Here Today... Gone To Hell!

He seemed really shy yesterday wasn't he? There's a big difference between "Axl the Rockstar" when he is onstage (especially in the old days where he used to be very aggressive onstage like he was possessed and gave 100%) and "Axl the man" in real life. I saw a documentary on Louis De Funes (famous french comedian) where he was described as extravagant in his job (comedian) and extremely shy when he returns to real life. They said that's how lots of genius are. that's their trademark. They almost put their life in game when they are performing/playing/beeing artist. On the one hand, Axl can dominate a stadium crowd with the palm of his hand in front of all the TV in the world, and on the other hand, one to one, he seems really shy in front of one guy and one camera. incredible! :P

Definately. Freddie Mercury and Michael Jackson are/were examples of that... real geniouses - super cofident on stage, but shy in public. Quite extrodinary!

No, I think he's just very, very lazy. : ok:

Johnny Carson was very much like that as well

Whatever it is that makes Axl tick, you wouldn't want to change anything.  : ok:

He just seemed a bit uncomfortable to me.  I'm sure it was a considerable change of pace presenting rather than performing, not to mention *not* having a band behind you.  All in all, he handled himself quite well, I thought...

I notice the shyness as well.  It's not a bad thing.

Axl did fine at the VMA's - I like how he screamed - classic Axl.

He acts like a person who has done something really, really naughty and not yet been caught.

Yeah, not release Chinese Democracy yet :hihi:

I don't know.

It was something he'd never really done before, so he's definitely not used to it. He probably got a bit nervous before.

He's used to singing in front of crowds, not talking on TV.




/jarmo

that's a good one :hihi:

he himself has said that he's basically very shy.

I noticed that he was little shy myself. But he did a great job.? : ok:

Shyness to a certain degree I would say.  He has said, "Do you know where the fuck you are!??!" countless times throughout his life.  But when he was set to present, he just kept it simple and did what he was supposed to do.  Nothing more, nothing less.  He was a class act, he didn't steal the show or anything. 

yes, some people around him have said he is a bit shy and you could tell that yesterday..look at his eyes, lips and the way he speaks and move his hands. ?I say a little of shyness and nervousness. but despite of that he spoke very nice, very confident. ?;D

he's such a special man, those ?characteristics of ?his personality make him even more interesting. ?:love:. awww I wanna hug him LOL.

I'd say he's one hell of alot more down to earth and what not then say the early 90s. Anyone else get that impression?

I think the grin he had on his face after "Do you know where the fuck you are!!!" was like a child's cheeky grin lol

he did seem pretty happy and excited somewhat...Look at the sparkle in his eyes ?

Bless him..

I think he is shy when he isn't in his element. It seems that he was unsure how the "people" at the VMA's would recieve him. I thought it was cool that it was a bit of him, (the  screaming part) and the new and more refined him. (the pulled together and calm introduction). I think it was short and sweet and was perfect!

Am I the only one who thinks Axl looked really unhappy and forced to do this yesterday. Watch the 2002 "catastrophe" and you'll see a much younger looking Axl (by at least 10 years), a much happier looking Axl, a not-shy-at-all looking Axl, and alot more CONFIDENT looking Axl........ironic
If the VMAs can be trusted as a sign of what's to come, I am getting nervous. I hope he was just having a bad day yesterday and that's the reason for his grumpiness and indifference.

is axl shy?

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He wasn't grumpy at all.  I don't know how you get the idea that he was better in 2002.  Especially a catastrophic 2002.  I just don't see the logic in what you said.  :-\

His perfomace in 2002 was indeed close to catastrophic. However, he looked much happier and younger and alot more confident then.
He looked really forced last night, really uncomfortable.

I think he felt stupid after that because he said wow not many people know what that means

I don't see it.  Axl was the one who said 2002 was forced, maybe he does the opposite of what he feels?  Then surely yesterday was a good sign!

Slash is also notoriously very shy. Dave Kushner said you pretty much have to know him a long time to understand him and have a proper conversation. Izzy was also considered quiet. Interesting, coz they were all party animals, shyness isn't something you'd expect.

I'm a bit like that as well, really shy in some situations, really confident in others, just depends on the circumstances.

If you look at most of the interview footage we have of Axl, he looks shy: at the basketball game; even back when he sang Yesterdays with West Arkeen people said he looks bashful. ?But sit down interviews he looks fine.

Axl seemed to be a little shy, but he sure doesnt on stage. He was so adorable

I'm sure Axl the tough bad ass rockstar really wants to be known as adorable! :hihi:

he was probably thinking about some hot chick he'd be with at a cool party and didn't want to talk to that MTV dumb-ass.

Amen to that.  I'm just glad to have him and his music back...

I think Jarmo made a good point about Axl not use to talking on t.v. He's use to performing. Music rockin' and crowd screaming is probably more comforting and relaxing then the spotlight, quitness, and all eyes on him, waiting for Axl to speak situation. He looked nervous but he looked great.

I noticed that the way he shook John Norris' hand was indicative of shyness. He has a tendency to pull his body away from the handshake and duck his head.  I was very shy growing up and would lower my head or turn it away from a person to whom I introduced myself.

Maybe he's always been shy...but now that he's sober..it shows.

Remember back to when you were a kid and you embarrassed yourself in front of your peers, to then have to return and face a room full of them. Like last night.

Of course, he's a human being.

I think he is a little shy but he is so cute, it makes him look like hes done something wrong and needs a good spanking

Like some of you have said, I don't think he was exactly in his league of people last night, a whole different generation and style of entertainers, not that he has never mingled with them before, but as he said he had previously met the "Killers" the weekend before and they had asked him to present them at the VMA's, he admits that it is not something he is used to doing, so he makes it short and sweet, and I also think that he carried himself well for what he was up against. ?I don't think Axl is shy, or he wouldn't be such an outspoken person, I just don't think he is as social as we all would like him to be. :) :peace:

He's always been shy. If you've read many interviews/profiles of him, or read anything people who were close to him (personal or work wise), Axl is def. two different people. He can be very shy, sweet and sometimes awkward. But he can turn at the drop of a dime...and can be horribly mean, condescending and outright evil. Last night wasn't surprising to me. I guess I figured everybody knew he had two sides to him and how extreme they are.

I don't think he was nec. nervous last night. Probably just how he is in MOST situations, until he gets pissed off. Plus, I think since he's gotten older, he's chilled just a bit. What is interesting though, is that its almost like he's a little boy..with that grin and that sweet tone to his voice. Then he screams and does a rant and you're like WHOA where did that come from!

The shyness is incredibly sweet. But from what I understand, he can be like that one second, you say something wrong to him and BOOM, the dark side comes out of nowhere and he can be quite scary. In some way, I find that appealing..I'm not sure what that means about me though! LOL!

Its just that dynamic that makes him appealing..that lightness and darkness all going on at once. (which is a huge metaphor for him and GnR anyway, but thats for another thread!)

AylaRose

I was bored minutes ago so I started to read my horoscope...LOL. and as I was reading I wanted to know what's axl sign in the chinese horocope, well, he's a Tiger and here's the description, i think it match perfectly  :hihi:



Tigers may not be the king of the jungle, but these striped cats are no softies! Magnetic and self-possessed, Tigers are born leaders. They have an air of authority that prompts others to fall in line, which is exactly how they like it. Although they are magnetically charming and fun to be around, Tigers like to go it alone sometimes too. A Tiger's main interest is in following its ambitions -- and maintaining control.

Tigers are courageous beyond compare and generally come out ahead in battle, be it in the boardroom or the bedroom. Seduction is one area where the Tiger is definitely king! Noble and warm-hearted, Tigers have a natural, raw appeal that's extremely attractive to other Signs. They're not just about attraction, though; ever on the side of right, Tigers will fight the good fight to the bitter end if the cause is worthy. Opponents are wise to fear this feline.

A bit of caution is a good thing around Tigers, since they can pounce without warning. They experience mood swings and often feel things more intensely than others, the latter quality being both good and bad. They can react poorly under stress and are prone to emotional outbursts. This Sign's bristling sensitivity can send friend and foe running for cover.


A lesson that Tigers would be well-served to learn is "moderation in all things." Once these cats can find their center and direct their considerable energies toward worthwhile endeavors (as opposed to racing through life), they will accomplish much.

yah...
as he walked out, even the giant steps he took at the end..I think he was just trying to get comfortable, then..he let out that big scream..and, it was on from there...

but, yah..
I think he is shy to a certin extent..

Sorry, but I find it impossible to see how anyone could think Axl looked better or was more confident at the 2002 VMA's. He was a bit heavier in '02, dressed like an annoying whigger and basically looked like Sam Kinnison crossed with The Predator. Then he turned in probably the worst performance of his life. DISASTER.

The Axl of 2006 is 1000000000 x better. He's dropped some pounds. Looks like a slightly older version of the guy the world remembers from the 1990's. Dresses like a grown up. And just seems to have a mischievious... 'the world has no idea what I'm about to drop on 'em' vibe going.... It's all good.

I agree 100%. Right down to that certain look on his face.

haha,yeah,i actually think that describes him perfectly :yes: :beer: :love:

A. appears to be really happy when talking to people out back or in a situation where others around him are talking and he is not the centre of attention, or being on stage where he has his band behind him. The 2006 VMA situation was different, there was no band, just Rose walking into a place where 1000's of eyes were all on him and it appeared like he had had second thoughts and thought the whole gig was a bad move and went through with it anyway. When he screamed DoYKWTFYAre? and got no reaction that must have been a difficult moment for him. Still, he held it together and got on with it and the pre show interview got some extra CD exposure ?:)


..another thing: Axl is stone cold sober these days (apparently) and back in the day, i think itis safe to say he was out of it on whatever? :hihi:

Will Ferrell is a genius and he is not shy.

I thought he looked a little uncomfortable and shy.... awww bless!  Couldnt you just give him a cuddle!

I thought he loved it, the sparkle in his eye was fun to watch, he was like a kid who is the center of attention and who LOVES it..

Anyways, he was drop dead gorgeous and i am on drool alert.

He is back to being the most beautiful man  :hihi:

Compared to that bimbo Jennifer Lopez, he did awesome at the VMA's.  That J-Lo primadonna could barely string together five lines of coherent english and she was supposedly representing today's "era" of stars.

I'll take Axl any day.

I suppose shyness and being an outcast can help people achieve the focus to be a genius... just look at Jimi Hendrix, the most shy rockstar you could imagine but his stage shows were wild.

VERY true. I just finished reading the new Jimi bio...and he was super shy and super sweet, kind, gentle, man. You would have never guessed that if you just saw him perform. He spoke very quietly in interviews and spoke in a highly intelligent manner. Alot like Axl.

Axl always has reminded me of Jim Morrison too (see the Danny Sugarman book for all kinds of great comparisons). Jim could be incredibly sweet and kind and well...everybody knows what a asshole he could be. Most genius artists (or just genius people in general) are highly intelligent, but crazy as all hell. Shy AND forward. So Axl fits the bill.

I swear he'd make for the greatest conversation ever. I've said it before and I'll say it again...I could probably talk to him for hours.

AylaRose

He's cold sober these days, huh. Where do you get that. He drinks through half his concerts (not that I'm complaining, but just saying). And you think he was sober when he bit the security guard?

I would say he's more humble than shy. That is, when he's not intoxicated, performing, ranting, or snapping.

True...but at least (I don't think) hard drugs....I bet he snorted a ton of coke in those days...among other things.

As for humble...that sure is a NEW thing too...he sure wasn't humble in the old days!

Getting older has served him so well...

AylaRose

I don't think Axl is shy at all. Like a few of you said, he is just not use to be on tv that much.

one word  adorable.

makes you wonder huh.

like the cat that caught the canary....lol

aylarose

 :yes:i bet he's been very naughty.

i would bet he's a bit shy.  and not being used to doing tv stuff, that has to be different. 

i dont think hes shy one bit.  but maybe he felt very awkward being at the BET awards and all.. o i mean the VMA awards

Vanilla Ice is a genious and he's not shy.

Come on, really, Axl isn't shy. He may have other issues, but shy isn't something I would associate with him.

maybe he just doesn't like to talk much

LOL, on a different offtopic note, does any1 have a bunch of pics of Axl at 2002 VMA's, I am looking for a certain one and can't find it. PM me or something. Sorry for the off topic ness.

shy & neurotic for sure....keekee ;)

That reminds me. according to my mum, singing can help a stutter. Singing lessons can help shy and nervous kids to get over the stammers. :D

I even think so when you see him shaking hands ,doing interviews or even when he presented

I don't think he looked shy at all.  The look on his face to me was more sly than shy.  He does have that grin that says, "I did something bad!" :confused:

I think he felt weird presenting

I thought I could find something more relevant to the topic. but anyway at least these are his own words. could be food for thought.

Ditch: Absolutely, I mean it's... With everything that Guns N' Roses has been through over the decades and now you're back, and you got the new line-up uhh... And you yourself Axl I think, have you made a conscious effort over the years to remain out of the public eye or does that just come natural to you? Cause....

Axl: No no, it didn't exactly come natural but, umm. I, I would say that, you know, originally I was shy and then we would fight through it and.... You know, a lot of substance abuse will get you out there in front of those cameras. You know, you get like "hey I can do anything". Axl interview KISW Seattle November 8th 2002  (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=50)

nice work bebe....keekee : ok:

i think the whole presenting thing was odd for him to do.

i am a die hard gnr fan...but he sounded like a dying cat at the vma's

Axl is shy in the same way O.J. Simpson didn't murder two people a few years ago.

No, really, I actually DO think Axl is shy...to an extent...I think he's got low self-esteem and the tough-guy is a fake exterior to prevent further harm - his experiences in childhood justify this theory, too. I think he became a rebel to try to convince himself he didn't give a shit - but true feelings emerged in his music.

He's not shy, he's just socially awkward, perhaps. Not a party animal like most rock stars.

I'm sorry, I thought it was common knowledge that O.J. was guilty. I guess it's my bad for attempting an oft-used comparison for humor.  ::)

Would you prefer I just say "No, Axl Rose is not shy"?

Actually, I'm good with the O.J. story.  I'm simply awestruck by your command of the English language and sentence structure.  This isn't English class of course, but I'm always amused by some people (it's not WHAT you said, it was HOW you said it).

Do you really wish to turn this into a debate regarding grammar? Because I hate to tell you, but when I see "WTF" I feel the exact same way.

But really...go ahead, read all my reviews (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-6769) and let me know if you find any grammatical errors in them; you know, anything "simple" and what not. I eagerly await your analysis, Professor.