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September 23 --- Guns postponing shows after KROQ

I've heard it weeks before, but didn't want to post it straight away for obvious reasons. The story is, we've heard from someone very high up in the food chain of the GNR tour that all California shows after KROQ will be postponed until December. The source continues.. "After Sept 23rd, the band goes into studio to complete final mixing of the album, and the album will come out before December" ... "Towards new years, they will fly to Miami for a show... and ON new years eve, they plan to perform in Dubai" ... take it for what it is, still a rumour.

http://www.newgnr.com/newgnr.html




Edit: Clearer subject. /jarmo

Dubai?

Damn, I don't think I've ever been there...

The thing that bugs me is that on September 23rd 2006 they still haven't even done the "final mixing" That's insane. And not in a good way.

That's some rumor! So Chinese Democracy, probably in November, and Dubai for New Years? That would be a bit weird

newgnr was also the first page to come up with the uk tour way before it was announced. and mixing can take 2 weeks

The final mixing is something that doesn't take too long.

However it's just a rumour and you shouldn't look at it any other way...

well, we'll find out on wednesday the latest, or maybe axl will say something tomorrow

yeah weird story.... but logical....I mean....it must be this year.....according to Axl himself......so CD in november would be great.  That would mean an announcement in early october or mid october?

Imagine listening to CD in less then two months?!?!

 :drool:

looks like i'd be going to dubai for new years  8)

I don't believe this for one reason - why would they book the dates in September/October in the first place? Why would they harm their touring reliability even further? Didn't they know that the album needs mixing? ??? Axl has been saying 'this year' for ages. Why wouldn't they have just mixed it between the European tour and the start of the US one?

Needing to mix the album isn't something that 'suddenly' happens and causes you to postpone shows. Is it? ?:nervous:

 And if management knows that the gigs are delayed, they should say something official ASAP or people are going to be pissed off.

yeah like thats something i dont imagine everyday ::)

 :hihi:

True. But the "final mixing" rumor has been going on for years. ?I mean didn't Axl himself say in 2002 that they were heading int the studio to put the "finnishing touches" on the album? The guy sure does plan his schedualwell ?in advance. :rofl:

As for Dubai I had a buddy who went there last christmas with his wife and kids and he said it was freaking awesome. he loved it there. If this is true it would probably be a wicked gig to go to. lots of $$$$$$ though.

I agree. What was the point of scheduling shows? And yeah you'd think that final mixings would be some kind of priority and not somthing that was left to the last minute and then someone said "Shit you know what we still gotta do...." I know that's not likely how it went down but the whole Gn'R camp seems to be run pretty poorly.  It's no wonder  fans get upset alot of the time.

It's happening alright.

The Reno date (9/30) has been moved up to January with the Sacramento date.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/735218

Well newgnr.com is reliable so I do trust it. If this means CD is definitely coming out this year, then I'm all for it ?: ok:

I didn't want to start a new thread, but does this mean that GNr did not sellout or good enough that axl or company had to delay the tour

what is that birthday bash thing listed there with Guns??

What about the shows that begin on Oct. 20? Is everything postponed until Dec.? :nervous: :confused:

That's what I read someone sugget. It kinda made some sense. If tickets weren't selling too well they'd likey sell better once the album was released and songs were on radio. Who knows the reasoning though. It's be so awesome if Gn'R would share with the fans. There's really no reason to leave us in the dark like this all the time. It;s just about showing the slightest amount of respect for the fasn that have helped in some way or another keep this thing going. We care and want to know whats going on. Have some guy post this shit on gnronline everyday. I really wonder who calls the shots with this band and with management. It's just really weird.

If this rumor is even half-way correct, it's great news.
 

Can Mysteron clear this up for us?

Also Geffen.com has updated with the same tour dates info as gnronline, so i guess it's just a feed from one another

I doubt the reason is 'not selling enough tickets'  Cause one would or should know beforehand? 2002 anyone? It's kinda silly to do a tour without an album in the US in large venues no? So they calculated that in?

Perhaps only the dates between Kroq and the 23th of october are rescedualed till later. That would leave time before the end of october to finish the album things and start touring right ahead when the albums out?

I would think the earky dates of the official tour (October 20th, 22nd, 24th. 25th. etc.) are in jeopardy big time.

Well if the rumor is true than it's awesome news. if it's not true than this whole thing could be coming apart at the seems. Exciteing times but a bit scary as well.

if it's true, I think it's a good news  :)

And we wouldn't have it any other way  8)
Imagine if we'd had a solid release date hanging over us for the last six months. We'd have been some bored people. 

So...Im not going to be able to see GNR next Friday? That fucking sucks.

Buddha,

It's a good thing.? Now you can see them after you have heard CD and get a show with more new tunes.? I kind of hope October 20th gets postponed till January as well for that reason.

This HAS to be it! :o

But that is just speculating.

I can't see how this would A) True or B) Viewed as good news by anybody. If the part about the album being in the final mix stage to be released in December is what people keep referring to as good news I still don't get it. Axl said twice it'll be out this year then he said the tour starts in October, why would they wait until tickets are already sold for upcoming warmups before postponing them to get the album ready?

Wouldn't all of that have been done between the Euro Tour and these warm up dates?

In the end I guess we'll all just have to wait for either an official word or the next warm up dates after KROQ to happen without it hitch to confirm or deny this, but that's just my $.02

there's another posivite side to this!
At least band learned to cancel the show before the gates open! this way no riot... : ok:  :hihi:

now this is interesting... Since this has just happend, maybe they will say somthing on the concert tonight???
If its true, when is the last Concert?

one more thing 2..how come there ant a decent offical site 4 GNR??

 ???

As for the postponing of dates: Interesting! Waiting for official statement, or some slightly more corroborating rumor. ????

As for the New Year's Eve show in Dubai? So not believing this. C'mon, flying to the United Arab Emirates for such a date? Yeah, I can just picture the headbanger scene in the UAE. GNR's music is so accepted in the Muslim world. ? :hihi: ?

What's the warm date for Dubai? Christmas morning on the White House Lawn? ? :rofl:

tomorrow. inland invasion.


hey, at least they didnt go to some mini iran :hihi:
but Dubai seems pissable.
after all lost of people from europe/usa go there for the holidays, and also there's a bunch of US soldiers there, so it might be an interesting choice. and it might not be that the band chose the location, but some arabian organizer wanted to get them. after all they always want to get what's hardest to get.

Who's promoting the dates, anyway? ?(Or who WAS promoting the dates). ?I keep forgetting to look.

Maybe they're taking a page out of the Alan Niven school of management -- or maybe it was Rose who taught Niven -- and the original bookings were a ploy to force the label's hand for something or another -- probably cough up the money to finish the album. ?That could explain why the dates were scheduled so quietly.

hey, at least they didnt go to some mini iran :hihi:
but Dubai seems pissable.
after all lost of people from europe/usa go there for the holidays, and also there's a bunch of US soldiers there, so it might be an interesting choice. and it might not be that the band chose the location, but some arabian organizer wanted to get them. after all they always want to get what's hardest to get.


Typo's aside, dude (Pissable? ?:rofl:) Yes, there can be great one off shows and events in Dubai and the UAE. I just don't see or hear a lot of Metal/Hard Rock shows happening there, unless they're really low key gigs for certain higher up people. It's not like we've heard of other big name hard rock acts (like Metallica) playing there, have we? I've heard more about Dance/Pop/Jazz/etc acts playing special gigs there. But nothing about hard rock and metal acts.

And good one on the 'mini-iran' crack!

When I click on the newgnr link it takes me straight to a forbidden screen.

Anyone else getting this?

Well if this is true, then we'll heard something tonight for sure :yes:

This was posted just a few hours ago, and would certainly seem to contradict what's been said here - or at least seems to point to the October shows going ahead as planned.

http://rdu.news14.com/content/headlines/?ArID=91328&SecID=2

The plot thickens...

forbidden screen, what does that mean?

Also found this:

Guns N' Roses changes date
The Bakersfield Californian | Friday, Sep 22 2006 10:40 PM
Last Updated: Friday, Sep 22 2006 10:49 PM

Guns N' Roses, which was scheduled to play Rabobank Arena at 8 p.m. Friday, has rescheduled its Bakersfield date to Jan. 11. The band is starting its North American tour on Oct. 20 in Jacksonville, Fla.

Tickets that have already been purchased will be honored for the January show. Tickets are still on sale at $39.50 to $75.50, available at www.ticketmaster.com and Ticketmaster outlets, at the Rabobank box office and by phone at 322-2525.

So it appears that all the shows Oct.20th onwards are going ahead as planned. All shows before that are rescheduled for Dec/Jan. Perhaps they just need the time until then to get ready for CD? ?8)

Heh! ?In my book, this confirms it. ?The big stall. ? ;D ?They're not ready to announce the delay, but they don't want to complicate the issue by having tickets on sales.

My point is that the date of the show is still October 31st, so it seems that the tour as it begins Oct.20th is going ahead.

Why are dates still showing up on ticketmaster if they are all postponed?

Nah, this is a local release, they wouldn't know and couldn't say regardless. ?In lieu of a new date/tour announcement from the band/promoters, they have stick with the info at hand and regurgitate the rest (whether they think it's true or not). ?

THAT IS B. S  .. please tell me it's B.S    :nervous: :confused: :crying:

Where would they get the info about delayed sales from other than management?

'You can get your tickets for the October 31st concert at the Greensboro Coliseum advance box office and at area Triad Lowes Foods locations.'

Guessing you had tickets for Friday?  :no: Hope you can watch Inland Invasion with the rest of us, at least.

If this is true I dont see how anyone could view this as a bad thing in any way. If they have postponed (not cancelled) these dates so they could finish up the album and get it released by the end of the year, how on earth is that not GREAT news?? I understand the people that are going being a bit irritated for the rescheduled dates, especially if they have already made arrangements to be at one of these shows, but still, this is really great news if it is true. It means Axl is finally going to stick to his word and release the album this year.

Just remember, rescheduled dates are nothing compared to Cancellations. You will get to see them just going to have to wait a couple months.

I think everyone will agree that the album is a lot more important than these dates. Think about it, would you rather see them after the album is released, and probably 3/4 new songs added to the setlist, or them play this week with the same old setlist, nothing new?? No question I would rather wait a couple months

I'm with you on that. But the most irritating thing is how poorly it appears to have been handled. These shows are so soon, no official statement about the delays yet, and we're left wondering why the album couldn't have been mixed (if that is the reason for the rescheduling) during the lull between the European and US tours.

But still, barring any problems with the mixing, god forbid, I really do think we'll see Chi Dem very soon.  :beer:

What about all the people planning on attending them shows, you don't think they might just be a little dissappointed that they have to re-arrange there plans and wait months till there actual concert.

yeah but by then we will peolly have the record out :yes:

Actually I have tickets for 2 shows in Florida, Estero and Sunrise, ?But I dont want the same thing that happened in 2002 to happen again,,,,, ?:nervous: ?I ended with a serious trauma for ?a ?long time.... we' ll know more info abt this dates troughout Saturday... ?

#1, If this is true, it should've been decided a long time ago not to tour without CD done and out in stores. What a whimsical organization thay are.

#2, It sucks for the people who who planning to go. No argument on that one. I've been there myself.

#3, This might not be true at all.

#4, This might not be true at all.

#5, This might not be true at all.

Yeah, I agree, but the GNR camp has always handled things badly.

Axl said the tour would start on October 23, so when those dates were announced I found it kinda strange. The warm gigs didnt surprise me, but when they started scheduling huge arenas after saying the official tour didnt start until October 23, I found that kinda strange.

well, maybe it was just me, but didn`t anybody else think that the late september/early october shows just didn`t make any sense???


well... of  course the band has all its equipment in california at the moment and only doing 5 gigs isn?t as profitable as doing 12 or so, but other than that, there`s no reason to have a 2 week gap and start the "real" tour on the east coast two weeks later...

i think rescheduling the shows makes sense and it`s definitely good news....  chinese democracy starts now!!!  :peace:

Posted by: Guns N' Neuroses ?
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#1, If this is true, it should've been decided a long time ago not to tour without CD done and out in stores. What a whimsical organization thay are.

#2, It sucks for the people who who planning to go. No argument on that one. I've been there myself.

#3, This might not be true at all.

#4, This might not be true at all.

#5, This might not be true at all.

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Read up - this Friday's show is definitely postponed.

Did you read the rest of my post, or just that first line??

I said this after that statement


 

It could be that it's being handled brilliantly behind the scenes, who knows.? The amount of negotiating that must be going on given the label situation, the Sanctuary exit, merchandising deals, publishing litigation, etc (and then throw lawsuits from disgruntled art brokers into the mix), it's a pretty friggin' complicated situation.? Not sure I'd be able to figure it out even if I was in the same room.? (I keep envisioning this massive poker game... )?

dont you find it irritating that Merck adressed the silliest possible thread about a lost microphone, and yet important questions like this are left hanging in the air :rant:

If this rumor is true, then it might be a good move to have CD finished before any other shows, that way when they start again, it can be a heavy CD setlist + plus maybe some other new songs.  However, if its it for this band, then just be glad you got a chance to see them if you were able to.

I just can't understand why everyone is treating this as though it's true either.

Strange.

What reliable source did this come from again??

In some weird way, I hope its true, bc Ive read alot of posts saying Axl is making the same mistakes in 02 by touring with no album to promote.  So if CD is released in around Nov or Dec, then start touring in Dec, that could be a good move.

Only the dates before October 24th and after tonight are postponed.

http://www.desertrockfestival.com/

Dubai has a fairly big annual rock festival, which started in 2004. Don't think it coincides with New Year, but there is the money and audience to bring in big rock bands.

Thanks for the info!

So, Axl was right at the VMAs. :P

in the middle east? what a predictable place! 
Whose joke is that?

Again, I have to ask for a source.

And just so I have this right, is this what the official claim is:

Everything after tonight is being moved/postponed and they will be playing the October 24 date and all those already scheduled after that?

Wait for a Mysteron post everybody.  Unitl then I will save my breathe.

Jeez i just woke up my heart is beating so fast. i feel good, but at the same time, im freaked out because iiii reaaaaaaaaaly dont want the florida dates postponed... sorry to everyone that had plans for the cali shows,  :'(

Just remember, at least the word "cancelled" isn't in there....So yeah, I was going to go to Bakersfield next week, now I have to wait until January 11th. It sucks, but I still get to see them then, oh well.

It's only the Cali and Reno shows that are being postponed... every other show is safe. ?Just think - when the tour finally starts at the end of october, we could very well have heard the first single?

Yeah, its only 5 shows, the rest is still going on as planned.

Well true, so far.
Anyway, i still dont know what to think of this but I'm sure we will hear something more, soon. I'm guessing by the time the tour starts up at the end of October, we will have a release date.

Luckily for me, Guns N' Roses doesn't give a shit about Iowa.  You people make this out to be a bad thing...CD WILL BE DONE IN 2 MONTHS OR LESS!  :drool:

(if this is true)

Look genius, Dubai is considered a major tourist attraction all over the world. It's a very prosperous little nation, which is loaded by Westerns during the New Years. My mom's been there 5 or 6 times during the past ten years, and she told me that the place has a major appeal for travellers written all over it.

Relatively little amount of locals would attend the GNR show, but I tell you, the venue would be 100% packed.

Not proof, but if you go here

http://www.ticketmaster.com/venue/73969

and click on the GNR show and look to the info panel on the right you will see the date listed as Thursday, January 11th 2007 instead of 9/29/06.

What would people prefer, a show in October and no CD, or a show that was rescheduled to January + C f-in D?

it seems logical....i was a little hestitant to see all these shows being put up without a release date again...we've been down that road before :P

Yes, that is one show. I don't see how that means every single show of the tour is postopned. It could have been postponed for several different reasons.

This was the first time ever Axl said this year. ?When Kurt Loder asked Axl after the VMAs in 2002 when the album was coming out Axl said to the words of Don't hold your breath this project is going to take a long time.

I hate when I hear people say Axl said "this year" every year. ?This was the first time he ever said it. ?Get your facts straight or don't post at all.

It's only all California shows that are postponed (after KROQ), which means they will be re-scheduled at a future date. ?Axl said the tour is officially going to start on October 24th!!

cybercurves

Jarmo is not online so I am going to post what Mr. Merck said about this and later Jarmo can confirm it is true:


So just enjoy tonight's show and be happy because it is happening.

ahem, he said around the 24th, to be precise.. precise ???

wait. So the message part about going back into studios mixing was also not true?



 

Everything before the tour kicks off in Florida in late october, like Axl said at the VMA's, is being moved. The shows after that basically stay the same.

Axl said the tour is starting the 24th at the VMA's - that's where that date comes from.

God I hope they come to Jacksonville on the 20th I've got tickets on the 13th row and I have like all of you been waiting a lifetime for this shit! I stilll agree with all of you guys though, I'd rather have chinese democracy in my hand this year though so i could play the hell out of it day in and day out.

again who's joke was that originally? Tommy? :hihi:

velimir, where did you find this?

Thank you for clearing that up Velimir it makes sense that way enjoy the webcast tonight

So far it's looking like I should stand corrected. My apologies for being a bit of a bitch.

If this is true why are the people crying about it. Look at it this way. If your show is now in dec or jan that means you will get set list full of NEW SONGs and not the same tired old set list from 2002

I'm just hoping that "anouncements of the full tour" and what not are all correct as well.

E-mail, and I can verify that it's authentic.




/jarmo

I am sure the offical tour still starts in oct. They jus said Cali dates are being pushed back.

Fucking ay!

And there's gonna be an announcement next week of the entire tour - hopefully with some other information. ?: ok:

They may have decided they need a little longer gap to sort everything out for the album, etc. Who knows.

It's all good ?:beer:

@#$%Funker

Speaking of which.... this announcement next week? Whats the official word on it? Is it supposed to be soley on the tour or is it the "big one" with all the info we're waiting for?

it would be so cool to finally be able to listen to CD after all this time  :peace:

props velimir : ok:

get your credit cards ready for next week kiddies 8)

Thanks.

and thanks valimir.
Just to clarify myself, I meant "The rest of the below message"- the newyearseve bit  by "the joke".

You're right  : ok:

its all part of axls plan, do the euro tour, then a few shows in america show that they are serious about the album this time, get people realise GNR are planning on doin something, some self promo for the band if you like, then sell some shows, took into consideration they aint sold out, postpone them put the fuckin album out, get "the craze" goin for GNR and the album, more tickets are bought for the postponed shows, and success : ok:

Is there going to be a " official" announcemeant next week or is that " official speculation" ?

GN'R have postponed the US dates that were to take place between September 27th and October 5th. The dates have been moved to fit into the main body of the tour, which starts on October 20th in Jacksonville, FL at the Veterans Memorial Arena.
The rescheduled dates will take place later this year or early next year (depending on show).

The shows with new rescheduled dates known so far are:

Fresno, CA @ Save Mart Center: September 27th, 2006 -> December 13th, 2006
Reno, NV @ Reno Events Center: September 30th, 2006 -> January 13th, 2007
Sacramento, CA @ ARCO Arena: October 2nd, 2006 -> January 10th, 2007

It's now on Ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/735218):

Bakersfield, CA @ Rabobank Arena: September 29th, 2006 => January 11th, 2007.


San Diego will go as well, I'm predicting January.

Never understood the timing of those shows anyway...didn't help that there was whatever ticket you wanted left to buy too LOL

Sounds great...but since I have row AA seats for Tennessee I'm hoping its still on for Oct. 22.  Already have paid vacation lined up..but have to miss classes the next day..oh well its worth it.  I'm guessing the moving up of these dates is in order to go along with the album release.  Let the new music sink in with the people before they go to the show.

Seriously, I'm so sick of people like this.

Whine, whine, whine. Axl owes me this, he should do this for me, he's suck a dick, ooooooh

Then WHY ARE YOU HERE

GO AWAY

GO WATCH A CLAY AIKEN SHOW I HEAR THERE ARE NO RIOTS THERE

Fuck that shit, "I can see where he's coming from"

He's coming from the "I like to complain" school of thinking

When GNR did shit like this back in the day, they could do no wrong. The people who complained about their style were the fucking churches and mother's groups who protested them - you want to be grouped in with them?

This is GUNS N' ROSES. Why can't you just get over it.

HOW CAN ANYONE TURN NEWS OF THE BAND FINISHING THE RECORD AND RELEASING IT into a negative thing? I'm sorry, but if you do this, you aren't a true fan.

its a bit of a bummer for the fans who have taken time off work or booked holidays around the tour, I would be a little annoyed to. However lets look on the bright side, this probably means that the band are serious about getting Chinese Democracy out this time around, and that surely is somthing to look forward to

I think this is very high hazard with GNR's reliability, especially in the US

so let me get this straight, im sorry if its been answered, but the shows only after tonight and to OCt 20 are postponed, the shows after Oct 20th are still on ?

yep thats what it looks like.. n the show oct 20th is still on.  : ok:

Seems to be the case, at least as of right now.

i'll stick to what i wrote.

i was informed about this on sept 8th. (that's right!) ... no december dates were publicly known at that time.

so, i've emailed mr. merck 10 days ago (see (http://members.chello.at/sladdi/email.jpg)) to ask about the shows being postponed, and my email was ignored...
i've sent a personal message to mysteron 5 days ago (see (http://members.chello.at/sladdi/myst.jpg))... he told me he hasn't heard "anything to that effect".

now, do you think mr. merck woke up in the beautiful friday morning at sept 22nd, and went "man! we need to postpone these shows!..... so that they fit into the body of the tour!" ? obviously this was so planned. and what are they going to do for 27 days now?

if this guy knew about the postponed shows, then he knows his shit. he didn't make the rest up, i lend credence to that as it's not his nature to talk bs.

if you don't have a completed album and you are touring from October to December AND you've promised an album, when do you think final mixing will happen? now, not during christmas. some things are just logical.

i just hope you don't take their denial as gospel truth, but, whatever floats your boat ::)

i'll keep posting what i consider worth being mentioned...

why the fuck would they have planned that? annoucning the shows and planning on postponing them? where's the sense in that?

I trust you sladdi, atleast in the sense that you only give out information you yourself believe to be true. Mysteron's the same, if he says he hasn't heard about it, that's sometimes the end of the story.

And Merck... In the past, Merck has replied/denied/ignored the way that best serves his purpose. He looks out for his clients and thus sometimes has had to resort to a half-truth or even a downright lie, but that is what he considers the best for the band.

In the GNR world, there are no truths. Truth only exists the minute it becomes reality.

Who gives a shit? They are postponed. End of discussion. Album due this year-whether it is done or almost done who cares? Whether they are in the studio or not who cares? If it is not released this year, then........ >:(

Whatever sladdi. I don't doubt you or merck.

However the dubai show on this newyears eve, of all days and years, somewhat never rings true to me.
I think you were neatly taken in on that bit.  I might be wrong, of course.

Incidently what about the 5th of october?

Merck said its bullshit - lock this thread. There's not gonna be a New Year's show in Dubai - God, are you people that gullible? We're two months away from an album release - some of us have waited for 7 fucking years - you can wait two more months.

I mean he doesn't include the 5th of October here.

I'm glad I decided to wait to buy my Airplane ticket to Reno.....after being burned in Philly, I think I would have pretty much said fuck it all to this band.  I've been a fan for a very very long time, but jesus christ....as far as seeing this band live, I don't think I'm gonna chance it anymore.  It's like a gamble.  Not worth the trouble.

PS - this isn't an Axl/GNR bash.....but seriously someone in the front office needs to get their ass kicked and learn how to schedule a tour and make sure it happens.

Right on!  I couldn't have said it better myself.

It's included as far as I know.




/jarmo

It hasn't been officially moved yet, but most likely it will be.

so merck just forgot to mention the date in the mail. :P

it's kinda ironic that the americans have always bad luck when it comes to shows

Possibly.

He specified that the tour will start in Jacksonville, FL on October 20th.




/jarmo

No point in saying the San Diego date has just been moved, when it hasn't.



A European tour was cancelled twice (in 2001), before we got three shows in 2002 and finally a full-blown tour in 2006.

i know it will get moved, but a part of me still has hope that the san diego show will happen in the original date. :peace:

I didn't know every other date between the 27th and the 5th oct was officially moved already.

You can keep denying it all you want, but the tour will start in Florida. Not San Diego.


/jarmo

Umm, I'm not denying it. Completely opposite.

Was just commenting on Merck not including the SD date to the ones 'just moved'. IMO It's only because that one date hasn't been rescheduled with the venue yet.


But it will be moved. Case closed.

FLORIDA!!!  : ok:  hell yeahh.. There is where it is supposed to begin... We got screwed up in 2002 .. Now it's our only chance...  :beer:

this is why i like you rey  :)   you just said what I think most of us true fans are thinking.

As an FYI...............


I had tickets to see GNR in Sacramento and in San Diego.

I also had plane reservations via Southwest.


Now, Southwest....if you need to cancel your trip, hold the amount you paid in the form of a credit to be used up to one year from original date of purchase. ?I have a credit of $397 right now. ?And Southwest always has low fares. ?It only cost me to fly round trip from Tampa to Jacksonville, $118.80

Also, I had put in a request for Ticketmaster to give me a refund because I can't make the date in January and I asked they do it last night and it was done today .....I had received an email telling me so.

Once San Diego gets officially moved, I'll ask TM to refund my credit card as well. ?Because I did the fast ticket printing, I only lost out on like $2.50 and then the service fee of like $4.40 so it wasn't a lot. ?I am receiving a credit of $85.00.

I got my GNR Tampa ticket in the mail today as well and an email telling me my GNR ?Jax ticket is on the way as it's been printed. :smoking:


edit to say that the time off I was taking was vacation time for me so it wasn't a big deal.  I can schedule my vaction time any time I want and mine is paid time off so it all worked out for me.

So my suggestion would be to those who decide to fly..........book with Southwest....that way you don't lose any money....you can always reschedule your time to fit around GNR.
It's all about flexibility and if anyone hasn't figured out by now that you have to remain open minded in being a fan of GNR then you better realize that now.

Damn. I was really looking forward to this Arco show. But dave made a good point. With CD being out before January, we'll have a revamped setlist. I'm willing to wait a couple months if it means not having to hear mostly AFD rehash. Also, by some miracle from God(and Axl), Buckethead will be back for this "real" tour. :smoking: :drool: :beer:

Right, silver lining. That is why didnt go to vegas Did want to see the same set list i did in 2002

Right guys, here it comes:

Told you so.  : ok:

Case was closed before you said "no point in blah.. "
Obviously I was no way questioning jarmo's answer but you still went on saying the San Diego date hadn't been moved yet, which was unnecessarily.
as Merck stated the tour starting from the 20th, there was no point for him in not saying the San Diego date would be moved as well.
That's why you sounded like denying that.

You didn't even know the reason I asked and simply asked about the date. You can't be sure about Merck?s mind.  Maybe you guess right maybe not. I'd say, in context it's rather natural to think he would have made a mention of the san Diego show aside from already moved (and fixed) shows but he had to hasten to inform valimir/us of the major points and nothing intentional.

Well the show is still up on Ticketmaster for Oct. 5th... maybe GNR are having a hard time finding a suitable date later in the year/early next year?

According to Ticketmaster, the San Diego show is January 16, 2007.  :hihi: