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Title: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: RichardNixon on August 16, 2006, 09:58:44 PM I say yes. It's been about six months since the leaks came out and they sound a great as ever. I'm still really digging them and find them to be more satisfying then the band's actual released music. I think CD may be the band's finest album...knock on wood...
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: -Jack- on August 16, 2006, 10:01:31 PM I say yes. It's been about six months since the leaks came out and they sound a great as ever. I'm still really digging them and find them to be more satisfying then the band's actual released music. I think CD may be the band's finest album...knock on wood... I say no. The only new song I listen to nowadays is Chinese Democracy. Occasionally CITR or IRS. Im sure the album will own, but the demos really aren't that great. Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: novemberparadise23 on August 17, 2006, 12:31:05 AM i say with the exception of chinese democracy they all sound great to me im just not a huge fan of that track
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on August 19, 2006, 03:33:46 PM hmmm...
- No - Defently..no - God no ! - Noway ! - NOOOOOOOOOO Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: mikegiuliana on August 19, 2006, 03:46:03 PM I don't even care about most of the songs I've already heard, none have had the impact jungle scom pc did on their first record not to mention rq, nt, ise, mr b had on me.. I hope cd comes out and some singles or vids happen.. Can;'t keep living on boot forever, for christ sake tommy has more solo albums then new gnr albums and it's only one since 98
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: Gargh! on August 19, 2006, 04:49:59 PM There Was A Time is right up there for me. IRS, too.
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: Tomorrows on August 19, 2006, 08:09:45 PM Fuck no, are you high?
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: PJ on August 21, 2006, 11:18:17 AM fuck yes!
the songs rule! Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: TrueRock&Roll on August 21, 2006, 03:40:28 PM Absolutely. Plus you gotta remember this... These songs are incredible, and they aren't even the final version of them. They'll sound 10 times better on the album. So really, you can't say no to the songs yet, because they aren't in their final form. I strongly believe that these songs will be noted as some of the best work.
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: Locomotive98 on August 22, 2006, 01:34:14 AM A resounding no!!!!
Better = Nu-metal all the way. Cheers Robin..... Chi Dem = a riff a 6 year old could write. IRS - Weak rocker with the worst intro theyve ever done. CITR - 'Quick we need a singalong, wheres my Beatles cd'? The Blues - Not bad. Madagascar - Just terrible. Sampling Civil War speech etc!! Cmon.... Rhiad - Terrible Silkworms - Terrible TWAT - Love it. See, I dont think theyre all rubbish. But tell me theyre as good as Appetite or even most of Illusions and I guess I'll laugh in your face. Dont get upset, its just opinion.... Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: Six Strings on August 22, 2006, 07:59:19 AM I don't know. It's definitely not such an impact as the Appetite and Illusions songs are to me. See I kinda like Chinese Democracy and TWAT. The Blues is OK also but Silkworms, Rhiad - no good at all.
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: NicoRourke on August 22, 2006, 09:26:22 AM Yeah they do.
Besides, what's "GN'R's best work" ? AFD, UYI's ? To me AFD is not their best work, and the CD demos we have is way better ... (but then, it's probably because I'm tired of AFD ;D) Dont get upset, its just opinion ... Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: T_Roxie on August 22, 2006, 09:56:21 AM I dont think they do...I like them, but I think Appetite is just too good, and a different style - its gone even more overboard than the illusions. (IMO)
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: codenameninja on August 22, 2006, 01:52:13 PM Remember boys and girls.. ROUND1: The Blues, Madagascar, Silkworms, Rhyiad, Chinese Democracy.. 4 year wait.. ROUND2: IRS, Better, There was a Time,Catcher in the Rye.. ? year wait.. ROUND3: The release of CD and the rest of the tracks (part of me thinks Better, IRS and There was a Time is as good as it going to get) Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: TrueRock&Roll on August 22, 2006, 07:22:35 PM Just wait till the album comes out to judge properly.
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: RichardNixon on August 22, 2006, 09:15:46 PM A resounding no!!!! Better = Nu-metal all the way. Cheers Robin..... Chi Dem = a riff a 6 year old could write. IRS - Weak rocker with the worst intro theyve ever done. CITR - 'Quick we need a singalong, wheres my Beatles cd'? The Blues - Not bad. Madagascar - Just terrible. Sampling Civil War speech etc!! Cmon.... Rhiad - Terrible Silkworms - Terrible TWAT - Love it. See, I dont think theyre all rubbish. But tell me theyre as good as Appetite or even most of Illusions and I guess I'll laugh in your face. Dont get upset, its just opinion.... "Better" numetal? Are you high? Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: Locomotive98 on August 23, 2006, 08:44:57 AM A resounding no!!!! Better = Nu-metal all the way. Cheers Robin..... Chi Dem = a riff a 6 year old could write. IRS - Weak rocker with the worst intro theyve ever done. CITR - 'Quick we need a singalong, wheres my Beatles cd'? The Blues - Not bad. Madagascar - Just terrible. Sampling Civil War speech etc!! Cmon.... Rhiad - Terrible Silkworms - Terrible TWAT - Love it. See, I dont think theyre all rubbish. But tell me theyre as good as Appetite or even most of Illusions and I guess I'll laugh in your face. Dont get upset, its just opinion.... "Better" numetal? Are you high? Yes, but I find that Im actually more musically tuned when I'm high. For me Better is nu-metal. Ok whiny, Industrial tinged nu-metal now that Im really high. Sorry I dont like it, I know Im supposed to but I dont. Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: gnome on August 23, 2006, 10:01:24 AM I really like There Was A Time and Catcher in the Rye.
I am not a big fan of the drum machine loops that occur in a lot of the new songs. Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: RichardNixon on August 23, 2006, 09:24:28 PM No way it "Better" nu-metal. Nu-Metal is KORN, Limp Bizkit--sounds like the inside of a meat grinder, no melody or solos.
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: Ali on August 23, 2006, 10:12:55 PM I agree that "Better" is not nu-metal by any means. Axl's not rapping like Jonathan Davis from Korn or growling like Corey Taylor from Slipknot. It's too insanely catchy and beat-driven to be nu-metal like that. If anything, the juxtaposition of the poppy verses and choruses and the metal-ish middle section remind a little of System of a Down's schizo style fusions with songs.
I love "There Was A Time", for me it's like a modern day "Estranged". I love the riff to "Chinese Democracy" and the beauty of "The Blues", and the Beatles-esque flow of "Catcher In The Rye". I love the songs, but final judgement should be reserved for the finished products. Ali Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: mikegiuliana on August 24, 2006, 03:12:20 AM There Was A Time is right up there for me.? IRS, too. irs, come on now... No way it ranks that high, the outro is the best thing about the song, rest is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: NicoRourke on August 24, 2006, 03:38:28 AM I am not a big fan of the drum machine loops that occur in a lot of the new songs. They will be gone hopefully, on the finished tracks (or at least dropped down in the final mix :yes:) Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: CheapJon on August 25, 2006, 01:17:00 PM i say yes. all of the new songs that we know of and have heard are IMO better than for example anything goes, move to the city, sympathy for the devil, you're crazy, my michelle, reckless life, LALD, dust n bones, perfect crime just to name a few..
it's not that i don't like the songs i mentioned, but i really like the new songs : ok: Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: gun on August 25, 2006, 01:39:58 PM NO! The leaks are better than some things off of TSI and the "fillers" from the UYI's but not some of GNR's "best work" imo. The Blues isn't a demo or I would say this is the one exception. The writing and music of this song is an instant classic.
BETTER is a great song as well and is much better than some (filler or TSI) songs that I have heard by old gnr but still pales in comparison to any of the "big" GNR songs. TWAT has moments of greatness but never quite succeeds. IRS is a pretty good song but when compared to songs like Paradise City, WTTJ, Civil War, Estranged (etc..etc...) it is nowhere near the same class...outside of the Blues none are really. Buckethead's contributions took the songs up a notch but if his work is taken from the songs then they automatically lose "the edge". Anyone who doubts this statement should go listen to those demos where Buckethead isn't a part of them. Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: JohnMorrison73 on August 25, 2006, 02:33:23 PM its "new" gnrs best work
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: JohnMorrison73 on August 25, 2006, 02:34:36 PM I agree that "Better" is not nu-metal by any means. Axl's not rapping like Jonathan Davis from Korn or growling like Corey Taylor from Slipknot. It's too insanely catchy and beat-driven to be nu-metal like that. If anything, the juxtaposition of the poppy verses and choruses and the metal-ish middle section remind a little of System of a Down's schizo style fusions with songs. I love "There Was A Time", for me it's like a modern day "Estranged". I love the riff to "Chinese Democracy" and the beauty of "The Blues", and the Beatles-esque flow of "Catcher In The Rye". I love the songs, but final judgement should be reserved for the finished products. Ali u sound like david fricke! Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: robinfinckfan on August 25, 2006, 08:22:18 PM First I think The spahgetti Incident was fucking AWESOME!!
These demos are not gnr's greatest but there good teaser tracks for what's to ( hopefully) come Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: tomass74 on August 27, 2006, 08:49:25 AM Not even close...... From what I have heard anyway....
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: CAFC Nick on August 27, 2006, 02:32:45 PM There was a time ranks up there with WTTJ and NR for the first time I heard it. I was just absolutely amazed by it the first time I heard it. No song has done to me what TWAT did to me in a loooong time.
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: mainline on August 28, 2006, 10:26:49 PM You really can't make that judgement from demos and live performances.
However, from what I've heard, there is a lot of promise there. Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: Communist China on August 28, 2006, 10:29:48 PM The new songs are good. A couple of them would've been highlights on the Illusion albums. But overall, CD does not appear to be equal to AFD, UYI 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: robinfinckfan on August 28, 2006, 10:36:07 PM There was a time ranks up there with WTTJ and NR for the first time I heard it. I was just absolutely amazed by it the first time I heard it. No song has done to me what TWAT did to me in a loooong time. totaly agree with your feelings of there was a time. :yes: Title: Re: Do the "Chinese Demos" stand as some of GN'R's best work? Post by: tomass74 on August 29, 2006, 02:18:17 PM HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :rofl:
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