Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Take this with a grain of salt, but I have a few "insider" contacts - one guy very close to a bandmember, another who told me a lot of stuff about the leaks that turned out to be true FAR before anyone else knew (he also had CITR first). Anyway, I got word today that there are rumblings from within that Axl is planning to make a special musical appearance on the VMAs. I know this has been a rumor for weeks now, but with these guys mentioning it I'd personally wager there's some truth to it - at least so far as that it's being considered. Axl is going to present an award, so he's definitely going to be there. My email described it as "round two."

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. And don't call me names or post "I CALL BS" or whatever, I'm not a n00b, I know this kind of thread is usually bashed to death, but as I said, these guys were right in the past, so I have no reason to NOT believe them. I can't give you their names but I can tell you one of them told me the origins behind the initial leak of IRS and how it really got online, which I can verify since he has contact with the band.

Cool. Well, we'll find out for sure in 7 days time anyhow.

How many times do I have to quote this...Read it guys! :hihi:

BTW, Russian, you're acting like me.

I also just wanted to point out to the nay-sayers who keep bringing up the "terrible" performance in '02 as a reason they will never perform again: it was the highest-rated live performance in MTV history. MTV doesn't give two shits about what critics say if a performance is raking in high numbers. In this case MTV would have to be crazy NOT to at least ask Axl to perform with his band since he's going to be there. MTV cares about one thing: MTV! And if an artist has been a proven success to the extremes that GN'R has been in the past, they'd take all this WELL into consideration.

And you can bet your ass Axl would have to be equally stupid to turn them down after the European tour was so succesful, his voice has improved and he's trying to get his name out there again. Have any idea how many young people watch VMAs? Yeah. It totally makes sense for them to do this.

Saying Axl is a presenter may also be a way of quieting down rumors of a VMA performance - "Well, it said he's a presenter, but then why wouldn't they tell us he's performing? He's probably just presenting." Meanwhile this gives them more room to develop this thing and they don't have to fend off rumors that Axl is in the building as they did in '02. (Remember the Pink slip-up?)

another insider...

isnt stinson or fortus doing a show somewhere on 31st ::)



are you willing to leave this forum if it turns out to be a lie?

i see mr instensity is still lurking around teh forums  :hihi: good to know.

I'm not Mr. Intensity.  : ok:

Possibly they have to cancel the shows because they just heard that Axl was going to be at VMA 2006, and what would it be without the band there not looking at Axl???

i know, has he been pming you too?  russian

dizzy

Get some info on the album from your insider...thats ALL i care about.

Huh?  ???

u know damn right wtf im talking about. damn you.. damn you.. curse you... YOu know DAmn right!







jk. :rofl:

That would be sweet. ?I'd have to guess IF they did play they'd close out the show like they did in '02. ?They usually show the best (or most surprising) for last. ?We'll just have to wait and see I guess. ?At least we know Axl is set to present. ?The bigger question is, will Axl take the stage on time to present the award or will he make the crowd wait an hour? ?(Sarcasm).

I think someone posted before that Dizzy DOES have a show with Hookers and Blow scheduled that night, BUT they have played without him before and if GNR was gonna play I'm sure he would be there without hesitation.

I don't even think the bandmembers know much about it at this point.  :hihi:

This guy has very close contact with one of the guitarists, that's about all I can say. But he has shown me proof and I trust him - he told me stuff in the past that turned out to be true. And as a contact of a bandmember he'd have to be insane to lie about stuff involving CD, he'd just get fired. He's always been honest. He doesn't know much of anything about the album.

Well - then I guess we'll see who's right, because what I heard isn't a second-hand story. ?And I heard that he's not performing, just presenting.

Exactly what I meant, Faldor.

i believe you dude...i hope everyone shuts up when it happens. :beer:

Who'd you talk to? Or aren't you allowed to say? Just wondering.

u keep saying that.. wat the hell?...

are you willing to leave this forum if it turns out to be a lie?

I keep saying he's trustworthy? That's because he is.  : ok:

Are you willing to leave this forum if it turns out to be right?

o0ooo0oo lucky, he got YOU there  :hihi: :rofl:

I don't even know what you're saying.  ???

I have from confirmed sources, my head, that monkey's fly out of "brain's" butt on a nightly basis, while axl loves to attempt to shoot them down with a bow and arrow and he will be taking this wonderfull show buisness act they have been perfecting to the VMA's as his joke for the night, thus they will be performing. ?:smoking:

Also it would be cool if the band did actually perform a song after this bit. ?:smoking:
 

i was quoting lucky. and dude.. i really wish u hadnt made this thread.... now im really expecting gnr to perform..
but Damnit they Wont! :(

Uh, why would Axl be there anyway? All of the other presenters are young(No offense) and popular at the moment. Now if Axl will be there at the VMA 2006, why would he be there?

publicity

His performance in 2002 was the highest-rated MTV performance ever. Maybe that's a factor?

Russian, I'm supporting you on this one. SOmtimes I think that you're misunderstanding everyone...

What was the Pink slip up in 2002?

I must've missed that. ?I went to bed just before GNR hit the stage back in '02. ?I heard Jimmy Fallon say stick around for a big surprise and I thought they might ressurect Biggie or something so I threw in the towel. ?I was pissed when I found out what I actually missed. ?Of course I saw it when they replayed the show ALL weekend long, but it wasn't quite the same. ?This time I'll have to glue myself to the TV and stick it out through all the crap.

Russian, my apologies. I was saying that Axl would be there only for Chinese Democracy only. Not to present some awards for "Publicity."

Axl is known for surprises.

Pink on the red carpet at the pre show was pissed, as in drunk, she was asked what she was looking forward to and replied with "i just want to see Axl, is Axl here yet?". That was the slip up!

Dizzy has a show the night of the VMAs, if this is indeed part of some big game plan i cant see why he would have scheduled that date, especially when they have all been together on tour and information would have been easily exchanged between members.

Jonx

One of the highest rated performances and one of the poorest.

Ok, I'm gonna be the first to say it.

Reunion? ::)

Gonna agree with you on this one. Although I thought Madagascar sounded wonderfull.

I don't think they will be playing, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Wow. That would sure suck.

if they do play, i would like them to play chinese democracy

I can't see that happening right now, there are too much nu-gnr stuff going on. ?:-\

As of two hours ago, he's showing up JUST to present. 

She also mentioned seeing Buckethead back stage.

I honestly don't understand alot of the people on this board sometimes.

MTV announces that Axl Rose is presenting an award, not Guns N' Roses is presenting an award. They also make no mention whatsoever of any sort of performance, simply that he is presenting an award. On top of that, a member of GNR has a show scheduled that night in a whole other city.

So immediately the original thread bursts into flames with everything from "THEYRE GONNA PLAY!" to "AXL IS GOIN TO ANNOUNCE THE RELEASE DATE!!". Then a whole other thread is started that says "insiders" say GNR is gonna play that night.

After the VMAs air and it comes and goes with Axl doing only what MTV claimed he was going to do in the first place, all these people on here are going to blame Axl as if he's done something wrong.

SHHHH! You dont want to blow the surprise.

Cool. We shall see.

Well, Tommy is not with SA that night and Dizzy can easily cancel. However, I don't see it because they have no single to play. Playing another medley or classic is just lame. :-\ I do see an interview or guest appearance where Axl sings with someone.

No, Pink didn't mention Axl nor did she see Bucket back stage (as far as I remember). She was being interviewed on the red carpet and the interviewer asked her who she was looking forward to seeing the most and she told him that is was Buckethead. My memory is a little hazy on this but I think that's what happened. Anyway, thanks for the info man whether it turns out to be true or not. I guess we'll find out next Thursday. Regardless it is once again fun to be a GNR fan. Loads of great shows with loads more to come, lots of Axl in public looking happy, a few interviews here and there, a cool new guitarist, and as always, a great fuckin' band. Even if the VMAs is a simple award presention by Axl I'm still looking forward greatly to the next few months and the coming US tour.

but still, I'm kinda sick and tired of inside sources which can be non-existent on occasions...  :crying:

I hope it's true, but I am sceptic, and my brain sais no way... While I want to see it happen, I know it just woN't.

Axl owes it to the fans to announce the release date of cd and perform a new song with new gnr on stage at this year's vma since he has kept the same fans waiting for another vma performance for the last 4 years when he said that ROUND 1 thing which turned out to be what him presenting an award this year? Axl should do more and the fans deserve more than just that on the night of august 31st from axl and new guns n roses at this current vma. thank you.

Round One could have been Axl tellin merck to order the first round of beers..

funny but axl owes the fans more for this years' vma based on the vma he did 4 years ago in 2002. he owes the fans more based on that ROUND 1 in 2002 at vma.

Yeah you keep haning on to that lovely little thought.

Again:

AXL ROSE DOES NOT OWE YOU, ME OR ANYONE ELSE ON EARTH ANYTHING. WE HAVE ALL CHOSEN TO FOLLOW THIS BAND. AXL, NOT ANYONE ELSE ON EARTH FORCED YOU TO.

it should be more than a thought it should be reality because what was the point of axl saying ROUND 1 in 2002 if all he is going to do 4 years later this year is just present an award? Can you say boring? Axl will have done the wrong thing and something wrong something very wrong if that is all he does this year based on the eddie trunk interview promising the cd in the fall, the europe tour, and the leaks "IRS" "Better" and "There Was A Time" There was a time! Axl should fake present and announce the release date while performing on stage with guns n roses guns n f$cking roses. This is what Axl should do because of the past because of the 2002 mtv vma with gnr.

you sound smart with the the caps on.

I agree that a release date won't be announced and I doubt they'll perform, BUT I wouldn't use Dizzy having a show with Hookers and Blow as a reason they wouldn't play. ?H&B is nothing more than a side project for Dizzy as long as Guns is in session. ?Seriously, what band pays the bills more? ?I don't think Dizzy would have a problem telling H&B he couldn't make a gig because he had to play the VMA's, cuz I don't see THEM doing that anytime soon.

Everyone has posted a new topic about every other day since the day after the 2002 VMAs saying Axl or the band was going to show up at the next VMAs to announce something or other. Thats why it gets laughed off continually.

Also, Guns N Roses have not been announced to be on the VMAs, Axl Rose has. There is a difference.

You sound like a cult member.

Axl is a musician. A musician who has promised his fans an album. When you promise FANS that have given you a career to release an album, that means you owe them an album. By your logic George W. Bush doesn't owe us any of the promises he made during the election primaries because WE chose to have him as our leader, and he can do whatever he wants. Of course, Bush isn't the best example when it comes to this since he HASN'T done a lot of things - but why do you think so many people are upset?

If Axl had come out in 1999 and told us "The album will never be out, I'm retiring" - THEN he would owe us nothing.

Stop kidding yourself.

mtv sucks  :rant:

not when axls involved  ;D the man is a genius, son.

"The nominees for Best Rap Act are... [reads list of names] And the winner is... Eminem! Oh, and by the way everybody. ROUND TWO!" [takes on Christ stance with fingers raised in the air, then exits stage]

Yes, that would be lame.

I'm very aware of the incidents, and I knew people wouldn't believe me. That's what this world is messed up of including me. No trust.

What would be LAME is Axl presenting the award to Eminem and nothing happened...

You insults never sound remotley intelligent.

Ellroy, you are right, Pink said she wanted to see Buckethead...not Axl. ;D Bucket was primed to be the next great guitar hero :-[ a little too flaky though. :hihi:

I sound like the cult member??

People have dreamed up reasons like what you listed off are more like the cult guys.

now i have to sit thru 3 hours of crappy awards show watching emo losers and rap posers hoping axl plays..wait theres this thing called a VCR....and the fast forward button..cool

No No! it wasnt an insult, babe :D remotely*

I remember your post in the subject about the guy who saw a poster for the VMAs with Axl on it. To be fair, I never said that I doubted you in anyway as I believe you saw the commercial you told us about. I do remember thinking that the commercial probably included GNR because they were huge on MTV back in the day and their appearance in 2002 was a big draw for the channel. However, it seems that I was wrong in my assumption and that you were right in yours. You must remember that we've been getting rumors for VMA appearances here since 2002 and that most of us are very cynical and skeptical when it comes to this particular rumor (and the superbowl one which I imagine will pop up in the next few months). Please excuse those that called you a liar and other names. As hard as it is out there for a pimp it is even harder for a GNR fan when it comes to being believed about something only they saw or heard regarding the band.

I would respond, but I honestly don't even know what you were trying to say there.

Either way, stop avoiding the matter - you said Axl owes us nothing. When a musician makes a promise to fans that we will hear a new album at some point in time, he's made a promise, and he owes his fans that much. It's common decency, and if you can't comprehend how a promise to a worldwide fanbase would not obligate this person to deliver what he has promised, you are delusional.

Axl would even disagree with you on this one. I can't imagine Axl ever saying "I don't owe you anything" - not after 14 years buddy.

Who's the guitarist your friend has close contact with, Russian?

If Gn'R chooses to play or MTV asks them, whatever , I highly doubt Dizzys scheduled gig for 300 or so fans is going to get in the way.

Axl: "Dizz, you are gonna have to cancel that gig, MTV wants us, and it is awesome FREE promtion for the release of ChiDem"

Dizzy: "Sorry, Axl, but I have a $2,000 guarantee no matter how many people show up, and I get half of the beer money, so I can't do it"

Axl: " I may have no choice other than to promote Pitman to stage right keyboards"

Dizzy: "Ok, I give in!"

Typing errors aside, my point was that Axl Rose doesn't owe anyone anything. The caps were meant to emphasize the point.

You guys seem to be missing the point. Just because an artist has been working on new material for any period on time doesn't mean they *owe* it you to release it. It's YOUR choice to hang on and wait for this album. Axl is in no way forcing you. Thats why he doesn't owe it to you.

Doesn't MTV have 5 or 6 performers already, I don't think GNR would play at any spot other then closing. ?We ll see what happens definitely exciting stuff though.

So you'd like to be convinced you will never get an album again? OK, time to go. No one owes you anything and you wont get it either way. ?:)

Dead on.   :hihi:

In fact, some people are ALREADY blaming Axl.... and he can "make it up to them" by announcing the release date and performing.  I wonder if there is any other band in history that has had fans like this. 

His name rhymes with "Bore Tusk." Kind of.

If you keep blowing up his spot like that, "Bore Tusk" may have to see if Timberlake has a spot for him on his upcoming tour.

Fortus. And you seem like you are trying to get attention, because "your friend knows a guitarist in GNR that rhymes with Bore Tusk" ? ::)

logan from velvetrope forum once said he heard chinese democracy master CD... and also that he was friends with fortus.. or sumfin like that..

he deleted his account from there tho.

?? I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say.

I said it rhymes with Bore Tusk to be funny, mate. Not for attention.  : ok:

You are making a fool out of yourself, really... Stop, and talk straight.  :-\

I've been talking "Straight" this entire topic, my friend. Try reading it again before you respond, eh?  : ok:

The only cryptic thing I've said so far was "Bore Tusk," which was actually to make fun of all the other cryptic answers that are always given on this forum, but looks like people didn't get it. Someone asked me which guitarist I was referencing, and I told him. Simple as.

I disagree with you guys Axl will release the date for Chinese Democracy you ask why ? well why would he even show up to the VMAs.? A. millions of people watch every year what better publicity is that B. I've seen millions of artist plug there new albums look at Macy Gray she even wore at dress with the albums name and release date.? C. I think we will see a little surprise at the end say a Better, Chinese Democracy, Sweet Child O Mine medley.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for that.  ::) That seems really unlikely.

Why go you guys gave to bash him.

He's just giving info he has.

Heres a crazy story:

Basically gnr and MTV know how crazy and obsessive gnr fans are and that we latch on to any rumour like a parachute on a burning plane.

They strategically played a few ads of the VMAs with gnr mentions hoping that some fans will see it and report it but at the same time showing it only once in a blue moon so as to make it seem dubious at the same time.

Then they go on and announce a week before the vmas that Axl will be a presenter so the fans will definitely watch the show for Axl and they know that by announcing Axls participation at the VMA's the fans would once again start specualting whether gnr would perform or not.

At the same time Dizzy's got a gig so fans will debate whether they will play cuz Dizzy's booked for a gig leading to more endless discussion and debate.

It all seems like the perfect plan to get some buzz going before the vmas for ratings cuz ratings equal the almighty dollar and at the end of the day thats what counts.

Personally I dont know if GNR will perform. But I certainly will watch and I know all of you will too.

Um because he's presenting an award.


So the biggest suspence for the release date for this album and you think Axl will just announce it at some award show.


Even if they performed why do you think it would be a medley again. And Axls band/Guns N Roses which ever you prefer to call it isn't there Axl is there alone.

hell if they do a medley I can only imagine they will start with sweet child for sure. It is their most famous song and that intro will drive the crowd nuts.

If you guys check youtube its like no 42 on the most viewed video and one of only 5 or 6 music videos in the top 50 videos ever viewed.

I think from there they will go on to Better or the Blues although I have no clue what they will end with.

Or they might just play all of Better.

--In 2002, one of the bandmembers had a show scheduled on the night of the VMA's
--The last twenty minutes of the 2002 VMA's were not only the most watched VMA's in history, but was the highest rated period on MTV ever--in their whole history! 
--The lousy reception (which I personally think was a collective ugh when people saw Axl's gangsta wannabe/bad cornrowed look, combined with him being flat and out of tune, and DJ's spinning the bad showing into something far worse than it really was) hurt concert sales more than any factor in 2002, which we know basically cancelled the release of CD. 
--Performing this year, at the show is a major roll of the dice.  It can make or break the tour.  I would, perform at a small club, and have it pre-recorded like they did LALD in 1991.  I would not trust the VMA soundsystem.  Also, Axl's voice never is picked up well on TV feeds.  I hope they avoid performing.  Axl, acting and looking ten times better than 2002 is plenty of publicity.

Don't get your hopes up people...

(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3792/bumblefootemailex6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Reply from Ron to poster at mygnr named thomase about VMA preformance:

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=77810&st=15

Just wish I had more time to reply tongue.gif In the studio working on Q*Ball's next album, and only home for another 2 weeks to do what should take 2 months.. tongue.gif So I keep 'em short, but mostly to rest the hands - typing *really* fucks up my hands bad sad.gif

(I'm 99.9999999999% sure we're *not* playing the VMAs...) tongue.gif

bbf

Interesting.

He did not say 100% now why would he say that.

Yeah but you see he uses think instead of sure and also 99.99999999 instead of 100%.

I mean obviously even if they are playing he wouldnt spill the beans by saying, "yeah we're playing. no big deal go tell everyone you know".

But he isnt dismissing the idea completely either.

Very interesting.

Meaning he knows NOTHNG about it but doenst wnat to say 100% because if for some reason they end up commiting to it, whitin the next few days, and play.. he'd look like a liar and an ass.. so it keeps it open.. but i feel hes being honesst he knows nothing about it.. so we prob wont see them play. he didnt even no axl was presenting!! though, supose he did know.. what wuld his response be? "i cant reveal anything" thats the thing, hed prob give the same response so ya never no :yes:

What part of "surprise" performance is not being understood here?  ::)

If it's a surprise why would Ron say "Yeah, we're playing the VMAs"? That would ruin it.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Forget it.

If I had to bet, I would say there is way too much to lose by playing, than any gain they would get by playing.  Axl is going to present, act cool, and that's about it.  Good for him!  Heck, the buzz he is going to get from speculation leading up to the show is priceless!!

Done.

Is this the same source that said GnR was going to play 'Prostitute' on May 12?

omfg, this is hilarious. i love bbf.

I don't think they'll play. But even one good song, or a shortened version of one can't hurt more than an award givaway itself. Unless the song, sound, and reaction to it are poor.

Presenting and acting cool, eh, ok. I don't mind seeing him up there for a bit.

But when it comes to some buzz generation, please. This on and off and mostly nothing over the years is not an uncommon running joke out there. How long did the amazing buzz for an album last after the most recent appearance? In the end you're correct though when it comes to not hinting at anything in anyway if nothing concrete album-wise it firmly planned.

He should just plug the upcoming shows.

Don't let these people hype you up. GN'R isn't gonna play the VMA's. Theres no insider here. Even BBF says "99.9999999% unlikely" and some people still hold hope. Ain't happening.

99.999999999% sure.

But then again, you will all be disapointed  : ok:

Just be happy were probably going to hear some Chinese Democracy related stuff when he presents (or afterwards/before)

Strange how the insider comes around after the "Axl is going to present an award" announcement...  :confused:

Im not saying it definitly won't happen.. I only know as much as most people do, but THINK about it.. they probably wont be playing.

    -jack

this is horse shit dont believe it.

He's no insider either, though, and he plays with them ?:hihi:

So don't be that hard on people who say it's not happening.

Axl, should not play.  In fact, imho, he should avoid the whole thing.  Really, I am hoping Snoop, Shakira, the ten other Snoop-rapper groups, the three flavor of the week boy-bands, and the R&B crooners (who, btw, can't hold a note to save their lives) all announce their retirement.  Bob Dylan is right, most modern so-called musicians suck.

I wish the line-up was full of good young bands--like Rocket 88 and Wolfmother instead of this crap.  The Raconteurs are good, though!

Russian, thanks for the info. 

Why does this whole thread turn into people bashing?  What a waste of 6 pages...

Sure this is only a rumor, but I hope they do play.  It's major exposure and means things are in the works for the album release, most likely.  Just because it's on MTV and MTV plays a lot of really horrible music doesn't mean it's a bad thing.  They were playing a lot of horrible music when the WTTJ video came out, or when Nirvana came out,etc...point is things can change.  Here's hoping a performance happens or a video is premiered and things start to change...

All these young bands are exactly the reason GNR should play. Am I saying that a Fall out Boy fan will hear Gn'R and say " Wow, this is great, I should check them out" Maybe, Maybe not. A lot of younger kids discovered the Clash , Ramones etc through bands like FOB and Good Charlotte. I have no doubt that regardless of any sound system problems, GnR would show these "punks" how it is done and also get publicity that would cost them thousands ?in advertising for free. I am sure the money they save can be used to get Dizzy out of his bar gig.

Axl should have MTV world premier his new video at the show, and then he should tell everyone the album release date. He has too much to lose if he has sound problems while performing.

If he does, just play ONE song and a new one.

Haha. Now THAT'S a good one! Ron seems to be such a nice guy, but you're really just calling a spade a spade with that one!

http://bumbleforum.lesvilles.org/viewtopic.php?t=1798&start=840

Message posted by Ron on his forum:

Haven't heard anything about performing at the VMAs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnSo0Qa_cA0&mode=related&search=

Guess they aint playin or maybe Ron hasnt gotten the memo yet cuz he's in Jersey.

any of these can happen

-a surprise gig without bbfoot (bring back teh buket!)
-no surprise gig, axl presents award then leaves
-axl announces CD release date and performs!
-who cares


the confusion!

hi im mr russian guy... "i have insiders!" can't tell u who! hee hee hee...gnr is gonna play or maybe or who knows...


ur cool! : ok:

Guys, guys, guys, you can all be quiet now because I really have the insider word...
I have several close friends to the band, they all are saying that Axl has infact kicked everyone out of the band and brought back the old members, but you know... like, to cover my ass, take it as a grain of salt, it MIGHT happen, maybe not... you know? I'm saying both things so when one happens, I will say "I SAID THAT OMFG!" ... anyway, I have insiders, so yea... bye!

If he does anything other than just present, it will be to come out on stage with another act like he did with Tom Petty.

Maybe an existing performer plays 75 percent of there current hit, Axl comes out and helps them finish it, then that band breaks into something like Sweet Child..........
I think that does more for his image with the current Mtv generation, than a GnR performance does.

Maybe Axl will rock out with Paris Hilton?. Rock out with his cock out on Paris Hilton!! All the present MTV acts fucking suck. Do you think Axl should rock out with Fall Out Boy or rap with Fifty? He will perform with his band or he won't perform at all.

I don't get why everyone immediately starts bashing someone who wants to present them with info that they've heard.  If you don't believe the guy than fine but why does everyone have to get on him like he's just killed a man.  Either believe it or not, theres no reason for it to get personal like it has.

                                    Someone should tell the admins...that link to Yahoo.com helped me realize the value of my property.  ( hint it took me to Yahoo.Finace or Yahoomoney )

                                     Who is playing at the MTV Music Awards ? I mean I checked the MTV.Com site and VMA site and its a fucked up nightmare. I couldn't find out who or what Rock band was supposed to play the VMA 's and I'd suggest Axl play with them and then present.

                                     

Maybe he is presenting in a tshirt with the letters CHINESE DEMOCRACY NOV. 13

 : ok:

This is PR

And Thank god the GNR PR machine is rolling again

The only reason anyone is a "Presenter" on any of these MTV award shows is to hype what ever project they have upcoming. It will be an interesting watch. If nothing is said at all, I'll be a bit disappointed.

I have a generally good feeling about this... I don't think the man will go on stage and say nothing.  : ok:

still, someday, sunday


make sure you watch the vma's this year.  ;)

Hell yeeees!!! It was about time. Is MTV Europe going to present the show?

Yes. We'll see it.

do you know when it starts?

An Idea:

Maybe he will do a duet together with Izzy..  :beer:
How cool would that be?

No, I've been checking MTV.fr but there's no hour announced yet, sorry

no problem. thanks for checking!

Okay sorry if this has been posted before. I didn't have time to read this whole thread. But are you guys still thinking they will play? Cause I don't think that is possible. Dizzy has a show that night already.

If Axl calls, Dizzy will skip the H&B show in a heartbeat.

True.

maybe Dizzy announce the show with H&B, only for that we doesnt think that there will be GNR show  :-\

BUmblefoot said he hasn't heard anything about performing at the VMAs.

They probably aren't, but he wouldn't say if they were.

Please use the other thread to talk about the VMAs.