Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060824/ap_on_sc/planet_mutiny

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Honestly, I think it's stupid that this is even an argument. In the long run, does it really matter what objects we actually call a planet, moon, star, asteroid, meteor, comet, etc...

Two words. Who cares?

That's one neg karma for insulting pluto.

More intelligent words from the least educated moderator here.

Man, if I had a nickel for every time I had that arguement while high..? ?:smoking:

wel if it has an orbit around the Sun then isn't it a planet?

ahh i see they say because the orbit overlaps neptune then it's not technically a planet

well what about neptune then it overlaps pluto's orbit :hihi:

i thought there was 2 or 3 more planets found farther out from pluto

just cuz some people don't like it doesn't make it not a planet...that is fucked up and your right kinda a dumb argument

 :nervous: :nervous:

However will I remember the order of planets again???

(My? ? Very? ? Earthly Mother Just Sent Us Nick's Pizza)
(Mars Venus Earth? ? Mars... etc.)

 :crying: :crying:

Last week I thought that there were 12 planets, now 8? Make up your mind, nerds!

My Very Earthly Mother Just Sent Us Nick ???

they are classifying it as a new type of body...a dwarf planet along with Xena why are new names for new found things not nearly as cool as the old ones :hihi:

I think Pluto has just been classified as not a planet. Oh my gosh no? :crying:

Maybe Xena Princess Warrior will be named the 9th planet.

Hercules the Legendary Journies hopefully will make it as tenth.

HAha! thats a good one brit.

Yes. Pluto IS a planet and I won't stop thinking it is until Hell freezes over. Fuck the IAU, they don't have the right to make people stop thinking Pluto is a planet! It orbits the Sun and it has a moon of its own, THEREFORE its a planet.

I'm thinking of making a bunch of "PLUTO IS A PLANET GODDAMMIT!" tshirts... ;D

(http://disney.go.com/vault/archives/characterstandard/images/pluto_portrait.jpg)

In the long run, does it really matter if we call a glass of water a glass of water or an elecric guitar?

I think these things do matter, and as more information is gathered, I think it's pretty good for us to change our views based on that, not be stuck with old concepts just because.

Humans as a species categorise things, that is how we in part communicate. Sure it can seem that it's not that important of a thing to an average person if Pluto is a planet or not, but to people working in the field of astronomy.. it is. And I'm sure that they could memorise that Pluto is a planet although none of the other things like it aren't. But that really isn't the point.

Theres a good point!

conversation from the year 2063

"When i was a kid-  there was a planet named PLUTO"
"shut up grandpa, no one cares"

I just think it will be confusing for all the little ones in grade three, who have been learning Pluto is the furthest planet since grade one... now all of a sudden, Pluto dosent even exist in the planets of the solar system!!!!   :confused:  :nervous:

Cut them some slack. They're astronomers. For them, interesting things happen once in 70 years or so. Now they've demoted Pluto. Next they'll say something called UBX23323 is the eigth planet.  ::)

no, it's a dog

Maybe Pluto isnt a plaent because it has an odd orbit

nope, its not a planet because its gravitational pull doesnt drag along its debris or some shit. it has the correct shape and orbit to be a planet but falls down elsehwere making it a dwarf planet.

As mundane as this is its actually quite important, as up untill now we've never actually laid down the rules as to what makes a planet which is odd as its something we as humans love to do. everything is described and categorized from its qualities.

Nah... orbit shape has nuthin' to do with it, it just puts it in a class of its own! Its still a planet though!

I'm sticking to what I said before... if it orbits the Sun, and it has a moon of its own, and its not man-made, ITS A PLANET!! And its bloody gravitational pull means NOTHING. Anything that far away and that small can't have a particularly strong gravitational pull unless it spins at an incredibly fast rate... and I don't know if Pluto does or not... its orbit would suggest that it perhaps doesn't spin that fast... Seriously, it takes about 250 years for Pluto to complete its orbit! So... a Pluto MONTH would be... 20 years, 8 months, and 3 weeks. (long live the calculator!)

pluto: MVEMJSUNP. yup its a planet all right!   : ok:

by your definition nearly every asteroid in the asteroid belt and the kuiper belt is a planet.

whats the point in categorizing things if it includes everything?

2naFish, do asteroids have moons of their own and their own separate orbit? No. Does Pluto? Yes.

yes, hundreds and hundreds in the kuiper belt do. not sure about the asteroid belt as i've never studied that but i'd assume so.

Excellent points Skeba.

I just saw on the news that Pluto has a strange orbit and that's why it has lost it's status as a planet.

Finally somebody has put that lying megalomanic bitch in its place...

-PEACE-

this news reminds us that we make the truth.

The argument really came into play when the two "new" planets were going to be classified as planets proper.  Pluto has been defined as a planet since the 30's so we all kind of hate to see it go but in reality it is a good call.  Otherwise our solar system would soon have dozens more planets added to it in the near future.  The line had to be drawn somewhere.   On the bright side that's one less thing kiddies will have to remember in Science class now.  ;D

haha lol lmao

yeah, but Pluto was the one we all learn easy, because of it's goofy name.

Pluto is smaller than Earths moon btw, so it is a tiny planet.

This is good news, now I can finally go back and adjust my 6th grade science test score.............

yes..yes it is..
despite what those cocks up there who decide what is what..I think it is..

That is not a trouble PLUTO istil a DOG. : ok:

I have a book called something like "The Encyclopedia of Astronomics" (do not bash me, I have the German issue). It is from 1989 and even then the astronomic society thought that Pluto is NOT a planet, nor was Charon considered as Pluto's moon. They classified Charon as moon but they treated Pluto and Charon as a double object.
I still regard Pluto as the 9th planet because I am used to it. :'(
I also remember that there is some discussion about other objects in the solar system. For example: Deimos and Phobos (Mars' moons), some moons of Jupiter and Saturn (every bloody 5km-piece of rock is called moon, but Pluto is not a planet :rant:)

I know that some people are thinking of Pluto being a captured planetoid by Neptune's orbit, but who cares? I don't.


P.S. I am used to talking and writing English, but some technical terms may went totally wrong.
Maybe next time I will write technical stuff in German :rofl:

The real question here has little to do with Pluto itself!, but relates to other like bodies of rubbish that may, at this point or somewhere in the future, fall under the same bracket, that is into the same category by virtue of having the same properties, and therefore in themselves become a planet!

As such our Very Easy Methods, for just Speeding Up Naming Planets, would become defunct!, and children would have to learn longer, more complex, xylophone inclusive rhymes or such.

I'm all for dismissing that out-dated piece of shite, he's only the god of the underworld anyway.

Beat you to it buddy.

I can't wait to explain all this to my students in two days...sigh.

Just absurd

It was a planet decades and decades ago - and it should remain that way.

If you want to see what endlessly meddling, simply because you can, leads to go check the EU out.....

I read somewhere , that some women in States took it so deep, that she make and sell
t-shirts to support Pluto.  :P

Alina, that's what I was gunna do!!! The t-shirts were gunna say "Pluto IS A Planet Goddammit!!!"

:smoking:

Planets have feelings too. ::)

cool where I can buy this t-shirt  :rofl:

Im making Tshirts that say "Go fuck yourself Pluto"

It goes beyond Neptune sometimes in the orbit...doesn't that mean anything? Pluto is like the Dennis Rodman of Planets. No Respect...because of it's outlandish ways. A darn shame.

Pluto's not a planet .... since when?

Well, the book companies are going to make more money now.  Just think of all the texts that have Pluto as the ninth planet in our solar system.  All that has to be changed.  Hmmmm....our science series isn't up for another text adoption for at least 2 more years. 

It's fun to see what everyone else has used to remember the order of the planets.  We always use:

My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas

Last year, my 2nd graders really loved learning about the solar system.  It was amazing how they all remembered that Pluto was the 8th planet for a 20 year period every 200 something years.  (crap, I'm old and can't even remember exactly what I taught 'em now!   :hihi:)  Little factoids like that, they can remember...but the stuff that we actually have to know for a test?   :no:   

Ok...so, y'all keep me updated so I'll know what to teach the kiddies this year!   :hihi:

Yes, and let's bring back slavery! Endless meddling through the years has ruined the cotton industry...

... ::)...

...go get an informed opinion. It'll look good on ya.

Any chance Pluto crashes into Neptune during one of its orbit changes and ends this fucking debate? Because I'd rather see that.

Hey!! Sign this here petition to get them to take back their insulting demotion and relocate Pluto back to its former grand status! Just because its small and it has a wonky orbit doesn't make it any less of a planet!

http://www.plutopetition.com/

Funny to see this thread brought back to life when I passed a guy at lunch with a bumper sticker saying "Honk if you think Pluto is still a planet!" :hihi:

i say it is a planet because i dont think that NASA would send a multi million dollar camera out to go look at a giant rock. Another thing that bothers me is that why don't they stop making these camera's that cost billions and instead build a new ship. They need a new one after all this other crap has happened with 2 of them blowing up.

lets start a new petition saying "build a new ship" if they can aford all those giant teloscopes and camera's and rovers and orbitors they can build a new ship.

:peace: