Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Okay, I'm very confused people and I need help sorting this out...  First of all, I live in Tampa, Florida and was expecting to watch the Inland Invasion show of GNR.  The bill had GNR starting at 10:00 PM Pacific Time, so I was expecting them to start at around 2:00 AM my time (accounting for lateness)...  So anyway, at 1:50 AM GNR began to play...  So that has to mean that they started at about 10:50 PM Pacific time...  WHY ARE ALL THESE ARTICLES (see below) being printed that GNR "didn't hit the stage until 1am"??  If that was the case, the show would have started at 4:00 AM my time, and that was just not so....  Now, all I hear are these stupid DJ's here in Tampa bashing Axl and GNR... They are saying that because GNR were so late, many fans left...  Help me people!!  Am I crazy??  (EDITED VERSION)

GUNS N' ROSES' first southern California show for 14 years fell on largely deaf ears on Saturday night (23SEP06) as fans gave up on the group after frontman AXL ROSE arrived on stage an hour late. The SWEET CHILD O' MINE rockers were slated to headline the Inland Invasion festival just before midnight, but unpredictable Rose didn't hit the Hyundai Pavilion stage until 1am. By then, many fans had already drifted off after watching the likes of MUSE and actor JARED LETO's band 30 SECONDS TO MARS, and more left when Rose and his new-look group started playing new material instead of hits. But Rose, 44, was undeterred by the dwindling crowds and impressed those who stayed with a two-hour set fuelled by his gym workout-like performance. Fan DAVID GRINT says, "Axl was amazing. It wasn't always pretty but he can still hit the high notes and he's still all-energy. "Unfortunately, there were a lot of breaks for costume changes and a few too many guitar solos and new songs." Among the highlights were a cover of CHRISTINA AGUILERA's BEAUTIFUL and a duet with SKID ROW's SEBASTIAN BACH on Guns N' Roses fan favourite MY MICHELLE.

SOURCE: http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/guns%20n%20roses%20fans%20desert%20group%20at%201am%20homecoming_1009185

To me it's just another case of people making stuff up if they have to in order to write something bad.

Of course they (Axl) were late. People Were leaving, and the show was in minutes of turning into a riot. Just because some of you might find it "negative" doesn't make it not true.

What I'm saying is that they were scheduled for 10:00 PM Pacific Time (2:00 AM Eastern Time) and WTTJ started playing at 2:00 AM Eastern Time...  How were they late?  (Unless my math is wrong, I thought there was a four hour time difference between Pacific and Eastern time, correct??)...

Besides, the Article says they didn't hit the stage until 1:00 AM which I know is way wrong..

They came on a little bit before 11pm Ca time, because I live In Chicago and they came on a little before 1am. There is a 2 hour difference between Chicago and Ca, and a 3 hour difference between Fl and Ca. No GNR show starts before 11pm so what is their problem?

You're getting things mixed up dude. 10 PM pacific time is not 4 hours behind eastern time. It's 3 hours. So 10 PM pacific is 1 AM your time. I turned on the webcast at 12 AM central (1 hour behind you and 2 hours ahead of California) expecting it to come on (well hoping they'd come on). But they didn't come on until 50 minutes later, which is 50 minutes late according to the 10 PM start time.

Okay, so if its a 3 hour difference that explains the first part...  But where they got "they didn't hit the stage until 1am" I have no idea....  And I've heard the "1am" part over and over....

If they claimed that, they're full of shit. GN'R went on stage at 10:50 PM pacific time. Perhaps they were in the central part of the country watching the webcast like me? It was 12:50 AM when they went on according to my watch.

Idiots who start riots are just looking for reasons to excuse their bad behaviour.

i've read the same stupidity, they don't bother to qualify the 1AM with WHICH TIMEZONE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!  Was watching too, they came on about 1:50 AM CST, or 11:50 PM PST

Negative and false are two different things. The original question was whether or not the band went on close to 1am as this review claims.

Right... And what bothers me is that I have to listen to these stupid DJ's who read those articles bad mouth Axl and GNR when they are giving the listeners the wrong facts...   I know GNR are always late, but they aren't THAT late!!!  And that sends people wrong impressions of a band that needs more good press...

I think that you should call them up and set things straight.

I just wanted to get things straight for myself... I was very confused!   ;)

That's cool.

they were late, it was around 8.50 am here, that is 10.50 pm in Los Angeles.

anyway the strange part of that article is this:"and more left when Rose and his new-look group started playing new material instead of hits".

and the good part:
" But Rose, 44, was undeterred by the dwindling crowds and impressed those who stayed with a two-hour set fuelled by his gym workout-like performance."

so let's take the good part, while waiting for another show and the CD.

nobody is reading the reviews of the inland invasion.
the andy warholl thing made much bigger bad publicity.
it's in daily magazines everywhere.
I dont see why my thread was deleted ???

Dude, maybe not... BUT MANY DJ's HAVE...  And they are spreading those reviews to their listening audience.... People might not have read the reviews, but they listen to morning radio...  I've heard atleast 4 different DJ's in the past couple of days remark about the fact that GNR didn't show up until 1:00 AM...  Which was not true...  It spreads a bad message to the same radio listeners who are the target audience for GNR's upcoming shows...

Who writes a review for a show they are not at the show? The guy lied. It should not have to say what time zone he is in because he should be in the western time zone since that is where the show was.

I heard about it and I live in CT... stupid that they even bother discussing such a rumor here... anything to pick on Axl...

i hope that at least some of them are watching MTV.
MTV says GnR were late but the show was great.

They were still putting the stage together at 10:30 (testing the lights and special effects)  the band went on 15 min after that (10:45).  not only that but AIC went on a bit longer than expected which pushed the stage set up back a bit.  I have been to GN'R shows where they were an hour and a half late, but IMO this wasn't really their fault.  As far as fans getting out of control - even if it were GN'R's fault there is no excuse for rioting and the fans should be called out, not the band - I don't care how late they are.

Well I've read a few articles titled "Axl gone broke" thanks to the statement in the Warholl incident...
I think that makes Axl look like Michael Jackson in the eyes of the public, especially when they use the "Ali G"/Axl photoshop.

Good point because MTV articles are going to get read just as much if not more then the other ones......MTV almost always hooks up GNR with a good review....and rightfully so.... :peace:

Guns N' Roses Take On Aguilera, Chester Bennington Joins Alice In Chains At Inland Invasion
09.25.2006 4:14 PM EDT

Muse, Avenged Sevenfold, 30 Seconds to Mars also rock KROQ's end-of-summer festival. 
Guns N' Roses' Axl Rose performs at KROQ's Inland Invasion 5
Photo: Jeff Kravitz/ FilmMagic.com 

DEVORE, California ? Muse came to KROQ's sixth annual end-of-summer Inland Invasion festival on Saturday armed with an extra set. Just in case.

"We played with Guns N' Roses once before and they didn't show up, so we had to play longer."singer Matthew Bellamy explained backstage. "So we have plenty of songs ready."

At 10:50 p.m., nearly two hours after the previous band had left the stage, it was looking like those songs were going to come in handy. After all, something needed to calm the edgy crowd, who were booing, throwing full cups of beer (even at $11.50 each!) and starting fires in the lawn section.

Fortunately ? and fittingly ? just as another army of security guards was rushing in, the stage went dark and the familiar guitar riff of "Welcome to the Jungle" rang through the speakers.

"Do you know where the f--- you are?" Axl Rose asked in his signature squeal. Well, yeah, we've been here for 10 hours now.

But really, Southern Californians have waited 14 years for Rose to return to the stage, what was another few hours? And at least we got a full show.

Guns N' Roses treated the sold-out Hyundai Pavilion audience to a 19-song, hit-filled set featuring all but three tracks from Appetite for Destruction and only four new songs. There were a few surprises ? guitarists Robin Finck and Richard Fortus played an instrumental version of Christina Aguilera's "Beautiful," and Skid Row singer Sebastian Bach joined in on "My Michelle" ? but it was mostly Rose doing what he does best: wailing, posing and snake-dancing to songs from "Sweet Child O' Mine" to "You Could Be Mine."

Axl's four costume changes were unnecessary and even the metal-mocking Sunset Strip faves Metal Skool don't solo this much, but it was still the kind of show you hold your bladder for. Watching Rose, whose rare banter was more geeky excitement than mysterious vanity, joke about their downloaded tracks and jump on to Dizzy Reed's grand piano during the unreleased ballad "The Blues" were must-see moments, even for the many musicians who stuck around to catch a glimpse.

"It's a dream come true for me," Buckcherry singer Josh Todd said backstage. "Guns N' Roses really inspired me when I was a youth."

"I wish I could go back to my 14-year-old self and say, 'Hey, you're going to be opening for Guns N' Roses,'" added Rise Against singer Tim McIlrath.

GN'R, of course, weren't the only anticipated reunion act at Inland Invasion, as Alice in Chains also entertained the crowd with a greatest-hits set.

Singer William DuVall matched the late Layne Staley's vocals to a T, but the highlight was a cameo from Linkin Park's Chester Bennington, who sang "Man in the Box" with as much conviction as the original.

"I just came out to see Muse and as soon as I got here I was asked if I would sing," Bennington said beforehand. "I'm kind of nervous. I'm like on recall, going through it in my head."

Backstage, it seemed everyone was raving about Muse, a bit of a shock considering they were the odd men out on the metal-leaning bill. Perhaps it's because the British rockers instantly won over the crowd by opening with their latest ? and biggest-to-date ? single, "Knights of Cydonia," and then took the audience on a ride through their progressive catalog.

Avenged Sevenfold and Buckcherry (riding a huge comeback wave through SoCal with their infectious single "Crazy Bitch") might have been more appropriate openers for GN'R than Muse and Alice in Chains, but it was nice to spread the sleaze-rock around the bill.

The former, whose M. Shadows announced it was their last show before returning to the studio, brought a whole lot of Sunset Strip flavor to their show in the form of four, ahem, dancers, who came out of their cages to seduce to the singer for the "Bat Country" finale.

30 Seconds to Mars went with a visually stimulating show of a different sort, taking the stage from the back of the venue, wearing all-white ninja costumes and masks and carrying flags.

When he wasn't shaking hands with fans or climbing around the stage, singer Jared Leto was expressing sincere gratitude for their newfound fanbase.

After reminiscing about coming to KROQ shows as a fan and sneaking from the lawn to the front of the stage, Leto dedicated the band's breakthrough single, "The Kill," to the people in the back, telling them, "Don't be scared, just don't get caught."

Atreyu, Rise Against and Papa Roach also took the stage Saturday, with the latter mixing in their earlier rap-rock favorites with cuts from the just-released The Paramour Sessions.

"We're going to do everything possible to steal the show," singer Jacoby Shaddix said backstage. "I know it's hard with GN'R, but you got to set the bar high."

For more sights and stories from concerts around the country, check out MTV News Tour Reports.

Some articles did get the time right... There are still a couple of incorrect articles floating around however...

So Alice In Chains went over the limit and Gnr Needed a half hour to set up their gear, they have a lot of members after all they're not like a 3 piece or anything.  15 extra minutes, i'm proud.