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Taken from blabbermouth.net:

VELVET REVOLVER Drummer: We Write Songs Faster Than METALLICA Does

Though Rick Rubin is currently tied up with U2 in London, he's slated to work with both METALLICA and VELVET REVOLVER next, VR drummer Matt Sorum informed RollingStone.com Monday night (Sept. 18) during the Hard Rock Caf??s 35th birthday extravaganza. "I think we're going to beat METALLICA to the studio 'cause we write songs faster than they do," he boasted.

The working title for the new VELVET REVOLVER disc remains "Libertad", although Sorum previously dismissed singer Scott Weiland's statements that it will be a concept record.

"You know, Scott said something about a concept album," Sorum told ABC Radio's ePrep. "But you know, the concept is let's get it done, you know what I mean? (laughs)"

VELVET REVOLVER's 2004 debut, "Contraband", was certified double-platinum for sales in excess of two million copies in the United States.

I guess this is good news for those of you who are concerned that they're not doing anything at the moment. Not so good news for Metallica fans though if they have to wait. It looks like VR are well on their way with this album if they're almost ready to get Rick on board.

I'm a fan of both VR and Metallica, so it's a win/win situation for me if either finish first. ;D

So we have to wait until Rubin is finished with U2 and possibly Metallica before a new VR record?

Looks like when he's done with U2 at least. Maybe not Metallica because they're faster...

Sorum is so modest.. Time will tell I guess  :peace:

I guess because I have waited long for another record, I am already tired of waiting for this one :hihi:

I hate Metallica but Matt Sorum is the biggest jackass in GN'R history. I mean listen to Camp Freddy - Slash is awesome and Matt never shuts up boasting about how great he (Matt) is. Maybe one day he'll wake up and realize he's just a drummer and easily the most expendable member of any group - drummers can be easily replaced. Look at Steven Adler. But when Slash was replaced that's when the band allegedly "fell apart."

Matt's also a perv but I'll save that for another discussion because I don't want to be accused of hijacking this thread.  :peace:

I just think his comments are once again a great demonstration of how egotistical he is.

No. According to Izzy the band started to fall apart when Steven was replaced.

The band started to fall apart as a creative unit but in the public's perception the band was still Guns N' Roses. You didn't hear people yelling "ADLER!" at concerts like they yell "Slash!" at "New" GN'R concerts.

I don't think drummers are very important in general compared to most other members of bands, such as vocalists or guitarists. That's just my opinion.

The sound and style of a drummer is important, but sticking someone behind a kit does take them out of the limelight and makes it difficult for anyone to get acquainted with them... that's just the nature of the musician.  But I hated Sorum - he didn't have any real talent in my opinion - - - where was brain when Axl hired matt?  :hihi:

Brain puts Matt to shame.

Matt's not bad as a drummer, but I simply hate his attitude in real life. He's the type of guy who thinks he's hot shit and is a real self-obsessed jerk. You can tell any time you see interviews or read what he's said/written. I remember seeing a Behind-the-Scenes with VR during an autograph signing and you'd think it was The Matt Sorum Band the way he was hogging the spotlight. It's like, "Dude, the only reason you're there is because of Slash and Duff. Period." If he hadn't been in GN'R and met those guys he never would have been invited to VR - and he'd still be a nobody.

U2 has taken foever to record their last two albums though so I wouldn't be surprised if Rubin works with them for a while and then bails out to work with someone else be it VR or Metallica. U2 always seem to switche producers durring recording.  Steve Lillywhite and Eno and Lanois are always a possibility and it's also rumored that they may be working with Jacknife Lee on their new album. I wouldn't worry too much about Rubin be occupied with U2 for any long stretches. he may stick with them throughout the process but it could likely be an on again off again thing.

Whoa! I don't know about that RR.  I know a few guys in bands and the biggest problem is always finding a guy who kicks ass on drums and who can play with the band.  One of my buddies has been in three bands, all of which were really good and actually legitimately working towards a deal but all three times their drummer quit and the band fell apart once they were unable to find a proper replacement. One of these bands he was in actually switched guitar players once and didn't seem to miss a beat. I'd think drummers are likely the most underrated ingrediant when it comes ot forming  band.

drummers after adler have never been important for gnr new or old because the ones who were selected were always good... it would be like getting slash page and joe perry each time you need a guitarist.. it wouldn't seem tough..

Has anyone given a tentative time frame of when VR is to release their new album?

i disagree with drummers being the most replaceable members of a band.  Can you imagine Led zeppelin without Bonzo - ummm, exactly - neither could they.  Nirvana, once they got Dave grohl behind the kit, were unstoppable - i think largely due to his AWESOME talent.  Some bands obviously it doesnt matter as their sound as a whole is replaceable to a certain extent (eg Oasis....), but I think drummers are v important - and Brain is one of the best new-er members of GnR.  Remember donnington this year after november rain finished - axl grinning his face off and telling us how Brain loves to beat the shit out of a love song - it was amazing.

I can't remember, why does stuff like this not make the main news page on HTGTH anymore?  Stuff from anyone involved with GNR used to be posted all the time.  Now I know that news used to be very hard to come by, but I think people would be interested to know what all of the guys are up to.  Was there an official explanation for why it stopped?

Too much newsworthy GNR hype right now... people get bored with reading subtle mentions and stuff like this just isn't important.  If it was a dead year, you might find it on the front page... but this is far from a dead year  :peace:

so they write songs faster? Metallica put out how many cd now and vr pyut out and they still take for ever. they suck their songs suck and they cant write shit. they are out of ideas after one cd.

you cant really judge that until you hear the album.

many of us could have argued the same about axl and co before he started to get off his arse to tour and somone leaked the songs.

not true. Matt is a really nice guy and very personable member of VR. You can't fault him for enjoying his fame

Enjoying fame is one thing but being a self obsessed prick does not make me a fan of his and his drumming technique is really boring. I've read plenty of interviews with him and 90% of the time I walk away losing more and more respect each time he opens his mouth.
I'm honestly amazed that the guy actually has fans. If it weren't for Gnr, he would probably just be known as the touring drummer for The Cult. :smoking:

You can say the same about other musicians that some board members like.  :P

I'm not a Matt fan, but his drumming on CB is pretty good  : ok:

I have to agree.  He's arrogant and can't really back it up.  I was never impressed by him or his 15 minute solos during the illusion era.  Frankly, I'm amazed that people got into it at all.  The best part of those solos were the at the end of the beat when it merged with Slash's solo...

Great drummers arent irreplaceable.

Any drummer besides Tommy in Motley Crue and its an entirely different band.

I dont think Brain owns Matt, I think we have to wait and see what kind of drumming he has on CD before we can make some sort of claim like that.


I hate Steven Adler but he OWNS both of them.


Matt is a certified TOOL though, i always hated that guy.

Matt is a good but thats all, its all about the dudes hair, when Lars had long hair Metallica were the greatest thing in Metal but look at him now.

VR will write faster songs than Metallica when Matt changes his hair style.

so in your opinion drummers are like samson..
no hair.. no power

I would say yes but i've no idea what you're talking about.

Lol that was a pretty good come back!

Anyways... my 2cents.. I hated Matts drumming on CB... very.. robot sounding. Especally in Dirty Little Thing... the drums kill that song for me.?

he said they will write songs that are faster, not faster songs  ::)

As Joe Strummer once put it, a band is only as good as its drummer.?

Without Moon, The Who would have been vastly different.

Without Bonham, Led Zep would have been vastly different (and when you see how shitty all their post-Zep work is, it makes you really consider Strummer's comment).

Without Lars, Metallica would be vastly different.

Without Grohl, Nirvana would have been vastly different.

Real hard rock bands need real drummers, and the shortage of good modern drummers may explain the shortage of good modern rock.

By that rationale does the same go for Adler and GNR?

There music lost a little something when he left.

its still great dont get me wrong but it wasnt as swingy and rhythmic

Do you lot even know fuck all about drummers?  Shit... get past the fucking boring MATTS BETTER OR WORSE shit.  Fucking waste of time.

You wanna hear good drumming, fucking forget Tommy Lee, Matt Sorum, Brain, etc... you gotta listen to drummers like David Mackintosh (Dragonforce), Michael 'Moose' Thomas (Bullet for My Valentine), Constable Wills (Story of the Year).

These drummers take drumming to a more musical and structural level than any of the 'classic' guys.  Sorry, but this drummer bullshit fucks me off.  Go listen to the drummers I've listed.

I was always a bigger fan of Matt's drumming than Adler's, but I've been listening to AFD allot lately, and I'd have to agree with you. Those songs all have a really great groove thanks to Steve's drumming.

You forgot Mike Portnoy.

Exactly.

I LOVE Matt and Steve and Brain's drumming, all for different reasons.  But when it comes to technique etc, let's remember, that they're straigh ahead rock drummers... so many other drummers doing so much more technical shit.

That said ... I still think Matt Sorum is one of the best because of the stuff he plays, not because of the technique.  Same way Slash is my favorite guitarist because he wrote songs like Nightrain, Don't Damn Me, Coma, etc.  PLUS, he can play his ass off :)

Please tell me that doesn't say BFMV up there  ::)

 :peace:

Back on topic please, plenty of drummer debate/discussion in the Dead Horse and Jungle sections.

Thank you.

Don't be so fucking narrow minded.  And Falcon is right... this is why I said it... because I wanted you lot to stop being such pricks and ranting about how shit or whatever Matt Sorum is on drums...

back on topic!  w00t

All GNR drummers rock end of discussion