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Title: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Izzy on August 29, 2006, 09:27:20 AM
So many bands release fantastic albums only to progresively go downhill from there, often reaching some pretty awful lows (Metallica...)

I was racking my brains thinking of bands that reversed the decline - that hit a sustained bad spell but came back (eventually) with something that wasn't just a good listen but genuinely matched their best stuff

A lot of talk over here has been about Mr Bob Dylan doing just this, his latest album is supposed to be a masterpiece while his 80's efforts and offerings even into the 90's are much maligned

Megadeth are my pick, hit a slide (Risk and The World needs a hero fall well below what came before ) but then returned with The System has Failed to match former glories

But other bands that have reversed that decline? Bands that prove money and success doesn't have to spell the end?


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on August 29, 2006, 09:57:58 AM
I know you wont like my choice but another good example is Iron Maiden after Blaze era it wasnt good for the band but now they are back in bussiness, specially with this new album  : ok:


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Danny Top Hat on August 29, 2006, 10:00:10 AM
The Chillis never really lost it, but they came back in good form with their last few albums.

Also Bon Jovi lost it for a while but came back on decent form. ?I still love Bon Jovi even though they're dead cheesy.

Also David Bowie deserves credit for being damn cool even in his old age. ?He never lost it either.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: pasnow on August 29, 2006, 10:03:43 AM
Yeah, the Chili's came out strong, but they never really lost it.. Possibly with the whole Areoplane & rollercoaster phase, but they came back with Californication & never left since.


My vote is for U2. After Achtung Baby they really went away towards the latter half of the 90's. Then came back big time in 2001.  : ok:


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: gnr1967 on August 29, 2006, 01:09:05 PM
Until a few years ago, I would have said that Aerosmith declined for many years and then came back very strong (Pump, Get a Grip).? Although it's a matter of opinion, they appear to be declining again.? ?:-[? (although I didn't mind their blues album)

Interesting thread!? ?:)






Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Kujo on August 29, 2006, 01:20:27 PM
Of course this is all opinion based, but I dont think Aerosmith has released anything that matches their early 70's efforts.

Bob Dylans Time Out of Mind from 1997 was a big return to commercial success, I believe he won the Grammy for album of the year.

I'll say Neil Young & Crazy Horse. The  80's were a nightmare for practically any effort that involved Neil. Ragged Glory in 1990 was a bit of a re-awakening leading to the brilliant Sleeps With Angels in 1994.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Danny Top Hat on August 29, 2006, 02:52:52 PM
Has anyone heard the Stones' latest album?  I liked that a lot. : ok:


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: RichardNixon on August 29, 2006, 05:18:04 PM
Paul McCartney. His solo output is a mixed bag, but the last several have been very good.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: mrlee on August 30, 2006, 12:39:09 PM
Until a few years ago, I would have said that Aerosmith declined for many years and then came back very strong (Pump, Get a Grip).  Although it's a matter of opinion, they appear to be declining again.   :-[  (although I didn't mind their blues album)

Interesting thread!   :)

agreed. id have to also say a group many wont like but papa roach started off decent, then went lame and now there getting decent again.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Genesis on August 30, 2006, 02:00:55 PM
Audioslave? I though "Out Of Exile" was good...


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Izzy on August 30, 2006, 02:20:50 PM
Audioslave? I though "Out Of Exile" was good...

C'mon - they never had a ''high'' to fall from!


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: mrlee on August 30, 2006, 02:37:25 PM
Audioslave? I though "Out Of Exile" was good...

C'mon - they never had a ''high'' to fall from!

agreed..and the new album. bleeehhh bit crap.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Genesis on August 30, 2006, 02:41:45 PM
Audioslave? I though "Out Of Exile" was good...

C'mon - they never had a ''high'' to fall from!

Well, I guess u're right. I can't think of anything else...  ::)


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Neemo on August 30, 2006, 02:43:57 PM
Pearl Jam's new disk is a great effort compared to the last few IMO


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on August 30, 2006, 02:55:48 PM
One band that comes to my mind, and specially in an underground and underrated way is Helloween their peek was Keeper of the seven keys and the low was Chamelon when they try to be more "progresive" and stuff, but their come back was with Better than raw even though Master of the rings and time of the oath are great albums I think that's when you hear the real Helloween with Andi era  :D


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Gnrfan on August 30, 2006, 03:02:38 PM
I like Oasis latest album as where i hated Standing on the shoulder of giants and didn't think much of HC

So in my mind they had a resurgance.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Grouse on August 30, 2006, 03:11:36 PM
Mr. Dick Purple I'm suprised you haven't mentioned Queen yet, Because imo their quality sucked for a couple of years with albums like:
"Flash Gordon",
"Hot space"(Failed attempt at disco music) ,
"The works"(Only 1 or 2 descent songs),

their "comeback" for me only started with "The miracle and Innuendo" So from 1981 up untill 1989 most of the music was pretty much below Queen standard


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Jim on August 30, 2006, 03:53:56 PM
Has anyone heard the Stones' latest album?  I liked that a lot. : ok:

No. Nobody in the world.

Apart from me!, that is.

Seriously though. That's what came to my mind.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Izzy on August 30, 2006, 03:59:56 PM
Mr. Dick Purple I'm suprised you haven't mentioned Queen yet, Because imo their quality sucked for a couple of years with albums like:
"Flash Gordon",
"Hot space"(Failed attempt at disco music) ,
"The works"(Only 1 or 2 descent songs),

their "comeback" for me only started with "The miracle and Innuendo" So from 1981 up untill 1989 most of the music was pretty much below Queen standard

Excellent choice, and one i had totally forgotten about - truly dire in the early 80's, Queen somehow found inspiration again and 'The Miracle' and 'innuendo' are my favourite Queen offerings - for sheer album consistency i think they actually reached their peak with Innuendo


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Walk on August 30, 2006, 11:22:47 PM
Nah, Queen burned out after Queen II.  ;)


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on August 31, 2006, 12:19:52 PM
Mr. Dick Purple I'm suprised you haven't mentioned Queen yet, Because imo their quality sucked for a couple of years with albums like:
"Flash Gordon",
"Hot space"(Failed attempt at disco music) ,
"The works"(Only 1 or 2 descent songs),

their "comeback" for me only started with "The miracle and Innuendo" So from 1981 up untill 1989 most of the music was pretty much below Queen standard

Excellent choice, and one i had totally forgotten about - truly dire in the early 80's, Queen somehow found inspiration again and 'The Miracle' and 'innuendo' are my favourite Queen offerings - for sheer album consistency i think they actually reached their peak with Innuendo

I could give credit about Flash Gordon and Hot Space (even though has great songs) Life is real, action, calling all girls, body language, anyway The works is an attemp to focus more into the pop culture at that time, for instance I want to break free, hammer to fall, is this the world we created, It's a hard life (personal fave) and then it comes A kind of magic with hits like who wants to live forever, a kind of magic, one vision, princes of the universe.
But I didnt post them cause I dont think they vanish, after The works and A kind of magic they still were huge and after the miracle and Innuendo they were reaching that level of inspiration that all bands seek, who knows what would've happend if Freddie would still be alive.
Next monday Freddie would have turned 60 :'(


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Izzy on August 31, 2006, 03:17:33 PM
Mr. Dick Purple I'm suprised you haven't mentioned Queen yet, Because imo their quality sucked for a couple of years with albums like:
"Flash Gordon",
"Hot space"(Failed attempt at disco music) ,
"The works"(Only 1 or 2 descent songs),

their "comeback" for me only started with "The miracle and Innuendo" So from 1981 up untill 1989 most of the music was pretty much below Queen standard

Excellent choice, and one i had totally forgotten about - truly dire in the early 80's, Queen somehow found inspiration again and 'The Miracle' and 'innuendo' are my favourite Queen offerings - for sheer album consistency i think they actually reached their peak with Innuendo

I could give credit about Flash Gordon and Hot Space (even though has great songs) Life is real, action, calling all girls, body language, anyway The works is an attemp to focus more into the pop culture at that time, for instance I want to break free, hammer to fall, is this the world we created, It's a hard life (personal fave) and then it comes A kind of magic with hits like who wants to live forever, a kind of magic, one vision, princes of the universe.
But I didnt post them cause I dont think they vanish, after The works and A kind of magic they still were huge and after the miracle and Innuendo they were reaching that level of inspiration that all bands seek, who knows what would've happend if Freddie would still be alive.
Next monday Freddie would have turned 60 :'(

I've always wondered what Queen would have been like in the 90's - would it have been a sad tale of daft experimentation and decline, or a glorious new chapter? They just seemed to be getting better towards then end...

...maybe thats the best way it could have ended - they went out on a high, thats a great leacy, far better than slowly fading into irrelevance and mediocrity


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Grouse on August 31, 2006, 05:31:03 PM

I've always wondered what Queen would have been like in the 90's - would it have been a sad tale of daft experimentation and decline, or a glorious new chapter? They just seemed to be getting better towards then end...

...maybe thats the best way it could have ended - they went out on a high, thats a great leacy, far better than slowly fading into irrelevance and mediocrity

I've always wondered the same thing, but I think that those last albums were so great because of freddie's illness I mean songs like; the show must go on, Was it all worth it, Mother love, These are the days of our lives etc...all those songs wouldn't have been written if Freddie wasn't dying.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: user FKA webmoster on September 01, 2006, 02:11:48 AM
Cheap Trick, has anyone said them yet? Their new album is extremely good. A definite improvement and return to amazing music since their last few releases


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Megaguns on September 01, 2006, 08:13:11 AM
Megadeth: They went all mainstream with Cryptic Writings and Risk (97-2000). They didnt suck too badly but they definately re claimed theyre place among the metal gods with TSHF(2004).

The world needs a hero(2001) wasnt too bad either...


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 01, 2006, 10:14:20 AM
I've always wondered what Queen would have been like in the 90's - would it have been a sad tale of daft experimentation and decline, or a glorious new chapter? They just seemed to be getting better towards then end...

...maybe thats the best way it could have ended - they went out on a high, thats a great leacy, far better than slowly fading into irrelevance and mediocrity

Couldn't agree more, rather finish this way than a possibly mediocrity of albums

I would also dare to say Def Leppard but are they good these days?  :nervous:


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: mornintrain on September 01, 2006, 11:03:40 AM
Aerosmith?  Honkin' on Bobo was great, returned them to their bluesy roots.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: liquidvirus on September 04, 2006, 05:35:56 PM
Until a few years ago, I would have said that Aerosmith declined for many years and then came back very strong (Pump, Get a Grip).  Although it's a matter of opinion, they appear to be declining again.   :-[  (although I didn't mind their blues album)

Interesting thread!   :)

agreed. id have to also say a group many wont like but papa roach started off decent, then went lame and now there getting decent again.

Agreed bout P roach, listen to the new album, got some killer stuff on there....roses on my grave, alive, world around you, crash. All great songs.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Eazy E on September 04, 2006, 08:43:33 PM
I am not really a big fan... but I think Mariah Carey has been able to come out with strong material after years in the music industry.  She was just ripped apart in the media for her movie and her mental breakdown... but she bounced back with one of her most popular albums.  It's an extremely rare thing for an artist to do.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Kujo on September 04, 2006, 09:34:47 PM
Aerosmith?? Honkin' on Bobo was great, returned them to their bluesy roots.

Thats because all of the songs but 1 were covers. It was their best CD since Toys in the Attic for me, though.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Gordi on September 05, 2006, 06:21:16 AM
Prince
Oasis
New Order
Pearl Jam
Morrissey

They've all come back well in recent years.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Danny Top Hat on September 05, 2006, 08:09:19 AM
Speaking of Morrissey...


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Queen of Everything on September 05, 2006, 08:45:05 AM
I 100% think u2!  and, sadly, greenday?  they have become alot more popular over the last two years if you havent noticed.  :hihi:

and Van Halen didnt do it at the time, but they did it in the past.  With 1984.  Van Halen I -- some not so amazing -- 1984!

:D


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Izzy on September 05, 2006, 09:19:41 AM
Prince
Oasis
New Order
Pearl Jam
Morrissey

They've all come back well in recent years.

U miss the point of the thread - its about returning to past highs, not slightly improving over utter rubbish

Prince is not anywhere close to his Purple Rain esque highs - face it

Oasis - ha, if you can find anyone that claims DBTT is as good as DM then...well.....

Pearl Jam - honestly if you believe their latest offering rivals their best stuff you hold their best stuff in rather limited regard


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Neemo on September 05, 2006, 10:58:50 AM
Pearl Jam - honestly if you believe their latest offering rivals their best stuff you hold their best stuff in rather limited regard

nah not their best but I'd say it'd fit nice back in around the vitalogy and vs stuff :beer:


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Yesterday on September 05, 2006, 12:09:57 PM
U2
They ended the 80's as the biggest band, and at that point they were basically photographed in black and white and were somewhat way to serious.
The 90's came and from their first single off of Achtung Baby, "the Fly" alot of people thought this is U2.  I liked U2 in the 80's but this album really got me into the band.  It was a dramatic change for them.  The started to use tecnhology, and also made fun of them selves.  Zooropa was good and I like Pop, but alot of fans by then were like enough already.  They went back to basics for .."All that you can't leave behind" and scaled down their tour.  I missed Zoo TV but saw Pop and thought that was great, but when they did the Elevation tour it was unbelievable.  They relased "Atomic Bomb" and I think they (bono) especially began to let the fans in more lyrically to his thoughts, etc.  They have always been great lyrically, but their last album was I think the most personal.  Anyway they are huge again (after All that you can't leave behind) and can sell out tours quickly.  They do well album sales wise but really haven't had a Top 10 hit in the US since the 90's.  They are darlings of the critics and at times a little preachy to some, but I think when all is said and done with u2 they will rank up there with the beatles and the stones.  Not bad for 4 guys from Dublin who really didn't know how to play their instruments 30 years ago. 




Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Shirell on September 05, 2006, 05:01:21 PM
Iron Maiden are cruisin at the moment!


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Gordi on September 06, 2006, 07:07:03 AM
U miss the point of the thread - its about returning to past highs, not slightly improving over utter rubbish

Prince is not anywhere close to his Purple Rain esque highs - face it

Oasis - ha, if you can find anyone that claims DBTT is as good as DM then...well.....

Pearl Jam - honestly if you believe their latest offering rivals their best stuff you hold their best stuff in rather limited regard

Fair go man,
all of those groups/artists are currently being critically and commercially recognised as creating works that equal if not surpass their 'glory days'.
It's the truth, read the press check out sales. You might not like it, but hey that's the way it is. And I'm not the only one who thinks that way.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: comaknight on September 06, 2006, 06:59:37 PM
The New York Dolls (even though it's only 2 original members left)


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: J? on September 06, 2006, 08:50:32 PM
In 1988 the Beach Boys had a hit with Kokomo haha.

However I hate that song soooooo much and the Beach Boys past 1981 are garbage, no Dennis Wilson no real Beach Boys to me.


Title: Re: Bands that have recaptured past form?
Post by: Bono on September 07, 2006, 05:00:24 AM
U2
They ended the 80's as the biggest band, and at that point they were basically photographed in black and white and were somewhat way to serious.
The 90's came and from their first single off of Achtung Baby, "the Fly" alot of people thought this is U2.? I liked U2 in the 80's but this album really got me into the band.? It was a dramatic change for them.? The started to use tecnhology, and also made fun of them selves.? Zooropa was good and I like Pop, but alot of fans by then were like enough already.? They went back to basics for .."All that you can't leave behind" and scaled down their tour.? I missed Zoo TV but saw Pop and thought that was great, but when they did the Elevation tour it was unbelievable.? They relased "Atomic Bomb" and I think they (bono) especially began to let the fans in more lyrically to his thoughts, etc.? They have always been great lyrically, but their last album was I think the most personal.? Anyway they are huge again (after All that you can't leave behind) and can sell out tours quickly.? They do well album sales wise but really haven't had a Top 10 hit in the US since the 90's.? They are darlings of the critics and at times a little preachy to some, but I think when all is said and done with u2 they will rank up there with the beatles and the stones.? Not bad for 4 guys from Dublin who really didn't know how to play their instruments 30 years ago.?

Oh MY GOD!!! that was the greatest post I've ever read. :rofl: : ok: Seriously though everything you say is true except Vertigo and Beautiful Day both went to number one. the funny part is though that the people who bitched about them being "too out there" in the late 90's and wanting them to go back to their roots are the same people bitching now that they sound too much like U2.? they never really disapeard but by the end of the 90's(their best decade in my opinion) they definately ahd thier doubters.

On a side note the transformation U2 made from the 80's(Joshua Tree/Rattle and Hum) to the 90's(Achtung Baby/Zooropa) was a million timess more gutsy and experimental than Radiohead's venture from The Bends to O.k. Computer which gets such high praise. people tend not to recognize the fact that U2 was the biggest band in the world and yet the had the guts to completely revinvent themselves image wise and music wise when really there was no reason to.

wow. I kinda went off on a rant just there.  I'll blame it all on being so damn surprised to read a post like Yesterday's here on a Guns board.? : ok: Also let it be known that I love Radiohead(own all their albums) just used them as an example.