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your opinions about the song called 'silkworms'?  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzfwjPHUdLk

I like it, although it won't be on CD. I like GNR songs that are a bit different from their others.

That song blows....you'll never see it.....I don't see it ever being released....at least not until they are on top of the world again....that way they can use it as a filler on another record.......BTW....that song blows..

I like it. Something different, and I like the attitude in it. Altough IMO the HOB version is better than this one.. They should use it as a b-side :yes:

it's better then rhiad IMO

I've only heard really bad bootlegs of the song played live (like the rest of us)... I can't really make an opinion of the song on the versions that are available... That said, the song does sound interesting/promising....  I would love to hear a studio version.... 

I'd take Rhiad over SW any day... The vocal preformance by Axl on Rhiad is spectacular... SW is just sort of annoying IMO.

Silkworms is a brilliant slice of genius, and I'm not joking.

The reason people hate it is because it needs more development and Axl's vocals then sucked, they were too whiny.

People credit Pitman but that was also very much a Bucket song, you can tell just by listening to his solo albums.

It's got the rock-funk style of Rocket Queen with Aphex Twin-style synth/techno - it just needs more work.

As it is I kind of dislike the song, it gets on my nerves.

The problem isn't the techno/synth beat and sound effects... the problem is the vocals and the total fuckin' lack of structure.
If Axl would've actually sung this song instead of just trying to do some crap spoken word thing on it, it might actually be somewhat descent.

Holy lord of heavens.... That song was awful. A studio version might make it less...crappy, but geez... *faints*

I forgot how much like Axl Axl looked in 2001

Yeah, he also sounded more like Axl then when he spoke (not sang).

Don't know if anyone's noticed but his voice has changed a lot in the past few years, just like Mickey Rourke's changed.

I think the song is heavily influenced by the Sex Pistols (at least in terms of vocals and structure) albeit heavier but the song doesn't do much for me.  This is by far my least favorite of any of the songs by the new incarnation of GNR.

To King Sand:  The RIR III is a soundboard and is excellent quality.  If you can't find it let me know and I'll post it.  Definitely not a bad bootleg.

I really don't see any comparison with The Sex Pistols to be honest.

when listening to silkworms, you can see how aggresive pitman and reed are.  :hihi:
first i thought axl wrote that.  :-X

the song should be called something else than silkworms IMO  ::)

Pittman owned that song. I thought it sucked because Axl's voice sucked in 2001, I might be open for a Silkworms comeback now that Axl has his chops back.

well if axl would sing that, not speak that, maybe then it could be better...  :P

Oh my god, I just listened to the song again.

"Pussy full of maggots, isn't that absurd!
What can I do with a bitch like you!"

 :rofl:

Pitman, oh, sweet Pitman, it's glorious.

"Fucking little schemer got yourself a broken heart
Parasitic demons sucking acid through your heart"

Seriously, what was he taking when he wrote that?

And did he use a thesaurus to write a death metal song?

I can just imagine the first time Pitman showed this to Axl.

Axl: "Oh yeah...this is JUST like a Nine Inch Nails song! Awesome!"

Then everyone hates it and Axl kicks Pitman's ass for betraying him.  :rofl:

Terrible is too kind a word for this song. Worst.thing.ever.

Dizzy - 'I really like the vocals you used for Down on the Farm, pleeeease do them again.'

Axl - 'Only if I can say that you and that other guy, whats his name again? wrote the song so I dont have to take the blame'

Slash at home watching on TV - 'Heh heh'.

First, Silkworms shits all over Rhiad. Rhiad is easily not the only the worst new-GN'R out there, but it's the only one I don't like at all. One of the very few GN'R songs that have no up side, Rhiad. I have no idea why RATB is gaining this almost cult following in the GN'R fan world. Guys with signs like 'Play RHIAD!', makes me want to bring signs that say 'For The Love of God DON'T!' If any forgotten new-GN'R song deserves play, it's Oh My God. Take some of the Bizkit out of it, it's got great lyrics, good rhythm, and a perfect GN'R pace.

As for Silkworms, I really like the song. I don't love it. I like it. But in comparison to the other new songs we've heard, it's definitely on the B-side list.

Personally I don't think we'll ever hear a studio cut of this. This was Axl in his experimental stage, and despite how hard Silkworms rocks, one has to wonder, if you like Silkworms, why not My World? I hate My World.

Silkworms to me has always come across as a mysterious song. It's not meant to make a whole lotta sense. When I listen to Silkworms, I think 'this sounds like a song that would be played over the end credits of a Rob Zombie horror flick'. It has that kind of vibe.

Yup, Rhiad is absolutely terrible as well, thats for sure.

 :rofl: Thats easy to imagine.

the song is ok
is like a industrial punk song
raw guitars, really fast, no solo but with synths blur and ambient stuff in the background
the vocals are very sex pistols influenced..

Rhiad is awesome.

To industrial. this song makes my world look good.

This song is great. Honestly.

Same with Rhaid.

I really hope to hear this song on a B-side or something someday.

Exactly how I feel about it. It reminds me of an electronica version of "It's So Easy." I like the song, granted it's a bit of a mess - But it's a way more interesting song than Rhiad or even CD, the title track.

silkworms is a nice song and i'd like to hear a finished studio of it.
but i don't think it will be on the album. maybe as a b-side or a bonus track.

I don't know. When I heard songs like this from GNR.. I was pretty excited for Chinese Democracy. I thought it could be really different and awesome.

I'm not saying I thought Silkworms was a masterpiece.. but it was a step in a new direction.

And I'm still excited for CD.. but it just doesn't seem like it's going to revolutionize anything. Back in 02.. nobody had a clue what the record was gonna sound like.. and I think people had higher expectations.

why do all compare silkworms to rhiad?    ???
the two I have available here silkworms was benefitted by the recording that is much better from rhiad.
I prefer silkworms. ;)

I heard it a couple of times and then couldn't stand it anymore   :-\   sorry, guitar just plain simple, synths which I'm not a fan of and bad vocals with worse lyrics, what else can I say???    :no:

Rhiad and Silkworms stylistically are quite similar - Axl's vocals are also very similar on the songs. Axl's voice always evolves over the years - every time he resurfaces it's different (86, 88, 91, 93, 94, 95, 99, 01, 02, and 06 all differ to some degree) and I think Rhiad and Silkworms were probably written around 1999 when Axl began experimenting with the higher pitch. I think he was trying to sound more like John and Mercury with the high falsetto coupled with the fact that he had destroyed his vocal chords earlier in his life - '91 is when he did the most damage. Someone told me their vocal coach used to use Axl as an example of how NOT to sing because doing so like that will literally destroy your voice.

I think to help compensate for this he began singing at a higher pitch and lost a lot of the rasp/grit - and Rhiad and Silkworms were an experimentation with this new style.

However I think Rhiad is a far better song and gets a bad rap on GN'R forums because we only have shitty bootlegs - if you heard TWAT as a bootleg and didn't hear the demo I know I for one wouldn't care for it nearly as much as i do right now, Axl's voice was just weak on it.

silk worms blows, so does catcher in the rye(sort of). the song chinese democracy is ok, and the blues, madagascar, irs, better and twat are phenomenal!!! imo