Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=58406

 :rant:

Eh, I don't like it anyway. Don't make nuh difference tuh me.  ;)

Well, the next time it might be something you do like...

This is ridiculous, even though I'm not familiar with all the albums, a general ban on black metal just makes no sense. Albums should be treated individually.

Ain't their right to take away. Im no fan, but its seriously bs.

Whats next? No GNR cause of One In A Million?

The point isn't if you like it or not, its that they shouldn't have the right to decide. Seriously. Who's to say they can't take off all metal? Or books of controversy?

Sure they have a right to decide... it's their business.  If those albums violated eBay's policies for items that can be put up for sale, then they should be removed.

The largest chain of bookstores in Canada doesn't permit Mein Kampf to be sold in their stores, either.

At least ebay have taste. ;D

Damn

Where will i get music about murder, sung by murders from now?

Inconsiderate b*****ds :hihi:

what serious black metal fan uses ebay anyways

Dunno, to get his/her hands on a rare album perhaps?

you don't even know what you're saying. next time it could be one in a million like -Jack- said. it's already started with the guns t-shirts : ok: nowadays a lot of people started acting like retard with new rules trying to be politically correct. idiots

Exactomundo.

If these albums violate their policies - and, apparently, they do - then eBay has every right to ditch them. I very much doubt they will start banning anything else.

I understood the ban on sale of bodies and organs, etc... but why black metal?  :confused:

Probably because black/death metal is commonly associated with violence, sexism, racism, and so on - and the lyrics themselves violate many of eBay's terms and conditions. Frankly I don't think death metal freaks use eBay much to begin with so I can't imagine fans around the world are going to go slit their wrists because eBay stopped selling I Want to Fuck You in the Mouth with a Nail Gun and Rape You Between Your Fingers albums or something.

It was only certain black metal albulms that appear to be associated with neo-nazism, apparantly.

Shit, I've missed all that. Must be listening to the wrong albums :'(


Don't they now? I really don't know where you come up with this stuff... Death/black metal fans, if ANYONE, use a service like eBay because there are so many limited pressings of LP's etc, I can't even begin to tell you.

Apparently so.

Blabbermouth was the one who was "assuming" that there was a general ban on black metal.  It looks to me like eBay have listed the albums they've removed and the policy they violate.  So what's the problem here (other than the fact that there is some really shitty music being made)?

The fact that a quality album like IX Equilibrium is banned. There really is no reason for such a thing - there's zero offensive material there, just good music.

Skeletor nailed it. Many of those albums aren't racist at all, and many of them are simply associated with racist bands, even if they themselves are not racist. Plenty of other racist stuff (anti-white rap, for example) is still sold there. This just seems like an attack on black metal as a whole. It could spread to other genres as well, unless we do something now. I don't use Ebay anymore and I let customer support know why. Hopefully they'll get the message if enough people get upset, which is sadly unlikely with black metal.

Lots of you guys are completely new to black metal, obviously. Go listen to some old Graveland, like Thousand Swords, or perhaps some Bathory, like Blood Fire Death. There's a lot of quality black metal out there. Get it before it's illegal!

as shit as i think black metal is. I dont think they have any right to ban the selling of its items.

theres so many different types of music they could easily say is just as bad.

They could ban rap music cause it is associated with gun crime.

they could ban hard rock because it is associated with drinking/drugs

they could ban all metal because it is associated with voilence/satan  ::)

Even when we know half this stuff is stupid stereotypes, i dont think they have any right of banning a form of music without banning all music. Even if the people from (norway?) tend to go do church burnings or whatever apparently cause black metal tells them too.

they should also ban britany spears for turning little girls into whores :drool:

None of the albums on that list promote racism or anything horrendously derogatory. Not even Burzum albums have Nazi tendencies despite him now allegedly being a Nazi. If these people took time to listen to the Burzum albums they might notice a theme of Norwegian folklore/myth or Lord of the Rings influenced lyrics.

To ban music only makes it more popular, theres no such thing as bad publicity.  I first got into Burzum cos I thought it was insane that you could actually get music like this by people like that. Not once have I decided that Id want to burn a chuch down, murder someone, be a nazi, or kill a homosexual. But fortunately amongst the Black metal scene there are so many gems that have made me the fan I am today, they also harbour musical integrity and dedication and belief in what they do - something sorely lacking in music today when everyone just wants to dive on the corporate bandwagon or sell themselves for a nanosecond of fame whilst having no belief in anything they do.

Its funny that you can have a mumbling prick like 50 Cent (No Cents more like) glorifying gun violence and drug dealing and the fact that doing so will give you untold wealth but you cant have someone worshpping Satan - an archaic concept that now manifests itself in the results of music that is endlessly promoted by the likes of the aforementioned Mr Cent, crime does pay, being a pimp crack dealer mo'fo pays. Whats more real or evil? Street crime and thuggery or people in corpsepaint writing about worshipping the Devil or their countries heritage and  mythology? We dont have gangs, crack and gun deaths every day in England because of Varg Vikernes or because somebody decided to listen to some Mayhem. Its fucking nonsense.

Finally, I use Ebay loads for obtaining Black Metal because they have all of those wonderful hard to find obscure stuff.

Recommended BM albums for those that want to listen to something more than GNR -

Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger
Arcturus - La Masquerade Infernal (or the Sham Mirrors)
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Enslaved - Frost
Vreid - Kraft
Anaal Nathrakh - Domine Nom Dignus
Ulver - Bergtatt

I love a good rant!  :beer:

 

^Great post!! :)

I just have to make the mandatory comment about genres though: La Masquerade Infernale is more like avant-garde metal, and The Sham Mirrors is closer to progressive metal, really (excluding the song Radical Cut). Of course both these albums came after the awesome black metal gem that is Aspera Hiems Symfonia (featuring lyrics dealing with Nordic folklore and wintry landscapes - nothing "advocating hate" there, who could have figured? :o)

http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/a_burzum_story07.shtml

Burzum is more of a paganist than a racist. He still hates people with brown hair, though, even other whites. ;) In his book Vargsmal, he explains a lot of this stuff.

I fully appreciate that the above albums are not strictly black metal but instead shows a progression of black metal that people on here might find more accessible.

Fucking brillint they are too!