Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Two new concerts added!!!

http://www.livenation.com/artist/getArtist/artistId/11585

Damn ! It's happening !!! : ok: : ok:

On the road GN'R !!

arco arena holds ?20,000 + people , the sacramento kings of NBA are home to the venue ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


now I am excited !!!

According to the Reno Events Center webpage: "Its flexible 7,000 seat capacity and its location in the liveliest part of the city makes it the place to plan in Reno."

According to AOL cityguides for ARCO Arena, "It has a seating capacity of 17,317 and is known to be one of the loudest venues in the NBA because of a combination of wooden floors and very boisterous fans."?
                                                                           *The figure of 17,317 is listed for NBA Basketball seating

Arco Arena: Maximum Capacity 17,317
Reno Events Center: 7,500*

*This gives me hope for the 5,000 seat venue at the Hard Rock in Hollywood, FL

(http://www.arcoarena.com/images/seatcharts/seatChartKings2.gif)

They need to stick to the 7500-10,000 seat joints. Thanks for the info. At least they are mixing it up. :D

no wayyyyyyyy ...arco arena in the capital of california.coulnd't get any better then that

hopefully we get the full tour schedule soon  : ok:

ARCO Arena
 

 

Reserved 1: $75.00
Reserved 2: $49.50
Reserved 3: $39.50
 

On Sale Sat, 8/26 at 10:00 am PDT

Nice. I like they way they're mixing up the venues. At least the West Coast is finally getting their shows (stop bitching!!!) ?:hihi:

this is so awesome

should this be in the concert forumn,

Do you think we might get an announcement for the tour?  I man this is supposed to be the tour that launches the long awaited Chinese Democracy.  You'd think a tour of this importance would be worthy of an official announcement.   :-\

They played nearly the exact same places and venues in a row like this in 1993 -

04.03.93 - ARCO Arena, Sacramento, CA
04.04.93 - Lawler Events Center, Reno, NV

secondly thinking , i never received a preslae from htgth , for the sf show's, even though i signed up

And what about the other dates? It may indicate what's their next steps...

Come on, Pittsburgh...

Personally, I think Arco is too big unless they are planning on a major publicity storm in between now and the end of September.? I think doing two nights at 1500 to 6000 seat theatres in metro areas,  is a far better U.S. tour strategy for this first go around.? Also, the intimacy of smaller venues will lead to better reviews (hence, the Hammerstein), which will help sell tickets for an arena tour next Spring or Summer.? I can see an arena in Chicago, Seatle or New York, but not Sacramento.? We'll see how this sells!? On the bright side, though, it is nice to see some more concert dates released!!

 :yes: :yes: :yes:

Arco is too big. They averaged 8600 on the last 2002 US TOUR, that is why they should play anything from 2000 to 10,000 seat venues. I doubt there will be any product on the radio or shelves before 9-30 so Arco is a leap. Chicago, Boston, and New York are fine for a full size arena show(basically the sellouts in 2002)...not Seattle!

All good points, other than MSG there were alot of empty seats in some venues in 2002. 2,000 seats might be pushing it for a whole tour but I definitely would enjoy a repeat of the Hammerstein gigs

I can't understand why it seems like no one on this board has any faith in this band.

Its not the band that we have issues with. Its the American public in general that arent aware of anything that isnt spoon fed to them on TRL.

It's called being realistic and not living in a dream world.

Well, no one will know how it will sell until it sells. It's all just speculation, but personally I'd prefer to see them playing only smaller venues, but I'll have faith in their strategy for now. They sold out MSG and Philly and I'm sure one or two other places. Maybe Boston or Pittsburgh? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

It's nice too see they're adding some dates. :)

we'll see what will happen with selling???
But, we couldn't compare 2002 and 2006
2006 have more than 10 reasons to have a better succes than 2002
first reason is "replacing bhead with ron"

It seems like the problem is gonna repeat.  I see U.S. tour dates popping up and still......no word on an album release date.

Axl made a big mistake by touring the U.S. with no album in 2002.  I just don't understand the thinking behind it.  Why does it look like it's going to happen the same way again?

 :nervous:

I wasn't trying to compare 2002 and 2006. Sorry if the sell out question at the end of my statement threw you. It was just in response to someone who said they only sold out MSG in 2002 which I know is not true as I was at Philly and it was sold out. Anyway, we will see what happens when it happens. All else is only speculation from message board fans who really have no idea at all, just preferences and speculation, myself included.

Fuckin' A............

These are all west coast dates, for the love of GOD, come forward with the east coast tour!!! COME BACK TO NYC!!!

It looks as if they maybe playing San Diego on 10/3--another arena PayOne center.

Has nothing to do with faith, it has to do with reality.

The reality is that GNR have been gone for a long time, and to many people are a joke show. Although this is not true, they need to get down to grass roots to get the audience back.

Where did you get the info on San Diego??

yes, Arco may be a tough venue to fill because some (not a lot) of the SF audience may be drawn to the 2 warfield shows (about 5000-6000 tickets for 2 shows?).  Sacramento has grown, but I would see about an 8000-10,000 crowd for that show without a firm album release or a ton of press.  Playing Warfield type venues for a warm-up tour would have been a great idea.  Tool did it and it generated a lot of buzz.   But, who knows, maybe the album release stuff will hit everyone hard in September -- after all, SURELY the album is done, since Axl commented on KROQ  that he just didn't know what to do with his free time   ;)

he should do 1 round of the us tour playing small clubs/theaters and shit and then when the album drops he should promote the band with music videos and stuff then start an arena tour.  :smoking:

I thought the Warfield holds around 1500 per show?

No, I think its "theater style" (i.e., seats on the floor) is 1600 per show.  But it gets boosted to about 2300 (some say 2500) for a general admission concert. 

YES!!!! ?I hope you're right!!! I had 8 tickets in 2002.

I have a feeling they'll have a big opening band to help fill these big arenas. ?They had to have learned from '02. ?

I would expect a press release today, with more dates:  so far Reno, Sacramento, and San Diego  ;)

I would imagine, an official website with hi-def concert footage from Europe would be the promotion for a US tour.  Make stickers, with the website address, concert dates, and logo available at Spencers during GNR month in September.  I am going to start billing Sanctuary for these ideas (joking)!

That's the vibe I am getting.

Minneapolisnewsman:

How do you know there will be a press release today?

Nobody knows.  Just wishful thinking from everyone.   :hihi:

that sure makes sense , but why does this all seem backwards

1. lost of us dates
2.no word of a album drop

It's great too see more dates added to the tour.  Can't wait for them to work their way back east.

The key word in that sentence was "expect."   :yes:

If anyone had their heads screwed on straight at the label and Sanctuary, they would get a phenomenal website put together with: live footage from Europe, the tour dates with links to "buy tickets," and links to t-shirts and paraphanalia.  I would include the link in a press release, and somehow distribute or advertise for it at Spencers.  I am somewhat shocked that they have no capitalized more upon the incredible shows in Europe.  The only thing holding them back, it seems, is the past reputation of GNR.  I think the new-lineup, if promoted with proof (live footage) would blow-up quicker here in the U.S. than they realize.  There seems to be a longing for nut-swinging rock stars in the U.S.   With that said, I would imagine there has to be some sort of strategy to create a buzz nationally before more dates are announced!  Still scratching my head at times with promotion.  It's one thing to oversaturate, but it's quite another to not promote at all.  We'll see what is in store, I think, in the next few day's.

AFD is already out...

LMAO!!!  Greatest Hits, is climbing the charts...so someone must be paying attention!  In all honesty though, if they can make a spectacle of the launch of a new website, it would be the bomb.

woah it looks like this is gonna be a big tour

Reno? Reno is pretty small.  Weird place to play.

Not really, all the big acts play there.

Stop panicking about Arco being too big.  It's the smallest arena of all the NBA arenas, and consider the fact that no one sits BEHIND the stage and to the sides, it drastically reduces the seating capacity to 12,000-13,000.

As Conan would say, "Keep cool my babies!"

There also, are not many big names that play Sacramento regularly.  This is a chance, to catch a city hungry for a large rock show.  Here is an article about that from last year.

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/erichogue/1331588.html

Having any amount of faith in this band is "living in a dream world"? I wasn't aware. Thanks for the update.

Fucking gymnastics sells out at Arco. I think GNR can do it as well. :yes:

Is it me or does this seem just like European tour with the dates coming in sporadically and no announcement????   ::)

It's exactly like Euro.  Oh well as long as he has the same success as he did in Europe I don't mind.

I can't wait until we see the tour shirts, then we might know for sure.

Were there shirts for the Euro tour with dates on the back or something like that?

That's right!

Rolling these dates out, slowly is smart.  It keeps the stories coming in the press.  I think deals are done at many venues.

The shirts at Hammerstein Ballroom had the dates on the back too. They had all 4 sold out dates.

It'll be interesting too see when the band comes back to NY if they'll go for small venues like Hammerstein or go arena like Madison Square Garden.

Since they sold out MSG last time it looks like they'll most likely play there again.

when they play at the arco arena, how many tix do yhou think they ll put on sale, limiited amount, or try to sell out the 20,000 arena?

Arco only seats 15,000 for a concert.   I would imagine they will sell over 10K in tickets prior to the day of the show.  They will come close to selling it out come showtime!

They had a similar thing planned the last time around:

12.28.02 - Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, NV
12.30.02 - ARCO Arena, Sacramento, CA

San Jose might be included next if past dates are anything to go with. Maybe also a date in Pheonix and a couple in Texas.

Wow... It wasn't at all like when I ordered the Paul McCartney tickets, but jeez! I had a few seats in the lower deck at Section 122, and I wanted to see if I could get any in Sections 104-101, so I went back, and I lost my opportunity! Then, in a frantic mad dash, I tried to reclaim my 2 tickets in Section 122, and I got that wonderful little screen telling me "Your wait is 2 Minutes."

So I'm going "shit", and really hoping, and then it came up and let me buy. I don't think Arco will sell out, but we'll see. Paul sold out in like 10 minutes, so I don't anticipate the same here.

Any fans here gonna join me at Arco?

/Kevin

I am pulling great tickets up right now for all the shows.? I just bought tickets for Sac. & San Diego in the Loge areas--like 2nd row!? They may want to reconsider venues, for the next round of shows--IF one can still get virtually any area of seating they choose by mid-week.? ?They need to really think in the long-run here, not the short run!? Build momemtum, don't lose it.? ?:yes:

I got great tix for both Sacramento and San Diego as well and I got them yesterday with no wait time unlike when I got tix back in NYC for the Hammerstein shows.

Ticketmaster didn't bump me off this time.

For one show, I am on the floor and the other show, I am in the Loge area. :peace:

With airfare and hotels...it's gonna be about $746.76 but I plan on making this trip a mini vacation as well. :peace:

I would watch these closely (I may regret this post), but I am pulling up row 2 of Loge level seating everytime.  I don't know how these shows are selling right now.  They should pick-up closer to the concert date.

they just went on sale.. i'm sure a lot more tickets will go when there is more publicity, etc.. like after the inland invasion is done.

I agree Chief--like I said, I may come to regret the post.  With that said, they need to promote this, and promote it soon.  IMHO, the best way to promote an arena tour, is a sell out theatre tour this fall, with at least a single, an hour special live-footage show on either HBO, or available online, and a static release date.  Maybe, this time, they have plans in motion for the next few weeks!!  I can't wait for the shows, but I hope that in addition to myself, 10,000 more people are excited and at Sac and San Diego as well!!  Nothing like a huge crowd and GNR live!!

Just saw, that actually these two shows are starting to fill up!! 

where do you see that?

WAR--were you being sarcastic?

If you were serious, one can always look around on Ticketmaster or LiveNation for tickets. 

Axl will be on MTV on Thursday night. That's promotion isn't it?



/jarmo

I think so (VMA's as promotion)!!   I do think, though, that in the U.S., tickets are going to be a tougher sale right now than in Europe.  I trust the management knows much more about what type of venues to schedule than I do, although, doing smaller shows really seems to fire people up in the US.  In the end, though, regardless of ticket sales, I know the shows are going to rock!  I've seen the band live three times this year, and it's soon going to be six!!! 

How well are these tickets selling, I know they went on sale yesterday, but I ve been checking on ticketmaster you're still able to get tix for some of the shows.  Good or bad sign?

After a fairly slow start (it is California, where they may take their time getting to the local box office), Sacramento and San Diego are beginning to fill up.  Considering each of these arenas seat about 14,000 people, I would say that sales are going pretty good.  Come show time, I would expect near sell outs.  With the larger venues it is very uncommon, barring the U2's and McCartney's of the world, for shows to sell out during the first few weeks of sales.

Where have you been for the last 12 years?