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Title: Chinese and Japanese Dragons Difference
Post by: anythinggoes on August 19, 2006, 01:01:50 PM
ok i was thinking about having another tattoo one day to go with that falmes on my arm and i was thinking of having a dragon on my forearm blowing the flames at the top of my arm and as my tattoo was GNR related i thought it would be cool to have a Chinese style dragon but i didnt know the difference and now i do thank you google. If anyone else knows of any other differences please post here :hihi:


Chinese or Korean Imperial dragons have five toes on each foot; Indonesian dragons have four and Japanese dragons have three. To explain this phenomenon, Chinese legend states that although dragons originated in China, the further away from China a dragon went the fewer toes it had, and dragons only exist in China, Korea, Indonesia, and Japan because if they traveled further they would have no toes to continue. Japanese legend has an opposing story made up after the Chinese one, namely that dragons originated in Japan, and the further they traveled the more toes they grew and as a result, if they went too far they would have too many toes to continue to walk properly. These theories are rejected in Korea and Indonesia.

Another interpretation: according to several sources, including historical official documents, ordinary Chinese dragons had four toes - but the Imperial Dragon had five. It was a capital offense for anyone other than the emperor to use the five-clawed dragon motif. Korean sources seem to disagree (or perhaps agree) with this theory, as the Imperial dragon in Gyeongbok Palace has seven claws, implying its superiority over the Chinese Dragon; of course, this dragon image is hidden in the rafters of the palace and is not entirely in view, even to those who know it is there, suggesting that while the ancient Koreans viewed it as superior, they also knew that it would be offensive to the Imperial Chinese Court. The Han style dragon is also 3 clawed, which explains how the 3 clawed dragon went to Japan in the Tang or pre-Tang period.


Title: Re: Chinese and Japanese Dragons Difference
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on August 19, 2006, 04:20:00 PM
what about a western role playing game type of dragon ? la dungeons&dragons and such.


Title: Re: Chinese and Japanese Dragons Difference
Post by: anythinggoes on August 19, 2006, 05:23:51 PM
Well ive never used dragons in role playing but thats i different story


Title: Re: Chinese and Japanese Dragons Difference
Post by: Elrothiel on August 19, 2006, 11:47:47 PM
I knew about the claw thing, but I never realized WHY exactly it was like that... and I didn't know the Imperial Dragon had seven claws, I just always thought it was five...
Seeing as we're on the subject of tattoos... I suggest you get yourself a seven clawed dragon! :smoking:


Title: Re: Chinese and Japanese Dragons Difference
Post by: KIKO2K6 on August 20, 2006, 12:30:36 AM
Chinese and Japanese always  :hihi:  looks the same.