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Title: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: GUNSNROSES1993 on August 31, 2006, 05:14:14 AM
Who has been the best gnr Drummer and who has been the best gnr Guitaist besides slash


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: avesia on August 31, 2006, 05:18:21 AM
guitarist...Buckethead
drummer...I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but...Adler...although he's a totl mess and he sucks big time   *patiently waiting for the bashing replies*


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: GUNSNROSES1993 on August 31, 2006, 05:20:57 AM
guitarist...Buckethead
drummer...I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but...Adler...although he's a totl mess and he sucks big time   *patiently waiting for the bashing replies*

i think sorum was the best drummer, Duff the best bassist n Buckethead the best guitarist( did he play the chainsaw in some metal concert once)


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: zombux on August 31, 2006, 05:22:50 AM
why besides Slash? Buckethead was clearly the most able guitarist GNR ever had.
why besides Sorum? well he's very good drummer, maybe the best... but Brain is good as well.

about Duff, he's not a good musician, he never was.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: avesia on August 31, 2006, 05:24:02 AM

i think sorum was the best drummer,

you said except for Sorum...I wouldn't have chosen that Adler otherwise...


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: GUNSNROSES1993 on August 31, 2006, 05:24:53 AM
why besides Slash? Buckethead was clearly the most able guitarist GNR ever had.
why besides Sorum? well he's very good drummer, maybe the best... but Brain is good as well.

about Duff, he's not a good musician, he never was.

it was my opinion because i thought that sorum brought the band alot, duff gave a good look to the band, n besides slash because he is a legend and people would say him anyway.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: GUNSNROSES1993 on August 31, 2006, 05:26:06 AM
0k im havent got  the best GNR knowledge im only 13 ok


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: zombux on August 31, 2006, 05:28:00 AM
why besides Slash? Buckethead was clearly the most able guitarist GNR ever had.
why besides Sorum? well he's very good drummer, maybe the best... but Brain is good as well.

about Duff, he's not a good musician, he never was.

it was my opinion because i thought that sorum brought the band alot, duff gave a good look to the band, n besides slash because he is a legend and people would say him anyway.

then this thread is just about your personal view, anyway it's like 10000000000th thread about the same thing ::)


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Jim Bob on August 31, 2006, 05:51:19 AM
Finck Owns Slash

Brain Owns Sorum


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: nesquick on August 31, 2006, 05:58:48 AM
Best Drummer: Steven Adler (in the old days), but now in 2006 Brain.
Best guitarist: Richard Fortus


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: CAFC Nick on August 31, 2006, 05:59:44 AM
Finck Owns Slash

Brain Owns Sorum


 :rofl: Yeh, ok.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: dub05 on August 31, 2006, 06:24:10 AM
Drummer ......Fred Curry :rofl:

Guitarist......Gilby clarke


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: RR Mafia on August 31, 2006, 07:23:18 AM
What makes one great?, their command over the instrument?, or the ability to create great songs with memerable parts?

The only way to find out wether one musician is better than another is to have them go head to head Crossroads style and see which one can out do the other.

Since that is never gonna happen, one can only speculate.

Buckethead would probably wipe the floor with Slash, Fortus would give Slash a run for his money.  But Slash played guitar on Appetite For Destruction, enough said.

From what we've heard of Robyn Fink, he definatley has the ability to write great songs with memerable parts.  He's just as good as Slash only he plays in a different style.  Bucket would destroy both him and Fortus in a battle. 

Fortus would beat Fink in a battle.  Only time will tell if he can write as good as Fink.  We need to hear CD.

Bumble vs Bucket would be close, with Bucket getting the edge.

Bucket could turn out to be the one with the greatest musical prowess and the most memerable creative guitar parts out of any of them.

Oh yeah, Stinson would own Duff.

And Brain would own Sorum and Adler.  BUT Duff, Sorum, and Adler played on some of the best rock recors of all time so........

Get my Drift? : ok: :peace:


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: blueheart on August 31, 2006, 07:26:59 AM
Buckethead

Brain

but my favourites are Fortus & Sorum  :P


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Locomotive98 on August 31, 2006, 08:06:19 AM
Finck Owns Slash

Brain Owns Sorum


You again.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: jameslofton29 on August 31, 2006, 10:27:08 AM
Finck Owns Slash
Cmon Jim. I can understand you liking Finck more than Slash, but how does a man "own" another when he's only playing the parts that the other guy created? Cant you at least wait until the album is out before coming to that conclusion? I just dont see how Finck playing 90% old songs a night and a couple new ones could be considered"owning" by anybody. Sure, Finck does a good job on Better and CD, and shines on The Blues, but I dont see how that can top the ENTIRE discography of the band.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: Mikkamakka on August 31, 2006, 12:14:39 PM
I knew I shouldn't have read this thread. Deafs.  ::)


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: the dirt on August 31, 2006, 01:46:52 PM
For Brain to be GNR's best drummer, new albums will have to be very Primus-like...


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Stonerose on September 01, 2006, 02:55:09 AM
Izzy and steven, who, i think when he was healthy, was ten tmes better than matt for gnr.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Jim Bob on September 01, 2006, 06:20:00 AM
Finck Owns Slash
Cmon Jim. I can understand you liking Finck more than Slash, but how does a man "own" another when he's only playing the parts that the other guy created? Cant you at least wait until the album is out before coming to that conclusion? I just dont see how Finck playing 90% old songs a night and a couple new ones could be considered"owning" by anybody. Sure, Finck does a good job on Better and CD, and shines on The Blues, but I dont see how that can top the ENTIRE discography of the band.

Its just my opinion really.  I think Finck owns Slash in terms of stage presence for one.   I like his tone better.   I like his style better.   I even like the way he plays Slash's original solos better.    The songwriting aspect we can't say for sure, but I have more faith in his songwriting abilities than I do that other guy.  so for me, Finck Owns Slash.  He's perfect for this band.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Jim Bob on September 01, 2006, 06:21:14 AM
Finck Owns Slash

Brain Owns Sorum


You again.
LOLOL i bet i piss you the fuck off with my posts dont I.  :hihi:


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: -Jack- on September 01, 2006, 06:34:26 AM
Buckethead and Adler.

They own


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Locomotive98 on September 02, 2006, 11:17:37 AM
Finck Owns Slash

Brain Owns Sorum


You again.
LOLOL i bet i piss you the fuck off with my posts dont I.? :hihi:

Fucking right you do!


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: estrangedpaul on September 02, 2006, 05:26:58 PM
Izzy is the best so far other than Slash. He wrote so many great songs. But Finck has potential. As of now, anyone who says he's better than Slash is just wrong. Fact, not opinion.

Duff is the best bassist. Of course he isn't as good as a musician. But musicianship isn't everything. He wrote my favourite song of all time, Paradise City, as well as It's So Easy. That's good enough for me. He also has the best stage presence. Stinson's pyjamas don't do anything for me.

Best drummer, I like Sorum.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Jim Bob on September 02, 2006, 07:05:46 PM
Finck Owns Slash

Brain Owns Sorum


You again.
LOLOL i bet i piss you the fuck off with my posts dont I.  :hihi:

Fucking right you do!

i'm sorry  :'( :-* :smoking:


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Stonerose on September 05, 2006, 05:36:35 AM
Reading this thread, i just cant believe that GNR fans can prefer Fink to Slash, i just dont get it. I like the new band, but for me the lead guitarist in Guns N Roses will always be Slash.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: GNVR on September 05, 2006, 07:40:45 AM
about Duff, he's not a good musician, he never was.

Finck Owns Slash

Brain Owns Sorum

Are you guys for real?


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: tomass74 on September 05, 2006, 07:51:56 AM
Izzy

And Steven who is way better than Matt.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: Bridge on September 05, 2006, 11:51:31 AM
Buckethead was clearly the most able guitarist GNR ever had.

Able?  Able to do what?  bore us to death with his technically proficient but completely meandering and forgettable playing?  Sure, he was impressive, shredding a million notes a minute, but five minutes later, you forgot everything you heard.

Slash is superior.  And Steven was the best drummer.  Sorum blew, at least as far as GNR was concerned.  He would've been good for a speed metal band where he could roughouse and slam slam slam all he liked.



Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: Lara on September 05, 2006, 11:56:26 AM
Finck and Adler.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and Sorum
Post by: Shirell on September 05, 2006, 03:58:11 PM
I love Robin Finck as guitarist he is so cool and Brain has real personality so I vote for them


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: jameslofton29 on September 05, 2006, 07:59:35 PM
Able?  Able to do what?  bore us to death with his technically proficient but completely meandering and forgettable playing?  Sure, he was impressive, shredding a million notes a minute, but five minutes later, you forgot everything you heard.

Slash is superior. 
Thats hilarious. You've obviously heard VERY little(if any) of Buckethead's material for you to say such a thing. You just listen to all the cliches and then spew them yourself. Go get a few albums from his vast discography before making such a bold statement as that. I'm sure you wont though. Its much "safer" for you to sit around insulting a musician you know nothing about then it would be for you to open up your closed mind.

Stop reading so many of Nesquick's posts. If he is your guiding light, you will be disappointed on CD release day.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Jim Bob on September 05, 2006, 08:20:14 PM
about Duff, he's not a good musician, he never was.

Finck Owns Slash

Brain Owns Sorum

Are you guys for real?


absolutely.  Why do so many 'gnr fans' give me shit because I prefer someone to their precious overrated Slash?   We all have our opinions, and that is mine.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: jameslofton29 on September 05, 2006, 08:40:45 PM
absolutely.  Why do so many 'gnr fans' give me shit because I prefer someone to their precious overrated Slash?   We all have our opinions, and that is mine.
I think some people "give you shit" because you make alot of bold statements in your posts. Nothing wrong with that, but it will always bring a certain type of reaction. Although I dont prefer Finck over Slash(on the old stuff), I can actually relate to alot of the things you say(shocked? :hihi:). I would rather hear BH, Finck, and Huge/Fortus on CD songs than I would hear all that old stuff. The GNR discography is great, no doubt, but it doesn't interest me anymore. I do not listen to the old albums anymore, and when listening to bootlegs, I only listen to songs from CD. When I go to Arco Arena on Oct. 2nd, I am there for this lineup and the songs they have done. I am not interested in trips down memory lane.

Someone should create a forum specifically for old GNR, so the new vs old bullshit(and all other monotonous topics in the same vein) can be spewed there. People need to either embrace new GNR and Chinese Democracy, or move on.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Jim Bob on September 05, 2006, 09:29:30 PM
People need to either embrace new GNR and Chinese Democracy, or move on.

word  8)  i have no interst in sitting around talking about tired topics that happened 15 years ago and have been discussed to death.  i'm all about the future.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Bridge on September 08, 2006, 10:45:29 PM
Thats hilarious. You've obviously heard VERY little(if any) of Buckethead's material

quite the contrary.? I bought a couple Buckethead albums a few years back due to all the brouhaha about him.? sure, Buckethead is a great player, there isnt any doubt about that.? But so what?? so is every fucking guitar teacher.? The true 'greatest' players are the ones who create incredible, MEMORABLE music that lingers in the mind's ear for all time.? Slash has already accomplished that.? No need to sit here and defend him, his track record speaks for itself.? Any rock n roll who hears the first three seconds of most any GNR songs knows exactly who the band is, and who the guitarist is.? Even after all these years.? His work is timeless

With Buckethead's albums, I listened to them and said "WOW!" right after hearing them.? Because he's a great player.? But then I forgot what I heard probably less than an hour later.? the only thing I remembered was that he was a great player, not the music he recorded.? Just because you're "technically proficient", as Buckethead-philes like to call him, ultimately is irrelevant.? The only thing that matter is IS THE MUSIC GREAT?? IS IT MEMORABLE?? Who cares who technical about the technical prowess of the player.

And as far as Axl's band is concerned, all I have to go on there is what has been presented.? at Axl's concerts, it's Buckethead and Finck both fucking up all of Slash's beautiful solos.? The one exception being "Knockin on Heaven's Door", which was beautiful, but was a different rendition of the song that Slash performed, so they didn't really change his work.

talked about closed minds, YOU go ahead and believe that anybody who doesn't like your precious Buckethead is closed-minded.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: jameslofton29 on September 08, 2006, 11:38:19 PM
I'm not "anti-Slash". I'm not one of the guys that hates old GNR. Buckethead fucking up Slash solos? :nervous: Is that a little comic relief in your post? What BH material have you heard? He has such a vast discography, it would be easy for you to pick a couple of his albums that didnt blow your mind(I dont like all of his stuff either). I can send you an assortment of his best work. :peace:


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on September 09, 2006, 01:24:20 AM
Slash isn't overrated, he just happens to be one of the greatest guitarists over the past 25 years!  Shame on you JB, get your head out of your ass!

I like Finck don't get me wrong, but he isn't a guitar god.  Psh, moving on. 

Stevie Ad and Jeffrey are my guys.  I like Richie F a lot too.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Jim Bob on September 09, 2006, 02:03:15 AM
Slash isn't overrated, he just happens to be one of the greatest guitarists over the past 25 years!  Shame on you JB, get your head out of your ass!

I like Finck don't get me wrong, but he isn't a guitar god.  Psh, moving on. 

Stevie Ad and Jeffrey are my guys.  I like Richie F a lot too.

dude.. the way people keep bringing him into every single topic and how people can't get over the fact that he left 10 years ago makes him overrated.   If I was that upset he was gone I wouldn't be sitting on a GNR board 10 years later whining about it, I'd move the fuck on.


Title: Re: who has been the best gnr drummer and guitarist for GNR besides Slash and So
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on September 09, 2006, 05:48:26 PM
A lot of people have moved on, but we give credit where credit is due.