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Title: Singles Question
Post by: Chief on September 20, 2006, 01:25:18 AM
How many singles do you think the new album will have?

do bands even release a lot of singles these days? i don't really know since I don't listen to the radio...

discuss.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: -Jack- on September 20, 2006, 01:53:16 AM
I bet 3  :peace:


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 20, 2006, 02:10:12 AM
3 or 4
One every 3 months or so.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: jazjme on September 20, 2006, 02:16:58 AM
singles are promotional devices, and this age of !Tunes, and other stuff, singles really dont matter in the true sence, kinda not really as tangable as holding a LP.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: jc524 on September 20, 2006, 02:29:29 AM
singles are promotional devices, and this age of !Tunes, and other stuff, singles really dont matter in the true sence, kinda not really as tangable as holding a LP.


how about radio play?? ::)


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: jazjme on September 20, 2006, 02:30:58 AM
singles are promotional devices, and this age of !Tunes, and other stuff, singles really dont matter in the true sence, kinda not really as tangable as holding a LP.
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how about radio play?? ::)

well that is governed by sales. commercials , advertizing.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on September 20, 2006, 03:50:14 AM
If Oh my god is gonna be on the record then i guess that?s the first one..but i don?t think so at all...

I think the first one is gonna be - Better...because it?s the best...And then i think they?ll do Chinese...because i just think so..hehe..Imagine the video..Axl comes down the stairs into a teenage room..Then the others come in and they start playing..great song, great video...

the third one would maybe be IRS ....

Whatcha think ?


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: melissa on September 20, 2006, 04:02:30 AM
I hope it will be a single soon.

maybe Chinese Democracy or Better [my favourite], but it doesn'i matter what song, as long as a single is realesed [ meaning: the album is on its way.....]


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: liesin on September 20, 2006, 04:32:25 AM
I hope it will be a single soon.

maybe Chinese Democracy or Better [my favourite], but it doesn'i matter what song, as long as a single is realesed [ meaning: the album is on its way.....]


true, but thats the only good thing 'bout a singel, only good thing 'boout singles are the possible b-sides.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Brody on September 20, 2006, 05:07:30 AM
If Oh my god is gonna be on the record then i guess that?s the first one..but i don?t think so at all...
Whatcha think ?

No way..


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: TOPGUNner on September 20, 2006, 05:32:55 AM
Normally, bands usually if they're successful get about 3 singles off of an album I'd say. However, in the case of Guns and Roses and past albums, they far surpass that. This time around though, with a new band and over a decade since the last album? let's see if the general public will hold on to one. It's hard to say whether or not when a single is released it'll be successful. I mean, to us hardcore fans, it's a big deal. To the rest of the world? I don't know. And don't forget, it's not like in the early 90's when UYI was released, the world was listening to rock. Nowadays, they're listening to pop and rap more than anything. So only time will tell


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on September 20, 2006, 05:43:50 AM
 :drool: Who knows? Not really worth discussing IMO.  No one can say for sure, and it's not that interesting to speculate about : ok:


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on September 20, 2006, 07:09:15 AM
In today's age singles mostly are to tell the radio station which song to play on the radio.  They trust in the band / management that these are their "best songs" as the station won't listen to the whole album and pick their favs out at first.  So at least promotional singles will exist.  The market for singles in North America is brutal at best.  We'll have to count on Europe for consumer singles most likely.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: robinfinckfan on September 20, 2006, 07:19:12 AM
I think singles still matter and carry weight. RHCP 'dani california' for example was all over the place when it came out as i would expect the new gnr single if/when it's ever released.

I don't know about CD though, I think were all going to be a little suprised by the lack of promotion it gets.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: CheapJon on September 20, 2006, 07:56:47 AM
13  : ok:


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: russtcb on September 20, 2006, 09:20:38 AM
I'd say 4 or 5. I believe the record is going to be heavily supported for about a year or 2.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: blaqktiger on September 20, 2006, 10:00:24 AM
well so far from what we have heard the following could all be singles IMO.

- Chinese Democracy
- Better
- I.R.S.
- The Blues
- Madagascar

I'm going to guess we will have 5 singles, and 3 of them are in that list.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: slashisvr on September 20, 2006, 11:37:03 AM
i reckon 3 singles, i dont have a clue to guess, there is so many tracks we havent heard!


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: slash666 on September 20, 2006, 12:23:10 PM
i hope for 5 or 6


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Axl Z on September 20, 2006, 12:37:16 PM
they did 4 from appeitite,
Welcome To The Jungle,
Sweet Child O? Mine,
Paradise City,
Nightrain


and 3 from use your illusion I (if you count don't cry from illusion I).
Live And Let Die
Don?t Cry
November Rain


5 from use your illusion II
You Could Be Mine
Knockin? On Heavens Door
Yesterdays
The Civil War E.P
Estranged


so i'm guessing 4 singles!? :peace:


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: GNRfan2008 on September 20, 2006, 12:41:40 PM
I don't know what the number will be, but my guess is 3 or 4. I am almost 100% certain that "Better" and "Madagascar" will be singles.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: ppbebe on September 20, 2006, 12:49:55 PM
hmm, 3 to
6 as Dizzy said they had at least a couple of versions for each song.
I don't know much about single records but there're b sides, nay, cheapjonday?


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: faldor on September 20, 2006, 03:18:30 PM
The music industry has changed SO much over the years, I don't know how important or prominent singles are anymore.  You usually hear 1 initial single from a band's album, and maybe 2 or 3 more songs.  It's not like back in the day when you'd get ready for a new video to premiere on MTV every 3 months or so.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Evergrey88 on September 20, 2006, 05:01:32 PM
they did 4 from appeitite,
Welcome To The Jungle,
Sweet Child O? Mine,
Paradise City,
Nightrain


and 3 from use your illusion I (if you count don't cry from illusion I).
Live And Let Die
Don?t Cry
November Rain


5 from use your illusion II
You Could Be Mine
Knockin? On Heavens Door
Yesterdays
The Civil War E.P
Estranged


so i'm guessing 4 singles!  :peace:

Didn't they have a single/video for Garden of Eden also on USI I??


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on September 20, 2006, 05:08:21 PM
wrong...it?s so easy / Mr Brownstone..you forgot !!!...and you call yourself a fan...hehehe naaw kidding..But iv?e seen a single with It?s so easy / Mr brownstone..Double A - Side i belive...


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: rockerroller on September 20, 2006, 05:16:19 PM
Its so easy was a single and so was garden of eden


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on September 20, 2006, 07:26:37 PM
Don't forget It's So Easy ;)

IMO, the more singles, the more successful a record is.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Back Off Bitch on September 20, 2006, 07:38:46 PM
Pretty Tied up got a single too...

I bet The Blues will be a single... That song is epic... My favorite 'new'-Gn'R song...


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on September 20, 2006, 07:42:45 PM
PTU wasn't a single!  ???

Go to RELEASES on the main page and click on the respective album.

Garden of Eden wasn't a radio single it just had a video.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: GunsN'Gravy on September 20, 2006, 07:42:53 PM
:drool: Who knows? Not really worth discussing IMO.? No one can say for sure, and it's not that interesting to speculate about : ok:
Great post.
I hope that it will be a brand new unleaked song that we haven't heard yet, I'd like it to be a slower rock song though. The blues would be perfect but I've heard it so many times it wouldn't get me excited.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: Mustapha on September 20, 2006, 07:48:45 PM
An average sucess record from a very sucessful in past band usually gets 3 singles. If the record is a hit, then 4-5 singles tops. That's how the industry is working these days.
Take for example U2's "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb". It was hugely sucessful all over the world and it got 5 singles, so don't expect much more from Chinese Democracy. My opinion is that the album will be massive in the first weeks (the fans buying : ok:) and then... well, it's all up to the singles then... If the singles are hits, then we will probably have 4 or 5 of them.

From what we have heard so far, and having in mind what I just said, the best way to promote Chinese Democracy should be releasing a rocker as a first single, (let's say... Better) and then, more radio friendly tunes, such as The Blues, Madagascar and TWAT. All of these should have a conceptual video ala the old days to play on MTV and there you have it, a very sucessful album.

Anyway, at the end of day, we will always get whatever is on Axl's head... Let's just hope he has there the thought "to release the album"...


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: jeorose on September 20, 2006, 10:49:40 PM
you forgot Dead Horse, Garden of eden and Garden


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: jeorose on September 20, 2006, 10:50:59 PM
they did 4 from appeitite,
Welcome To The Jungle,
Sweet Child O? Mine,
Paradise City,
Nightrain


and 3 from use your illusion I (if you count don't cry from illusion I).
Live And Let Die
Don?t Cry
November Rain


5 from use your illusion II









You Could Be Mine
Knockin? On Heavens Door
Yesterdays
The Civil War E.P
Estranged


so i'm guessing 4 singles!  :peace:
you forgot Dead Horse, Garden of eden and Garden


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: JDA on September 20, 2006, 11:40:14 PM
4 singles : ok:


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: ryan_of_lax on September 21, 2006, 10:51:56 AM
Dead Horse, Garden Of Eden and The Garden didn't have singles. As in, 4 song CDs in which each song was the main song, or 7" records.

The death of vinyl killed singles. Its too confusing now with bands putting 5-10 tracks on singles. Usually all just different mixes of the same song. 45s were great because you had the A side and the B side, usually nothing more.

What makes everyone think there will be B-sides though?
The only actual B-side that GNR released was Shadow Of Your Love. All the other songs on the singles were other LP songs, live songs, or a demo (Don't Cry).


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: CAFC Nick on September 21, 2006, 11:13:50 AM
Green Day's American Idiot had 4 singles (American Idiot, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Holiday and Wake Me Up When September Ends). I think CD will have 4 singles just like this. My guess would be Chinese Democracy, Better, Madagascar and A New track.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: lennonisgod on September 21, 2006, 11:52:30 AM
If Oh my god is gonna be on the record then i guess that?s the first one..but i don?t think so at all...

I think the first one is gonna be - Better...because it?s the best...And then i think they?ll do Chinese...because i just think so..hehe..Imagine the video..Axl comes down the stairs into a teenage room..Then the others come in and they start playing..great song, great video...

the third one would maybe be IRS ....

Whatcha think ?

Sounds like an awesome video idea... : ok:


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: MisterSaintLaurent on September 21, 2006, 12:31:44 PM
A single doesn't need to be released commercially for it to be a single. A single is any song the record company decides to specifically market (be it through radio play, a commercial single, a music video, or all three). Appetite For Destruction had five singles (It's So Easy, Welcome To The Jungle, Sweet Child O' Mine, Paradise City, and Nightrain). Use Your Illusion I had six singles (Don't Cry, Live And Let Die, November Rain, The Garden, Dead Horse, and Garden Of Eden). Use Your Illusion II had six singles (Civil War, You Could Be Mine, Pretty Tied Up, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Yesterdays, and Estranged).

I personally expect Chinese Democracy to produce four singles as I believe the record company will try to squeeze two Christmas seasons out of the release.


Title: Re: Singles Question
Post by: bigcash2002 on September 22, 2006, 07:57:41 PM
3-4 singles