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Title: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 23, 2006, 03:05:05 PM Anyone think Ron may rerecord some parts?
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: GeraldFord on September 23, 2006, 03:06:52 PM It was reported that they are just going to mix it, right? I hope Ron doesn't redo any work, just release the fucking thing already!
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: Mandy. on September 23, 2006, 03:08:06 PM Or, maybe he could just take some time off. ;)
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: madagas on September 23, 2006, 03:10:41 PM didn't Merck say that the rest of the post was bullshit...meaning Dubai and going back in the studio? ::)
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 23, 2006, 03:10:54 PM Oh just mixing. Hopefull they drop the single soon
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: gnr2006 on September 23, 2006, 03:14:09 PM Or, maybe he could just take some time off. ;) I'm sure he would like that. The last couple months must have been crazy for him, learning everything, fitting in, etc. The rest of the band is a little more conditioned for it. It would be good for him to take a quick break before the next long run. Congrats on your 2000th post, Mandy. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: madagas on September 23, 2006, 03:16:02 PM The US tour starts on the 20th of October in Jacksonville and the shows that were due to take place between the 27th of September and the 2nd of October have just been moved to fit into the body of the tour. There will be an announcement next week of the entire tour. The rest of the below message is crap. The album will be out this year as Axl has previously stated.
from Merck and confirmed by Jarmo - going back in the studio to mix the album--that part is "crap." :hihi: The source continues.. "After Sept 23rd, the band goes into studio to complete final mixing of the album, and the album will come out before December" ... "Towards new years, they will fly to Miami for a show... and ON new years eve, they plan to perform in Dubai" ... take it for what it is, still a rumour.? ?CRAP! Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: grog mug on September 23, 2006, 03:17:29 PM It BETTER have Buckethead's parts on it. Just listen to the solos in Better and I.R.S...they are brilliant. Ron is a very good technical player, maybe the best. But Buckethead's parts will set this album off.
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: November_Rain on September 23, 2006, 03:18:43 PM I could be wrong but I think I read somewhere that Ron said he wasn?t going to record any parts of the record. Also, this would delay the record and wouldn?t be ready for this fall as Axl said.
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: Bumblefeet on September 23, 2006, 03:26:53 PM It was reported that they are just going to mix it, right? I hope Ron doesn't redo any work, just release the fucking thing already! [spot on!! but i cant take anything away from the guy he is a genius!/quote] Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: Ali on September 23, 2006, 03:33:34 PM What post are you guys referring to? What's this about going to the studio?
I talked to Ron before the first SF show and he flatly stated he is not and will not be on the album. He joined the band too late for that. Ali Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: November_Rain on September 23, 2006, 03:36:09 PM What post are you guys referring to? What's this about going to the studio? Yes, I was referring to that. I think he told it to another fan too because I remember having read it before, I think it was in mygnr but I?m not sure.I talked to Ron before the first SF show and he flatly stated he is not and will not be on the album. He joined the band too late for that. Ali Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: Christian on September 23, 2006, 03:46:53 PM if the cd is really at Andy Wallace's mixing time and they're going back to studio to check listen etc the final mixing.. so i don't think ron will redo any parts...
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: bazgnr on September 23, 2006, 03:50:07 PM It would be great to have Ron on the album, but it will be better to have CD in my hands before the holidays. Hopefully, Ron will record on many albums to come...
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: GnR-NOW on September 23, 2006, 03:55:41 PM I would keep buckets parts on it, i mean just listen to shit like big sur moon, or nottingham lace studio versions. no disrespect to ron, i think hes great for the band, has the look to fit the part, fan friendly, great assett to the band, but for this album, id keep buckethead on it. then redo with ron whatever other songs they plan to release
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: nesquick on September 23, 2006, 05:50:50 PM Anyone think Ron may rerecord some parts? hmmmm... actually no. I hope Richard and/or Robin would do it (if it's ever done). Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: BurningHills on September 23, 2006, 06:04:37 PM Merck said there's no truth to the rumor that they're going back to the studio. Stop spreading bullshit rumors so that they spread even furthur.
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: HoldenCaulfield on September 23, 2006, 06:20:05 PM Merck said there's no truth to the rumor that they're going back to the studio. Stop spreading bullshit rumors so that they spread even furthur. Well then, what else would the band be doing between today and Oct. 20th? They're not going to be taking another break... Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: Aquila on September 23, 2006, 06:38:40 PM Anyone think Ron may rerecord some parts? hmmmm... actually no. I hope Richard and/or Robin would do it (if it's ever done). In other words piss all over the best guitar parts on the album? Yeah, that would be awesome! Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: busngabb on September 23, 2006, 07:01:52 PM It don't matter much.
If you gave Ron Thal a few days in a studio with the calibre of technicians that GNR has at its disposal, he could re-record the entire album to the same quality. The guy is a A+ guitarist. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: mikegiuliana on September 23, 2006, 07:37:13 PM back in the studio, shouldn't they have had the product ready before even doing aUSA tour?
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: King Sand on September 23, 2006, 09:19:04 PM Merck said there's no truth to the rumor that they're going back to the studio. Stop spreading bullshit rumors so that they spread even furthur. Well then, what else would the band be doing between today and Oct. 20th? They're not going to be taking another break... Who knows what they're doing... Maybe shooting a video for the single?? Prepping for the album's release?? Selecting the cover artwork?? Who knows... But they're not recording! Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: jameslofton29 on September 23, 2006, 09:38:51 PM It don't matter much. Is that a joke?? He makes IRS and Better sound like cosmic jokes. No way in hell could he re-record the album in a few days. Well, he could. But it would be sub par at best. I want these songs to shine. Hard to belive that some people want mediocrity. If you gave Ron Thal a few days in a studio with the calibre of technicians that GNR has at its disposal, he could re-record the entire album to the same quality. The guy is a A+ guitarist. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: The Legend on September 24, 2006, 05:26:31 AM This 'back in the studio' thing has become a freakin' joke.
But at least this time it's bullshit. I highly doubt they are gonna re-record Bucket's stuff with Ron, and 'cause even further delays. This year Axl publicly said (for the first time) the album would be released, but they've only got two months left. I highly doubt they are gonna lay new guitar tracks down. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: diablo280273 on September 24, 2006, 06:07:14 AM I personaly think that the back in the studio thing is bullshit. The shows probably weren't selling enough without the record or a single being released so the decided to rescedule them. ;)
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: TheDoomMerchant on September 24, 2006, 06:26:24 AM I personaly think that the back in the studio thing is bullshit. The shows probably weren't selling enough without the record or a single being released so the decided to rescedule them.? ;) That's a good point, but i also think that they're going to spend this time finishing the product that was supposed to come out years ago. Here's to hoping... :beer: Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: mikegiuliana on September 24, 2006, 06:27:15 AM I personaly think that the back in the studio thing is bullshit. The shows probably weren't selling enough without the record or a single being released so the decided to rescedule them.? ;) could be p[ossible, beside the axl rose not buying the andy warhol pic or whatever there's zero buzz about this tour, it's kind of really quiet at least when I read the papers and magazines.. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: TheDoomMerchant on September 24, 2006, 06:34:07 AM I personaly think that the back in the studio thing is bullshit. The shows probably weren't selling enough without the record or a single being released so the decided to rescedule them.? ;) could be p[ossible, beside the axl rose not buying the andy warhol pic or whatever there's zero buzz about this tour, it's kind of really quiet at least when I read the papers and magazines.. It seems like there has been barely any press regarding the tour.? I remember when the Warfield shows were first announced, it wasn't really pushed or promoted.? Maybe they thought the band alone would sellout arenas without a new album out? Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: Origen on September 24, 2006, 06:35:18 AM I personaly think that the back in the studio thing is bullshit. The shows probably weren't selling enough without the record or a single being released so the decided to rescedule them.? ;) Maybe, I never thought about that. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: DemocracyRose on September 24, 2006, 07:12:56 AM from Merck and confirmed by Jarmo - going back in the studio to mix the album--that part is "crap."
Where can i read that... :) Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: Slipdisc on September 24, 2006, 07:54:43 AM It don't matter much. Is that a joke?? He makes IRS and Better sound like cosmic jokes. No way in hell could he re-record the album in a few days. Well, he could. But it would be sub par at best. I want these songs to shine. Hard to belive that some people want mediocrity. If you gave Ron Thal a few days in a studio with the calibre of technicians that GNR has at its disposal, he could re-record the entire album to the same quality. The guy is a A+ guitarist. You always hinting at mediocrity when Ron's abilities are the topic is the real joke here. I'm not saying Ron could or should record the album in a couple of days. You however, systematically give Ron way too little credits to the point of absurdity. I've listened to both Buckethead and Ron (and almost every other virtuoso) since the early nineties and when Buckethead joined I was one of the first to back him up in places like this. Ron is every bit the guitarplayer Buckethead is. Don't get me wrong, have your personal favorite as much as you like, but do so without being an ass about the guy who in the virtuoso-scene (pure as a guitarplayer and musician) is even more admired than Buckethead. -PEACE- Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: melissa on September 24, 2006, 08:55:17 AM from Merck and confirmed by Jarmo - going back in the studio to mix the album--that part is "crap." Where can i read that... :) http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=36023.0 Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: DemocracyRose on September 24, 2006, 03:33:50 PM from Merck and confirmed by Jarmo - going back in the studio to mix the album--that part is "crap." Where can i read that... :) http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=36023.0 Thanks... :) Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: Aquila on September 24, 2006, 07:23:57 PM It don't matter much. Is that a joke?? He makes IRS and Better sound like cosmic jokes. No way in hell could he re-record the album in a few days. Well, he could. But it would be sub par at best. I want these songs to shine. Hard to belive that some people want mediocrity. If you gave Ron Thal a few days in a studio with the calibre of technicians that GNR has at its disposal, he could re-record the entire album to the same quality. The guy is a A+ guitarist. You always hinting at mediocrity when Ron's abilities are the topic is the real joke here. I'm not saying Ron could or should record the album in a couple of days. You however, systematically give Ron way too little credits to the point of absurdity. I've listened to both Buckethead and Ron (and almost every other virtuoso) since the early nineties and when Buckethead joined I was one of the first to back him up in places like this. Ron is every bit the guitarplayer Buckethead is. Don't get me wrong, have your personal favorite as much as you like, but do so without being an ass about the guy who in the virtuoso-scene (pure as a guitarplayer and musician) is even more admired than Buckethead. -PEACE- for the better part of the last decade and It pisses me of when ignorant poeple think Ron is some random shredder Axl stumbled upon. Respect the virtuoso genius of the Bumblefoot people and be grateful you have a guitarist of that calibur in your favourite band because you can count the bands in the world with a similarly talented player on one hand. Having said that, I'd rather Bucket's stuff is left as it is. Ron will get his chance. I wanna hear Bucket's work so badly and that way, we get to hear both. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on September 24, 2006, 07:34:20 PM It don't matter much. Is that a joke?? He makes IRS and Better sound like cosmic jokes. No way in hell could he re-record the album in a few days. Well, he could. But it would be sub par at best. I want these songs to shine. Hard to belive that some people want mediocrity. If you gave Ron Thal a few days in a studio with the calibre of technicians that GNR has at its disposal, he could re-record the entire album to the same quality. The guy is a A+ guitarist. Cosmic jokes? Whatever dude...prepare to be blown away at Arco. We all know the album is not going to have Ron's parts, but stop insulting the guy. He shined on the new songs, and you haven't seen him live or heard many booy legs, so your statements can be likened to slander. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: madagas on September 24, 2006, 07:40:47 PM You Big Dummy (I love that Avatar), James has probably heard all the boots. I tend to agree with him. Bumble is good on some songs, not so good on others. I think he shreds more than Bucket. Bucket has a little more subtelty in his playing. IMO. :-\
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on September 24, 2006, 07:43:01 PM He hasn't. He has dial-up, YouTube takes too long and he's not big into bootlegs and downloads. He's just a big time BH fan, that's cool and everything but jeez...when Ron's gone he'll be bagging on the next guy and praising Ron.
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: flickn on September 24, 2006, 07:46:55 PM I want to see more proof that this album and a tour is indeed going to happen . I took vacation time to see them perform in california in the next three months , and with the shows being re scheduled , I just can't walk up to my boss and be like " excuse me , I need to change my vacation time".I am only 1 in 40 employees .
Thanxs for nothing Axl rose !!! Why don't axl come on this board and explain his situation , rather having people , or people who are on the inside do it for him. Once again THank you Axl , I got screwed , trying to be a fan Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: Nytunz on September 24, 2006, 07:56:11 PM i dont think Ron will play on this album. If they are going to realease it this year, there aint much time for that..
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: duga on September 24, 2006, 08:06:56 PM 100% Buckethead please :yes:
Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: jameslofton29 on September 26, 2006, 10:50:36 PM It don't matter much. Is that a joke?? He makes IRS and Better sound like cosmic jokes. No way in hell could he re-record the album in a few days. Well, he could. But it would be sub par at best. I want these songs to shine. Hard to belive that some people want mediocrity. If you gave Ron Thal a few days in a studio with the calibre of technicians that GNR has at its disposal, he could re-record the entire album to the same quality. The guy is a A+ guitarist. You always hinting at mediocrity when Ron's abilities are the topic is the real joke here. I'm not saying Ron could or should record the album in a couple of days. You however, systematically give Ron way too little credits to the point of absurdity. I've listened to both Buckethead and Ron (and almost every other virtuoso) since the early nineties and when Buckethead joined I was one of the first to back him up in places like this. Ron is every bit the guitarplayer Buckethead is. Don't get me wrong, have your personal favorite as much as you like, but do so without being an ass about the guy who in the virtuoso-scene (pure as a guitarplayer and musician) is even more admired than Buckethead. -PEACE- Garry and Aquila, take a long walk off a short pier. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: BluesGNR on September 26, 2006, 11:19:06 PM It don't matter much. Is that a joke?? He makes IRS and Better sound like cosmic jokes. No way in hell could he re-record the album in a few days. Well, he could. But it would be sub par at best. I want these songs to shine. Hard to belive that some people want mediocrity. If you gave Ron Thal a few days in a studio with the calibre of technicians that GNR has at its disposal, he could re-record the entire album to the same quality. The guy is a A+ guitarist. Cosmic jokes?? Whatever dude...prepare to be blown away at Arco.? We all know the album is not going to have Ron's parts, but stop insulting the guy.? He shined on the new songs, and you haven't seen him live or heard many booy legs, so your statements can be likened to slander. First off, it'd be libel and not slander. Secondly, a simple defense against such an allegation would be the TRUTH. I find a lot of that in his statement... Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some parts Post by: the dirt on September 26, 2006, 11:40:17 PM I havn't seen one solid form of proof that Buckethead will be on the album.
And since this is such a collaborative effort what are the chances of dual creditations happening? Such as solo and bridge by Zakk Wylde/played by Robin... Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: ben9785 on September 27, 2006, 12:14:49 AM I havn't seen one solid form of proof that Buckethead will be on the album. And since this is such a collaborative effort what are the chances of dual creditations happening? Such as solo and bridge by Zakk Wylde/played by Robin... See that's the mystery, there's been so many lineup changes for starters, so many started and aborted recording sessions, we don't know for sure if all the material was culled from one specific session, or if it's more cut and pasted based on different recording takes.. if chinese democacy is truly the product of about 15 years worth of collaborators, they're not gonna have enough space in the average cd booklet to fit all the credits. either that, or it'll probably be like a page per song considering the size of cd booklets. Probably even something like: 4. THIS I LOVE Lyrics by W. Axl Rose Music composed and arranged by W. Axl Rose/Zakk Wylde/Billy Howerdel/Richard Fortus/Chris Vrenna/Brain/Robin Fick/Buckethead Except String Arrangement by W. Axl Rose, Dizzy Reed, Chris Pittman, Billy Howerdel Vocals - W. Axl Rose Bass - Tommy Stinson Rythmn Guitar on first verse - Zakk Wylde Rythmn Guitar on first chorus - Robin Finck Rythmn Guitar on second verse - Billy Howerdel Lead Guitar on second verse - Richard Fortus Rythmn Guitar on second chorus - Zakk Wylde Rythmn Guitar on third verse - Robin Finck Lead Guitar on third chorus - Billy Howerdel Rythmn Guitar on third chorus - Richard Fortus Rythmn Guitar on bridge - W. Axl Rose 1st lead - Zakk Wylde Rythmn Guitar in 1st lead - Richard Fortus 2nd lead - Robin Finck Rythmn Guitar in 2nd lead - Billy Howerdel 3rd lead - Buckethead Rythmn Guitar in 3rd lead - Zakk Wylde Outro lead - Buckethead Outro guitar - Richard Fortus Acoustic Piano - W. Axl Rose Electric Piano - Dizzy Reed Strings (Synth) - Dizzy Reed, Chris Pittman Electronic / Keyboard - Chris Pittman Drums - Brain Treated Drums - Chris Vienna Produced by xxxx Mixed by xxx Engineered by xxx Recorded at xxx Mixed at xxx Engineered at xxx etc... Ok that might be over the top but hey.. who knows.. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: mdttkk on September 27, 2006, 12:48:48 AM It BETTER have Buckethead's parts on it. Just listen to the solos in Better and I.R.S...they are brilliant. Ron is a very good technical player, maybe the best. But Buckethead's parts will set this album off. nobody in america or even europe cares who buckethead is and the difference in sound, only the hardcores or buckethead fans at best. it will make no difference. Title: Re: since gnr are going back into the studio could this mean Ron may redo some p Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on September 27, 2006, 04:22:42 PM It don't matter much. Is that a joke?? He makes IRS and Better sound like cosmic jokes. No way in hell could he re-record the album in a few days. Well, he could. But it would be sub par at best. I want these songs to shine. Hard to belive that some people want mediocrity. If you gave Ron Thal a few days in a studio with the calibre of technicians that GNR has at its disposal, he could re-record the entire album to the same quality. The guy is a A+ guitarist. You always hinting at mediocrity when Ron's abilities are the topic is the real joke here. I'm not saying Ron could or should record the album in a couple of days. You however, systematically give Ron way too little credits to the point of absurdity. I've listened to both Buckethead and Ron (and almost every other virtuoso) since the early nineties and when Buckethead joined I was one of the first to back him up in places like this. Ron is every bit the guitarplayer Buckethead is. Don't get me wrong, have your personal favorite as much as you like, but do so without being an ass about the guy who in the virtuoso-scene (pure as a guitarplayer and musician) is even more admired than Buckethead. -PEACE- Garry and Aquila, take a long walk off a short pier. I can swim, thank you very much. |