Here Today... Gone To Hell!

not sure if this was posted or not..but steven adler was at show 2 in vegas..and later in axl's hotel room for the after party hanging out.  they were talking and hanging for a bit and steven seemed happy.

no word on if steven bowled on the lane in rose's room!@!

Sorry to be negative but how would you know this? Mike

haven't heard of that, seems cool.

i was there!....true story...if i wanted to make it up..i suppose i wouldve made up something riveting..but they were just hangin at the bar when i walked in...

Even though I'm not the biggest Adler fan it would be cool if they were friendly with each other again. Another original gunner speaking to Axl, just two more to make peace with.

Fair play on you mate! I wasnt calling you a liar I just was wandering how you knew this! Mike

Oh mY God!!! the original band is getting back together!!! thats' why all the dates have been postponed. the original guys need time to rehearse the new songs :rofl: Just kiddng.

This is pretty cool though. it's good to hear that as time has passed Axl can get on with the old guys again. Izzy and Steven. next it will be Duff and eventually Slash. It will happen. Maybe not a reunion but a reconciliation. : ok:? Steven always seemed so devestated and maybe rightfully so whe he was dismissed from Gn'R. Probably feels the same way Dave Mustaine feels kinda. Maybe not quite.

I'd rather hang out with groupies than Adler lol.

Adler was ther Sunday night?   You'd think we'd of known about it if an ex-gunner was in the crowd.  :yes:  I definitely didn't see him.

i saw him on the way out after the show..he was by the entrance where the main floor lets out by the elevator that goes up to the "vip"ish area...where you needed a pass..so i cant say he viewed the show..but i saw him at the end.  I was upstairs and didnt see him up there...

yeah... and probably the two most important: Slash and Duff.
I'm sure they just need to talk. After so much time, there may be much less "hate" between them than the fans think. They are in their 40's/mid 40's. They learnt to respect each other over the years, they grew-up, they are mature adults now.
I'd like to see them onstage all together playing a show in Paris before I die. I'd like them to do it before they get old. It is still time to do it. They are not "too old" yet. If I had to choose one dream, that would probably be that one.

You always got the impression that that Axl and Duff didn't part company on such bad terms, it's pure speculation but I don't think Duff and Axl have too much to sort out, Axl and Slash is the biggy.

not realy like Adler , but if it true it realy cool news  :yes:

bet this has got matt sorum sweating a bit!

why are people talking about a reunion?   ::)  the band is on tour and there wont be any former members on board unless Izzy makes guest appearances.  :smoking:   

Nobodies really suggesting a reunion at this point JB, but the fact that Axl and Adler were seen talking ogether is still quite big news.

Maybe some wounds have been healed with the time but that doesn?t mean a reunion is around the corner ::)

Again nobody is talking abotu a reunion. People are just say that it's nice to see that they are talking again.

Erm I never said it was, the fact that Axl has apparently made up with 3 former band members he had previosly fallen out with is newsworthy. Apart from Bono who was joking nobody mentioned a reunion round the corner and I certainly didn't ?::)

Maybe Axl just needs better security. ? :hihi:

Was Axl talking to Steven or was it just Steven talking to Axl? ?And what shape was Steven in?

Good to hear if it's true. It must have made Steven happy

I hope this is true :)
I think it made Steven happy too..I'd love to hear more about this

I have a friend who knows Adler pretty well. She met him through Jizzy Pearl, she thinks ALOT more highly of Steven then I do. I will try to ask her to check with him and get a confirmation on this.

i would love this to be true, but i will not beleive it till i see some pics or some sorta statement, i mean, its well documented when ex members talk again with axl. : ok:

sounds cool. if its true. but the only former gnr member i want  on stage with axl here and there is just izzy  ;)  :hihi:

It would be cool if Adler played a song with the new band and Izzy, like in Europe.

i dont see axl removing any of his current members to let any of the former mebers play, its easy for aguitarist or basist even a singer in bachs case but how would steven work

3 drummers at once - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozcn707iUCM

I think it's true. hnb has connections with Dizzy (maybe one of the Hookers N' Blow member?). ;)

hnb is legit, you can trust him.

from what i know adler is still a big time junkie so why would axl even talk to that clown

You think Axl like runs away or something when he sees someone who does drugs?

 I don't think the fact that someone uses heroin or whatnot is gonna make him avoid them for a conversation.

And then you said:

"i was there!....true story...if i wanted to make it up..i suppose i wouldve made up something riveting..but they were just hangin at the bar when i walked in..."

You contradicted yourself, didn't you??

I don't care if it is true.  I hope Steven never comes back into the GN'R fold.  He's an idiot. 

Without concrete proof, I'm calling bullshit. Sorry. No offense man, but you have 50 posts, no-one's gonna take you seriously.

*IF* its true, good for Adler and Axl though. It seems as though Axl is definitely a changed man these days. From having Izzy come on tour with them, to hanging out with Sorum in NYC after the one Hammerstein show, and now, *IF* its true, making amends with Adler - its definitely a good thing, and I guarantee it made Adler's day to know that Axl has let bygones be bygones.

thats cool if its true ive always been a huge adler fan

did he shake hands with axl and when it happened did axl lean back :hihi:

That's probably the biggest mistake you can make when judging a poster's credibility.

There's people who only post when they have something to say, which means they don't have 15000 posts....




/jarmo

 :rant:  ok, it's time ta understand that we r all fooled by this cheap story, if we should believe it then we must see a pic of them together these days....,got it babies?  ::)

adler lives in vegas.   it's not out of the question.

hahaha great there lennonisgod.. i don't say this guy is lying.. but when you say stuff like true story and such things, that almost always means that you wanna convince people real bad that you're not lying and yeah you know where i'm going haha..

Just a tip to some of you, Axl's suite had a fucking bowling lane...I'm quite sure there was a private bar area there too .  Layy off HnB, he's legit    : ok:

He was probably passed out on the floor. :hihi:
Okay, no more stupid posts from me for a while.

What the hell does everyone here have against Adler? Ya , he has made mistakes but who hasn't. I wish the best for the guy, either playing on his own, or one day again with Guns.

As long as he's clean, I don't mind him, but youknow Civil War had to be re-mixed 60 times because of his drug problems? He must be impossible to work with, even today.

Doesn't Adler post on his own website? I've never seen it, but that's what I've heard. If it's true, this shouldn't be too hard to confirm.

It is sad and pathetic that Adler took what to most people is a dream, and pissed it all away. Strokes, a heart attack, and still a junkie. He seems like a very unhappy man.

But I hope he did get a chance to make his peace with Axl. Maybe it will help him move on in some way.

the back and forth on this is great....!...im going to go back to the broadcast on the net..sadly..no GNR live tonight..Leanne Rymes instead..not by choice..but she does have pipes.   A couple of things..axl's suite had a bowling lane 10 or more video games and strippers and fully staffed bar.  Adler and Axl were talking when i walked in..i saw no hug, handshake, or leaning back..just a conversation most likely about nothing....i won't claim to know that.  Im just saying..I saw him at the show (actually..afterward)..and then hours later saw him in the afterparty at axl's...that's pretty much it....

prob. doesn't mean anything..just meant enough to me to make a mention..nothing more..nothing less...

later....

I believe it ,didn't matt ride with axl during the spring... ? They are just people after all, they won't stay mad forever

I really hope that it is true, would be nice to think that Steven and Axl are on speaking terms and have put the past behind them. 

-how might y'all reply at lies? some mad fan comes n' posts shit here just ta get attention

then why we should believe in?

-why did adler have ta be at there when he n' axl hate each other? please show some fucking respect for us all cuz we r not retards ta believe this crap!!!!!? :rant:

That's great news :D

Hopefully this would mean Steven would be behind the kit instead of Matt if a reunion were to ever go down ;D

Matt only got a ride...but Steven?  :o  Full VIP treatment!  :hihi:

we gotta be so fucking idiots ta believe that adler is very happy these days ta visit axl while da new band makes a show  ::) .... no ex- gnr members these times who can forgive axl,?.. izzy is da only one ta do it just cuz they've both have a rare connection that makes'em be together somehow   :hihi:

Something you guys didn't know already but Axl had Izzy ring our tour manager back in early February while we were on the G2R + Adler Appetite tour asking how Steven was holding up nowadays i was in the same room when this happened. Maybe something will come of this.  : ok:

thats gotta be a pretty cool sight hnb, thanks for posting!!

i think this kind of prooves whos who in all of this media created hysteria between Axl and all the former band members...

I mean, it's pretty obvious that Axl is pretty humble about the whole thing, even with slash and duff acording to "rumors"...

He's friends withh izzy obviousely, he's met sorum even without brawling lol, i mean i'm not saying axl loves mat or anything like that... and the same goes for steven...

YES !!!!

Yea I heard this a while back, hopefully something will come out of it!  :peace:

Well let's see, IF this is true then this now means Axl has made peace with 2 original members.? If he and Slash ever see eye-to-eye again, Duff would probably follow suit which would then mean a GN'R Reunion wouldn't be out of the question.

But having said that, I would only want to see it AFTER the release of Chinese Democracy and AFTER Axl proves he is just fine without them.

Why would you reunite something that fell apart so badly in the first place. Axl obviously went from a band that didn't work to finding people that do work as GN'R, and so did Duff and Slash with VR. I don't think Axl or any of the other former members would swap that for a ticking time bomb.
And to say that Chinese Democracy is something Axl just needed to get out of his system and then discard, that, I think, is extremely disrespectful towards everybody involved with making the new GN'R record, especially Axl.

please no more reunion or new vs old please, lets stay on topic,

Maybe this might help steven, maybe talking to one of the guys that fired u, and getting a mutual understanding again might help clear his head and stay clean.

Money.? And because tons of fans are dying for it (not me, for the record).


Time heals a lot of wounds.? That, and the guys are 40-something now, not 20-something.? I'm sure they could all find a way to co-exist if they really wanted it.



I certainly didn't say "it was (is) something Axl just needed (needs) to get out of his system and then discard."? I think everyone is in full agreement that Chinese Democracy is Axl's ultimate project.? Releasing it and having it do well would not be in vain just to prove he doesn't need his former band mates.? It will be the product of something Axl loves to do, which is make music.? This will be the pinnacle of his talent and the full culmination of over 10 years of work and resolve for him and his current lineup.

What I am saying is:? IF there ever is a reunion (I don't care if there is or not, as I like the new lineup just fine), I don't want to see it until sometime after Chinese Democracy has seen the light of day and come full circle.? I already know Axl was the main creative force in the original Guns.? The proof is in the pudding.? Listen to the new GN'R, and compare to VR.? Nuff said.? But, there are those in GN'R/Axl Haterville that don't believe he can be successful without them.? Those are the ones I'd love to see proven wrong and have the truth shoved up their asses instead of seeing a reunion before the new album.? That would be the true disrespecting of all this time and people who have worked on the album.? And of course all the haters could set back and say:? "See?? Told ya he couldn't make it without them." and blah blah.


But, getting back on topic - if it's true that Axl and Adler made peace, that's great.? :peace:

I think you could argue that neither band has been as productive without Izzy as they were when they were a cumulative force with him. I mean let's be serious here, we haven't heard a rock song from either band that is anywhere close to the original Guns best work, not to mention Estranged and NR smoke the ballads from both bands we have heard so far.

So to say Axl was the main creative force is a little ass-backwards because neither he, nor the VR guys have surpassed the work they made together in their seperate bands. What was the common denominator of their work together: Izzy.

My statement wasn't meant to imply that you in particular said or felt it was something he needed to get out of his system, but rather a counter-argument to the idea that it would be easy for Axl to abandone the current GN'R and his work with them for money. I believe he has more integrity than that.

THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!

I've always liked Adler.

Reunion after the whole ChiDem saga. That's what it means.
They will be "old" but they will still play Rock n' Roll, like the Rolling Stones or something.

"Welcome to the pension", "Paradise Hospice", "Get in the Wheelchair mother fucker"  :hihi:

this is going off topic!!!!

steven is a weak junkie.....he blames axl for his heroine use..what a crock of weak ass shit.....go toa damn rehab and take the needle out of your arm and stop hooking up with guys and clean up your act
read one of setevesn recent inetrviews where he admitted to doing gay shit

Admitted it. Thats fucking funny. Its like Richard Simmons coming out of the closet. Steven sucked dick for Coke. He is fucking Chris Rock from New Jack City. Fucking white lips.

My contact says she's asked Adler twice about it and he's changed the subject both times. Not saying it didn't happen, just giving an update.

::)  ok, what we're gonna hear next : ....Axl rides a pink elephant at nights just ta joyride around L.A city?, for GOD's sake stop fakin' for once!!!  :yes:


u must show real proofs before  affirmin' something   :rant:

agh pet go away!

ya get hurt by me cuz u never show any proof befor postin' ur lies  :hihi:

so, has this story even been confirmed? if not, why hasn't this topic been locked? 

At this point I am not sure Adler would be an effective drummer. I prefer  Brain right now. So let them talk and reconcile, but  I don't want to see Steven back in the band or doing "guest" appearances a la Izzy.

all yall need to STFU about your reunion talk.  IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN! LET IT FSCKING GO!

it would be cool if they did make up, and at least got on speaking terms again, if for no other reason then because of the fact that they were friends and they have a certain history together.

I am sure any Pink Floyd you had asked in 2004 would have told you the same thing about the possibility of ever seeing David Gilmour and Roger Waters on the same stage ever again. In 2005, 25 years later, the moment happened, and it brought the house down. It may have only been 4 songs, but in the world of music, never say never.

Someone post a link to where steven says he sucked D**K.  I'd like to read that!  :rofl:

What lies did I post? How can a pet like you hurt me?

Agh go away! loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Axl has talked with Izzy, Steven (if true), Matt, Slash (if you believe the press release).

Axl give Traci, Roberta, Teddy Zig Zag, and of course Duff some love to man. :hihi:

GNR IS NOT PINK FLOYD!

That is the closest parallel in music today. The court battles over the name and band member squabbling are probably worse than GNR ever was. They also fought through the "who really was responsible for the band success" type of thing. They also all vowed they would never play with Roger again, and he the same of them.

That situation was much uglier than GNR's, and my only point was that if that canyon was able to be closed, there is hope for any band in this world that fans would like to see reunited.

Yeah.. noone really wants to hear about a reuinion in the GN'R section right now.

every word ya've said it's been a big lie from da start but that's ok, no one believes ya anyway   ::)  ....someone said that axl has talked to ex gnr members, da press could lie as well but we all gotta be fucking retards ta believe this, adler would vomit if he saw axl face ta face so why we've been here postin' something that won't be REAL ever :rant:?

 everyone knows that they all mustn't speak ta axl cuz they have nothing ta say a long long time ago  :hihi:

agh your pathetic, I didnt post that as fact I just comment on it (aprende a leer!!). I can believe what I want, I dont need a pet like you to tell me what to do.
You know nothing and I wont waste anymore time with your useless self.


GO AWAY!

axlroseven: shut the fuck up.

You're dead on. I don't get when people can't see the pararllel either. But yeah, the Floyd thing was way nastier then this has ever gotten and they still put shit aside to perform.

If there ever was a GNR reunion of any sort, I still think they'd do it with Sorum anyways.

I don't see it happening anytime soon though.

Steven and Axl made Peace, end of story..It?s confirmed by reliable sources

G8

adler used to look like a flaming poodle back in the day, wait he still does

You got that right.  Bring on the album!

And you smell as good as compensation  : ok:

reunion is always what everyone wants

I think it`s time to lock this topic. ::)...sorry, did not even read it.

this thread is lame and old...  please stop posting and let it die

The rumour is true.? ?:yes:? Straight from the Steven Adler board and posted by Brook, Stevens personal friend.?

DabrookMan
Re: Axl and Steven make peace in Vegas?
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I spoke with Deanna (Steve's mom) last night, and she confirmed that Steven had spent that entire evening hanging out with Axl, they had a great time, and were together for a good few hours. Steven had told her that "all the hate just disappeared" between them.?


http://stevenadler.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=c234126e206f96a9402f4865216433b7&topic=283.45

Of all rumors, why does this one have to be true?? I still don't believe it though. Axl is so above Steven anymore and I just can't see him even talking to the guy. I'll believe it when Axl mentions it.

i for one am happy about this....

It could be a really good thing for Steven Adler's health. As much as I don't want to see him in a reunion, I don't hate the guy either. He was a founding member of the band we all love.

I'm glad this happened.

Yeah Steve-o's a junkie and a bad person by all accounts we've heard from the people he's associated with.

But give Axl and Steve a break.  It's much healthier to be at peace with someone than to hate them vigorously.  Let it be.

i don't think Axl hates Steven, i don't thiink he ever did, all though Axl had to get rid of him for various and imo "non-musical" reasons.

I also think Axl deep down inside respects Steven alot! And i think Axl recognises Stevens awsome talent and feel a hundred times more than most people on this boars does.! And i think that there's a much bigger chance that Axl would want to reunite with steven than with Matt.

Matt knows that btw and thats why he's so fuckin' desperate lol....

Steven Adler is the real fuckin' deal!

well said Garry!!

can anyone explain to me why steven is a bad person?  last i heard he was in pretty bad shape...
sorry if you veteran posters have had to explain this to, what is it, noobs, before...

Didn't Steven almost kill Erin Everly with an  overdose of Heroin?? Or wasn't he trying to fuck her or was fucking her?? Anyone remember the incident a little better?? I would have to look it up to be sure, but I do know the OD incident happened.  I think that was towards the end of Steven being in the band.

Yep gave er a dose of coke and herion I beleive.. speedball I think its called
Axl went fuckin mad.. nearly killed er.. I pretty sure that was the final nail in his coffin and booted out the band!

well,it will be great to see steven on drums (anyway gnr haven't drumer now)

i'm sure that steven is clean now,because there are small chances to be alive after 25 years of taking heroin

What makes you think he's going to be on drums all the sudden?

we already have 2 drummers who are both much much better suited for Guns N Roses.   

There you have it folks!

Confirmed by none other than Steven's mom : ok:

You do wonder if things like this are because Axl wants to get them all back on side for a reunion somewhere down the road. Just Slash and Duff to go now,

Duff is next, followed closely behind by Slash ;)

according to the band he was touring with in the summer he's still using.

according to Steven he tried to help her,Erins friend gave her the speedball and then Steven saw it or something like that.Think he says it in the interview he did with..was it metalsludge?it's three parts or something.

but,you never know

I loved that blond popcorn pretty boy.  I just feel sorry for him, I'm glad Axl and him 'supposedly' made up.

I think it's obvious Axl just wants to make sure he has a replacement for when Frank gets his woman pregnant and takes off with Fortus to do some love spit love shows.  :hihi:

love spit love reunion starts now!

Axl was in town, Steven was there, they met and talked.

So suddenly there's a reunion? Please...

Axl also met Gilby in 2000 (and performed with him). He's still waiting for a phone call to join the band too? ?::)




/jarmo

*can picture gilby alone in a big empty room with just a phone muttering over and over "it's gunna ring , it's gunna ring , it has to ring!"*  :hihi:

the phone rings now!!!  ;D

Jung said that all mental illness was based in a spiritual wounding. If Steven went into Analysis with a Jungian Therapist he might be able to pull his life back into focus to move forward. The issue is not the drugs, drugs are a symptom of the issues... more drugs and more focus on what he thinks (happened or didn't happen) won't help (or what anyone here speculates for that matter).?

Steven has been running over that ground to long as it is (like a rat in a cage), and it gets him back to nowhere (circling the train wreck repeatedly after the fact doesn?t stop it).

 Not like anyone in Rock N Roll is really all that sane. Life wasn't sane for them and trying to reconcile it to sanity is INSANE. The mean in the rock n roll scene has done nothing for our culture or country...

Whatever happened that night it was Ax's wife.. You can?t think he would have been the picture of rational and the truth may be lost in the versions. What is apparently not lost is some growth as human beings, staying mad forever is not healthy. Good for Axl, this meeting cost him nothing. It could help Steven. Of course the fact that Stevens brother Jamie increases his paranoia with his judgments and attempts to control and lie to Steven about people in his life doesn?t help at all?he has motive (financial) to do this, does he have the integrity to get him in some therapy that might actually work?

Why anyone on this board Bashes Steven is beyond me, especially if you listen to the music he helped create...Taking pleasure in someone?s pain is sick. If you aren?t part of the solution get the hell out of the way?.

i don't talking about reunion,and i don't want it
i like new guys,and they deserve chance,also i think new songs are very good
but it's obviously axl have a trouble with drummers,so steven (if he is clean) is good choice

i like this guy more than mat sorum

also i think that we will have reunion with izzy and steven,i don't care for slash and duff(because their replecmentes are better)

also,if we are talking about old band,i think end of the band was in 1991 when izzy gone
Axl and izzy were most inportant men in old band(my thought)

i thought steven wanted to punch axl in the face and hated him loads. i was very shocked to read this.

I think steven has always talked pretty warmly of axl although he admits he feels screwd over...

He might have talked warm about him to hold the dor open for a reunion tho..

Can't believe I'm only reading this now. That's great news, I always wanted those two guys to reconcile. When Steven left GnR that was the first crack in the band... I'm glad to see Axl bringing back GnR, even if they are mostly new members. The new GnR sounds great but anyone who knocks the old band members is probably just too young to appreciate what these guys meant to us back then. If Steven ever performed with Axl again it would be mega!! He's still Guns n Roses. Listen to 'Appetite', he kicks ass!!

Don't know you, but i like you, you're clever, and wrote about kindness.

izzy makes peace with axl, axl steven make peace.  just duff and slash left.
                                 Can anyone say REUNION?


I feel a one off special reunion concert to benefit homeless children comin on.

Wouldn't we rather see Chinese Democracy and the full-blown impact that the CURRENT band can have on the music world once it's unleashed?  It is great that Izzy played in NYC, Europe, and the L.A. shows and we all welcome his playing and contributions, but the rest of the band would truly be a nostalgia act.  Axl, Tommy, Brain/Frank, Robin, Bumble, Richard, Dizzy, and Pittman are what this band is all about right now...not Slash, not Adler, not Duff McKagan or for that matter Sorum, Gilby, Tracy Guns or Buckethead.  These guys rock!  I saw them twice this year; 15 years after the last time I saw the old GnR.  This is not 15 years ago, it is today.  Yesterday, there were so many things I was never told....now that I'm starting to learn...I know BETTER.

i agree with you 123191..But the ending on your post was cheesy, hahaha

Right on Brother  :beer:

Same here. That's the best that could happen in GN'R's world.
There are a lot of bands (including Led Zeppelin) doing reunions this year, I hope GN'R will do the same. It would be HUGE.

OK, but once we've seen the impact, can we have a reunion ?

Thanks in advance. ;)

Zeppelin? Are you the only one who knows about this? Or have I missed something?

l think its great the way Adler and Axl have spoken to each other again,l mean first it was Izzy then it was Matt and now its Steven, l think that it would be great if Steven went on tour like the way Izzy did. lt would be really good though if the original line-up were still together, but it will never happen again because one man thought he was GUNS N ROSES and it was Axl Rose

Talkin' about reunion huh? Steven said he wouldn't do it unless if it'd be the original band :hihi: But anyway, I think it's cool they talked to each other. Wonder what Steven thinks now..

Absolutley agree. I think the majority of people who do take pleasure in bashing Adler are probably the younger fans, IMO. Fans who were really too young to remember GN'R Appetite HEYDAY! I mean I think Mantia and Ferrar are great but Adler made huge contributions to the band. One of those contributions is called APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION. I'm sure most of you have heard of it.? I don't think fans should remember Adler as the junkie drummer. You guys can say what you want about this guy, but how many of you can say you contributed to the greatest rock album of all time.

Look at my end quote below at what Izzy had to say about Steve's departure

shutup about a fucking reunion.     Axl and Adler have a conversation one evening almost 6 months ago in vegas and you people are crying reunion.    ::)

how bout some respect for the band as it is now?   as tommy said, 'get on board or fuck off.'  couldn't have been said better.

You are a very moving speaker.? I'm guessing about 16.? ?: ok:

And I'm guessing you're stuck in 1987.  :P



All you reunion people, go hang out in Dead Horse. Thanks.  : ok:



/jarmo

did you guys know, that axl also made peace with matt sorum this year? :hihi:

3 drummers at once - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozcn707iUCM

Can't Imagine :confused:

Zeppelin isn't having a reunion, the article this guy is basing his information from was written back in 2003 after how the west was won was released. All they did was re-post the article with the current date on it.

actually i was 16 about 10 years ago.. when the last of the ex-members in the original lineup left the band.   

dont get me wrong, I think its cool Axl and Steven made amends or peace or whatever.  Thats a good thing because it sucks to harbor hate for other people.   But al the crying for a reunion is a huge slap in the face to the band that has been working hard for US this last year. : ok:

Yeah, I hear you. I just want the Cd at this point too. The silence is just getting really old.   :-[

We are all eagerly awaiting. :drool:

I'm not at all stuck in 1987. I just think it's funny how alot of people like to go on about how the original guys suck and how they aren't as good as the new guys. How can that be said when the "New Gnr" has yet to drop an album. As of yet, they cannot be fairly compared. ?The originals managed to drop several albums. Dont get me wrong, I definitely support Axl and look forward to the new album (if we ever see it) but at the same time I'm not gonna act like the originals never existed or that I hate them just because YOU think that would make Axl happy. I think alot of people on here think that if they say anything descent about the original members that means that they aren't supporting Axl, and that's just stupid. ?So again Jarmo, it's not about being stuck, it's about being open minded and seeing the obvious. ? : ok:

hnb, what hotel was axl's suite at?  was it at the hardrock or was it at the palms which has a suite called the kingpin suite with bowling lanes? 

You really are clueless.

Nobody has said a word about hating the old band. On the other hand, some people live in a dream world and start drooling about a reunion as soon as it's reported Axl met Steven.

That kind of talk makes it seem there is no band and it's quite disrespectful to the current band.



/jarmo

he probably had the penthouse suite at the hardrock

in addition to that, they?re going to be dissapointed, as a reunion won`t take place in the next couple of years.....  that`s not my problem though. i just find it quite funny, how some people are delusional enough to believe in it....

Ok Jarmo ! You're always right ! : ok:

Who cares if the reunion is in the next couple years or not?? I dont?? I think it will eventually happen though. Signs keep pointing in that direction. Not to be disrespectful to the current lineup of course.? ?: ok:

You're quick to point out the "disrespect" towards the old band, but I don't see you mentioning the other side of the same coin.....



/jarmo

At the Sunday Vegas show he was complaining about the noise made by the people at Rehab while he was sleeping (the Hard Rock pool) so yea, there.

Personally, I HAVE NEVER said anything negative toward the new band. If you feel as though I have, point out the post and I will explain it. I saw them in concert twice last year, they were awesome, I love the new demos and live cuts, and I have every intention on buying Democracy (if that day ever comes).

My problem is comments like "you reunion people can go hang out in Dead Horse "and "either get on board or shut the f--- up." I don't want Izzy on the cd", "Adler is nothing but a loser junkie. I mean, have you guys forgot that it was those same people who brought you Appetite, Lies, and the Illusions (minus Adler of course). It was not Finck, Stinson, Mantia, or Ferrar. Now, do not get me wrong, I think all that were just named are extremely talented musicians, but they cannot be compared to the original lineup. THERE HASNT EVEN BEEN A STUDIO RELEASE! How can they be compared, and who is showing disrespect for the new band??? Like I said earlier, I can say Slash and Adler kicks ass and that is not a slam to Robin and Brian. If anyone think it is, that's there problem. I don't care if GNR reunite anytime soon in all honesty, as long as they do something ---- like release an album. I think I can say positive things about the original guys w/out Axl being mad at me. You should feel the same, Jarmo.? ?: ok:

When you get backstage access, go to surprise club appearances etc., it is quite easy to forget the old band.

Why would anyone want to do that?

Too bad this is not in any press release and either steven has said anything, so, it's not that reliable sorry,might have been someone that looked just like steven.....  :P

Another clueless person.

Nobody is saying anything about forgetting the old band. Get it?

Is it that hard to understand?


On the subject of forgetting. How about you get over the riot? It's been over four years. Time for a new username maybe?  :P




Yeah, but people aren't saying that. They're saying they want them back in the band while we have a band who are planning on releasing a new album and touring in 2007... Big difference!



This has nothing do with Axl. I don't know why you can't get it?




/jarmo

Jarmo man, you are really too addicted to this stuff with new and old aren't you? Don't get me wrong though. I love and appreciate what the new band is doing BUT personally I (and I'm not the only one) is really into the old guys. I mean I love what Axl is doing and I can't wait for the Chinese Democracy, BUT you can't say that we disrespect the new band when we start talking about the old guys. Futhermore, 80 % of the new band is playing songs that were originally written and played by the old guys. It's not disrespectful, it's love. I also think that it is not quite fair to treat Steven like the junkey of the old band and so on and so on. And yes, I know you are going to oppose my opinion.  ;D


Just my opinion...

Wow, people keep making up shit about me the whole time.

I'm not addicted, I'm just bored with people coming here and going on and on about a reunion, that might never happen, in a time when there's a great band working on getting their name out there and playing for thousands of fans by touring.



I never treated Steven as a "junkie of the old" band. Some people do because maybe they see addiction as something that only happens to weak people.

You don't think it's fair, fair enough.

Remember that next time you see some "fan" calling any of the current band members names.


Talking of love, the current band members never said a bad word about the former members, yet we have a bunch of "fans" who can't get over the line up changes, talking shit about the current band.


I love the old band too, but that's in the past. They did some amazing things back in the day. Nobody's saying otherwise. I don't understand what kind of fans would come here and keep telling us that we shouldn't be excited or happy about GN'R because it's not the same band it as in 1987 or 1991 or 1993...


If you really think GN'R doesn't exist anymore, I suggest you go find another place to post.

Us "fools" here are quite happy to look forward to another year filled with GN'R action.



/jarmo

Now THAT is probably the best post I've ever seen Jarmo make.  :yes:

agreed, excellent post.  And I believe the majority of the members here share those sentiments.    If 2007 kicks half as much ass as 2006, we are in for a kickass year.     :beer:

I agree. That was an excellent post, Jarmo !???? ::)

Maybe I should change my username to bringbackferrar ?

were you there at rehab on sunday?  i was, too.  brain was sitting next to us at the pool with a bunch of people (he was out at the pool wearing black jeans and a black tshirt if i remember correctly), and they bummed a cigarette off my cousin.  ron thal and a woman i assumed was his wife (they were holding hands if i remember correctly, very cute) came out to the pool and said hi to some people and then left again.  this was at the mellow end of the pool, the dj was over at the larger pool (there are two pools connected by a water passageway).  the shadier pool.  it's funny coz i posted a thread before about the dj talking about axl asking for the music to be turned down and i think it got deleted, but i couldn't figure out why.  maybe it wasn't  but i couldn't find it after i posted it.  anyway, i saw a guy standing out on the balcony at the top floor, all the way to the right (if you were facing the hotel from the pool) but i couldn't see who it was (my eyesight being abominable), but i couldn't help thinking.  what if it was axl.  hehe

Who knows... maybe we'll see a couple guest appearances from Mr. Adler (like Izzy did) on tour w/ Guns this summer. Now, that would be cool. Kinda like how they brought out Metallica's Lars in LA. I doubt it happens but it would be too cool.    :smoking:

I don't think a reunion will ever happen.

For one good reason.

Axl baught the rights for the Guns N' Roses name.  U really think that Slash and Co. who sold their rights would come play for Axl with a paycheck?  Cause that what would happen....

I really don't see Axl re-selling the rights to old band memebers......

And I'm happy with the new line up.  Anyways, like I write on my site:
**THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "NEW" GUNS N' ROSES....THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE GUNS N' ROSES! PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!

That makes alot of sense.? ?:no:

Interestingly though, Axl himself has called them new Guns N Roses, so I guess there is such a thing  : ok:

Well I don't see NEW Guns N' Roses on the shirts and all.

And I think GUNS N' ROSES will be used for the album....
;)

I think so too, but it doesn't mean there is anything wrong with differentiating between different eras of GNR by referring to them as old and new.

During Izzy's most recent interview where he describes touring with the band last summer, he also refers to the band as "Axl's New Guns N Roses".

I don't think saying that is a put down or at all inconsiderate to the new band.

I mean, w/ the exception of Axl, the band is new but, they are still badass.

For example, if my dog were to die, and I would go out and buy a new one, I would refer to it as my "new dog", at least for awhile. I wouldn't call him/her that as a sign of disrespect. I'd plainly say it to differentiate the two.

Alot of people believe using the phrase "New Gnr" is a sign of not accepting the band. That simply is not the case. You can accept both versions and still decipher between the two. ? :yes:

Spot on, I would have thought Axl referring to them as the new band himself would be enough for people. It's not an insult or certainly I don't use it as an insult to the new guys but as a way of explaining which era of GNR I'm referring to. New GNR has members in it that are new, funnily enough  :hihi:

Yeah..it makes sense.... :beer:

Good.

I think most people can understand this. Some just choose not to admit it.

Anyway, Happy B-Day Axl.   : ok:

Jarmo, no offence man, I was hell away from making shit about you or about anyone here. I was just expressing my point of view. I also love the current Guns and admire what Axl is doing. I agree with your last post and by the way, the same direction are my posts too.


P.S. I've never said that you perosnally started a thread that Steven is THE JUNKEY or so on. I said that some "fans" treat him as such and it is not right.  :peace:

You know whats funny about this? I used to be REALLY defensive about that term until I went to the Hammerstein show last year.

It was there that I personally really looked at these guys as the "New" Guns N' Roses. It's hard to described but it sounds like you guys are doing a good job of it.

Viva La Finck!

when? he didnt as far as I know...

You left out the part where Izzy and Lars DIDN'T extort millions of dollars from Axl.  :rofl: That makes it easier to collaborate in the future.  :smoking:

funny, everyone here seems to be drunk or something when reading and replying to these posts... contradictions and then a bunch of agreements to more contradictions... how entertainig  ;D    :beer:

Yeah I see what you mean. That's funny. But I just went right to Page 9 and tried to settle it for anyone who might be stuck on this idea.  :hihi:

October, 1991 - Steven Adler launched a lawsuit against the band. He claimed that GN'R were responsible for his drug addiction.

September 24th, 1993 - GN'R made a $2.5 million dollar out-of-court settlement payment to Steven Adler in respect of his October 1991 lawsuit.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/history/history91.php
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/history/history93.php

Maybe it'll also help any new band members understand why Axl won't be close friends with them.  :rofl:

Maybe Civil War <.<

lol

I wouldn't call Adler getting a couple million dollar out of court settlement extortion. Considering the amount of money the band made off Appetite/touring, what's a couple million?   ::)

So, in the last years Izzy, Steven and Slash have all spoken with Axl....its a start

Time heals every wound. We'll see a reunion at some point, no doubt.

I think you meant Axl has spoken to Izzy, Steven, and Matt. Axl told RS last year that he hasn't spoken to Slash in 10 years. It will happen eventually though, and the reunion will be huge.? ?:yes:

exactly, that was axl's lawyers that said the other thing, if there's ever a reunion it will indeed be huge, but i think it'll be hard for 'em to decide wich drummer they should use, at least for slash and duff

When they are introduced into the Rock n Roll Hall of fame they will reunite but that will be it.

yeah but that will be for 4 records, AFD, UYI1 n' 2 and CD and that's 3 line-ups