain, Don't Cry, You Could Be Mine.

The Tokyo video did go Gold and Welcome to the Videos on DVD has went x2 Platium (2 million)

I would say that SPA is close to 2 million. It was certified that Jan. of 1994, so you can assume that in 12 years you can get another 1 million right? I would say it's close to 2 million.

Anyways... very impressive numbers. They rank #36 ALLTIME in the U.S. in sales by albums.

I'd like to know numbers of all sales, at least in whole America, Japan and Europe

That's pretty good with only 7 albums (including a live-album and a collection)  :o Here's just a random fact from the HTGTHs front page:

"Appetite For Destruction still sells around 5000 copies per week in the USA."

I'm not sure how accurate it is.

I thought Appetite was more around 20 million.

That is not accurate at all...

Maybe that many in a month, not in a week. When Institute came out, they sold 12,000 albums in their debut and hit a #88 spot on the charts. It AFD sold that many per week, then they would be in the Billboard 200 consistently all the time. They aren't. It sells at least 1-2,000 a week I would say. 5,000 no. I just don't think so.

The greatest hits banks in close to 10,000 a week still.

Peace

GH has soold 2,77 million records as of yet

No its 15 million, that's to date in the U.S.

It could be right now 15,789,232 albums but until they get to 16,000,000 you count it as "15 Million" or "Diamond" in this case.

15 Million is very very very good.

I know its really really good. But wasnt that 15 milion figure from 1999? I'm sure they've sold at least a couple more million since then.

I've read somewhere AFD sells about 200000 copies a year.

My guess would be take the US sales and double it. which seems to give a good estimation of what it did Worldwide.

I apologize if this has been previously posted but I found it quite interesting so I thought that I would share it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_N'_Roses#Discography
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_N'_Roses
 
Discography
Albums
 
 
Appetite for Destruction cover.
Year   Album   US
UK
US Sales   RIAA Certification
1986
Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide (EP)
-   -   10,000   -
1987
Appetite for Destruction
1   5   18,000,000   15x Platinum
1988
G N' R Lies (EP)
2   22   5,000,000   5x Platinum
1991
Use Your Illusion I
2   2   5,355,985   7x Platinum
1991
Use Your Illusion II
1   1   5,435,447   7x Platinum
1993
The Spaghetti Incident?
4   2   1,290,849   Platinum
1998
Use Your Illusion
-   -   430,912   -
1999
Live Era: '87-'93
45   45   729,370   Gold
2004
Greatest Hits
3   1   2,419,000   2x Platinum
TBA
Chinese Democracy
-   -   -   -
All sales reflect US numbers only; worldwide sales are estimated at more than ninety million.
RIAA certifications are based on storewide shipments only. Some albums have yet to be re-certified again, thus making their current certification outdated.
 

 :o thats alot of records!

those numbers aren`t quite right i`d say....

How so? (They're the U.S. sales Only & they're from Music Stores only so they don't include Columbia House, BMG... )

As soon as a mod see's this it's going straight to Dead Horse, like it did when someone else posted it the other day  :hihi:

what is the comparison of the states vs overseas

... once I read (I don' remember where) that UYI I & II sold in their first day more than 1 million copies, which made them the fastest seller in one day..... that would be like 500 K each........ I don't know if that's true, or if there's a source for that.... I don't even know if they appear in #1 Billboard charts when they were released......... any comment about this?........

Thanks!

Oh well... we know that they don't have much else better to do.  :hihi:

Hey gang !!

Noob alert.

I was wondering if someone might be able to help

I am curious about specific sales for AFD.

I am curious about cassette sales vs cd.

More specifically, a breakdown of those sales over the time frame between 1987-1990.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Edit - North American sales, of course.

Thank you.

theyv sold more than a few  ::)

Gilby Clarke was the guitarist for the iconic rock band, Guns N' Roses (90 million albums sold), traveling on their legendary and infamous three-year "Use Your Illusion" world tour. He also worked with Michael Jackson, Lenny Kravitz, Jeff Beck, MC5 and on the Freddy Mercury Tribute Concert. He was a recipient of the MTV Video Vanguard Award.


http://rockstar.msn.com/rockstar/supernova   (scroll down for artist description thingie...)

its says 90 mill?! wich doesnt match what the other posts here say...

just wanted to share...

              Rolling Stone Magazine had a list of the top 500 albums of all time and thier sales . From that issue I do remember some of what it was:

AFD: 20 Million

G'n'R Lies : 8 Million

Use your Illusion 1 :  7 Million

Use your Illusion 2 :  7 Million

Spaghetti Incident:  800,000


                                           Of course its hard to really get numbers on this type of thing. The Eagles and thier fans claim that Greatest Hits II is the greatest selling worldwide album ever , but Beatles #1 as newspapers claimed ..broke sales records in a lotta countries and went to 1 almost everywhere. Its been said that album sold over 25 million .

                                              Its just hard to count this type of thing. Lets just say that...Guns n Roses can still move albums and its proof with a Greatest Hits package from a band thats been in-active for years can outsell most bands now who issue Greatest Hits packages.