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Gnr should release their single on cd maxi and on i tunes. They should also let people preorder the single the week before its release to I tues for max sales. I think it would be huge to see Gnr #1 on i tunes or Axls face on I tunes.  This would really hype the album if they did this. They could also stream it on the  offical site a week after its released.

Good idea -

Or they could just give it away for free like Pearl Jam did.

All that needs to happen is for it to be a huge hit on radio. It'll go number one if thats' the case. You people might hate me for saying this but Axl should do an ipod adverstisement. Hey it worked wonders for Vertigo. Imagine Guns doing an advertisement like that. It'd be awesome. though they wouldn't be allowed to get paid for it :hihi:. ?It's not selling out it's just promotion and it would be huge. There is no such thing as selling out anymore. If Bob Dylan can do GAP commercials Gn'R can do an ipod ad. ?At least it's somewhat of a music tool. :hihi:

I think the Single will be drop in the new web site,for free. ;)

I think they should stay away from itunes...I hate downloading and I think eventually that is going to kill the music industry...I still buy every cd I have..he should just put out the album and be very careful it doenst get pirated right away, which im sure it will because there are assholes all over the place that will do it...you see I dont have huge expectations as far as album sales go, because of all the illegal downloading ruining the business....it will sell well by todays standards, and I hope it goes number 1 but it will never reach the level of the illusions or appetite in album sales... which is unfortunate......that goes for all you downloading motherfuckers out there...congrats....now did I download the leaked songs?...of course I did, but I am also buying several copies of chinese democracy when it comes out just to have....so I am not ripping anybody off

Actually, Bob Dylan has an iTunes TV ad for his newest album as well.

Fucking sell out :rofl: seriously though there sin't much out there that seems to be taboo anymore even to te most credible artists. the way the mainstream music scene has shifted bands that would once scoff at the idea of lending their songs to products have to do it now to be heard.

iTunes with its DRM crap just suck. I don't mind them selling the single there, but if it's exclusively I'm going to be very pissed.

Also, I'm pretty sure the single will be streamed on their website as soon as it hits radio stations. And if they do things the normal way, that will happen before it's available for purchase.

They will stream the Single on their website one day before hit radio stations,like the PR was on the net one day before. : ok:
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I have Rhapsody, and pretty much all of the GN'R catalogue is available on there, except for "Civil War" and "Sympathy For The Devil." I'm sure they'll release it on Rhapsody as well as iTunes, Urge, Yahoo, and whatever service Microsoft is coming out with.

I dont think we should worry about that.
gunsnroses.com finaly proved that this band has someone looking after it's best interest and promotion.
we may rest now, since it has finaly been proven without a doubt that this is the year.
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Bob Dylan's advert is for I-Tunes and his new album, not Gap!! Bit of a difference dude.

Doesn't matter what it's for - It's still a disgrace.  :rant:

@#$%Funker

How often does putting a single for download on Itunes or some other downloading service come up around here anyway?  It's like every few days. :no:

I don't care how the first single is released, I just want it to be released.

It'll probably be released for download and cd purchace (with a few bsides).  Then of course the radio promotional cds...

I've always thought that the album would be released first, and a single would follow. I mean, the album's what all the hype is for, right? People will want their first experience of Chi Dem to be the entire album, imo.

Well they have to release a single first, even if you can't physically buy it.

How else would people know the album is coming out if they didn't promote it with a radio single?

Spend 13 million recording an album for 8-10 years and release the most killer track you come up with.

There are so many ways, to be honest, that the band could have taken advantage of free publicity already, and they haven't.

I'm not sure why. Maybe they've got some grand scheme. But the way they've acted so far, I literally can't imagine loading iTunes and seeing Axl on there. It's like they're purposely distancing themselves from the standards of album promotion.

Think about it, most albums are announced months in advance, and we've got only a couple months left really until this thing drops. Oh well! We'll see what happens.

As long as I hear music I don't care really - but I'd love to see GN'R make it big again.

One thing I think I been been prtty consistant on over the yrs, when and if I posted about this kinda thing.

IS that I never thought the release of CD would ever be traditional by anymeans. IF there in any indication to that, just look at the US tour. I was kinda prepared as I think most of us here , who live in the US, for this and the fact,

1- The were starting to announce dates to follow up inland invasion

2- axl said at the MTV awards the tour will start Oct 20th

3-All of a sudden dates start getting postponed to later(the westcoast), incidently on a side note, to me I think that was very funny.lol, kinda I guess an inside jopke for those who know.

4- Suspisiously venues are by accounts giving word that GNR are booked

5- tix appear on Tix master, only to be taken off

6- (now this is actually pre, but it was said that the plans would be announced in due course, months ago)

7- rumblings of an announcement (after Inland)

8- WE fans get the news before its actualy giving to the press about the shows goin onsale
And mind you that was what 3 days before? ( if anyone is following me, I doubt that this kinda thing hs ever happened this way).

9- presales, and yes there was one, but an entire tour itnerary was giving, and the precess almost is like slow motion, fans first, always. . New web site, and talks of new content and vid and music. (mind you this is all info only since last week.lol Oh and throw in the MLB into the mix and , yeah the whole playoffs and eventual world series)

10- DO you really think CD is gonna be released traditional (13 more tues), !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Serious people this thing could be out at the drop of a dime now, any giving tues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.lol

This has been a great ride though, and its only the begining!

OH and I realised I went a bit off topic, but as for how the fist single will be released, I am leaning towrds, a global radio and online radio, as wel as a vid on the new wesite . at the same time!, just my guess.and that very well could be literally when you think all the yrs so many have been here supporting , just a drop in the bucket of time if it to be a few days, a week, or hrs!

'Better' should be the first single. Then follow-up with 'The Blues'. *faints*

I think all if this will be promoted after the fact.  I think it will all drop quickly from here on out.  Unconventional yes, but hey it's Guns N' Roses.  I really hope (and almost believe) that the first single will be out before night one of the tour.  Maxi single would be great.

If they do go the maxi-single route, it should be the song itself - "Better," in my opinion, followed by "Beautiful" and other, non-CD tracks that fans will see when they go to a show.  That way, the single gets released *and* people will be more familiar with the setlist they'll see at the concerts...

First off, staying away from iTunes is stupid. Whether or not you like downloading your songs, a lot of people do. Why would GNR want to alienate part of its fan base?

Second, the album will be pirated, and it will have ZERO effect on sales so long as the album is solid. The record companies cry about downloading but studies have shown those who download actually buy more music than anyone else - they just download TONS (with the exception of really young kids who don't have money).

The reason CD will never reach the sales levels of old is:

a) Too much time has passed
b) Some people will never accept the absense of Slash
c) Nowadays there is more competition for your money - especially with DVDs.

DVDs took off in a way VHS never did, and that just *happened* to coincide with the downward spiral of music sales. Yet the music industry blames it all on downloading (because blaming their fellow content producers in the movie world would be virtual treason). So-called "illegal" downloading is probably fourth or fifth on the list of causes for declining sales, after DVDs, people fed up with record companies, the lack of quality artists, people having already bought enough CDs/having bought all their old tapes on CD now, etc. Not only that, downloading is today's tape-trading scene (something which Metallica, with their short memories clouded by money, forgot).

Agreed. I have never, and will never, buy anything with DRM - with the exception of DVDs, since macrovision doesn't work anyways and I can copy all my DVDs with ease (plus my player is region free on top of that).

Well it sounds that MTV might give the album some promotion. GNR has already used the web for the leaks, so they definatly have a knowledge of downloading and things. Im sure itll have tons of promotion in a fairly short time.

IRS got into the top 100 radioplay chart. and that was just a leak with no promotion at all. im sure the single will have no problem.

I cant see the first single being something weve already heard. in 2002 didnt Axl say that the new songs that were played live wern't being considered for singles?

Yup, but at that time Better, IRS, TWAT, and CITR hadn't leaked. So it could be one of those. Who knows. I'm hoping it's something new.

I would love to see an official CD single in the stores - with an alternate mix of the same song as track #2 and a NON-CD song as track #3. :hihi:

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Me too. I'm hoping for alternate versions of songs as well. I know they've been mentioned at least a few times through the years.

It's a disgrace that he's advertising his own album? You're in for some major disappointments when Chi Dem drops then.

I thought Better, IRS and TWAT was released by the record company but CITR, IRS '99 and TWAT '99 was from another source?

I still think the first single will be prositute. I dont see it being IRS or Better. Also TWAT could be a 2nd single because most times the first single is always a rocker and the 2nd is a ballad.

TWAT is too long for major crossover radio airplay. The Blues or Catcher in the Rye would be just right. I'll bet it is the Blues. I don't know what the first single will be but it won't be anything we have heard. Better would be a good third single then on to the next album!

It'd be pretty cool if they did that.  I'd expect for us to have the leak a few weeks before the album drops.  So, if the album hits stores in november.. I'm hoping to hear it 4-5 weeks.

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I agree on most points, but I believe that CD will ultimately reach the successful sales of past albums.. maybe even surpass them.  The release will get media attention globally - It'll make CNN on the day that it's released.

My huge idea would be for Axl to streak across Regis and Kelly (as in "run fast" not "run nude") and then shout, "DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!" while giving his famous fingers up. Regis gets a shitload of viewers and people would be amazed, Regis could then pretend to be surprised and be like, "Wow, WOW, ladies and gentleman, Axl goshdarn Rose is here!"

Then he could interview Axl and when Axl gives the release date, Regis says, "Is that ya FINAL ANSWA?!" Then Regis could announce that he's coming back to Who Wants to be a Millionaire and Axl would be the first celebrity guest.

Man that would be nice. Or maybe Axl performing on The Today Show.

Huge idea for first single? release it.

though i do think it will be better, its catchy enough to get peoples attention, it's similar enough to wat's popular right now so it has an audience, and it's different enough so it won't blend into the background hum.

I think the name of this post should be "An idea for first single"

what is the difference

maybe multiple sinlges like limp bizkit did that one year