Here Today... Gone To Hell!

about 2 months ago i posted a topic about how the eagles are gonna do and everyone disagreed with me but as you can see they are back and better than ever....the question i want to ask is ......is stallworth the new T.O. for the eagles??? :beer:

its been one week...give it time

HAHAHA Calm down dude, u guys beat the fuckin Houston Texans! :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

so funny and yet so true :rofl: come back in week 9 or so :hihi:

stallworth is a good receiver however he isnt anywhere near TO's level.

Philly will win 9 games.

everyone forgets about all the injuries the eagles had last year. the D was decimated, mcnabb was not himself all year and out for the season after week 7, westbrook was out at week 8.

this year, we're very deep in the trenches. we rotate 8-9 guys on the D-Line. and howard is a huge upgrade at DE.

our schedule is easy through the first 10 games.   

and say what you want about our WR, but they are better than any group of recievers we had in 2000 - 2003, and in each of those 4 years we made the playoffs (including 3 NFC champ games).

i knew we would bounce back this year. i was thinking 9-10 wins. now i'm thinking maybe 11 wins. the NFC east may not be as tough as everyone thought. (skins = frauds.)   

U still don't have a power running game Sandman and Lito Sheppard is out for a while.  Philly play in the toughest division......

Stallworth is a huge upgrade over anything they had in the Pre TO years though, I give u that. Still, if u guys beat the NYGiants Sunday, Ill give u props. But beating Houston shouldn't impress or get anyone's hopes up.

but we never really did have a power running game (although i really wish we did).

AND r. hood is an excellent corner filling in for lito. i actually like him better than lito (more physical). but that's a good point since overall our secondary is weakened without him. it will show in our nickle package.

i'm not getting too excited over 1 win vs. a shit-hole team. but watching the game i saw alot of good signs of a much-improved, very good team. two more i didn't mention:

1. buckhalter - another huge injury risk, but he looked awesome (8 carries for 50 yards). not exactly a "power" guy, but more so than westbrook.

2. mccoy - 2nd year LB had a monster game. LB was considered a weakness. jury is still out on this guy, but he got off to a really good start. if he's the real deal, our D is set.

Mark my words, the Eagles will finish in last in the NFC East.  That's not to say they'll be bad, cause the division is so good, but they'll still finish last.  You won one game against the team that had the worst record in the fucking league last year.  Donte Stallworth is a good receiver, but he's not in TO's league.  McNabb looked pretty good against a terrible defenseive unit.  My pick in the Eagles win about 9 games and still finish behind the Skins, Giants, and Cowgirls.

Hey! Screw you Rob (no offense intended), the Eagles will finish with no less then 10 wins. I've been hooked on Eagles fever baby!

amen.   :hihi:

If the Eagles aren't 5-1 after their first 6 games, they'll be disappointing.  Total creampuff schedule for the 1st 6 weeks.....then it gets tough.   : ok:

are you on crack???!!!    behind the skins?!?!?!?!   read up on football then come talk to me....personally....you suck at life ...so shut up

thats what i wanna hear!!!!! :beer:

Haha, I really shouldn't dignify that with a response but I'm in a good mood so I'll humor you.  You're obviously quite intelligent with such a witty well-worded response to my post.  The Eagles beating last season's worst football team is hardly a reason to think they're going to win the best division in football.  Especially since the other three teams have all improved themselves going into this season.  I don't need to read up on football.  I'm extremely knowledgeable when it comes to that sport.  I wouldn't come talk to you personally if you payed me.  And telling people to shut up over the internet is really pretty sad, dude.  I guess I'll conclude by reminding you my Skins did sweep your Eagles last season.  That's all.

ok and they "sweeped" them why???? cuz he had a hurnia...if thats how ya spell it...but anyway....your probly a loser that sits on your computer all day and talks shit to people to make your own pathetic life seem worth living....so again....shut up and DIE!!!!

you're in for a huge disappointment. the skins will not make the playoffs. brunell is a stiff. they barely made the playoffs last season. everything went right for them down the stretch and they snuck in.

and dallas already has a QB controversey. bledsoe is not a great QB. and the league knows if you get pressure on him, you win the game. the sooner they make the change to romo, the better. luckily for non-dallas fans, parcells will stay with bledsoe a few weeks too long.  :hihi:

the division will come down to the giants and the eagles. this week's game is so huge. i actually think the giants will win a close game (i'll guess 16-13). but i still think the birds will win 10-11 games.

I agree Drew Bledsoe sucks. I don't know why Bill is so hung up on him

I pray they start Tony Romo. I think we are a playoff team with Romo but Bledsoe is the ultimate stiff.

I am a Cowboy fan so take what I say about the Eagles with a grain of salt! :hihi:

i agree 100%. the sooner they make the change, the better off they will be. bill has a long history with bledsoe, and he loves veterans. so dallas will probably be about 2-4 before he realizes the best QB for this team is romo.

i'm going to the eagles-cowboys game on oct. 8. always an insane time. and this year will be extra crazy due to the return of TO. although i'm in the minority of fans here in philly that actually like TO.

Define stiff.? I know Brunell is old and his best years are behind him, but he did a good job last season, and against Minnesota he wasn't the problem.? The problem was that we couldn't stop the Vikings on 3rd and long.? In regards to that, keep in mind that our best cornerback, Shawn Springs, did not play in that game.? And the Redskins hardly snuck in to the playoffs last year.? They won 5 straight games in impressive fashion.? They blew out both the Giants and Cowboys in the last few weeks of the season, and then won on the road to get in in the last week against a divisional rival.? And then they went on the road the next week and beat Tampa in the first round of the playoffs.? And they gave the eventual NFC Champ Seahwaks a very competitive game in Seatle.? You guys are getting way too excited about just one week of football.? There's 15 games still to go, guys.? The Eagles were the only team to win in Week 1, but they played by far the worst team of anyone in the division.? The Boys lost to a tough Jaguar team on the road (the Jags won 12 games last year), the Giants lost to the Colts, and although the Vikings aren't great they're certainly better than the Texans.? Its a long season, need a remind you the Eagles started 3-1 last season and starting out TO and Donovan were the best of friends.? Shit can go bad real fast in the NFL.

Nope, T.O. and McNabb have hated each other since the end of the 2004 season.

They told you so?

Donovan will blow it! He always does!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

you must forget about the cheap shots TO took at mcnabb on ESPN long before the 2005 season started. he said he choked in the SB on national TV. that was in spring of 2005.

the TO fiasco started long before the season started. and yes, it's now well known that they were not getting along during the second half of 2004. ?

and we can agree to disagree who the best teams are in the NFC east. time will tell. my predictions:

eagles 11-5
giants 10-6
cowboys 8-8
skins 7-9

After you make it to 4 straight NFC Championships & 1 Super Bowl, just making the playoffs is meaningless. The Eagles were still in it (a longshot) around Thanksgiving and I didn't even want them to make the playoffs. Why, so they can lose. It's all about the Super Bowl, nothing else, which is why I think Parcells is playing Bledsoe. Is Tony Romo really going to take Dallas to the Super Bowl??? :no:



This is false. In training camp TO said something about Donovan & his Super Bowl performance & McNabb replied in a press conference to him saying "Keep my name out your mouth"?

They weren't speaking outside of gameday.

eagles blew it today. i truly hate andy reid. and as great a talent mcnabb is, he still does stupid shit.

still, they dominated 2/3 of today's game. i actually feel better about them now than i did before today's game.

they got lazy and didn't put the game away. but i saw alot of really good things. they have a good shot at winning the division.

man, that was a crazy game...NYG looked like total shit after the first drive, and the defense for philly looked too much for the giants...man 5 sacks?! but as soon as they got that TD in the 3rd i had a feeling they were gonna make it close...i never figured they would win though....

well...like the title of the thread says


"HOW BOUT THEM EAGLES" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: bonus for me too cuz i got Eli in a football pool ;) :hihi:

I'm from the greater Philly Area and I hate that fucking team.  They're a joke.

Glad to see they got their asses handed back to them at the end of the game.  :hihi:

7td's, 1 int, almost 1000 yards in 3 games

fuck you

Wow Houston now SF, u guys are Superbowl bound for sure ::) :hihi:

It's a long season, not 3 games. Let's see where they are at the end of December.

Cowboys fan. Definitely a Cowboys fan.


You're right, we have only beaten Houston & SF, but we should have beat the Giants. I'm cool with it though, because the way I look at it, had we won that game, they would have lost 1 to either the 49ers, GB, or Titans. Now they won't because they'll be more focused. Also, I figure we will lose 2 in our division, we already lost 1 to the Giants, and probably we will lose only 1 to either the Cowgirls, or Redskins. Probably AT Dallas. TO will have a monster game in one of 'em.

See you in December KK, when we'll be 11-5.  ;D

the birds have had some very significant injuries as well. kearse is done for the year - huge blow and our DL still looked solid.

CB lito has been out 2 weeks and will be back soon.
CB hood was out for a week.
WR stallworth didn't play last week.

these are key playmaking positions we've been thin at due to injuries. if we get all these guys healthy, we're gonna be even better.

GO BIRDS!!

And the boys will be smiling down at  you when we are 12-4 or even 13-3. :peace:

I don't understand why everyone is so down on the team.  IMO if the defense holds up and plays well this team is better than any of the 3 rosters that went to the NFC championship before the Super Bowl year.

Just because we had one bad season, full of injuries, and T.O. problems doesn't mean we're a bad team...  People seem to have long term memory loss and forget that this team was great before T.O., and we'll be great after T.O..

D-Mac is on his way to an MVP season, and as long as he stays healthy we'll have no problem making the playoffs.

Eagles 10-6 / 1st in the division.

Fly Eagles Fly... ;D

Dude u guys beat Houston and SF, blew a huge lead to the Giants

So dont get too excited. Your team hasnt proven anything yet.

quote of the year by ron "jaws" jaworski on espn game day...

"Donavan McNabb is stroking it right now."

 :hihi:

Dude this team was good before we got T.O. and we'll stay good now that he's gone.

People seem to forget that the Eagles had the best record in the NFL and made the playoffs every year from 2000-2005.  We had a year FULL of injuries (more than half of our starters on offense and defense missed games because of injury or suspention) last year and the headcase of T.O.

If this team is healthy there's no reason to think that they won't be as good (if not even better) as they were in 2004.

Can u say the Defense is as good though?

the 2004 Eagles D never would've blown a three TD lead in a quarter.

most people think this D is better. our secondary was better in 2004, LB you could argue either way, but our DL is MUCH better in 2006. even with the injury to kearse.

the 2004 D was average early on. simineou was our starting ML. he was AWFUL. trotter began starting mid-season and that improved our D greatly.

part of the reason we blew that lead to the giants was injuries (in addition to our O going into a shell).

has anyone ever heard of Joselio Hanson?? that's who was covering burress most of the second half because of injuries.

D - i can't let a cowboys fan rag on the Birds!  : ok:

this will be a fun week leading up to sunday's game. after we take care of the ancient favre tonight.  :hihi:

i watched the cowboys game yesterday, and although they played the terrible titans, they actually looked good. bledsoe made some great throws. TO and glenn are a dangerous combo. and j. jones looks awesome - he's matured into a great runner.

While I agree they wouldn't have, I don't think this D will ever do it again.

I think that our D right now isn't as good, but has the potential to be.  When Lito Sheppard and Rod Hood come back, we have one of the best secondaries in the NFL, and our D-Line is probably the best I've seen it since the early 90's.

Well the Eagles are gonna come crashing down to earth this weekend when the Cowboys light them up!! All the focus will  be on Owens but Terry Glen is gonna quietly take care of business and burry the Eagles.  J.J.  is gonna have a great game too. :headbanger:

Hey, I got a great idea, we do this over at my s ports forum

How bout we do a one week Signature bet.

If Dallas wins, U have to post in your Sig whatever I tell u to

If Philly win I have to rock whatever u want me to in my Sig.

Nothing that could get us banned.

sounds good. count me in. what is my sports forum? you wanna just PM each other what the sig will have to be?

last season, philly fans sung: "TOOOOOOOOOOO, TO, TO, TOOO, TOOO, TOOO"

this sunday we'll be singing: "ODDDDDD, OD, OD, ODDD, ODDD, ODDD"   :rofl:

You heard it here first:
Oct. 8, 2006

Cowboys 28, Eagles 10

I post at www.2ksports.com under Machine24

I have a great football game on their where we pick the winners each week and I keep the standings and all that.

Anyhow, whoever wins PM's the other with what they want them to sport in their signature.

Yeah right.. the Eagles don't play Defense that way.  They're not going to ignore Glenn just because Owens is on the other side of the feild, if anything they'll put more focus on Glenn since he's being used more this season than TO.  Jones might not be as effective as you think either, the Eagles have stopped every running back they faced so far this year, including Tiki.

sounds good.  : ok:

as for the game, it's a tough matchup. it could be a dogfight. lito's health is critical. and it looks like stallworth won't play.

the birds need to get pressure on bledsoe, who has only been sacked 3 times this year. he's considered a statue, but if you can't get to him, he lights you up (400+ yards against us last year).

i think the TEs are gonna be huge. LJ needs to have a big game, especially with stallworth out. and witten worries me. dahani jones has been playing well, but i still don't trust him covering TEs. no TE has done much against us this year, but i think that could change this week.
 

by the way, tix have been going for $200-$450 a piece on e-bay depending on location.

i sit upstairs near the 10-yard line so i could get about $250. a couple of my buddies want to sell. i was just on the phone with them for 10 minutes convincing them not too. the atmosphere is gonna be insane.

 :o If they sell their tix they are not true Eagles fans.

Sell outs. :'(

So, how is TO gonna do tomorrow???

Sandman's serious.  On local Philly sports radio, everybody's talking about the O.D. chant for T.O.

I cant wait for Sunday, I just hope the game isnt a let down.

This is like the Superbowl in some ways. Its gonna be must see TV

I dont know why they didnt have this on Monday Night Football.


I think a big deciding factor is gonna be who does the best between Julius Jones and Brian Westbrook.

Philly I dont think have the corners to cover Glenn and TO especially if Lito is out.

i don't think westbrook is playing. he did not participate in the walkthrough yesterday, which is not a good sign.

without him, dallas will win. he is the key to the offense.

doesn't look like stallworth is playing either. and reggie brown is questionable. looks like lito is back though. 

i can't wait either. it's gonna be insane. i'll be in the parking lot at 8am. weather is looking perfect....70 and sunny.

Cowboys are gonna light the birds up!  : ok:

I hate the Eagles and I hate most of their fans!  :peace:

Thanks for the headsup Dude, I have Westbrook on one of my fantasy teams, So i guess I better go sit his ass.

it's gonna be a gametime decision on westbrook. i have him as well in my league, and i don't want to get burnt again like last week. so i'm going with my backup (maroney - woudl have won last week if i had started him!).

i also have TO. i'm hoping he has a big game, but the birds win. today's paper says lito will be covering him.

i'm off to the party....enjoy the game!!!

Westbrook is playing! woot.

I don't care if TO has 40 catches today, as long as the birds win.

Game time in 50 min. :)

HAHAHA Fuck yea!! EAGLES 38 COWBOYS 24.

I guess we showed the 'boys who the men are tonight.

T.whO?  3 catches for how many yards?

See ya on Christmas 'boys. ;D

Haha, Cowboys suck and so do their bandwagon fans.? Bunch of F'ing looosers!!? :P? T. (wh)O. is a dope, he had all this and walked away from it. He got everything he deserved.. Wouldn't he have rather played on the Eagles side of the ball? Then why'd he leave the team to play with those bunch of hacks. We didn't even have our best wide receiver and McNabb still threw for 350 yards :hihi:? Oh yeah, but T.o would rather play with Favre :hihi:.

Philadelphia gave T.O. the keys to the castle, but he threw them all way. McNabb's not perfect, but he's still one of the top 5 QB's in the league.

When are we gonng to see that new Signature D?

As soon as Sandman Pm's me with it.


Drew Bledsoe has got to be the worst QB in the NFL.

I hate Joe fuckin Buck, did u hear that cocksucker on TV tryin to make a big deal out of TO getting a little pissed on the sideline?

Who can blame TO from being pissed off yesterday.? Its like Dallas deliberately didnt throw him the ball to try to keep the crowd out of the game.

He had a wide open TD and Bledsoe under threw him by 5 yards and got picked.


That being said, Philly didnt impress me yesterday at all. Id Dallas Sucks what does that make Philly?

We played the absolute worst game imaginable. Basically gave them a 10-0 lead to start the game.? Then allowed 2 HUGE bullshit plays that would never work again in a million years and yet still had a shot to go into OT at the end.


If I were a Philly fan Id be anything but encouraged from this victory.

i sort of agree D. as a philly fan, i'm not taking too much from this game. as poorly as dallas played, they should have tied the game. i have some concerns about this team....

1. secondary - m. lewis is awful. i'd make constandine the starter.
2. running game/OL - we still cannot run the ball when necessary. and our OL looks average.
3. WR - teams still put single coverage on our WR. the big plays are frequently due to trick plays. but a healthy stallworth changes that.

on the flip side....

1. QB - mcnabb is playing out of his mind. i agree with D - mcnabb is the MVP.  :hihi:
2. Defense - our DL and LB are playing great. they got lots of pressure on bledsoe (they deserve SOME credit for him playing so poorly).

and in the end, a win is a win. and we found a way to win a game against a pretty good team. 

Yeah, the Eagles are supposed to beat Dallas at home, but it was a big game, and they proved they can win a big game. I like the WR's, they don't always get catches on trick plays, only the flea flicker TD was a trick, and that only accumulated 40 yards. The 75 yard Hank Baskett catch was a straight up fly route, and he just shook the DB.

As for RB's, I'd serious look into sitting Westbrook for a few weeks & having him get surgery or something on his knee checked out. Remember last year, when McNabb tried to play thru an injury? He got progressively worse.

Also, I don't think we were "given" a 10-0 lead, IIRC Westbrook fumbled on a bad play, then the Cowboys turned it right back over. I call that a draw.

We have a fairly big game against the Saints this week. I'm pretty confident they should win. They have Tampa & Jaacksonville after that, so they should win 2 out of those 3. (Beat Tampa, lose to either Jax or NO). Then they'll enter the Bye week at 6-2 and should be able to go thru the season at 11-5, winning the NFCC East. The crucial part of that will be sweeping the Redskins. They should beat the Giants next time around (revenge game), they might lose 2 out of the following Colts, Panters & Atlanta and Cowboys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwYVbSMVEM


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Trap game today, I picked against Philly!  New Orleans look for real.

new orleans does look good. especially their offense. they have alot of weapons and put together some real nice drives yesterday. their last drive took up the last 9 minutes. unreal.

still, the birds beat themselves. bonehead turnover (moats knocked wynn over as he was making a fair catch - saints recovered the muff) right before half handed NO another TD to make it 17-3 at half instead of 10-3.

then 3rd and 10 late in the game and we get called for too many men. saints convert the 3rd and 5.

The Eagles should have won that game.. they really  beat themselves.  ay.

N.O. was a lot better than I thought though.  Drew Brees really ran the offense perfect, and Bush and Duce compliment each other VERY well.  If their defense can hold up (which I'm still suspect about...) they should be able to be a good playoff team come year end...

That being said, I think it made the Eagles look even better.  If they can just stop making mistakes and doing stupid things (like the NO game and the NYG game) they're a very good team who'll be very hard to beat come year's end.  McNabb is looking awesome too.  Here's hoping they can improve..

How stupid are Houston for not drafting Reggie Bush!


The thing about Stallworth is, he is never healthy. So u Philly fans are wishful thinking saying when he gets back how good u guys will be.

Thing is, who knows how healthy he will stay this season.

I was SO HAPPY to see New Orleans beat the Eagles.

The eagles lost again. Last paly of the game,a 62yrd field goal.

that' 3 stomach punch games the eagles have lost this year.

it's so much fun being a philly sports fan!!!

apparently the tampa bay kicker wasnt up to much(the commentators said this),and hadnt really kicked a field goal over 35yrd i think. Well obviously he can and did. Jacksonville next week and then a bye week. Surely they need to win against the jags to leave them at 5 and 3. 4 and 4 wouldnt be a good return.

Philly are completely overrated.

Outside Dallas they have beat no one and honestly Dallas beat themselves more than PHilly beat us.


HOw bout McNabb pukin in the huddle again. Is there a worse in shape QB in the league than McNabb?

First he gets tired in the Superbowl and blows it and now he gets wore out in a game yesterday.

I hate to say it Philly fans but T.O. was right.

the reid/mcnabb team needs to be broken up.

i hate mcnabb, but to his credit, everytime he throws up they score a TD on the drive. he cost us that game, but he had been the MVP up until that point.

AND as poorly as he played in the first half, he did everything he needed to do in the second half to win the game. the special teams and D have to be able to shut down the bucs with only 30 seconds on the clock.

but mcnabb's biggest blunder occurred at the end of the first half. ball on the 8, no timeouts, 9 seconds left. they run a play to try for a TD. he completes a pass at the 2, time runs out. no points.

that is fucking pathetic!!! and me, and every other birds fan knew it was gonna happen.

I will give Philly a small break, I mean a 62 yard FG is just unreal. : ok:

Being a lifelong Cowboy fan take anything I say about Philly with a grain of salt :hihi: :hihi:

Da Bears, all the way!!

loved the 62 yarder by the Giant reject :hihi:

Giants management  ordered ticket sellers to honor all ticket requests by matt Bryant and Rhonde Barber for their part in the Eagles defeat :rofl:

wow....just wow :( i woulda enver guess philly to be 4-4 at this point...so much for that 11-5 record :rofl:

EAGLES LOSE....AGAIN!!!!
LIFE IS SO SWEET. :peace:

ok....this is how it is....when the eagles start to win a game, they get real lazy and take it as a laydown....if they start to play like its their last game...they will stay at the top of the division....byt he way what are the division standings?

N.Y. Giants   5-2   
Dallas   4-3   
Philadelphia   4-4   
Washington   2-5

N.Y. Giants   6-2   
Dallas   ? ? ? ?4-4   
Philadelphia   4-4   
Washington   3-5


updated from week 9 ;)

The division is still up for grabs - hopefully the Eagles can go on a little RUN here.

aaaaannnnnnddddd game over....poor donovan

sorry eagles fans :-\

Sad, yes it's over. It's been a bad year, and with Garcia as backup it looks like it'll get stinky real quick. Obviously the won't make/do anything in the playoffs, but if they play Garcia he'll be worse than Mike McMahon was last year. They'll finish 1-5 & Andy will take ALOT of heat from fans. No matter what, Andy won't be? fired, however, I do have to question him & consider next year being a do or die season for his job. Miss the playoffs once, ok fine. Twice, well a string of bad luck. 3 times? Nope, not in this town.

Also, was it just me or did Garcia seem like he was complaining in the press conference afterwards?? For those out of town he said things like 'Well, in most cities the backups get some reps during the week, but here in this city McNabb takes all the reps in practice. So I really had to loosen up since I hadn't played in a while'. He also slipped and said he was just hanging out on the sideline when McNabb got hurt and "Something good came and happened to me... uhhh, well, bad actually, something bad happened, but it was good to try and come in and still help contribute to the team" or something.

I have a feeling AJ Feeley will finish out the season (our 3rd string). Why not, we suck with Garcia, might as well suck with AJ instead.

EAGLES LOSE..AGAIN :beer:
SAY HELLO TO 2007-08.
AIN'T IT FUN

aj Feely plays for SD now doesnt he?

U guys traded him to Miami a couple seasons ago.

I think u are stuck with Garcia or a Detmer

tough season for the birdz. i honestly don't know what to think of this team. they handed away a couple wins and could easily have been 6-1. but they were still getting beat by an awful titans team even before mcnabb got hurt.

the only thing i know is that they are inconsistent. at times they looked like a legitimate contender, other times we looked like a last place team.

reid announced on wednesday that garcia is starting. morningweg (offensive coordinator) coached garcia for years in san fran, so i'm sure that factored into the decision.

he's probably on a short leash though - feeley has more upside.

koy detmer was released before the season and never got picked up. somewhat controversial release since he was the longtime holder for akers. dork johnson now holds akers' balls.

Thanksgiving Day 2006:
Cowboys win, and are headed toward the division championship.
Big game coming up on Dec. 3 with the Giants. I'll take the Boys by 10.
Eagles: wait for next  year. 

Is this some kind of joke?   :rofl:

the eagles kicked the cowboys ass!!!!!!!

with the division on the line!

damn what a yo yo season this has been....congrats eagles fans :beer:

thanks. crazy season indeed.

the birds are a dangerous team right now. they're gonna be a tough out in the playoffs.

cowboy nation is hurtin this week. maybe romo should worry more about winning football games than hittin on carrie underwood just before kickoff.

Garcia is a better quaterback than McNabb.

I agree 100%. Only quarterback more overrated than McNabb is Michael Vick.

Racist.

My nickname isn't Rush Limbaugh for nothing.... :hihi:

i'm not a big mcnabb fan, but i don't think you can say garcia is better.

reid has totally changed the offensive gameplan. if he did that for mcnabb, the offense may look as good as it does now.

we'll see what garcia does in the playoffs.

and the most overrated QB in the NFL is eli manning. he sucks. he's a total waste. and he gets talked about like he's some elite QB. total bust. san diego raped NY in that trade. and i love it.

Garcia is not necessarily as talented as McNabb but he has and shows more emotion than McNabb ever has. The reason Garcia is loved is because he plays to win. I am not saying that McNabb does not but what you clearly see from Garcia is a fire and a passion to win week in and week out by the way he plays and his constant side line cheering and emotions during a game. McNabb is a little too white collar for the town that prides itself in its blue collard individuals. Garcia is the living embodiment of Rocky Balboa on the field and that?s why people love him. For God's sakes we booed him when he got back up after taking a nasty hit in the Carolina game because we all wanted Feely to come in and take over because we had some small amount of pre-established faith in him from the last time he played for us. What did Garcia do, he bore down and won the three toughest football games of the season, the same games that so many analysts had pegged as the end of Phillies chances at the playoffs. Garcia's energy helped turn the team around midseason and he fought for our respect and earned it. All we ever got with McNabb was a "my bad" gesture and he would lay up and just take over a "lets go home and regroup attitude" with a quarter and a half of football to play. Now, McNabb has had his good moments with 4th and 26th and a few other glimmers of hope but the majority of the time it does not work out for him and the team at the end.

This is the kind of thing that separates quarterbacks like McNabb from quarterbacks like Tom Brady. Now I hate Tom Brady for beating us but I will give him this, the man does nothing but win football games. Look at this year for instance, most people cant even name a single wideout for the Pats but Brady still leads the team to the playoffs and has impressive stats. When the chips are down somehow it just works out and while many people don't believe in "clutch" players it is obvious that there is something. It may be luck, it may just be repeated coincidence, it may be as simple as cracking under pressure or calling the wrong play but for some reason some players have an aura that commands victory and helps them take victory when it matters the most. Take Vince Young, now I am not a fan of qbs that run that much but the kid has done nothing but come in and make sure the team wins games. Considering all the comebacks he has made in his rookie season it?s obvious he can push himself to the point that he won?t be stopped by anyone.

Now, all of this being said I have to say that I am not sure that McNabb can do this, he has not proven it yet and I am willing to give him the chance to but in all honesty, if Jeff Garcia can someway, somehow win this team a Superbowl this year the coaching staff better be danm sure to let him fight for the starting qb job because anything less is favoritism for McNabb because he is their franchise guy and that is bull shit. If the Sixers are going to dump off A.I. then the birds better be ready for the fact that Garcia may be a better qb for this town than McNabb. All of this is just a Philly fans opinion but I wanted to throw in my two cents. Reid is supposed to be a qb guy and at this point with a qb that is injured 3 of the last 5 years and just cant seem to be able to get over the playoff hump i would rather just be done with him and try and find the qb that can help lead this team to a championship before I die.

Donavan is a classy guy and a great role model but there is a difference between guys like Dan Marino, Donavan McNabb and even Peyton Manning from guys like Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw, and Tom Brady. While Superbowls have been won with not much help from a quarterback the best teams have always been lead by great quarterbacks and when it comes down to it the reason Garcia is liked so much right now is his heart and his show ability to comeback when all hope is lost (I am referring to a comeback win against the giants in which Garcia lead the 49ers to the second biggest comeback in NFL history). Garcia has had his problems with the law as well and in general he seems like a more human quarterback because he has not let success get to his head. In closing all I have to say is that Garcia I a much better backup then Mike McMahon was and having Feely back only adds to the depth. This season every one of our qbs has played and all have played much better than Koy Detmer or McMahon played last year at all. So while we in Philly are in familiar territory with McNabb going down we have had much better success in his absence this time around. O yea and GO BIRDS!!!!

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

where are all you haters at?

hiding, that's where. you'll come out of the woodwork if and when the birds get eliminated.

and what about all the cowboy fans?

you guys scared of the seahawks? go buy a dog to keep you safe.  :rofl:
that's what the cowboys are anyway, a bunch of dogs.

Real quote from an Eagles fan:

"If they lose to the Giants this week I will be so emotionally ravaged that I went ahead and bet $56 on the Giants to win straight up. Got +250 on that play to pay out $140, helping to ease the anticipated depression."

How bout them 76er's?? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

great loss last night!! i got my eyes on oden.

but nice try at changing the subject. this is an "eagles" thread after all.

i know all dallas fans are scared today. hopefully you have a dog to help you thru the day. cowboy fans are all the same...very fair-weathered.

my money is on the cowboys to win today. but obviously cowboy fans don't feel the same way. that must be awful...your team is playing an bad seahawks team and you have no confidence in Homo and the boys to get it done.

GO BIRDS!   

how bout dem cowboys?!?!

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Homo rules!!!

maybe he should spend less time hugging girls before games and practice catching the ball a little.  :rofl:

that was classic. i can't wait to see it replayed about 88 more times during the next 12 hours.

Romo is gonna have some explaining to do.

Regarding the Eagles.....they are on a huge upswing and I dont think Eli can hold it together for tomorrow due to past evidence.

So far, the Eagles are looking rock solid.  Eli's not going to be able to pull this out, with Barber hurting and Shockey off the field...fingers crossed.

I feel that Romo has no explaining to do. He made a mental mistake that cost them a field goal. If the defense would have performed better, they would never have been down in the first place. Also remember the cowboys still had the seahawks pinned deep with 3 time outs left and let alexander run for 20 yards and seal the win. Oh and can't forget Romo the homo was a huge part of them even being in the playoffs. He provided a spark that got them there. Its a team loss, its easy to blame it on one guy but in the end if the team as a whole would have performed better they would have never been in that situation. Romo will get over it, i'm anxious too see how he performs next year.

Eli is still young, its only his 3rd year. I think he's overrated and overly criticized due to the name Manning, I still think he'll be good.

And wow, everyone thought the Eagles were done when #5 went down but damn did him going down give that whole team a big kick in the ass. Jeff Garcia has played well. Everyone has stepped up. Its gonna be a tough week against the Saints. But than again it doesn't matter if they go back to the superbowl because if they do the Patriots will just beat their ass again.? :smoking:

eagles played very poorly.

luckily we were playing the giants cause any other playoff team would have defeated us. the giants are an awful team, and will be for many years.

the chargers raped NY.

Romosexuals all over North Texas are throwing themselves off buildings, bridges, and cliffs.  Hopefully Parcells will be one to join them.

OK, anyways, everyone (or almost everyone) knows I'm a Browns fan.  So who do I cheer for now?

I'd cheer for the Eagles, but Garcia managed to embarrass the Browns organization off the field while he was here, as if the team wasn't embarrassing enough just looking at what was on the field. For that matter, before this season, his only win after leaving Cleveland came AGAINST the Browns.

Can't cheer for San Diego because Schottenheimer will just end up choking again, just like he did while coaching the Browns and Chiefs. So it'll be kinda like cheering for Cleveland.

Pats, yeah right.  I can't cheer for Belichick.

Ravens, you must be kidding.

Can't cheer for Indy because they're the reason the Ravens exist.

Chicago has already won too much with the 1985 Bears, White Sox, and Bulls, so screw them.

And New Orleans' O-line is led by an underachieving, oft-injured former Brown who has moved on from the team, stayed healthy, and won with a former loser. That doesn't work for me.

So that leaves me with Seattle. In other words, where do I go after the Saints trounce them?

This thread ends this weekend.  The Eagles are going to lose badly this weekend to the Saints.  Sorry.  :(

This weekend's winners:  (you heard 'em here first.)

Saints -5
Bears -8 will win but not cover
Chargers -4 will win and cover
Colts +3 will be the lone upset winner of the weekend.

Use these picks and make a bundle...for entertainment purposes only.   :hihi:

Chicago vs Seattle

This is likely going to be the blowout this coming weekend. The Bears have had difficulties at home in the playoffs since the good old days of Mcmahon, Payton, and the Fridge, I seriously dont see them losing this game. Seattle is highly overrated. If that division wasn't so terrible, they would have never made the playoffs. Bears win big.

Baltimore vs Indianapolis

Baltimore has to just run the ball down Indy's throat, and it should be an easy victory. Colts cant stop the run, and when you're running, it keeps Manning off the field, and he gets easily frustrated while standing on the sideline for huge chunks of clock at a time. Running the clock out in each quarter has always been a key factor in defeating the Colts. Only way the Colts can win this is if they score a few touchdowns in the first quarter, which would force the Ravens to abandon the running game. Ravens will win, although it will probably be a low scoring game.

New England vs San Diego

This could turn into a bloodbath. I am really looking forward to this one. Chargers having home field doesnt mean much, since Brady is the best clutch player in the league. Also, when you factor in Schottenheimer's career long history of choking in the playoffs, I think NE will win this. No matter who wins though, they will be crippled going into the next round.

New Orleans vs Philadelphia

This game has the biggest chance of an upset. No one thought Philly would even be in the playoffs, and its easy to take them lightly. NO is not playoff experienced at all, and that may play a factor in this. I'm gonna predict a NO win, although it will be close, and I will not be surprised if Philly wins this.

Jameslofton, with the spread taken into account, I think we disagree on all 4 games!  That's why the NFL kicks ass.  I like the Bears to win, but not to cover, and I'll tell you why.  In the beginning of the season I predicted Bears-Colts in the Super Bowl.  The Bears have gone from a dominant defense to an above average defense due to injuries, and the Colts have gone from an average defense to horrible against the run...but...Indy stuffed LJ last weekend pretty well.  I am totally not afraid of Jamal Lewis.  The only thing that I fear could limit the Colts is nature.  Rain and/or snow won't do it...but wind could be their downfall.  Since all I see is warmth and rain...beware...McNair is one hard Freeney sack away from the sideline...enter Kyle "spaz" Boller.   :hihi:

Enjoy the games!   :beer:

baltimore -4.
philly +5.
chicago -8.5.
NE +5.

my lock of the week is baltimore -4. actually, it's my lock of the year! every year people jump on the peyton bandwagon ("this is the year"). he's a choke artist. this is the easiest money i'll ever make in my life.

i like philly to win, or at least cover.

i don't feel too strongly about the sunday games.

in reality anyone could advance....even the seahawks :nervous: depends which Rex Grossman shows up :confused:

Im not a colts fan to say the least, I hate the colts. But Peyton Manning is one of the best QB's in the Leauge and to call any team facing his offense a lock, is not a smart move. Baltimore may win but with his talent and the talent around him I would never count out the Colts. I hope they win so New England can face them in the playoffs again after we take out the chargers on Sunday!! :smoking:

i'm exaggerating/joking a little. but come on, peyton chokes EVERY YEAR. he didn't even play well last week. the ravens are gonna eat him up.

and for the record, not that 4 points is a ton, but i'd bet the money line IF i was a gambler.  :hihi:

Not to brag...okay, to brag!  The Colts are up by 6 points at half-time.  Earlier in the thread I said go with the Colts +3 1/2.  A 9 1/2 point lead looks pretty good right now.   ;D

To re-iterate the picks:  Colts +3 1/2, Saints -5, Seahawks +8 , Chargers -4, and you'll buy momma that new pair of shoes!   8)

EAGLES LOSE! EAGLES LOSE!
SAINTS WIN! SAINTS WIN!
BYE BYE BIRDS.

  :rant:DAMN IT ANYWAY. I felt the eagles would win it when we were 21-13 up. And the one false start we have all night comes late on and basically fecks us up as the pass was complete.The saints did a good job of stopping the eagles running game.  AND oh ya Well done to New Orleans :'(

As I am joking/ribbing a little as well. All in good fun.? :hihi:
 
Well The Colts won, so your lock wasn't so right was it??? I may have been wrong on one thing, as were you, and thats that Manning would win or lose the game, apparently thats not the case as the defense stepped up yet again and well the Colts won. Do I need to say more?? Well only that your lucky your not a gambler otherwise your "lock" would have been a loss. Though as I said before it doesn't matter cuz the Pats will take them out after we take out the chargers tomorrow!? :hihi: :smoking:

WOW Andy Reid is horrible.

First off, down 27-21, 3rd and 1 from the 3 yard line, Run the ball with Westbrook two straight if u have to, he will get 1 yard or he shouldnt be in the league. Reid calls for that horrible swing pass, They kick that FG and are down 3.


Then why in the hell do u punt with under 2 minutes to go, 2 timeouts and a defense that cannot stop New Orleans? Ignorant decision by Andy Reid.

I hate Philly anyway though, so im glad to see them out.

Peyton Manning is such a choker in big games. The Indy D is ironically 2-0 in the playoffs, they are refusing to let Mannnig choke it away even though he is trying his best to do so.

Good points D.  I thought the decision to punt was crazy.  Deuce McAlister looked like Jim Brown running on the Eagles all day long, and they called Deuce out...well, Deuce delivered.  It was a fun game.  I hesitate to call it a great game because honestly, alot of the game featured piss-poor tackling and several drops by Westbrook, overpursuits by Saints defensive ends, etc.

So far I'm 2 for 2 with straight-up winners, and the Eagles actually covered, so I'm 1-1 against the spread.  Not bad.  I'm glad I don't gamble.  Okay, honestly, I have $1 riding on the Bolts-Pats...I have the Bolts without giving any points.   :beer: 

I won't be rooting for any team in particular, just for good games.  Although, if the Bears and Colts make it to the big dance, my pre-season Super Bowl pick would happen!   ;)

And the Eagles choke again.  : ok:

<--Cowboys fan. Allowed to say it.  ;D

I think your a little Hard on Andy. A guy that's gotten his teams to 4 NFC championships and a Superbowl and got his entire team to rally after losing their star quarterback. He's a good coach.

I think in hindsight its easy to say Andy Reids decisicion to punt with 2 time outs left is easy to criticize. In that type of situation even though his defense may have not been playing the best, he had faith his defense and his players on a defense that has done nothing but stepped up the last 6 weeks when their under pressure. I think it was a good decision to punt there. 4th and 15 is a long way to go, they had the first down if it wasn't a false start on a 4th and 10. If their defense would have done what they have done the last 6 weeks, stepped up at the end of the game, everyone would be saying what a great decision to punt there. All Andy did was show faith in his players. Here's a stat for you: In the ENTIRE NFL teams were 1-19 on 4th and 15 this year.


Though I thought the punt was smart, I agree with that.


Give credit where credit's do, Baltimore's defense played great.? :smoking:

^

Explain the last few years then and the 4 years against Florida before that?


Tee Martin won a National Title and Peyton didnt cause he couldnt beat FLorida.

After awhile u have to examine that and realize that there has to be something wrong with Manning's psyche.

just as i said, everyone hides until they have something to brag about. so typical of cowboy fans.

yes, i was wrong on the ravens game. and it cost me. luckily the eagles at least hooked me up with a cover.

but manning is in pure january form. he's just lucky his D and K are bailing him out this time.

and the eagles did not "choke". they lost to a good team on the road. they were 5 point underdogs and it was a great game. the saints moved the ball a little bit better today.

losing our best OL to injury hurt big time. 

Calling him a choker is way too easy. Give credit to a team like Baltimore, who did have a great defensive game plan for the colts. Everyone says Peyton didnt do this, or Peyton has done this. Why is it when the Colts lose or don't play well its always Peyton choked, or Peyton lost them the game. But when they win its wow the Colts played great, what a great way to win. Alot of teams were having trouble over the years beating Spurrier's Gators, not just manning. I do agree that Manning hasn't shown he can play his best football in big games, and yes may "choke under the pressure". But too say the reason Baltimore stopped their offense is because Manning choked is the wrong thing to do. The Patriots beat the colts in AFC Championship and Divisional Playoff games because we were hands down the better team. They took one hell of a defensive game plan in and exploited Manning and the entire colts offense. Not only because he "choked under the pressure." :smoking:

Your argument works for most Quarterbacks in the NFL but Peyton Manning is gonna be a top 5 all time NFL QB when he retires, so he d oesnt get the free pass that? a lot of QBs get.

Just check the numbers in big games he loses.

If he went? 22-30? 300 yards 3 tds and 1 pick and they lose, that isnt his fault

but check out his numbers in games they lose.

Manning has 1TD and 5 Picks so far in this postseason....... That is on Rex Grossman's level not a top 5 all time QB.

Even in Games this year when the D played horrible, The COlts still were not scoring. So yeah the D was horrible but Peyton wasnt putting any points on the board either.

Ya its Manning that controls how teams play against him. The Patriots, Steelers, Jets, Miami, and Tennessee had nothing to do with any of his playoff losses. I forget if Manning "shows up" and does what he's supose to do it doesn't matter if the other teams there. I guess these teams didn't beat the colts, Manning just choked and they all won because Manning can't beat the pressure.

Specificlly watch the two games agains New England and the game against Pittsburg last year and you'll see a defensive formula for beating Manning that all teams now try to exploit but few are able too. When you say a team only loses because this player keeps choking it takes away from what the the teams against said player did to win. Manning is one of the best qb's in the leauge. No question. Does he fail to play great football under pressure, does he "choke"??? You could say that. But thats not the only reason these Colts get beat year in and year out.  :smoking:

Check all those picks he throws in crit ical situations against NE...........

True if Nick Harper cuts to the sideline last year, Indy are in the Super Bowl but Manning if I recall, didnt play overwhelmingly great in that game either.

He has a HUGE cont ract that limits the talent around him Plus he gets hurt cause Tom Brady wins with less..

I can't argue the last part of that last sentence being a patriots fan! :hihi:

Thats the Colts GM fault for not letting Manning take the pay cut he wanted and asked to take to allow for more salary cap room.

Manning didn't play well last year against the Steelers and hasn't played well against NE in the playoffs either. He has played great against some teams like the Cheifs 2 years ago and Denver a couple years ago as well. I chalk his loses to a little of the "Choke factor" but I put alot more on the fact that Belichick and his great coaching staff found a "way" to disrupt Manning. I think in a way Manning's problem and his greatness are the same, he's given too much control of the offense at the line of scrimmage and NE exploited that twice in play-off games by confusing Manning (and many other times in the regular season, though Manning and Tom Moore seem to be making good adjustments to New England's tactics). The same thing Pittsburg did last year. And San Diego during the regular season last year. Some scoff that there is a "blueprint" to beat Peyton Manning and the Colts offense. But I don't. I think there is a blue-print and its become more evident this year than years past. I feel Tom Moore and Peyton will work on that, and have been making strides to improve the "weaknesses" of that offense and I also feel for any team anywhere its tough to play Peyton Manning as he is one of the best.? :smoking:

First off, down 27-21, 3rd and 1 from the 3 yard line, Run the ball with Westbrook two straight if u have to, he will get 1 yard or he shouldnt be in the league. Reid calls for that horrible swing pass, They kick that FG and are down 3.

Someone typed this.  Wasn't that the swing pass that Westbrook dropped???  That was a sure touchdown if that's the play I'm remembering correctly.  You can hardly criticize Reid for that.  But 3rd and 1 and rushing Westbrook twice?  In case you haven't been watching the birds all season, Westbrook did not have a good year converting 3rd and shorts, trust me.  Here in Delaware we get all the Philly games. 

Also, I wasn't paying attention closely.  4th and 15, unfortunately he had to punt.  I forgot there was a false start penalty. 

I think Reid gets criticized far too much.  He's a good coach, in fact well above average.  He proved it with the t eam he had this season.

On the Manning front, look for the Colts to win big over the Patsies this time.  Brady is a goddamn magician though.

I went 2-2 against the spread, and 3-1 with just winners...all in all that should be an education for folks out there considering gambling.  Nobody would have won except for the bookies.   ;)

I guess this kind of turned into the play-off all nfl talk thread.? :hihi:

How bout my pats??!! Beat what people besides myself call the best team in the NFL and still can't get no respect. People already saying they gonna get killed by the colts? WTF mate, WTF?

I'm kinda pissed at LT for saying New England has no class for mocking Merriman's celebration. I mean what the fuck, its ok for him celebrate with "his" dance when he sacks a quaterback. But when he does almost absolutely nothing in a game, held to no sacks and the Chargers lose its not ok to mock "his" dance. Come on man thats just plain stupid. If your gonna say its ok for him to rub it in, but not ok for another team to do it to him thats just hipocracy. If you don't want people to mock the dance, than don't do it in the first place.

Perdictions: Patriots 21 Colts 10. Saints 24 Bears 28.

Superbowl Pats vs. Bears. Bout damn time we get revenge for the ass kicking we took 22 years ago!? :smoking:

no, the swing pass was to tapeh. and it was a ridiculously dumb call. it LOST 3 yards.

AND you're wrong about westbrook not picking up short yardage. did you see him dive into the end zone on his second TD? that's almost unstoppable.

reid obviously forgot that the eagles converted a 4th and 26 a few years ago to keep a drive alive when they were down in a playoff game. this game was filled with big play after big play. the eagles needed one more and reid didn't even give the team a chance.

Ya Andy Reid did give his team a chance and gave his defense the oppurtunity to make a big play. He had faith in his defense to step up at the right time and come up with a big stop. That 4th and 26 was a fluke play and if you don't belive that than your just plain stupid. Reality is the Eagles picked up the first down on 4th and 10 but it didn't stand because of the false start. I belive there was just under 2 minutes left and the Eagles had two timeouts left. Even if your defense isn't makin plays the entire game, you must have faith in your players. It was not an impossible task to ask that defense to make another big play at the end of the game and just stop the saints from gaining 10 yards. It was however very unlikley that the Eagles were gonna pick up the first down twice in a row on 4th down.?Everybody second guesses and thats fine but nobody would be complaining if the Eagle's defense just made one stop. :smoking:

all damn close games this weekend...they year ended up being pretty positive for you Eagles fans....after McNabb went down who woulda thought they woulda made 2nd round.

and my pats pulled out a nail biter....all i can say is WOW :o

next week Colts/Pats game will be a classic :beer: I think the bears may be in trouble, they got shit lucky against Seattle

reid pretty much admitted he made a mistake.

what did the D do in that game that would give anyone confidence that they could stop the run???

he went for it on 4th and 10!! and it worked - they picked up 15. so reid obviously didn't have too much faith in his D before that play!!

reid is a good coach, not great. he routinely makes alot of gameday mistakes.

Reid is a very good coach who always takes responsibility for the loss.  Did he call out Westbrook, who while he had some dazzling plays, dropped at least 3 passes? (1 a sure touchdown)

I'm telling you now it's easy to Monday morning quarterback.  But let's face it, Jeff Garcia is an over-the-hill journeyman quarterback who can only play well in one offensive system.  Philly should be happy as hell they got what they did out of this season.  McNabb's twice the quarterback Garcia is and the Eagles will be fine when Donovan's healthy. 

Also, anyone here who calls the play to run Westbrook on 3rd and 1 has not watched the Eagles play this year.  I'd love to see Westbrook's stats over the year on 3rd and short, I guarantee they are much lower than the league average.  Once the line in front of him makes contact he folds like a cheap tent.  Westbrook thrives on making defenders miss and he is particularly nasty when the offense spreads it out.   

I apologize for mixing up tapeh's play with westbrook's drop...mistakes happen.  But let's face it, each team's defense needs major improvement.  The Bears will roll and the Colts will exorcise their demons.   ;) 

it is incredible what Brady is doing with that pretty much "no-name" offense. i mean besides cory dillon who they didnt even use that much last game, they have no one. no big superstar receivers or anything. Brady is fucking incredible.

i think belchick has manning pretty much figured out but i think it will still be a fun game to watch as it usually is.

Brady is 12-1 in 13 playoff games now, the guy simply never loses his cool no matter what. i think this is the year of the Patriots. i think the superbowl will be Patriots/Saints and the Pats will win by a touchdown.

you mixed up the plays because who in their right mind would throw to thomas tapeh on one of the most critical plays of the season.  :hihi:

i don't have time to research the birds success on 3rd and 1, but remember, we have buckhalter as well and he has one of the highest rates of "positive plays" in the league (plays that go 3-6 yards).

the eagles abandoned the run. garcia dropped back to pass 34 times, and we ran the ball 16 times. 68%!!! and it was a close game. andy forgot what got us there.

Hey Sandman,


  Not a bad last few weeks of the year. I don't post here much anymore, but wanted to come back to this thread when all was said & done. My superstitious nature didn't want to jinx anything while they were hot.

 Overall, kudos to Garcia for finishing up 6-2, agains some good teams. Each game we had only about a 50/50 shot of winning. The Saints game was tough to swallow. I don't diss Andy for passing too much, because it seemed to be working. N.O. was bad against the pass (bad safeties, LB's & corners). Our defense was bad against the run.. Really it came down to who had the ball last, since both defenses had their weaknesses. Andy did mess up that 2nd & 1 & 3rd & 1 (Throw INTO the end zone on 2nd down, run or QB sneak on 3rd down). Also the 4th & 15, I could go either way on, but considering N/O was bad against the pass, and we made ALOT of 3rd & 10's I think he should have gone for it.

I think our season came down to us not stopping the run. For that I blame Jerome McDougal, Mike Patterson & Broderick Bunkley (Our last 3 first round picks, ALL defensive linemen who rarely played). I hope Bunkley works out (I heard he was in Reid's doghouse for holding out into training camp, if that's true, I blame Reid for his lack of time for holding grudges that hurt the team).

In the off season, I'd like to see the Birds draft a Safety, LB, then TE or Fullback. I'd like to see Buck & Stallworth re-signed, and an extension for LJ. Offer Garcia decent cash, but not a ton.. If he wants alot of $$, let him go to Oakland or Minnesota.

It was a good season Sandman, bad time to live in Philly (sportswise), but the Phillies start up in a few weeks. And the NFL draft is only about 3 months away, that's my New Year's  ;D


My SB prediction: Saints vs. Colts

I won't predict who'll win but wouldn't it be a great story if the Saints went all the way & did it!  ;)

hey pasnow,

great post!  : ok:

you're totally right about our D-line. major weakness. draft hurt us like you said, plus howard was a disappointment. 

the drought in philly continues. 94 straight major sports seasons with no championships. but who's counting?

i say pats over the saints in the super bowl.

Pasnow, we've had our disagreements in The Jungle before, but this we can agree on...Colts-Saints inthe Super Bowl.   :beer:

btw, curse the individual who insinuated my Vikings would try to get Jeff Garcia.  God no!  I'd rather sit through an entire season of Tarvaris Jackson at qb leading the team to a 3-13 year than have Garcia at the helm.  I like Jeff as a person.  I think he got lucky at the end of this season.  (yes, I know Childress came from the Eagles' system, but please no.  :( )

Read in the paper today that andy Reid's kids  are in trouble--his 21 year old for  pointing  a gun at another motorist, and his 23 year old for a car accident which followed shortly after  his use of heroin (which he admitted). Geez, Reid could not discipline TO and now his kids. And I thought he was  strict. He bans McNabb  from a press conference, but clearly has not control  over  his children. Makes you wonder.

sometimes you gotta wonder if the teams become more important than the families :-\ (tony dungy's kid last year :'( how could you go back to coaching so soon after something like that :-\ )

From ESPN today:

NORRISTOWN, Pa. -- The 21-year-old son of Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid was charged Tuesday with drug and weapon offenses stemming from an incident in which he is accused of pointing a gun at another motorist.

Britt Reid was arraigned on nine counts including making terroristic threats, possession of a controlled substance and a felony charge of carrying a firearm without a license. Reid did not speak to reporters as he left court with his attorney after posting bail.

Reid got into an argument with another motorist Jan. 30, pointing a handgun at the man and laughing before driving off, prosecutors said. The other driver managed to get the license plate number of Reid's black SUV and police traced it back to Reid's parents.

The other motorist described the driver with the gun as "a white kid trying to act like a gangster."

An officer spoke by phone with Britt Reid's mother, Tammy, who told them her son was driving the SUV while his own vehicle was undergoing repairs. Britt Reid's parents were on vacation at the time.

Armed with a search warrant, police later that day recovered a shotgun, ammunition and containers with white residue from the vehicle Reid had been driving, as well as a handgun from his room at the home he shares with his parents in the Philadelphia suburb of Villanova. That gun matched the description of the weapon given to police by the other driver, authorities said.

Reid was also charged with one count each of simple assault, making terroristic threats possession of an instrument of crime and making false reports to authorities.

First Assistant District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman said Reid gave conflicting statements to officers from two different police departments, but in both cases said he only pulled out a flashlight during the confrontation with the other motorist and was not carrying a gun.

Several hours after the alleged confrontation, Reid was at the scene of an unrelated accident involving his brother, Garrett, Ferman said. He told an officer from a nearby township that he had been involved in an earlier altercation in which a man pulled a gun on him and he responded by pulling out a large flashlight, she said.

West Conshohocken police then took Reid from the scene for questioning and he changed his story, saying instead that the other driver only appeared to be looking for a gun, according to Ferman.

Britt Reid was also charged with three counts of drug possession after cocaine, Oxycodone and marijuana were found in his vehicle, authorities said; he also faces one count of possession of drug paraphernalia. His preliminary hearing on all the charges was set for Feb. 16.

The accident involving Garrett Reid, who according to police admitted he had used heroin earlier in the day, remains under investigation. A search of Garrett Reid's vehicle turned up three Adderal capsules and 19 unidentified pills, according to police records. Ferman declined to comment on the status of that investigation.