Here Today... Gone To Hell!

its probably a daft post, lock it if you want guys, but does anyyone think the lyrics have anything to do with y he doesnt play it anymore?

"old at heart, but im only 28", he's not 28  :no:

christ that was a bad post! lol!

Ha ha

no!!

 ;D

He sang in 1992 when he was 30 i believe.

Dude I think it was ment to be a joke. Besides 30 is alot closer then 44  :hihi:

Maybe he'll wait until he is 48 and the change the lyric. ::)

from what i know, even the old band stopped playing it after 92

didn't Gn'R split around then anyway  :peace:

It was played throughout 1993. The concert footage you see in the video is actual concert footage from a 1993 concert in germany. (with the exception of a few closeups which were reshot)

You could start a thread like this for a lot of songs we haven't heard. ?I don't think anyone has ever flat out asked if the new band would learn every old song. ?I'd imagine they will not. ?I thought I read in here though that Richard said perhaps they may play Civil War at some point.

I believe that it would be an insult to play without Slash, who painstakingly wrote the guitar parts for Axl.

Axl: "I really was sincere about thanking him for doing that and the work that he did on this song is really special and really special to me.  I was very appreciative of him doing that."

so it is... ive watched the making of a few times, how did i not notice :P oh well... wasnt it atleast cut out of the set more than it used to be played though?

Glad you appreciate your guitarist writing guitar parts for the band. Nice one. At least he didnt reject that one.

Estranged is so Slash heavy. who is to know, maybe the new band have attempted to play the song. It would make sense to only play the pre CD songs that work really well performed live by the latest line up.

"old at heart, but im only 44" I think it fits right.  :hihi:

my version : old at heart but I'm only 44
And I'm much too old
to let love break my heart   :hihi:

I think the song is to "personal", don't think we will ever here it live again, unless by chance there is a reunion.  Not to sound negative though does anyone else agree?

Reading the posts on this subject but no-one has answered it. The reason its probably not played is that it was difficult. I remember an interview with the original members of the band, think it may have been on one of the Illusion video's but don't quote me on that. Duff or Dizzy commented on the song being really hard to get right live. Maybe Axl thinks its irrelevant these days.

It was never a great song live anyway.  You can only have so many songs like that in a set without killing momentum.  November Rain is always going to be played.  Two 9 minute, piano based ballads is a lot especially since they're going to be playing The Blues at all the shows too.  You have to mix the rockers with the slower songs, adding Estranged to the set list just isn't going to happen

WHAT THE FUCK!?

Not a great song Live?

Shit dude... get off the crack and then listen again.  It was fucking amazing.  The part in Tokyo, where Axl goes "WOAH" before the slash solo... just makes my hair stand on the back of my neck!  Fucking amazing song live!

jeez!

yeah dude you right Estranged is great live song :beer:

I don't have a link or reference, but I recall the reason it's not played anymore is because Axl said he would not play the song without Slash.  This came up around the time where Velvet Revolver started covering some GN'R stuff like You're Crazy, but said he'd never play something like Sweet Child O' Mine without Axl. 

Lol. Good idea!? :hihi: But I don't think that has anything to do with the song not being played.

Hardy fuckin' har.


To clarify the context used:

I was very appreciative of him doing the work that he did on this song, which is really special and really special to me.

You have a song that has a very personal meaning to you, and your guitar player seems to surpass himself by taking it up to another level with his guitar parts - why wouldn't you be particularly appreciative about something like that? Credit where credit is due.

Back to the original topic... probably a brand new guitarist is told the setlist
Estranged wasn't in a rehersal or put on the 8 1/2 X 11 sheet written in a sharpie in front of them

There is your answer

It's not played live because the new band cant pull it off. You could also factor in how much of a failure the song was as a single, but it comes down to the fact that it's too much to ask from this band.

Please... the new band could pull it off just as well as the old band, which btw, was only so-so.

This band could play it, but I think that they want to keep the 9 minute songs to a minimum.  November Rain is enough of the really long songs for 1 concert. 

Exactly.

Besides, there are a few threads with discussions on why they've played just a few songs of the illusions and so on...

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=30079.0

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=30829.0