Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I didn't know anything about this until I got the X-Men: The Last Stand DVD and there's a preview for it on there... coming July 27th, 2007.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462538/

I hope Groening is the one pulling strings on that one, not the monkeys who are currently vomiting new Simpsons episodes out.
Can't wait to see the movie. Simpsons was once utterly fucking brilliant gem of uhh brilliancy.

I was gonna start a thread but than searched and saw this one, so I dont know if this has been posted yet but now we have the teaser trailer and trailer for the simpsons movie. Though they dont reveal anything about the movie itself, well nothing substantial anyway, they are quite funny. I love the simpsons and I hope this movie is great, which I have a feeling it will be. So without further ado, heres the link to the trailer at apple? :smoking:? ? ? ?


http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/thesimpsonsmovie/teaser/

Few trailers/teasers/whatever the heck they are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIEfEtUklew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLcQLFrxhE0

Saw this other day, new trailer, looks pretty damn good
http://divx.stage6.com/Trailer-Park/video/1128923/The-Simpsons-Movie-trailer
I like the bit '14 Years in the making'  :hihi: they got The Simpsons movie out before CD

I've already been told, by a film reviewer friend of mine, to keep July 20th open....he's going to the review screening and taking me along.

I'll let you know what I think, but from everything I've read and heard....I expect it's going to be awesome!

i can't wait as soon as it comes out i'm going to go see it, hell i'll be first in line :yes:

400+ episodes and counting the simpsons will never die :beer:

This has potential to beat Titanic in boxoffice. I mean who does not know AND love The Simpsons??? Even if the recent seasons haven't been so great, nothing can take away the 10+ seasons of pure gold that we've had  :beer:

oh c'mon!

Where have u been for the last 10 years?

The writers have managed an incredible run of horrendous episode after horrendous episode. How on earth could they suddenly reverse the rot after all this time?

The Simpsons IS Krusty the Klown, a bloated commercial juggernaut kept in motion by virtue that no one has anything to replace it with

This film will be terrible - possibly worse than the ep where Homer organises the superbowl half time show - yes, possibly as painfully uninspired as that

The Simpsons isnt funny any more. :(

It has not been funny for a number of years, it deteriorated in the mid to late ninties but was still watchable and amusing. Nowadays, and for the last few number of years it has been arse clenchingly, embarrassingly, woefully bad.

It is terrible, really quite awful. This show is one of my favourites in tv history, a true classic and now if I flick through the channels and find a new episode of the Simpsons, I keep on flicking. I can not lower myself to watch the purile garbage.

And yet if I come across an old episode I will watch it and laugh my arse off even though I have seen it a million times.

Please end it now, its over move on, you have made enough money.

Whatever happened to "ending it before people got sick off it".

The Simpsons R.I.P (Belatedly :-[)

^ if you don't watch the new episodes...how come there rubbish? you aint seen them

indeed, indeed

For anyone that thinks the Simpsons should avoid a public hanging please watch the ep where they travel to Italy and Sideshow Bob is the mayor

People have been stoned to death for crimes far less wicked than that

I still watch new episodes purely out of curiosity - ''will it be worse than last weeks?'

How low can they go!

..and with a film they will have 2 hrs to show the ''comedy'' they cant fit in a 20 min ep....

My hopes for tyhis movie have never been high. I just saw the preveiews for it before Carribian and tho a few of the jokes are pretty damn funny, there were also a lot of misses there ...

dont worry it will feature all the Simpson cliche's:

Trips around the world for little reason other than creative bankcruptcy

Lisa will preach about some sterotypical leftist complaint

Bart will adopt an animal he struggles to care for

...and of course, Homer and Marge's relationship will be on the rocks

again

And expect plenty of pointless cameo's! Oh look Metallica....and they have one line.....what was the point?

The Simpsons have gone down hill but there are still moments of classic hilarity to be found. This last season left on a very high note with the last 2 episodes being the funniest in years. I think the movie has a chance to be good and because I have watched every episode of the simpsons and have seen it go from greatness to not so great I will be there opening day if only because of the nostalgia factor. Nothing will keep this die hard simpsons fan from seeing this movie.  :smoking:

Still watching the Simpsons...because even at it's worst, it's better than 90% of the sitcom drivel on TV today.  Is it what it was in it's heyday? No, I agree.  But it still makes me laugh more than just about anything (the only exception being, possibly, the Office) on Network TV.


Read the premise of the movie, take a gander at some of the spoilers, and watch the trailers.  Remember, the writers also managed an incredible run of HILARIOUS eps too.....and many more of the "top talent" that made S1 - 10 so classic are involved in the movie than have been involved in recent seasons.   It sounds fucking funny.  Up there with "You only Move Twice" and "Homer the Great".


So you're saying you don't get the joke then.....gotcha.


We'll see....I'll let you know...but I think it's amusing you think The Simpsons will be bad, but you're looking forward to Transformers, a franchise being resurrected, raped, bastardized, and pillaged all in the name of commercialism.  I wonder if you'll see the irony in that......

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32357

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/test-screening-details-from-the-simpsons-pic/

I've heard they brought back a lot of the old writers for the movie.  All the new episodes have been by newer writers who, as mentioned, have blown mules when it comes to finding what's good.

Agreed, although I will be checking out the movie because lets face it amongst the first 8 or so years there is some of the finest television of all time (in my opinion). Just makes the following 10 all the more painful.

On a separate note, you mention that sideshow Bob episode. Can anyone remember an episode where they all moved to some island and there was some strange fog or something and then all the characters started doing bizarre things (memory's a bit hazy). I just remember it being dire beyond belief. I think it was like 3 or 4 years ago. Basically i feel that the simpsons used to tell a story then all of a sudden they started making up really random and pointless stories that didn't fit. Anyway that episode for me sums up exactly how I feel. Shame I cant remember anything else about it - Island, thats all folks.

Will give the movie a chance, hoping for the best.

-Greg

How can a toyline made into a cartoon made into a film be - ''pillaged all in the name of commercialism''?!?

What on earth do u think Transformers is?

Its an excercise in creative marketing - and always has been - and no one would ever claim otherwise

Intrestingly enough its written and produced by massive Transformer fans, people that could rival any of our knowledge of the show - Steven Spielberg is an avid Transformers fan and was instrumental in the film being made - they even made Michael Bay learn the back story. The net is awash with interviews with the writers and producers, people ony to happy to talk abut it

All the characters, designs and story elements were created by the writers - Michael Bay (in his own words) has said his sole contribution to the robots look was adding flames to Prime - everything else was done by avid fans.

Maybe their vision is unothodox, but its been made by people who love the Transformers and intend for it to be the biggest film of the summer - and commercial? Just remember: this film was made to sell toys

hmmm....

well there was an ep where they went to 'the Island of Dr Hibbert' where he turned them all into animals - a Treehouse of Horror episode

..and yes, i remember it being unspeakably dreadful too

..it was in another Treehouse of Horror were 'the fog' turned them inside out.....

do those two sound familiar?

as far as worst eps go - the Ricky Gervais ep wins the award hands down. As comic book guy would say 'worst episode ever'

You're right on that one, but get it right; he would say "worst. Episode. Ever." Come on now.

I think you're possibly jumbling up a couple of the Treehouse of Horror vignettes into one.  The "island" one, I think, is the spoof on the Island of Dr. Moreau called "The Island of Dr. Hibbert" (Treehouse of Horror XIII) and the "inside out fog" epilogue from Treehouse of Horror V.  The fog "gets" the Simpsons...and promptly leads to a dance number.

Yes, that's what I said: resurrected (surely, you can agree it was "dead" until this revival), raped and pillaged (as you attest, changed from the original forms, format, storyline, etc), all in the name of commercialism (as you admit, to sell toys).

Seems like you agree with me....you just don't like the words I chose.

I'm not saying they were wrong to do it, or that it won't turn out to be a profitable move, or anything else.  I'm simply pointing out the irony behind your "lust" for that franchise for committing the very same "sins" you're accusing the Simpsons of committing, and, quite frankly, the Transformers franchise commits them at least a couple orders of magnitude more extravagantly.

It's something you're looking forward too that is FAR more commercial than what the Simpsons has become.....and also taken up by "those who love the franchise" (ie: many of the old writing and production team are invovled) yet you choose to villify the Simpsons movie and not Transformers.  I think that's pretty ironic.  I'm not really surprised you don't see the irony.

Edit: I suppose you're trying to make a point that Transformers should be "forgiven" because it was the nature of the beast all along, while Simpsons, in your opinion, has changed (I disagree....they've were pretty "commercial" pretty early in their run).  But that, again, is where the irony lies....

This is pretty funny: http://flickr.com/photos/rdr07/sets/72157600590001691/



/jarmo

HAHAHAHh Izzy your post is such a huge pile of shit. are you kidding me?!?!  Avid fans!??!  Steven Speilberg!! hhahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

find me one fan who always thought the transformers story should be about a boy and his robot car and all of his human friends and not about the transformers themselves.

take your own advice and read what the "avid fans" think of the new designs, the new story, flames on prime.  The makers of the new movie had everything but the real/avid fans in mind when they came up with their ideas.

I haven't watched the Simpsons in ten years or so...

When did it start to suck?

^ 10 years ago

What makes the Simpsons 1997+ so bad?

I'd rather see family guy the movie

saw the trailer for this before the new Die Hard.... and the whole theater was laughing their asses off.

The series has become VERY inconsistent since season 13, but I can see them getting this right.

3 more weeks.

er.... Yes?

Spielberg was instrumental in bringing this film to life, he's a big transformers fan.



...me?

the human characters are the glue that makes it work - cgi metal yakking away wouldnt wash with the general public, it has to revolve around a human character through which we can explore the Transformers - thats exactly what the original show did....remember? Sparkplug? Spike? Hell, Bumblebee and Spike yakking away was a huge chunk of the original show - one boy and his car...geddit? Not like Spielberg invented that....

This is the first film in a series already planned to go for atleats 5 more sequals (according to Mr Bay) - look at the villians they choose, ones with little or no backstory - cannon fodder, the first films just about setting things up - introducing the characters again after a 20 years hiatus

Maybe you should watch those eps again - a mate lent me the boxset, absurd storylines, generic villians, plot holes - thats hardly something Michael Bay or Stevn Spielberg brought to Transformers

Honestly, when was the last time u saw an episode? 15 years?

number 233 on IMDB top 250 films - now IMDB is only good at telling u what geeks obsessed with comics are thinking (i.e hardcore TF fans).....so, i'm guessing they're pretty happy

Transformers?


Reminds me of that scene in Clerks 2....  :hihi:




/jarmo

Since God created man, and man created the Transformers, the Transformers are like a gift from God!

That is like the best thing ever. Does anyone know if these stores are gonna be permanent? It seems like a lot of money to be spent just to change it back in a couple months. That would be so bad ass if they were permanent.? :hihi: :smoking:

um, last i recall, the show actually had the robots in it.  the majority of the show didn't have the human characters with the majority of the screen time and lines....

the episode you're thinking of is, i believe one where homer gets online and starts posting rumours. one of them eventually turns out to be true so he is sent to the island with lots of other people that know something. it is an homage/rip off of a cult 70's british TV show called, i think, the prisoner.

still, whether or not you know the reference, it doesnt stop it being a pretty shitty episode.

I liked the Mr. X episode

simpsons is dead to me.

i think the movie will suck. i will definetly go watch it.......but only because i grew up on simpsons. this may be the final nail in the coffin for me.

they should have stopped at season 10 when phil hartman died.

if they get to season 20 their gonna have more shit material than good.

the best seasons for me are around 3-10.

10 years of shit afterwards is just too much.

Alot of negativity with the later simpsons episodes  :no:

I think thats because simpsons were a sure fire hit every episode for 10 years... After a while they did run out of ideas, and recycled once in a while... I will admit, some crappy episodes (grandpa and selma get married, please...), But they still have some solid episodes to this day....

That episode is absolutely brutal... I could barely sit through the whole thing.

However, I think this most recent season of the Simpsons was a step forward from the past few years.? The two final episodes of the season were completely solid... I also liked the episode with Bart ending up being friends with Nelson... and the bit between Homer & Moe when Homer is in charge of the mob was priceless.

There's no way the writers can avoid hearing the criticism of the show's decline in quality... hopefully this latest season + the movie is a sign of them trying to step up their game.

Edit - Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1kYJlWGJ5M? ?:hihi:

If you go to the Comedy Central website and watch the Daily Show interview with Matt Groening there is a new clip from The Simpsons Movie at the beginning...

I saw it last weekend (in a Springfield, FYI), with a house full of reviewers, press, etc.  You know the type: Jaded, stuffy, critical, overstuffed shirts?

Yeah, they laughed their asses off. Constantly.

If you EVER liked the Simpson's, I think you'll like this movie.  Hell, even if you hated them, you might like it.

It's got all the best parts of the Simpsons show, with the ability to really go for the groin (literally, in at least one case) in a way they just can't on network TV.  It has a feel of an expanded, "classic era", Simpsons episode.  It's smart, self-depreciating, self-aware, and the gags are classic simpsons stuff (I'm sure you've all seen the "spider pig" bit on the commercials, now......I still laugh everytime I see that bit), with lots of pop culture references thrown in.

I think I laughed for about 70 of the 87 minutes.  Go see it.  It's worth the 9 bucks.

I wouldn't take my 7 year old to see it, but I'm admittedly conservative when it comes to that stuff. It's not the humor (which would go over their head in a lot of cases) or the language (which isn't much worse than what they hear daddy use when he stubs his toe, etc) but the violence that I wouldn't want them "acting out".  That's just my hang up, and might be colored by the fact I have younger kids (1,3,5) who are real prone to that.  Maybe they get better as they age...  Ultimately, though,you know your kid best.....

There's some potty humor, light cussing, and a bit of animated nudity (remember that "go for the groin" comment?  Let's just say Groundskeeper Willie isn't the ONLY Willie you'll see)....combined with LOTS of cartoony violence that's a bit graphic (though nothing much beyond what you'd see in most Simpson's eps, and definitely not any worse (IMHO) than any of the Treehouse of Horror stuff).

I edited my OP with more detail, FYI.

Strange how the McBain character is based on Arnold... and they ended up making Arnold President in the movie, drawn the same as McBain.

i love simpsons voilence there was never enough of the gore i loved in there episodes, if the movie has alot of it ill watch it with open arms.

watched it this afternoon at my local cinema.  an advanced screening.  have to say....................... bloody awesome.  been a fan of the simpsons for years and this is just fantastic.

rubbish

basically one of the later season eps stretched to 87 mins

painfully uninspired

but you thought the transformers movie was good? HAHAHAH  :rofl:

just saw it

loved it.

Saw a midnight screening, place was packed.

I loved the movie, it was fantastic!

weird huh? almost as if i was capable of having an opinion - guess they broke the mold with me, maybe they'll issue an update for you one day? Hold out hope lil'buddy, you'll do fine

yey spider-pig - man that funny, a pig...and its....a.....spider pig, man that was classic, where do they get those ideas ::)

http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/ReviewComplete.asp?FID=11196

Empire Review
Even in a mediocre episode of The Simpsons there is one great gag. Back in the classic era, the first ten seasons, say, they created jokes for the ages; comic writing with the kind of snap and sizzle of Woody Allen in the ?60s or Neil Simon or Mel Brooks (all of whom have been satirised in yolk yellow). Beyond that, Homer, Marge, Bart, Lisa and the other one have warmly redefined our concept of the American family. It takes genius to do dumb so well. After 18 years of such consistency surely the next move for the Day-Glo dysfunctions of Homer and co. was a movie? Surely.
 
The Simpsons Movie has been ten yeas in the making. During this tricky decade, the one factor the crew of eleven writers (their finest) had trouble settling on is how a movie version of the half-hour Springfield spins would be different. After all, why buy a ticket for something you get ad infinitum on the box? Eighty minutes after Itchy nukes Scratchy on the moon (the literal opening salvo) you realise that the problem may have defeated them. The Movie is no more than a mediocre episode stretched like taffy till it splits. And there?s not one truly great gag to speak of.   
 
How did something so light and confident become so lumbering and unsure of itself? Everyone is trying too hard and getting nowhere. Lamed, as the later episodes have been, by an overt political agenda, the film so bangs the drum for Al Gore?s eco-message it borders on polemic. Saving the planet may be vital, but not at the expense of Homer?s sublime buffoonery please. The series is at its best when satirising the intricacies of ordinary life ? aim smaller, hit bigger.
 
With more time on their hands, everything seems to work against itself. There are odd pauses, mistimed punchlines ? the lovely jazzy rhythms of the old episodes becoming stilted and soggy. Worse still, the characters are shadows of their old yellow selves. Homer, by necessity the brainless centre of the story, never properly reaches his true absurdist extremes. Bart is entirely lost, his storyline ? weary of Homer?s shortcomings, he?s enticed to join the Flanders ? neutering the arch prankster. Bart needy? Come on. Meanwhile Lisa falls in love (not explored), Marge despairs of her husband (Zzzz?) and Maggie? Actually, Maggie keeps her end of the deal. No one, excepting the title family, gets much of a look in, and the paltry attempts to notch them up are less cameos than momentary blips. In what sane universe does a Simpson movie give Mr. Burns merely two scenes?
 
There is also the stunning fact that, between eleven of surely the funniest writers in America, no one could come up with a good story. Springfield sealed in a dome is about it, but even then nothing is made of the town?s collapse into anarchy, while in not-breaking-news-at-all, Homer has to learn to appreciate his family. Again.
 
It is a depressing experience to rain on this particularly beloved parade. So massive is the series achievement, it?s like punching a best friend in the mush. In pop cultural terms Groening and team are artists, the animation equivalent of Martin Scorsese ? imagine the likes of him delivering something so bereft of inspiration. You chuckle here and there, you enjoy the animation (given a bit more pep and computery dimension for the big screen), but the moment it takes off never comes. This is not the worst film of the summer, just the biggest waste.  Then, perhaps that is the problem. The Simpsons never needed to be a movie.
Verdict
The Simpsons Movie is like the mad moment in 1985 when Coca Cola decided to revamp their tried and tested beverage into New Coke. Take something everyone loves, and make it fizzier and sweeter, with a curious new tang. It utterly failed. The message is just as clear with Simpsonian antics ? if it ain?t broke, don?t make a movie?


Reviewer: Ian Nathan

Cant fault that review, and from a source that (usually) knows what its on about

they certainly did, just not in the way you think they did.   : ok:

saw it last night,, a few good laughs.. but that's it

Good job tracking down the one negative review of 100...  :hihi:

If you don't like the Simpsons Movie, you must hate life.

i saw it tonight.

nail in the coffin for me with regard to the simpsons. i mean......it was decent.......yeah i laughed a few times. was it a good movie? not really.

i wouldnt wanna see it again.

i think i know the reason too.

the seasons that i loved the simpsons for were around seasons 3 - 10. every episode in those seasons was gold to me. but when i think about it, maybe i just love them because of the nostalgia. i mean thsoe are the seasons i grew up with.

also, those are the seasons i watched when i was young. maybe i laughed at them because my humour wasn't mature. maybe at that age i responded to the style of humour of the simpsons better than the newer seasons.

maybe the simpsons hasn't really changed much. but i've just grown up. i don't find the jokes funny anymore. i don't find the characters and situations funny.

i think its time i forget about the simpsons as they were only a part of my life when i was younger. the movie just made me realize it even more.

i don't find that funny at all.

that made me cringe.

utter shit.

Sorry Izzy...you'd written this movie off before you even went to see it....just like you'd creamed over the Transformers before you stepped in the theater.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/simpsons_movie/

88% fresh from the critics.....85% fresh from the viewers.

Most of the reviews have been pretty positive.

You found one that wasn't.  From pretty much exactly the type of critic that would normally give it a bad review.....

and this surprises you?  what "whatever I'm bugging" is to politics, Izzy is to movies  :rofl: :rofl:

Saw it last night. One of the best movies I have ever seen. I loved it. It was a bit odd when you could see Bart's Doodle but pretty funny.


 :peace:

It's not bad. More entertaining than I'd expect and hour-and-seventeen-minute episode of the show to be, so it's got that going for it.

nah i'm the same with movies ..... ;)

Is it true, that there's a "ONLY TO SEE IN EUROPE" instead of Bart's cock? :hihi:

Well not here in Australia, I saw Bart's willie. I was so surprised to. LOL


 :peace:

Thats how it is, luckily american rating system doesn't affect us and we get the movies how they where intended
not sure thats a good thing here :hihi:

His willie was certainly there for all to see during the press screening I attended.

Thats an political comment btw, in Europe it's usual to see nudity (not meaning porn) in films and tv. :peace:

I loved the bits where Homer says he'll show that he's got "cojones" and when he tells the pig to drive before saying "...oh."

Well that's a bit of a generalization. If I recall correctly, HBO aired their ROME show in the US with its full complement of tits, ass, cock graffiti  and cusses - while also providing toned-down "clean" versions of scenes for certain european markets. 

But you're speaking as a Scandinavian, a people with only a passing familiarity with clothing.  :P

hahha, great response  : ok:

Dude that's a sad thinking, nevertheless you could be right but don't forget there's always a child in you.

I like this movie, did anyone saw the ambulance in the Springfield gorge?? I was the only one laughing in the theater, and then everybody stared at me like "why is he laughing about?".

Wasn't that impressed by the movie... Like all the new Simpsons episodes, it's just trying too hard to be "wacky". Uninsipiring.

I thought the first half-hour was pure gold.

...Then it got a bit bland, and sorta' picked up near the end.

Not incredible, but enjoyable nonetheless.

I noticed it too...as did the person I was seeing it with.  There were some chuckles at that, so at least I know we weren't alone in the theater in noticing it.

Bart the Daredevil is pretty "old school".  Maybe pieces of the audience doesn't remember that one..

Is the ambulance parked there permanently now?  :rofl:

I hope the audience would remember that...it's one of the MOST classic Simpsons moments!... on a recent episode Homer was doing a Springfield Gorge flashback and Lisa cuts it off by saying "No Dad, everyone's sick of that memory"... Bart also has a photo of Homer falling down on his nightstand at one point.? ?:hihi:

saw it a few days ago, liked it a lot!

It's the one that crashed into the tree (sending Homer "replummeting" back into the gorge).  And it's still crashed into the tree.

:)

just saw it. a very poor effort. i wont go in to all the things bad about the simpsons movie, suffice to say i'll never bother myself to watch that again.

I liked the idea at first, but then my next thought was, oh, just like the Simpsons Game where you can wander around virtual Sprinfield.

And what is the significance of the ambulance still crashed into the tree? Are we telling children NOT to try and jump gorges.....

Can't wait to see this movie!!! But it will premiere here only on August 17th!  :rant: :rant:


Spider Pig, Spider pig...  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Please, go for it... it would be a more interesting post than "it's rubbish"...

If the first 30 minutes had been an episode, it would have easily been one of the funniest episodes I've seen in quite awhile.

I love the starting when Homer says why are we paying for something we can see on TV  haha that was hilarious

the show is about the people of springield. yet at most the best characters, outside the family, had a few predictable lines (nelson ha ha was painful and where was Mr Burns, the best character in the show?)

the story line was basically the classic homer fucks up and makes amends. which is what you'd expect from the writers who made most of the episodes circa series 1-8, yet they did it in an outlandish and nonsensical way resembling a more recent episode.

the plot was disjointed, where did the pig go? clearly each section written by someone different which hurt the movie.

no song!! christ almighty people. there are 5 or 6 classic simpsons songs and a few more reasonable ones. A criticism often thrown a cartoon movies (South Park) is that they are beefed up with songs to eat up time. why didnt the simpsons include atleast one?

the animation became annoying. sure, its a movie, go crazy - but after the initial novelty it just looked like an episode of futurama with the cgi-style graphics.

and the killer - bottom line is it wasn't that funny. sure i chuckled through it, but i never ever gut laughed.

thats the main points quickly done, but there are more - homer giving the finger annoyed me, the jumping on the save the planet bandwagon annoyed me, the lack of simpsons insiders jokes annoyed me.....

...but it had Homer and Marge's relationship on the rocks - thats the first time we've ever seen that angle....

...oh wait....

After scores of such episodes one wonders if the writers are oblivious to previous installments - do we really need to see Marge leave Homer.....again?! Something rather perverse about doing the same story over and over and over again....

I hate to beat a dead horse but......

.....wasn't the Transformers movie a story (with energon, in the toons) that was pretty much the same one we've been told over and over again?

C'mon Izzy...just admit you'd written this off before you even stepped into the theater.

I hope that's a genuine question because if you cant see the massive differences between the various series and the film then I do have to wonder


Actually I was fairly certain this film would be atleast as good as an average episode and maybe within touching distance of a great episode

If you liked this film than thats great - it must be wonderful to find everything funny even without the help of substances

...me, well i like comedy, ya know witty observations, great timing the whole nine yards

 :rofl: sitting here with stolat and laughed and sang "spider pig, spider pig, does whatever a spider pig does" haha  : ok:

i went in with an open mind.

didnt really laugh.

everyone was laughing around me.

when spider pig came on everyone was bursting out laughing.......i looked around the theater thinking "you cant be serious". i was shocked.

personally i blame my falling out with the simpsons not on the simpsons itself. but rather other shows.

curb your enthusiasm, extras, the office, arrested development.

arrested development was the best show on television. how does it get cancelled after 3 seasons yet the simpsons continues to ruin its legacy for 20 fucking years!  :rant:

is it not a damning indictment on the film that the funniest bit in it is homer befriending a pig and singing the spider-man tune? it couldve come from the laziest family guy episode ever, yet its the 'best' thing in the movie

(ps. I'm not ripping family guy, i quite enjoy it. but the simpsons writers all hate it and it is very poorly written at time - see south park's Cartoon Wars episodes)

i notice that the jokes in the simpsons are very family guy-ish.

i love family guy.

but when simpsons tries to do family guy its just.............meh.

and simpsons writers hate family guy so what the fuck.

Because that show really did suck....



The writers of the simpsons hate family guy?? They must be tortured then, getting beat in ratings, having Peter in their show..

As far as being poorly written.. A peice of talking shit, a hampster walking around in someones ass, is any better??

Alot of family guys punch lines are random... Thats why I love them...

if they are good characters, then yes, a talking piece of shit and a hamster in someone's ass is better. y'know, constructing a joke, character development? rather than just saying "that reminds me of the time...."

i'm not saying its not amusing, its just very cheap. its still a worthwhile and enjoyable show, but its doesnt require a great deal of writing craft to be able to do it. lots of the jokes are completely interchageable; jokes should have relevance

you cant be serious.

EVERY single episode of that show i could watch over again. making me laugh a lot more than the simpsons did even in their golden years. and i was a BIG fucking simpsons fan too.

Family guy develops characters, and has substance to jokes, but just has the flashbacks too..

You can have all the character development in the world, dosent make it automaticaly good.. Watching people die and crap themselves, or 2 guys farting on tv, never gets any fresher... The variety Family Guy has with their random jokes keeps them different...



I'll retract "it sucked", cause I never really watched after it didnt impress me... but i'll say its no shock to me its no longer on the air...

emotional development? not really

substance to jokes? rarely.

flashbacks? they are not flashbacks. A flashback is where you look back on something that has previously happened. What family guy does is merely lift a humourous situation and drop it in whereever a gag is needed. watch an episode and count how many times a joke has any real link to the storyline.

like i said its amusing and all, but its very cheap and unfulfilling

"Like that time I...." Which is a flash back, yes not likley most of those thing happened, butnone the less....


Rarley substance?? True not as much as south park, but not every funny thing on family guy is random either... I mean if you base family guy on what south park writers say, sure i could see how you think that...

i'm not comparing the two, its not a competition.

stop looking at them against one another, and accept that family guy is a cheap attempt at humour. its no less valid nor enjoyable given one's persuasion for humour; but when it comes to character development and jokes that are related to the storyline then family guy is woeful attempt at a show.

(and on the flashback, a flashback is something that has already happened on screen, not just in the character's life. therefore, family guy does not have flashbacks, like i said, it has gags which are dropped in regardless of the storyline at the time)

I'm saying I think you're giving south park a lttile to much credit, and not enough to family guy...

I think family guy's style makes it an orginal type of show... Calling it a cheap attempt on humor, in my view is wrong...


But is it not a flashback in their life when they say it that way?? Really I was just putting it that way cause it was less to type  :hihi:

i gave south park hardly any credit, i barely mentioned south park. Where i spoke of emotional development and jokes related to the story i was talking about any decent tv show (of which, admittedly, there are few). And i gave family credit where its due, its funny and enjoyable, but also cheap and predictable.

And its hardly original, watch any episode of the simpsons series 2 - 5 and you'll see this "flashback" humour employed; except when they did it they related it to the storyline and then cut it out by the time it got boring, unlike family guy who actually do more of it as time goes by.

(and its still not a flashback. its a fake show; nothing actually exists outside what we see. therefore unless we've already seen it, its not a flashback)

Hence Family Guy does it in an entirley different way...
flash?back:
interruption of chronological sequence (as in a film or literary work) by interjection of events of earlier occurrence; also : an instance of flashback b : a past incident recurring vividly in the mind

south parks tv series generally just improves each one, series 10 was brilliant.

simpsons is same old same old.

family guy is just a load of shit, did not make me laugh whatsoever.

howcome? surely if it does the same thing but just more often it is not different, simply to a greater extent.

Because they dont relate to the story.. They're so off the wall... You never know where they're going with it until the end..

oh, well bravo to family guy. why bother actually working to fit a joke in, just dump it in wherever.

I like south park... It's alright..  8)

Down boy  ::)

And again, you make it seem like they NEVER do.... Do you even watch the show, or do you just go off what people say?

they very rarely do anything but.

and as far as i know i've seen every single episode, like i said way back, i enjoy the show, but on an 'artistic' level, its absolut dross.

Plenty of differences...the main plot point just wasn't one of them....other than the name of the plot device.  Energon by any other name...


A quote from you, from June 2nd, page 1 in this very thread:


So....which is it?  You expected it to be decent? Or you knew it was going to be terrible? 

I'll stand by my opinion you had written the movie off before you stepped in the theater...largely because that's what you said back in June.

As for my sense of humor, looking at MOST of the reviews, (89% fresh on rotten tomatoes, STILL), it seems that I'm in the majority on this one.  I can respect anyone that walked in with an open mind and didn't like the film.  But honestly.....it's apparent (by your own words) that's not what's happened here.

And ANYONE that creams over the Transformers, and then points to "substance" should never, ever be taken seriously where movies are concerned again.