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Title: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: guscouto on August 19, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
i don't know about you guys, but i can't wait to hear the new guns playing that song.
I hope it really happens ... i think it's one of the coolest songs to be played live ...


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Mr. Nik™ on August 19, 2006, 07:06:36 PM
I hope too that! I love the song and I think I'd love how these guys could play it


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Cowboy Buddha on August 19, 2006, 07:12:31 PM
when did he say that?


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: cotis on August 19, 2006, 07:14:16 PM
in an email last week or so


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: busngabb on August 19, 2006, 07:16:41 PM
I just hope they reherse it properly and don't just do it once before trying it live.

There is nothing worse for convincing the doubters than when they balls up the classics.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Aquila on August 19, 2006, 07:20:08 PM
Jesus, I hope they don't give Finck the lead on Civil War... :nervous:


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Jessica on August 19, 2006, 07:20:53 PM
oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

YES PLEASE, play civil war !!!!!!!!

PS : robin won't mess civil war, i just know he won't...


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Aquila on August 19, 2006, 07:24:17 PM
If Finck does Civil War justice I'll drink a pint of my own cum.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Lucky on August 19, 2006, 07:25:19 PM
I tought you were impotent :-*


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Drew on August 19, 2006, 07:27:51 PM
It would be nice to hear it live once again. :)


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Jim Bob on August 19, 2006, 07:28:01 PM
If Finck does Civil War justice I'll drink a pint of my own cum.

get ready to drink up!   I could see Finck doing something amazing with those leads  : ok:


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Jessica on August 19, 2006, 07:28:09 PM
If Finck does Civil War justice I'll drink a pint of my own cum.

Ok, bets are open, RIGHT NOW

robin, if you read this, practise practise practise, i want to see the video of him actually swallowing his own cum.. :hihi:


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Jessica on August 19, 2006, 07:28:29 PM
If Finck does Civil War justice I'll drink a pint of my own cum.

get ready to drink up!   I could see Finck doing something amazing with those leads  : ok:

exactly  : ok:


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Ellroy on August 19, 2006, 07:30:54 PM
If Finck does Civil War justice I'll drink a pint of my own cum.

Ok, bets are open, RIGHT NOW

robin, if you read this, practise practise practise, i want to see the video of him actually swallowing his own cum.. :hihi:

Yeah, that'll happen. It doesn't matter how great Robin plays if he doesn't play it exactly the way Slash did than those that hate will say it blows and that he sucks.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Jessica on August 19, 2006, 07:32:59 PM
Idon't want the slash way, i want the robin way, but exactitude on notes and timing/rythm... :D ;)


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Aquila on August 19, 2006, 07:33:55 PM
If Finck does Civil War justice I'll drink a pint of my own cum.

Ok, bets are open, RIGHT NOW

robin, if you read this, practise practise practise, i want to see the video of him actually swallowing his own cum.. :hihi:

Yeah, that'll happen. It doesn't matter how great Robin plays if he doesn't play it exactly the way Slash did than those that hate will say it blows and that he sucks.

For the record. That's not how I feel, I never really intended to imply a Finck vs Slash attitude, more a Thal vs Finck one.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: guscouto on August 19, 2006, 07:37:15 PM
Jesus, I hope they don't give Finck the lead on Civil War... :nervous:

man, stop complaining..
 I Can play civil war ... finck would kick ass playin' it ...


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: axlrosegnr on August 19, 2006, 07:38:41 PM
I think Richard was just talking, ya know?  Like if he was asked if they'd play any song......


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Smoking Guns on August 19, 2006, 07:39:19 PM
Wow, and that is a Slash song... ?All the guitars on that track are Slash too.. ?What a cool song Slash wrote.. I am sure they will play it fine.. ?


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Aquila on August 19, 2006, 07:40:06 PM
Being able to play a song and being able to do justice to it are 2 different things. Any chump could play the Nightrain solo for example but could they go toe to toe with Buckethead on that song? Exactly.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Mr. Nik™ on August 19, 2006, 07:52:46 PM
robin won't mess civil war, i just know he won't...

 :-* :-* :-* :-*  : ok:  :beer:  8)  :peace:  :love:  :smoking:


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Jessica on August 19, 2006, 08:13:02 PM
robin won't mess civil war, i just know he won't...

 :-* :-* :-* :-*  : ok:  :beer:  8)  :peace:  :love:  :smoking:

faith babe, faith


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: guscouto on August 19, 2006, 08:19:24 PM
i don't care how they play ...
the only song i think they messed up is Knockin' on Heavens Door ... i really consider the old version better ... but this new version has its moments ... it's a good song...
and i realyy don't think they'll change civil war a lot ... i think they'll play a fair and cool version of it ...


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Mattattack on August 19, 2006, 09:22:39 PM
I doubt the new band will ever play Civil War. They need to concentrate on playing more of their own material.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: AmyRose on August 19, 2006, 11:11:50 PM
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE AXL!!!!!!!  CIVIL WAR!!! Play in for Inland Invasion! PLEEEASE! I love that song. I think everyone would love that.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: GnR-NOW on August 19, 2006, 11:44:51 PM
i hope they play civil war in during the us tour and maybe coma


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: jimmythegent on August 20, 2006, 12:27:40 AM
Idon't want the slash way, i want the robin way, but exactitude on notes and timing/rythm... :D ;)

that sounds like you want the Slash way then


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: -Jack- on August 20, 2006, 12:30:01 AM
Idon't want the slash way, i want the robin way, but exactitude on notes and timing/rythm... :D ;)

that sounds like you want the Slash way then

Lol. Yeah I thought the same thing.

Anyways.. I'm sure they could pull it off.. but.. this song does depend alot on Slash's tone. Would be interesting.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: WhatIsItMan on August 20, 2006, 12:41:34 AM
Play some NEW shit!!!!!


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: PrettyTiedUp763 on August 20, 2006, 02:41:48 AM
Words can't describe how much I would like to hear Civil War during this tour. But I am not going to allow myself to get to excited... :D


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Jim Bob on August 20, 2006, 03:03:36 AM
Idon't want the slash way, i want the robin way, but exactitude on notes and timing/rythm... :D ;)

that sounds like you want the Slash way then

Lol. Yeah I thought the same thing.

Anyways.. I'm sure they could pull it off.. but.. this song does depend alot on Slash's tone. Would be interesting.

the song wuld be fine without Slash.   Its not like he can be there to play it, so I'm sure Robin or Ron or whoever gets the lead on the song would play it perfectly fine, maybe even better.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on August 20, 2006, 03:18:21 AM
I would rather hear The General, Thyme or something else I have no privy to. (supposed songs)

Sorry - to all that never heard Civil War live but I have seen that song live many times over. Through many costume changes too!
If I was to pick an old song for GNR to do - I'd like to hear something like Nice Boys
Ok - I'm a purist and a total supporter of the recent GNR too - but the purists will flame me over this - I am sure


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: MikeFrett on August 20, 2006, 04:27:32 AM
Play some NEW shit!!!!!

I agree!  ;)


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: The General on August 20, 2006, 05:47:13 AM
Who care?
You should be happy hearing songs from AFD the best album. Those new people had to learn every song + some more + the new songs and you are not happy??
This is a stupid tread.



Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: ClintroN on August 20, 2006, 05:51:25 AM
Who care?
You should be happy hearing songs from AFD the best album. Those new people had to learn every song + some more + the new songs and you are not happy??
This is a stupid tread.



this is a stupid DUMBARSE reply ::) :P :P :P


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: pollyblue on August 20, 2006, 05:55:54 AM
fortus didn't say that they will play civil war in the future, he just lets every option open.
some people here need to calm down sometimes. we will see what we get to hear.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on August 20, 2006, 07:17:27 AM
well..i hope they play it right...The guys killed the song when they played it live on the get in the ring motherfucker tour..Only sounds good on record ( maybe Farm Aid )


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Alan on August 20, 2006, 11:03:12 AM
Jesus, I hope they don't give Finck the lead on Civil War... :nervous:

i'm with you on that, they shouldn't have let him near patience either.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Eternal Flaming Sword of Death... on August 20, 2006, 12:54:23 PM
altough the lead on Patience that Slash did was great, Robin Finck put his own stamp on the song, and many feel that it is really great. You are entitled to your opinion, but the fact is alot of people really like what Finck brings to the band, and I think that this will be alot more clear if we ever hear the album.


Remember, Axl hand-picked Robin. Axl is no idiot. He knows what he can do. I don't think the fucker would still be around if he was as talentless as some of you aresholes would like to think..


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Alan on August 20, 2006, 02:15:17 PM
altough the lead on Patience that Slash did was great, Robin Finck put his own stamp on the song, and many feel that it is really great. You are entitled to your opinion, but the fact is alot of people really like what Finck brings to the band, and I think that this will be alot more clear if we ever hear the album.


Remember, Axl hand-picked Robin. Axl is no idiot. He knows what he can do. I don't think the fucker would still be around if he was as talentless as some of you aresholes would like to think..

i see your point, but alot of people here are also complete ass kissers. i don't hate finck, he can play but at times he just butchers stuff.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: BangoSkank on August 20, 2006, 03:26:52 PM
will you guys just fucking give finck a break... christ the guy is playing with axl fuck rose, he's good, probably better than half of us here if not all of us.

he's good... id rather hear him do the songs now than slash do them when he was fucked up in the 90s.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Origen on August 20, 2006, 03:33:41 PM
will you guys just fucking give finck a break... christ the guy is playing with axl fuck rose, he's good, probably better than half of us here if not all of us.
From the stuff people have posted in the musicians section here I bet a hell of alot of people here can play better then him.


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he's good... id rather hear him do the songs now than slash do them when he was fucked up in the 90s
:rofl:  I'll not bother going on about how wrong that statement is when your talking about the person who wrote the damn thing


If they played it live Richard should deffiantly do the majority of the solos in the song since he could probably pull them off best.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: michaelvincent on August 21, 2006, 08:23:16 AM
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will you guys just fucking give finck a break... christ the guy is playing with axl fuck rose, he's good, probably better than half of us here if not all of us.

I've farted more in-key solos than Finck can play with two hands.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Voodoochild on August 21, 2006, 08:29:41 AM
OMG, give me a break. The guy can play, of course. Also, he wrote some awesome solos, and that's why Axl wanted him. You can play what Slash played? I can too. Does Robin want to do that? Hell no!

And if you want a perfect guitar player who doesn't fuck up anything, you shouldn't like GN'R since Slash fucked up a lot too - yeah, he wrote it, but he fucked up too, so this is not an excuse for him.

This Robin bash is getting really old, you know. Every fuckin' thread has some whiners... Of course the band could play Civil War just fine, all of them are capable of play it. Listen to SCOM, Nightrain, NR... All of those songs are not easier than Civil War.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: CAFC Nick on August 21, 2006, 08:36:13 AM
Civil War is a really easy piece to play Slash-wise.

It was the first like melody I ever learnt to play on guitar.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: deanaxlrose on August 21, 2006, 11:06:57 AM
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will you guys just fucking give finck a break... christ the guy is playing with axl fuck rose, he's good, probably better than half of us here if not all of us.

I've farted more in-key solos than Finck can play with two hands.
well then i want to see you farted in-key solos in the videos.that would be amazing.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: russtcb on August 21, 2006, 11:12:04 AM
OMG, give me a break. The guy can play, of course. Also, he wrote some awesome solos, and that's why Axl wanted him. You can play what Slash played? I can too. Does Robin want to do that? Hell no!

And if you want a perfect guitar player who doesn't fuck up anything, you shouldn't like GN'R since Slash fucked up a lot too - yeah, he wrote it, but he fucked up too, so this is not an excuse for him.

This Robin bash is getting really old, you know. Every fuckin' thread has some whiners... Of course the band could play Civil War just fine, all of them are capable of play it. Listen to SCOM, Nightrain, NR... All of those songs are not easier than Civil War.

All of this is exactly true. I still maintain my point that all of these old GNR "fans" probably haven't even heard the bulk of bootlegs out there from the Illusion tours. Slash had some brilliant nights but he also had some TERRIBLE nights.

All in all Finck, Fortus & BBF all play with more consistancy and accuaracy then anyone who's played in this band before them.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Outtagetme on August 21, 2006, 11:12:17 AM
IMO, Axl didn't want Robin in the band because of his playing style or talent. ?He wanted Trent Reznor's guitarist. ?He wanted Guns N' Roses to look and sound like Nine Inch Nails at one point. ?For that reason, he picked up Robin and Pittman. ?


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: awolgnr on August 21, 2006, 11:22:41 AM
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone brought up Civil War and Estranged.  It's funny how those two are contiually singled out.  Does Axl not realize how many people want those songs?


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: WARose on August 21, 2006, 11:33:55 AM
IMO, Axl didn't want Robin in the band because of his playing style or talent.  He wanted Trent Reznor's guitarist.  He wanted Guns N' Roses to look and sound like Nine Inch Nails at one point.  For that reason, he picked up Robin and Pittman. 

yeah sure.....  that was the reason dude : ok:



 ::)


I wish I had a dollar for every time someone brought up Civil War and Estranged. It's funny how those two are contiually singled out. Does Axl not realize how many people want those songs?

it might be that lots of people want to hear civil war or estranged live, but you can`t conclude that from posts on internet forums....


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Elrothiel on August 21, 2006, 03:22:51 PM
Back on topic... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE play Civil War!!


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: busngabb on August 21, 2006, 04:26:58 PM
Yeah, play it. But I'd rather they played some new stuff instead. : ok:

As for the Slash stuff, my kid brother can play all the classic riffs note for note, but he is working in Asda Rhyl and not on stage with Axl Rose. That suggests to me that Robin Finck has some qualities that make Axl want him to be there.

(Like the fact that he is an AMAZING live performer and he apparantly writes pretty well)


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: F*ck Fear on August 21, 2006, 04:54:34 PM
I actually don't want to them to play the song. Stop with the old material please! Add more new stuff if anything. If they dont want to add anything new right now, play Rhiad, Chinese Democracy, and There Was A Time more often.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: gcluskey on August 21, 2006, 06:10:37 PM
Look it's Guns n Roses, Axl's band. Civil War is a Guns n Roses song so the new band should play it if Axl feels like it. These guys are all top musicians, they're not the old band but flying under the GNR flag they should be able to play all GNR songs. Its not that difficult really when you think about it, they've got the singer and the their instruments should be able to play the music, Slash and Duff are awesome musicians but the songs they wrote can be played by anyone. Its writing the material in the first place thats the tricky part. So yes let's hear them play UYI songs, Axl spent enough time recording them.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: russtcb on August 22, 2006, 09:33:04 AM
Look it's Guns n Roses, Axl's band. Civil War is a Guns n Roses song so the new band should play it if Axl feels like it. These guys are all top musicians, they're not the old band but flying under the GNR flag they should be able to play all GNR songs. Its not that difficult really when you think about it, they've got the singer and the their instruments should be able to play the music, Slash and Duff are awesome musicians but the songs they wrote can be played by anyone. Its writing the material in the first place thats the tricky part. So yes let's hear them play UYI songs, Axl spent enough time recording them.

Hopefully if/when they update the webpage they can do what some other bands do and place a voting area on there for what old tunes they should do.

I'm sure Estranged and Civil War would get the most votes, but I could see Don't Cry and even stuff like Locomotive being way up there too.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: BangoSkank on August 25, 2006, 11:27:28 AM
will you guys just fucking give finck a break... christ the guy is playing with axl fuck rose, he's good, probably better than half of us here if not all of us.
From the stuff people have posted in the musicians section here I bet a hell of alot of people here can play better then him.


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he's good... id rather hear him do the songs now than slash do them when he was fucked up in the 90s
:rofl:? I'll not bother going on about how wrong that statement is when your talking about the person who wrote the damn thing


If they played it live Richard should deffiantly do the majority of the solos in the song since he could probably pull them off best.


very true slash wrote it... but he was fucked up.

robin isn't and he's totally there mentally for the show.


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: Neemo on August 25, 2006, 11:29:34 AM
will you guys just fucking give finck a break... christ the guy is playing with axl fuck rose, he's good, probably better than half of us here if not all of us.
From the stuff people have posted in the musicians section here I bet a hell of alot of people here can play better then him.


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he's good... id rather hear him do the songs now than slash do them when he was fucked up in the 90s
:rofl:? I'll not bother going on about how wrong that statement is when your talking about the person who wrote the damn thing


If they played it live Richard should deffiantly do the majority of the solos in the song since he could probably pull them off best.


very true slash wrote it... but he was fucked up.

robin isn't and he's totally there mentally for the show.

maybe....how do we know what they are drinking, swallowing or smoking? oh yeah we don't :P


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: BangoSkank on August 26, 2006, 03:45:03 PM
will you guys just fucking give finck a break... christ the guy is playing with axl fuck rose, he's good, probably better than half of us here if not all of us.
From the stuff people have posted in the musicians section here I bet a hell of alot of people here can play better then him.


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he's good... id rather hear him do the songs now than slash do them when he was fucked up in the 90s
:rofl:? I'll not bother going on about how wrong that statement is when your talking about the person who wrote the damn thing


If they played it live Richard should deffiantly do the majority of the solos in the song since he could probably pull them off best.


very true slash wrote it... but he was fucked up.

robin isn't and he's totally there mentally for the show.

maybe....how do we know what they are drinking, swallowing or smoking? oh yeah we don't :P


well even if he is boozing, he can apparently hold it better than slash... owned


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: codenameninja on August 26, 2006, 03:47:27 PM
Dizzy Reed is a heavy boozer and Axl likes to stay up late, get drunk and bite security guards, who is to say the rest of them don't get wasted most nights  :hihi:


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: nesquick on August 26, 2006, 03:49:18 PM
Jesus, I hope they don't give Finck the lead on Civil War... :nervous:
I'd rather see Robin playing it than BBF shredding and massacring this song. At least Robin doesn't shredd. Anyway, I think Richard would be the best to do the leads on that one (and ALL the Leads). He is the closest guy to Slash in term of talent and guitar playing in this new band. I think he would sound right for that song. But again, it would be another cover song. I'd like the band to play their own material now. They have to play their own material to proove themself as a "band".


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: codenameninja on August 26, 2006, 04:02:15 PM
I can live without Civil War, i normally skip it when playing the UYI albums. I can think of so many other Gn'R songs they could perform live, rather than play Civil War  :peace:


Title: Re: About Richard saying they might play Civil War...
Post by: BangoSkank on August 26, 2006, 08:03:56 PM
while its true axl and dizzy get fucked up... they dont carry it onto the stage.