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Title: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: The Prez on October 05, 2006, 03:32:07 AM
Hi all, for years I don't watch MTV anymore (too much crap) but this week they showed a documentary "History Of Metal"

I don't want to start a thread about if Guns is hardrock or metal or whatsoever, but in anycase they did MEAN something in the scene when sthey tarted (back in '80s).
Of course they evolved...in UYI era, Rock & metal music became very popular, GN'R (also Metallica with the black album) made this happen and were inspiration for a lot of new (rock - metal) bands out there now.

But if you look to Guns back in the 80's they were real mean motherfuckers. Rocking your asses off, the most dangerous band out there!
With the UYI era there were more ballads (NR, Estranged, etc) which also made a lot of "new fans", ok let's face it: they were more commercial, etc...

My question, or poll, is: What is GN'R for you? (why did/do you like them in the first place):

1. a fucking great rockband on the edge, with one of the best (crazy) frontmen ever
2. an 'emo' rockband with a brilliant songwriter (Axl & 'a band')

(no discussion about new vs old gn'r!!)

For me it was 1


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: snakepipero on October 05, 2006, 03:39:15 AM
What is GN'R for me? The best Band ever. They gave me some of the best feelins in my life since i started to hear them at 15 and now i'm 23 so in the past 8 years they changed my life, and I started to play guitar and bass (I can play the two; I have a band where I play the bass and I can play guitar really well too)due to fuckin' Slash and Duff, they're my fuckin' idols as Axl and the rest of the guys


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: bangit on October 05, 2006, 03:40:40 AM
1 + 2

Guns n roses tto me is all about axl rose, his musical direction changed and as im sure we will see with chi dem, probably evolved even more.

The whole package of Hard rock, then big bastard ballards is just perfect, it shows how talented the artist is, to write hard hitting heavy stuff then switching to an estranged / nov rain ballard is just awesome.



Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: snakepipero on October 05, 2006, 03:45:10 AM
But I can't understand your poll, Neither choice 1 or 2 are the ones that can describe Guns to me i choose ................................................................................................... ................................................................................................... .... 3: The best band ever with a fuckin' badass guitar players team (slash and Izzy), a really solid ryhtmic team (Duff and Matt or Steven) and the best and more paranoic frontman ever (Axl Rose).

That's my choice


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Disco Volante on October 05, 2006, 03:47:01 AM
Now Gnr is emo?


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: melissa on October 05, 2006, 03:50:28 AM
GnR is a great rock band with an attitude. to me, it's more about Axl, great songwriter, who has been able to take all his experiences, good or bad, and put them into brilliant lyrics.
the best part is that all its members have just completed one another. seeing them live is a great experience.



Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: codenameninja on October 05, 2006, 06:08:25 AM
i'm really not sure.. as i like so many other bands too..

.as much as i like what i have heard of the new music from Gn'R, the Gn'R sound has gone, and i'm not sure for better or worse. I won't really be able to pass judgement until the album CD is released  :peace:



Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: JB9988 on October 05, 2006, 08:35:51 AM

2. an 'emo' rockband with a brilliant songwriter (Axl & 'a band')

(no discussion about new vs old gn'r!!)

For me it was 1

GNR IS NOT FUCKING EMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rant:


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: AxlReznor on October 05, 2006, 08:41:11 AM
GN'R are not emo!
I think emo has suddenly become the phrase that people use for any music they don't like... it used to be nu-metal, but now it's emo.  It's stupid.

Anyway... I like them because of both - they're an amazing rock band with one of the best frontmen ever who could simultaneously rock out and tug at the heartstrings.  If they only did the hard, fast rock songs then I wouldn't like them as much.  If they only did piano-led epic ballads, I wouldn't like them as much... it's the fact that they managed to successfully blend them, and aren't afraid to experiment with an abundance of styles - and pulled them all off marvellously - that I love them.

Nothing worse than a band who just gets stuck in a rut because they refuse to experiment and evolve.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Ines_rocks! on October 05, 2006, 08:45:48 AM
wait a minute... did u just said that GN?R are a emo band????????????' ??? ??? ??? god man...that?s the end! tell me it was a mistake.. just tell me that! or I will never be the same lol...

c?mon.. u can do better than that.... : ok:


and btw, emo fucking sucks... its so sad that there r so few pure rock bands left in the states... that all there is now is fucking emo bands and hip-hop... :no:


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: dub05 on October 05, 2006, 09:05:51 AM
Guns to me is a band that smacked me in the face in 1987  after a gap of 10 yrs since the last slap (sex pistols).

Both bands just seemed to light up a dreary music scene at the time.

I honestly couldn't see either of the bands lasting that long & i was right .(original set -up).

Ihave no worries whatsoever that people are gonna love whats on the way & it's gonna slap me in the face again. :peace:   
 


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: russtcb on October 05, 2006, 09:34:11 AM
Hi all, for years I don't watch MTV anymore (too much crap) but this week they showed a documentary "History Of Metal"

I don't want to start a thread about if Guns is hardrock or metal or whatsoever, but in anycase they did MEAN something in the scene when sthey tarted (back in '80s).
Of course they evolved...in UYI era, Rock & metal music became very popular, GN'R (also Metallica with the black album) made this happen and were inspiration for a lot of new (rock - metal) bands out there now.

But if you look to Guns back in the 80's they were real mean motherfuckers. Rocking your asses off, the most dangerous band out there!
With the UYI era there were more ballads (NR, Estranged, etc) which also made a lot of "new fans", ok let's face it: they were more commercial, etc...

My question, or poll, is: What is GN'R for you? (why did/do you like them in the first place):

1. a fucking great rockband on the edge, with one of the best (crazy) frontmen ever
2. an 'emo' rockband with a brilliant songwriter (Axl & 'a band')

(no discussion about new vs old gn'r!!)

For me it was 1


1) Easily.

If you would've asked me in 1992 if Axl Rose could ever replace the band with people that rocked just as hard with just as much feeling I'd have said you're nuts.

Part of my answer is based on the fact that I would've been dead wrong.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: The Prez on October 05, 2006, 09:58:27 AM
GNR IS NOT FUCKING EMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rant:

Ok, I agree, the word "EMO" was maybe not the correct word to use, but what I mean with "emo" is the difference between the Appetite era and the UYI era

Nothing wrong with the illusion albums!!! I like the UYI very much, as much as the appetite, but it is different.
Appetite is raw, rocks your ass off and it gave GN'R the name of "Most dangerous band out there"with a crazy but one of a hell frontmen.
UYI still kicked ass, but it was more mainstream. Due to songs likeNovember Rain, Don't Cry, ...etc. Dont get me wrong, I think those are magnificent songs! Estranged is my favorite all-time song.
But because these songs are more "inviting" for non-rockers, GN'R suddenly had "new" fans who were not all into rock music. They bought the UYI albums, but I wonder if they bought appetite.



Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: miss bomb on October 05, 2006, 10:02:41 AM
gnr was always because of the songs, and the energry and excitment. luckily, i still believe they have that; even more so than before  :beer: and axl can certainly still write amazing songs.  : ok:


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Cleopatra2U on October 05, 2006, 11:12:16 AM
My question, or poll, is: What is GN'R for you? (why did/do you like them in the first place):

1. a fucking great rockband on the edge, with one of the best (crazy) frontmen ever
2. an 'emo' rockband with a brilliant songwriter (Axl & 'a band')

I have to admit, I really don't understand the term "emo".? I don't think that term was even around when I started listening to GNR in 1988.? So, based on your choices, I'd have to pick #1.

To me, GNR is the single greatest American rock-n-roll band of all time; AFD is the single greatest album of all time; and the hot-tempered, enigmatic yet charismatic, and drop-dead-sexy (to me anyway) Axl Rose is one of rock-n-roll's greatest frontmen of all time.

AFD was a big part of the soundtrack to my youth.? I was a metalhead back then, and the best thing about AFD was that all manner of metalheads,? from hair band fans to thrash/speed metal fans, were into it -- GNR was one of the few bands we could all agree upon.? Looking back, I find it a bit ironic that a band so angry and anarchic could be so unifying, but hey, that's what GREAT MUSIC does...? GREAT MUSIC unites...? And GREAT MUSIC lasts.

This is why I still like GNR after all these years.? They're one of the few artists I listened to in high school that I still give a sh!t about today.? Axl plays a HUGE part in this.? I had a hard time growing up; it's little wonder that I could relate to a troubled young man from a fucked-up family who sang about "lookin' for a trace, lookin' for a heart, lookin' for a lover in a world that's much too dark".? I could relate to his anger, his sadness, his pain.  These days, neither of us seems to be as troubled as we once were, but teenage infatuation never really dies...? I still think Axl is HOT as HELL...? I still love GNR's music...? And I'm still very interested in what Axl has to sing about.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on October 05, 2006, 11:12:31 AM
GNr is a band that influence me a lot, I love them since I was 11 years old and it's a feeling you can't describe but is one of the best bands that ever walked the earth  :peace:


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: pollyblue on October 05, 2006, 11:14:27 AM
gn'r is the only band in the world with a frontman that fits me.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: PJ on October 05, 2006, 11:31:25 AM
i think is a combination of both... "a fucking great rockband on the edge (no matter the members.. PROVED) with a brilliant songwriter that is also one of the best frontmen ever"

but i dont know why people thinks that gnr changed when AFD was "raw" and UYI had ballads and a more mainstream sound...
the rawness in AFD was a very calculated and half of the songs that are in UYIs are from  AFD era... so is not like they changed is more like they used these things as masterplan to have success... also great bands have to reinvent themselves even more when the debut album is a legend.. they need to make things different.. and that is also that they knew it from the first day (at least axl)


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: deanaxlrose on October 05, 2006, 11:40:10 AM
GNR is everything to me. because Axl, I learn hard to sing like him. now Im obsessed to become a Rockstar.
if i never heard estranged in my childhood. maybe I have a wife and son now. :yes:
still livin' in Rock N' Roll dreams :hihi:.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Axlfreek on October 05, 2006, 02:39:07 PM
I remember when i was in third grade my sister brought home the "Welcome to the Videos" VHS and we watched it. I immediatly loved WTTJ and the songs that followed. So i went outy and bought the albums and have loved them ever sense. They were the first band I ever got into. Sense then i have always stuck to my guns, backing axl and spreading the word about the new band. and of course, patiently waiting.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on October 05, 2006, 05:00:55 PM
Gn'R is the reason I love music so much, without them I wouldn't have half the interest I do.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: italysfinest1985 on October 05, 2006, 05:02:19 PM
GnR and Emo dont belong in the same sentence.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: estebanf on October 06, 2006, 03:29:40 AM
Now Gnr is emo?

you should be banned for that avatar dude  :rant:


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: //JK75 on October 06, 2006, 04:42:04 AM
Now Gnr is emo?

you should be banned for that avatar dude? :rant:

It's very disgusting... yes!  >:(


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: The Prez on October 06, 2006, 05:01:10 AM
before saying this and that about using the word 'EMO', you should read my response why I used that word and my mistake by doing that!

Please understand that english is not my motherlanguage and that with the word EMO I just meant the more maintstream sound and rockbalads GN'R used to have in the 90's.
I suppose the word 'EMO' has another meaning in the english, fine!
I made my point so you should understand it by now. So don't you fixate (is that a word?) on that 'EMO' word and maybe give a response on the subject of this thread.
 :P


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: AtariLegend on October 07, 2006, 01:53:27 PM
For me GNR are the 3rd greatest band ever, just behind NIN and Megadeth


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: codenameninja on October 07, 2006, 02:07:41 PM
For me GNR are the 3rd greatest band ever, just behind NIN and Megadeth

Megadeth?


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: axlrosehunny on October 07, 2006, 02:12:45 PM
For me GNR are the 3rd greatest band ever, just behind NIN and Megadeth

NIN?

I dont even think NIN is a band.   Just sorta like a musican.  Trent....


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: ARC on October 07, 2006, 02:17:03 PM
GnR and Emo dont belong in the same sentence.

Word.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: oneway23 on October 07, 2006, 02:23:40 PM
For me, GNR is a demoralized prostitute croutching in a gutter


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: AtariLegend on October 07, 2006, 02:29:04 PM
For me GNR are the 3rd greatest band ever, just behind NIN and Megadeth

Megadeth?

Yes

If Axl hired Dave Mustaine there would never be any ego clashes in GNR


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: AylaRose28 on October 07, 2006, 05:13:07 PM
My question, or poll, is: What is GN'R for you? (why did/do you like them in the first place):

1. a fucking great rockband on the edge, with one of the best (crazy) frontmen ever
2. an 'emo' rockband with a brilliant songwriter (Axl & 'a band')

I have to admit, I really don't understand the term "emo".  I don't think that term was even around when I started listening to GNR in 1988.  So, based on your choices, I'd have to pick #1.

To me, GNR is the single greatest American rock-n-roll band of all time; AFD is the single greatest album of all time; and the hot-tempered, enigmatic yet charismatic, and drop-dead-sexy (to me anyway) Axl Rose is one of rock-n-roll's greatest frontmen of all time.

AFD was a big part of the soundtrack to my youth.  I was a metalhead back then, and the best thing about AFD was that all manner of metalheads,  from hair band fans to thrash/speed metal fans, were into it -- GNR was one of the few bands we could all agree upon.  Looking back, I find it a bit ironic that a band so angry and anarchic could be so unifying, but hey, that's what GREAT MUSIC does...  GREAT MUSIC unites...  And GREAT MUSIC lasts.

This is why I still like GNR after all these years.  They're one of the few artists I listened to in high school that I still give a sh!t about today.  Axl plays a HUGE part in this.  I had a hard time growing up; it's little wonder that I could relate to a troubled young man from a fucked-up family who sang about "lookin' for a trace, lookin' for a heart, lookin' for a lover in a world that's much too dark".  I could relate to his anger, his sadness, his pain.  These days, neither of us seems to be as troubled as we once were, but teenage infatuation never really dies...  I still think Axl is HOT as HELL...  I still love GNR's music...  And I'm still very interested in what Axl has to sing about.

Well that just pretty much summed it up perfectly!

:)


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: GnR-NOW on October 07, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
For me, GNR is a good time.  Its hard not to relate any of their songs to something that has happened or is happening in your life. 


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: jimb0 on October 07, 2006, 09:03:37 PM
GNR is a band that brings back fond childhood memories and creates new ones.  Something I can Identify with.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: deep pocketz on October 07, 2006, 09:20:03 PM
I just felt dirty listening to them. It made a whole bunch of middle class white boys feel tough. :smoking:


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Yesterday on October 07, 2006, 09:37:42 PM
Gn'R helped me realize what great music was, and how great a frontman Axl is.   (U2 helped me with this too!)  And Gn'R  has helped me through some bad times in my life.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on October 07, 2006, 09:56:56 PM
GNR have the last great rock frontman with Axl Rose.

Ive been listening to them for so long they were a band whose CD's I have had in my collection for 19 years. I grew up with them in a sense.


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: EccoTides on October 07, 2006, 10:31:08 PM
For me GNR are the 3rd greatest band ever, just behind NIN and Megadeth

Megadeth?

Yes

If Axl hired Dave Mustaine there would never be any ego clashes in GNR

 :beer:  ;D


Title: Re: What is GN'R for you?
Post by: Annie on October 07, 2006, 10:38:17 PM
Have you seen that GAP commercial with Audrey Hebpurn dancing around to BACK IN BLACK? The way she talks and dances in that ad pretty much sums it up for me. When a girl wants to dance, a girl wants to dance, and I could certainly use a release!!