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how was axl ripped when he was in his 20's and early 30s...
and know not really able to get ripped again...
did he work out back then...or just ripped cause of age and running around a lot

maybe he worked out... if he lost a little more weight now he'd look a lot better
(http://www.killtoknow.org/05/19c.jpg)

Axl dieted during the UYI days and quit smoking and alcohol...he started working out with a trainer too...

The problem is when you get older it's almost impossible to keep that type of weight off, it's very rare, and Axl's the type of guy who seems to have his vices in terms of food and drink so no matter how much he exercises he will likely never reach the shape he was in back in '91.

He looks pretty ripped there.

Are you serious?

i think i saw axl smoking during uyi days and i bet he was boozing from time to time as well

Well he claimed to have stopped smoking then, I think he occasionally smoked through filters or something...on the Metallica tour special they interview him and I think he was smoking through a filter...and he quit drinking heavily anyway...

(http://i1.tinypic.com/nbsruw.jpg)

he mustve smoked a lot of dank during the dark days and got the munchies etc....

'95 - '99 is when he put on most of his weight. You can tell he was beefed up in his mug shot from 1999. In 2004 I think he began losing more weight, they said he started kickboxing at his home.

In the UYI days he smoked ciggarettes through filters. I think he quit smoking ciggarettes and drinking sometime after the UYI tour. Cause they filmed the Estranged video after the tour and throughout the documentary there are times when he is smoking a ciggarette. I think he quit around the time they recorded Sympathy for the Devil. His voice isnt as raspy. But on the Trunk interview he said he started drinking until recently and before that he hadnt drank a lot for about 10 years or something like that.


About the weight, I dont think the weight is fat. I just think its from lifting weights. His chest is a lot buffer than it used to be. And his stomach is a pretty ripped too. If he weighed a little less it would be more defined.

when was axl ever "ripped"? ?lol. ?he has never been ripped, and he's certainly not going to be now at 44...

Do you not see his abs popping out?

i see a gut

I feel like I'm seeing something else.

I see stern abs and not a gut. Besides, what gut has 6 defined pieces to it?

what the hell does smoking through filters mean. If you smoke, you smoke, it's not going to help you lose or gain weight either way. Now if you quit smoking you're probably gong to put on about 15 pounds because your metabolism slows down and you want to chow.

No, because I'm looking through a giant shadow.

There's a reason Axl's tummy was photoshopped out of that press photo.

Someone posted a picture of Axl during the tour with his shirt unbuttoned - he has a bit of a gut.

You really don't know anything about health, do you?

Yes, smoking clogs your arteries, makes you gain weight, and also impedes your energy, meaning you lose less weight. People who smoke are more likely to be obese.

Smoking through filters lessens your chances of getting health issues including cancer...it FILTERS out a lot of the bad stuff...

I just don't see it:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl33.jpg)

^^^"I see a gut," ?dude, I can't wait to see you at 44. ?Take a quick peek back to '02. ?I guarantee you Axl's dropped a good 15 pounds. ?He looks 100 times better than he did 4 or 5 years ago. ?That's the truth. ?Go watch Diddy lip-sync dancin' all around with his 6-pack. ?I'll stick with GNR. ? :P

looks like hes getting back in shape..

It doesnt really matter...

I have a picture that will make you all say that Axl is soo skinny and in shape.. but i also have a picture of him looking pretty chubby (which the mods removed twice ;D) anyway, it doesnt really matter that much, hes looking pretty damn good, maybe not up to your standards or likke back in 1988 but he's 44 years old, and most 44 year old men dont have 6 packs.

The reason Axl usually keeps his shirt buttoned at the bottom is because he has love handles, he's not as overweight as he was in '02 but he isn't defined.

The reason the shadow picture looks more defined is just that - because of shadows. Shadowing brings out anything in pictures - that's why a lot of times they photograph celebs in shadow environments to bring out definition in their bodies even when they're not very defined. You can see the extra padding around his ribs. He's slightly overweight, you can see it in his neck area and on his arms, also his legs.

But I think this is getting gay now so I'm going to stop there.

This is Axl in 2002 without an XXXXXXXXXL football jersey on. How the hell has he lost 15 pounds from this right here?:

(http://gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011229photo03.jpg)

Axl in '03:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl2003.jpg)

The lost 'weight' you people talk about was lost between January and December of 2001. He has kept it off since then. He wasn't fat in the 2002 Tour. It's the jerseys that made him look like King Kong. Hell, those fuckin' XXXXXXXXXXL jerseys would make anyone look like that. I think it's bullshit when people say he lost weight since the '02 Tour. He was already like that.

 ??? I don't understand what you guys are talking about?!? He looks fantastic! I agree with most people that it was theose jerseys that made him look heavier then he really was. It's not 1991. We have to move on sometime...

(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3572/axlroseinsweden06yo5.jpg)

He looks alot better than 2001 ;D ;D
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5676/ririiipicaxl28bigsk0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

though the hair and bandanna are kickass

I know....I don't get it either...

this is HOB right?
(http://gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011229photo03.jpg)

and after HOB.. RIR3... he must have ate a lot after that damnshow..
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5676/ririiipicaxl28bigsk0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The first one is from one of the shows from The Joint, which was 11 months after Rock in Rio III : ok:

No frozen inferno, it's the other way around. The pic I posted is from December of 2001/January of 2002. The pic EFISH posted is from January of 2001 (RIR3).

The pic that I posted is from the New Year's Eve Las Vegas 2001/2002 Hard Rock Cafe shows, which proves my point that Axl lost the 'extra' weight years ago and not recently.

I hope this doesnt get removed like last time, because so what if a picture makes someone look fat, this isnt a dictatorship, but if its deleted then i understand.. anyway here it is.. proof that one picture doesnt say it all, look at the huge difference between these 2 pics...

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5849/axlfatorskinnyxi3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

both from the same concert by the way

Are you guys seriously talking about this again!?!?!?!

Get a fucking life. All of you. Who gives a shit.

woah, i never would've thought.

It's just fuckin' tiring to hear the 'Axl get back into shape' argument when he already is in shape. It's frustrating...

The reason you can see his abs on the left and he looks bigger on the right are because he's not defined. When he's gasping for air on the left he's breathing in causing his stomach to outline his abdomen, whereas on the other photo he is exhaling causing his stomach to push outwards.

From a health standpoint he would be considered "slightly overweight." Not physically fit and not obese. In between. Just a bit over average.

So basically he is inbetween those 2 pictures. honestly though it doesnt really matter, if he was 250 pounds id still go n see him perform

Yeah, exactly.

Like I said before, it isn't a big deal to me either, as long as he's making good music I couldn't care less.

But some people say he's "fat" and they're wrong...other people say he's not overweight and they're wrong too...he could drop about 20 pounds to be considered physically fit.

Axl has never been fat or out of shape. ?It's funny, a lot of people thought he was fat in 2002, just cause of the baggy/wide jerseys. ?Anyone who wears a huge wide jersey like that is going to appear fat. ?People will say anything...

Being an avid Elvis fan (and getting shit for it alot), I feel the same way.

Why do you get shit for being an Elvis fan?

Elvis is legend.

Because Elvis ate too many cookies ;D

No, I think he'd need to gain a good 15-20 pounds to be considered overweight by normal standards.

He's 5'10 according to his mugshots, and he weighed 130 when he was arrested in 1992.

Let's assume he's 10 pounds heavier now than he was then, and currently weighs 140 pounds.

http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/av.htm

By calculating his Body Mass Index with that information, in addition to specifying that he is a 44-year old male, we get the following result:


In other words, 97% of males Axl's age that are the same height weigh more than him.

So no, he's not overweight.

In order for the BMI to say that Axl is overwight, he would have to weigh 175 pounds. According to the BMI calculator, a healthy weight for Axl is 144 pounds.

Quote from EFISH? I never said that ::) :hihi:

^^^
Fixed it dude. :hihi:

O?ver?weight (vr-wt
adj.

Weighing more than is normal, necessary, or allowed, especially having more body weight than is considered normal or healthy for one's age or build.

I'm sorry dude, but that is fuckin' bullshit. Overweight? Are you kidding me?:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl121.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl32.jpg)

You people are nuts. ::)

There's no point is continuing with this discussion....

You may need glasses and some sort of IQ test ( I suggest the peg test at the Cracker Barrel for you.)

He wasn't overweight in 02. I saw him in LV and the dude had a six pack.

CLOWN SHOES!!!!!!!!

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/818/clownshoeslx7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

axl is ripped but for his age and weight its nearly impossible to get a 6 pack.  some people are just like that, i myself am ripped but because im bigger i would have to literally starve myself to a dangerously low weight if i wanted mine to show up alot  :hihi:

"Dude," do you have any background whatsoever in health?

Then stop bossing people around.

Axl is overweight. NOT obese. Overweight. Big difference.

There is build-up around the neck, arms, legs, and abdomen. He could shed twenty pounds. He isn't fat, but he isn't toned and defined, either, especially around his abs, which is indeed why he keeps the lower buttons connected.

It happens with age. Deal with it.

Just because someone is a little "soft", that doesn't mean they're fat or overweight. ?Axl's abs look a little soft, but lovehandles do not an overweight person make. ?It's all relative. ?Axl standing next to Jude Law will look a little heavy. ?Axl next to Kevin James looks damn svelte. ?
And he definitely doesn't look out of shape. ?He wouldn't be able to perform the way he does if he was out of shape.
He's probably in the right range for his height.  Also, keep in mind, when he was stronger, he was pretty wirey. Maybe he was underweight then.

You are a buffoon in need of an eye exam.

If they guy was really overweight I'd be the first to agree he was, but he is clearly not. Certainly NOT by American standards either!

Anyway, a thread about Axl's weight is pretty lame in my opinion. You can't just enjoy his music? Get a life............and an eye exam.

Heed your own advice.

This is what I wrote earlier:


So you're feeding me my own medicine. I already said what you said before you said it.

I can recommend a good eye doctor to you, mate.  : ok:

It's called becoming a MAN!

I think I remember reading something back during the UYI tours that Axl was travelling with an expensive maching that would simulate the effects of a full workout session in something like 4 minutes...Does anyone else remember anything about this???

Yeah, but those machines are really not the same as doing a full workout. I don't know if it's true, I haven't heard that story before. But those gimmick machines are the same as the "abdominizers," they really don't work the way they claim they do.

you guys are making too much out of this

I don't think he ever was ripped.. when he was younger he was skinnier making his abs and general body look more defined and in shape.. but I don't think it was because he killed himself working out.. and now he is just older so you can't expect him to be as skinny as he was 20 years ago.. but he is not overweight, he's not that much defined that's all but who cares about that, all that matters is if he's in shape to perform and he is cuz he wouldn't be able to do what he did this summer if he wasn't

If it's not a big deal then why are you on a message board trying to convince everybody that Axl is fat?

Do you not know the definition of overweight? You know, the one I posted. Did you also choose to ignore DunkinDave's post on the subject? Oh, also, on my health background, I did spend my entire summer learning the foundations of fitness at school so I think I'd know what the term 'overweight' is. "The term overweight is generally used to indicate that a human has more body fat than is typical or required for the normal functioning of the body" (wikipedia). As Dunkin' Dave has assured, using the latest numbers Axl is in better shape than 97% of all men his height and weight thus invalidating your 'overweight' argument.

There is no godamn fat build up around his arms:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl126.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl50.jpg)

Neck:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl66.jpg)

Or legs:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl130.jpg)

It's all in your head.

I said Axl is not fat.

Try again.

Yes, I do.


No, I did not.


Ah, I see. We've got an expert on our hands.

If you cannot see the extra mass in those pictures you posted, then perhaps you should spend the next summer becoming more objective.  : ok:

I never said Axl is fat. He isn't. But he has extra weight on him, and that was just what I was trying to say. He's not fat, he's slightly overweight; he has some build-up in various areas, it happens with age; your get flabbier. He's not fat, he's just undefined.

Are you seriously saying Axl's build is a mess? Haha, just look at that last picture I posted. Oh yeah, what a mess. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You are only seeing your own version of the truth.

Hah, look at all this flabby mess!:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/emtraveler/Axl33.jpg)

It's so flabby....it doesn't flab! That's just too flabby! :o

This is just beyond ridiculous. :rofl: Hah, believe what you want.

Axl can't catch a break. He comes out looking better than he has since the early 90's and some of you still aren't happy. Overweight? Who are you trying to kid? Axl looks fanatastic and at a good weight/shape.

No, I'm not saying that. Nice jump to conclusion.


What are you talking about? I don't have a "version of the truth." I said Axl is undefined and has some extra weight on him. I already said he's not fat, he's only slightly overweight. If you stop trying to put words into my mouth perhaps you will understand I was never implying he was "a mess" to begin with. I have said, and still say, Axl has looked fine since 2001, and continues to look better. People are so ultra-defensive about Axl sometimes that someone can say one thing and they take it to extremes.

He's not fat. He looks fine. I've said it from the beginning. End of story.

man I just don't see it :no:

aren't you one of those weight freaks that advise Nicole Richie and so on right? cuz well, comparing it to Nicole, everyone would have extra mass in their bodies :hihi:

and even if he had some extra mass as you put it.. I don't think for one bit it affects his health so why we should bother about it? let him be less defined if he will, who cares? he's enough age to to get lazy about it, he's not going to look perfectly fit forever

Russian, I thought you said "if you cannot see the extra mess (instead of mass) in those pictures you posted..". I misread that, sorry. Although, my argument still applies. Also, it's not an ultra-defensive thing because it's an 'Axl' thing. For all I care these could be pictures of a man named 'Joe Bill' from Chicago, Illinois, and I'd still put up the same argument. It's the frustration of someone calling a person overweight when the person clearly isn't that fuels the argument. Also, my "You are seriously only seeing your own version of the truth" quote is just literary technique. The general concensus here is that Axl doesn't have that flab you speak of around his arms, legs, neck, etc...But in your version of the 'truth' he does. That's where I was trying to get at.

I just don't see what you're talkin' about. It's like you're trying to tell me that the ghost of Marilyn Monroe is with Axl in every picture. Like dodger girl said, "I just don't see it".

If Axl sees this he will laugh his head off.


Or have a panic attack.  :nervous:

axl is not fat and is in very good health for his age, and hes lookin really sharp these days.  lets just close this stupid post cuz if my friends ever find out i go to this site and see a post like this they will think your a bunch of weirdos.

For all of you on here commenting on Axl being fat, how bout you guys post pictures of yourselves so we can all criticize your appearance.

Music sucks today, because it's all about image. 

Besides, where the fuck do some of you get off criticizing his appearance, seeing how he's busted more nuts in pussy, than all of you combined jacking off.

hahaha! i gotta say dude , that is a signature worthy line right there!! good one!

Someone can use it if they want.  Its just how I feel.

He is axl fuckin rose not some god damn pretty boy EMO Wanna be pussy frontman.


Who gives a fuck if he is or isnt fat. I dont think he is but I don't sit and stare at the guy and lust over his 6 pack.

Where do you mother fuckers come from who start these kind of threads? This site is about discussing the band or individual members in sensible mature issues or debates! The amount of threads about axls hair, weight (which is a crock of shit, if I had a build like his at 44 i would be pretty fucking impressed), teeth, surgery etc are fucking pathetic. Do you people just sit at your computers all night because you have nothing better to do with your lives and start another thread about how Axl looks? If so then I feel quite sorry for you! Go and live your life. Mike

Are you ever tired of the same uselless discussions?
Are you aver happy if you have nothing Axl related to overanalyze? ::)

The guy looks fucking well and is fucking hot. Are you blind or what? Axl is not fat!!!

I bet half of you won?t look as good as Axl when you reach your forties.

He?s my idol and even if he was a walking skeleton or as fat as a cow he would still be my idol. The talent of the artist cannot be measured by his weight.

Move on dudes!

This started off as a decent topic (sort of), where u all showed pics showing 2 sides of axl, now ur just all arguin amongst urselves over who knows more about BMI n Fitness!! who cares!! get over it  ::)