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Maybe the release date is, based on Axl's (possible) Freudian slip, Tuesday October 24th?? Axl said the tour will begin around October 24th.? Why that date?? Maybe looking into things too much.? Oh well, the fun continues!!?  What a saga--

---this post is making me feel like a total fanatic---Damn album anticipation is making me lose my mind!  Between this, and the waiting for My Morning Jackets Live DVD (GNR mgt. take note--great idea), I am going crazy!!  I love music!!

what?

For those who havent seen the interview yet, care to elaborate? The transcripts have him saying the tour starts October 24th.

Or that could just be the start of the tour, like he said.  :P
Or it could be the date that they'll deliver the masters to the label.
Or it could be the date of an important back-waxing appointment.

Who knows?

What'dya know, it's on a Tuesday ?;)

Some change must occur to signify the transition from warm up to full on tour

1. perhaps there is a break between the warm up and full tour dates
2. something may be released and change the set list (more new songs)
3. transition from small venues to arenas (again I think they would need some new material out there)
4. album released before or by Oct 24

what interview??!!? i just got back from my girlfriend house!!! someone did a interview with him??? what did he said?? I?m trying to read the other thread but I cant find anything

Then again, simply beginning the promotion for the new album would be an equally likely option. In my opinion.

KV, this 'warm up" tour consists of arenas. All the shows in central cali are arena shows.

You make good points though. Clearly something major is going to happen between now and Oct.24th.

Quite honestly, I think they are still trying to figure out what and the heck their next move is. ?We'll see!! ?

RnT: Check the news section on the main page. Jarmo already transcripted the whole thing. : ok:

Thanks for the new rumor!

Better than a rumor: The salivating prospect that they may try out a few new songs at these warm-up shows.

OK, let's not set ourselves up for another fall like we did with the rumor Axl would perform at the VMAs. He said the tour starts Oct. 24. Nothing more, nothing less.

No offense to killingvector, but his thinking out loud does not qualify as "Better than a rumor"

We just had a 100 page thread that was more anti-clamactic than Return of the King. Don't get your hopes.

I wasn't riffing off KV but the start date of the tour combined with the "this year" release date. At some point the new songs have to be worked into the set and before that they have to be tried out in front of an audience. These warm up shows are the first opportunity for that. Doesn't mean it'll happen, but it's a possibility.   

Ok, thats a good line of thinking, and it is what they did for UYI.

However in the times being what they are, Axl has to know that if any new songs are played before CD drops, they will be all over the internet within hours. It all depends on how many more new songs Axl is willing to let everyone hear for free. :peace:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F26WU0P9

Absolutely.
But I have a feeling that the closer we get to the release, the less guarded they'll be about the live boots.
Besides which, I think they realise that the people who are willing to trawl the net for poor quality bootlegs are the same people who are going to be in line for the album on day one, no matter what.

I'm thinking he said October instead of September by mistake.

The tour *does* start at Hyundai Pavillion on September 23rd - Axl said "on or around the 24th of October".

If he said October by mistake then it makes a whole lot of sense.

If he didn't make a mistake with the month, then I believe there will DEFINITELY be some sort of major thing happening between now and then.  First of all, it seems to make little sense to play half a dozen or so dates in late September, stop for a month, and then return to the road on a specific date that he mentioned.  Secondly, he was adamant (saying it twice from what I recall) that the album is out this year, so that would indicate (to me at least) something in late October or November, because anything in like December would be in danger at any time of being pushed back to January or February, which would contradict him (although he's done this many times  ;D).  Overall, I think this is really the start, he has maintained since April or so that the album is out this year, he has a tour that has two parts to it, and I think we're in for some good news.  Good nite.

For that to happen,  A single would have to be released within the next 2 weeks or so.

they may not release single until right before the release, or not at all.  They may want the anticipation to be overwhelming.  I would say that they have to get this out before Thanksgiving, as that weekend and into December is the biggest shopping season of the year!!

he said it first at the korn tour launch party  on january 13th. "people will hear music this year!"   so that`s more than half a year and it`s still the plan... we never had that before  : ok:

but well....anything could happen i guess :hihi:

i DONT BELIEVE HE MADE A MISTAKE

It sure is strange to START a tour on a Tuesday.......................

Sure is   : ok:

I don't think we're gonna get a single. I think the album is just gonna drop the day the tour starts.

I just cant see having dates in September that are in arenas, and those being warm up dates. Just seems odd to me to have warm up dates in arenas. So I can suscribe to the theory that perhpas it was a freduain slip. It is soon though!

maybe the september dates are for Axl to get a feeling of which kind of venue he wants to perform in.  then the tour kicks off in oct when the album is released.

I have a feeling the opening show to the tour, being October 24th, will be in New York City.

Whether it be the Hammerstein again, or MSG, I just have a feeling Axl is gunna want to launch this tour, hopefully with the album in tow, where he returned to the stage earlier this year: NYC : ok:

why on earth's name is it strange to start a tour a tuesday? really, why?

for the life of me, the shows AFTER the KROQ inland invasion make no sense!  Why they are happening is a real mystery given what we know now, maybe they will make more sense at the time...

Why does the show I'm going to make no sense? :nervous: Do you want the tour to be a couple of warm ups and Inland Invasion? People have been begging for a US tour for years and now that its here, it makes no sense?

People in California didn't get to see any shows on the last tour.  Now that they're about to play several shows in that state, it makes no sense!

 :hihi:


/jarmo

Tuesday's are the the days that record companies typically release albums.

Who knows for sure what will happen, but this is TWICE now that Axl as said that the album will definitely be out this year. I'm willing to bet that the official tour will start on Oct. 24 to promote the album.

hopefully the tour will start on the West Coast....and Phoenix, AZ  ;D

he said that is starts october 24th, but there are some shows before that

Yeah. He said the shows before that are warm ups.

Which means he said October by mistake and meant to say September.

and that`s the reason why a tour start on a tuesday is weird? :hihi:


actually, he said it more than twice.....    at the korn tour launch party, at the trunk interview, now at the vma`s...  i`m not sure wether he mentioned it at the first kroq interview, but i`m pretty sure he did.


no he did not say that.....    or did he really say that?   i can`t recall it anyways...

uhm...no      i don?t think he said october by mistake...

I watched the interview twice...no slip. He clearly says the tour will start around Oct 24th with a few shows before. Best guess is single just prior to Oct 24th and album release around Thanksgiving. Big record like this will hit at the best moment for sales-no doubt about it. They need to set the date soon though so other artists can react to them-as far as scheduling goes.

jarmo, the voice of reason.  :peace:

Being here in San Diego, I'm really curious the turnout for this show. The arena they're to play is the worst. Much better venues here.  Everyone here, and I think I can speak for everyone,  :hihi:  when you mention the Sports Arena they say "that dump"

Huh? I don't get it.

I'm pretty sure he meant what he said. The tour starts in October. The dates before that are warm up shows.

Thats what he said isn't it?

qeustions....I seen some of you saying stuff about a single . Well why ???

why does a single have to come out , before a album does , and when st anger came out , it sat in  WAL mart a week before the relaese date .




( my wife works at one)

I think Oct 24th would be too soon

well, why the gap between the Cali dates and the start of the 'real' tour?

Ah shit man you know the date dont you ?:-X

and you wont tell us ?:rofl:

Good on ya : ok:

Im just happy it will be this year :hihi:

He speaks! And makes things more unsure!  :beer:

Thanks for any info at all though!

Not for me it wouldn't be...Still, I'll be happy if I can have CD under my Xmas tree this year... no complaints here.  :beer:

to early for what , care to elaborate more ?

as long you dont mean Oct 24 2007, I'll relax.  Thanks for all the presales, btw.

There is no set release date yet for CD, but I believe it will be after October 24th. That would be too soon

November sounds like a good month to release Chinese, but in any rate any month is a good month for Chinese. We really do need a release date before the October shows start.

I can't help but think that November 21 is gonna be the magic day.

Without an album it makes no sense, thats what it means..

the first day of christmas shopping is the day after thanksgiving

I think you guys just nailed it, given the information we currently have. KROQ would be the North American equivalent to RIR5; to introduce the band to the stateside audiences. Then, gradually build up the hype for two months until the release, nailing the major shopping season this year. Black Friday is still "fall, late fall".

They'll move a SHIT-TON (yes, thats an actual number) if they release it the same week as Black Friday. People that normally wouldn't buy it will buy the piss out of it for xmas gifts. If it's released that week everywhere such as Best Buy, Wal-Mart & Circuit City will have it featured in their Black Friday ad for some ridiculous price like $6.99 or something.

The label will only be satisfied with a holyfuckton.

Well, you don't have to be an a-hole and correct me, but yes you're right they are targeting a holyfuckton before they view it as a success.  ;D

After pouring a crapton of money and a holyfuckingshitton amount of time into the production, anything less would be a poopypound.


;D

The best date to release CD would be Nov 14.  My rationale.  First week sales take it to number 1 just based on the die hards.  Second week sales include Black Friday and with a good promotion machine in store, radio, tv and internet they'll continue to take huge sales.  Third week and beyond will carryover additonal holiday sales.  They would be missing a big opportunity if they wait until December to release the album as a lot of people's budget for holiday spending runs dry by then.