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Title: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: leo5150 on August 11, 2006, 08:24:04 AM
3 major florida radio stations and 2 new york radio stations  are saying album will be delayed again from november to early next year.they are blaming the recent euro tour for the delay.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Origen on August 11, 2006, 08:25:47 AM
How the hell could a tour (that GnR themselves organised) be responceable for a delay.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: leo5150 on August 11, 2006, 08:32:20 AM
98 rock out of tampa just reported that u.s tour is also delayed.and if you think of it. if the  tour started late sept early oct tickets would be on sale already.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Six Strings on August 11, 2006, 08:33:30 AM
Why are you so damn suprised??? Axl is Axl! Leave him he will bring the CD when he wants to!


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on August 11, 2006, 08:36:07 AM
How about a Fla radio station know when the album is coming out even before axl announces it?
Btw the first date on the USA tour I assume would be the cali date in late sept. So tix can go on sale end of aug for that date and still have a month for sales. They could sell out all the dates in a matter of days if they choose them wisely.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Christos AG on August 11, 2006, 08:43:52 AM
Nothing has been announced.

No dates have been given to the press or the fans.

So how can anything be delayed when you don't know when it will be released?


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Jim Bob on August 11, 2006, 08:44:46 AM
where are they getting their info?   No statement has been released saying anything like that, and the radio isn't going to know about this before it goes on the presswire.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: oneway23 on August 11, 2006, 08:47:48 AM
Why simply a random blurb?  Sounds reminiscent of those "Official" announcements of Outkast's break-up that were being spread throughout various websites and radio stations the other day which then caused them to phone MTV and refute the "news."  Let's see if Inland Invasion gets canned before we wildly speculate.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: babydolls on August 11, 2006, 08:51:36 AM
sounds like they are just trying to whip up a frenzy for when the tour is announced (you heard it here first type thing),

as Christos said - nothing was announced, so how can there be a delay!  we've just had an amazingly successful and comparatively long tour - this has been a great year and will continue to be for Guns one way or another.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: KaptainKuntra on August 11, 2006, 08:54:34 AM
Axl himself said the album would definitely be out this year, in the fall sometime.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: theillusion on August 11, 2006, 08:56:40 AM
Axl Rose promised "Eddie Trunk" on the "Eddie Trunk Show" the new gnr cd "Chinese Democracy" would come out this year in the fall 2006 "absolutely" and now that's a lie. Because officially the jury has a verdict and Axl has been found guilty of "lying" because these other radio stations prove "Axl" is a liar ?:rant:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on August 11, 2006, 09:00:07 AM
how can a SUCCESSFUL european tour be the reason for an album to NOT be released?  :hihi:

it'll come when it comes.. hopefully sometime during my college career hahah  :peace:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: KIKO2K6 on August 11, 2006, 09:00:57 AM
Nothing has been announced.

No dates have been given to the press or the fans.

So how can anything be delayed when you don't know when it will be released?

It ?is ?supost to be release later fall, ?AXl says'' fall, later fall'' so if is not out on later fall is delayed IMO .

We have to wait and see , soon istil the word in the GNR camp. ?:hihi:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Jim Bob on August 11, 2006, 09:01:10 AM
Axl Rose promised "Eddie Trunk" on the "Eddie Trunk Show" the new gnr cd "Chinese Democracy" would come out this year in the fall 2006 "absolutely" and now that's a lie. Because officially the jury has a verdict and Axl has been found guilty of "lying" because these other radio stations prove "Axl" is a liar  :rant:

last time I checked, we still have a little over a month of summer, and then all of the fall season which runs pretty much till the end of the year.    So stop talking shit and lets see how things play out.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Jonx on August 11, 2006, 09:03:51 AM
Things change all the time!

Jonx


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Neemo on August 11, 2006, 09:06:32 AM
nobody knows anything...they are just grasping at straws. that news prolly stems back to the HMV preorder jewelcase shenannegans from a few weeks ago


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Liquid Drum on August 11, 2006, 09:06:54 AM
I hope this is bollocks (prob is, lol).

'Late Fall', could mean anything from august - december.

As long as it comes out at the very, very latest spring 2007, I (and Im sure others) will be happy. I'm sure it'll be with us late nov - mid dec.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Elrothiel on August 11, 2006, 09:07:42 AM
All this is probably just due to the terrorist thing happening in the UK atm... obviously it doesn't mean the US tour WILL be delayed, but there is a slight possibility if Axl can't fly back to the US...

And its just speculation anyway. Fucking negativity... ::)


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: JB9988 on August 11, 2006, 09:08:34 AM
yea fuck the what they say ill wait untill axl says the tour and cd is delayed.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: 2NaFish on August 11, 2006, 09:17:47 AM
delay? surely a delay can only come after an announcement of intent. we've heard mutterings and possibilities but nothing more.

yet again the media are using something incorrect as a fact and then building on it to have a dig. its foundationless.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Christos AG on August 11, 2006, 09:18:58 AM
All this is probably just due to the terrorist thing happening in the UK atm... obviously it doesn't mean the US tour WILL be delayed, but there is a slight possibility if Axl can't fly back to the US...

And its just speculation anyway. Fucking negativity... ::)

Axl is an American citizen. All he has to do is throw his cell and all other electronic devices in his checkin bags and not carry anything else on board besides his passport and his documents and he will fly safely back to the US.

Maybe all of you should stop talking like you actually know what's going on, when none of us has no fuckin idea when the record will come out or when the tour will start...


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: blaqktiger on August 11, 2006, 09:19:53 AM
Exactly what I was going to say!


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Elrothiel on August 11, 2006, 09:33:09 AM
All this is probably just due to the terrorist thing happening in the UK atm... obviously it doesn't mean the US tour WILL be delayed, but there is a slight possibility if Axl can't fly back to the US...

And its just speculation anyway. Fucking negativity... ::)

Axl is an American citizen. All he has to do is throw his cell and all other electronic devices in his checkin bags and not carry anything else on board besides his passport and his documents and he will fly safely back to the US.

Maybe all of you should stop talking like you actually know what's going on, when none of us has no fuckin idea when the record will come out or when the tour will start...

Yes that is true, I was just saying that the people who started this rumor are probably using this as an excuse.

And no I don't know when its gunna come out nor when the tour will start, but all I did was state what I thought...


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Christos AG on August 11, 2006, 09:37:44 AM
Well, ofcourse you stated what you thought.

What I don't understand is why have an endless and useless at the same time discussion when noone here knows shit about the release date or the tour...


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Neemo on August 11, 2006, 09:39:37 AM
Well, ofcourse you stated what you thought.

What I don't understand is why have an endless and useless at the same time discussion when noone here knows shit about the release date or the tour...

exactly Christos....if anybody knows anything about GnR it'll be us forum fans first...and we haven't even heard of a release date so how can it be pushed back? :hihi:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: kyrie on August 11, 2006, 09:39:44 AM
So where'd these radio stations get their info? Any source for this rumor? Sounds to me like another B.S. rumor. There's already a date in late Sept. so how is the tour delayed? The other dates haven't even been announced yet.

Christos, the discussion is because someone reported multiple stations airing this, it shouldn't be all that shocking that people are going to talk about it on the board.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: theillusion on August 11, 2006, 09:41:02 AM
It better not be true 


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Christos AG on August 11, 2006, 09:46:19 AM
Christos, the discussion is because someone reported multiple stations airing this, it shouldn't be all that shocking that people are going to talk about it on the board.

How many times in the past some asshole reporter said something and then a gazillion radio stations and magazines mentioned it later to fans that have no idea if it's the truth or not?

At least the ones who come here know that we've been through this bulshit a thousand times and 99% of them were wrong...


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: gun on August 11, 2006, 09:46:57 AM
So much disappointment in the past few years will spark pessimism very easily but it should not destroy common sense. ?WTF would a few radio stations in Florida be "in the know" and everybody else be in the dark? ?Common sense says this is bullshit. ?When a real announcement comes concerning the release of Chinese Democracy (whether it be good or bad news) EVERYONE and their sisters is going to know it. ?There won't be a "priveledged few" who are in the know.

You know what's funny? ?So many of us are willing to accept shit like this as fact but when we do get a real release date I bet many will speculate that it is lies and isn't going to happen. ?:hihi:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: nesquick on August 11, 2006, 10:06:17 AM
I hope the delay if for re-recording Buckethead's parts  :peace:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: KIKO2K6 on August 11, 2006, 10:10:18 AM
I hope the delay if for re-recording Buckethead's parts.

I hope not , buckethead parts puts the project to another level, I.R.S solo the TWAT outro.  :yes:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on August 11, 2006, 10:11:42 AM
just get that damn thing out there man....


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: makane on August 11, 2006, 10:13:43 AM
I hope the delay if for re-recording Buckethead's parts.
Who would outdo his solos? I don't see any possible way the current guitarists could do those solos any better than Bucket. (not even Richard Fortus)


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: nesquick on August 11, 2006, 10:25:12 AM
His parts sound terrible to me. No need to "re-do" his parts. Just re-write some better stuff instead. Plus he left 2 years+ ago, and his parts already sound outdated. Completely outdated.

Just create something better (and bluesier- with more soul and more feeling in the guitar playing!) instead :peace:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Lord Kayoss on August 11, 2006, 10:27:07 AM
Keep in mind that chump-change radio stations have been pulling Chinese Democracy release dates out their asses for years.? I don't know about the rest of you, but I quickly got in the habit of ignoring anything GN'R related they have to say because it is always bull-shit.

They obviously have no idea when the album is coming out.? They've proven it for years.? Why should we put any faith in them now saying that the album is being delayed?

The media doesn't know anything more about the album than we do.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: kyrie on August 11, 2006, 10:27:46 AM
Christos, the discussion is because someone reported multiple stations airing this, it shouldn't be all that shocking that people are going to talk about it on the board.

How many times in the past some asshole reporter said something and then a gazillion radio stations and magazines mentioned it later to fans that have no idea if it's the truth or not?

At least the ones who come here know that we've been through this bulshit a thousand times and 99% of them were wrong...

They're still gonna talk about it regardless.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: RichardNixon on August 11, 2006, 10:30:39 AM
Whatever happened to Axl's private plane? Axl-Force One?


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: leo5150 on August 11, 2006, 10:42:30 AM
just spoke to my wifes friend.she is a manager for a fye store in ftlauderdale.she said as of wednesday chinese democracy was for nov 13th.but then as of yesterday was pulled from release schedule.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on August 11, 2006, 10:46:46 AM
yea right


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Madagascar88 on August 11, 2006, 10:49:44 AM
the tour is not delayed. it will start in late September as plans.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: benchiefjr on August 11, 2006, 11:02:38 AM
please just get the damn thing out  :rant:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Shirell on August 11, 2006, 11:39:27 AM
You're kidding right?  More delays has to be a joke of the worst kind.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Brody on August 11, 2006, 11:41:55 AM
Nothing has been announced.

No dates have been given to the press or the fans.

So how can anything be delayed when you don't know when it will be released?

You forget there are brothers friends who's third cousins mother is an insider..


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Mandy. on August 11, 2006, 11:48:48 AM
How come everyone is so surprised? With or without the European and US Tour, it's still Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: RancidPunx on August 11, 2006, 11:52:47 AM
Mysteron, someone, please jump in and stop this nonsense. There is no way they will tour the US again without  new product.


Title: Us tour delayed?
Post by: GNFNRAXL on August 11, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
Is the US tour delayed?  I thought it was to to start at the end of September and to the best of my knowledge no date has been announced yet?  Did Axl delay the US tour?


Title: Re: Us tour delayed?
Post by: anythinggoes on August 11, 2006, 12:07:39 PM
the only thing we knew of in america was the show on the 23rd in California the tour was rumoured to Start in September not announced


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Timmy on August 11, 2006, 12:11:47 PM
bullocks


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: pasnow on August 11, 2006, 12:25:13 PM
We have nothing..? We have no release date, no US tour date, no delayed announcement. This album could be released in October, or it could be released in June of 07.. They might tour in the late fall, or next summer. Who knows!!   

Nothing yet.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Bumblefeet on August 11, 2006, 01:16:46 PM
hmv ireland is sayin 13/11/06 aswell!! i dunno about this! it is just shit to stir up more shit......thats a lot of shit! ;D


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Origen on August 11, 2006, 01:19:20 PM
hmv ireland is sayin 13/11/06 aswell!! i dunno about this! it is just shit to stir up more shit......thats a lot of shit! ;D

That's also what HMV said/is saying  :P

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=32741.0


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: leo5150 on August 11, 2006, 01:37:54 PM
well everyone im just going with the information 4 radio stations gave.i hope its bullshit because without new record us tour wont last.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Chief on August 11, 2006, 01:39:15 PM
if there was a widely reported release date at stores we would have known this by now!

just spoke to my wifes friend.she is a manager for a fye store in ftlauderdale.she said as of wednesday chinese democracy was for nov 13th.but then as of yesterday was pulled from release schedule.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: WARose on August 11, 2006, 01:49:40 PM
did anyone except for "leo5150" even hear that on the radio?? ::)

oh yeah.... and your mother works in a record store and CD was scheduled for a november 13th release date....  i call this bullshit dude. there is no set release date right now and never was. until someone, i consider remotely reliable, heard this as well i don`t even believe it was said on the radio.....there are 2 or 3 storys in this thread claiming the release date got postponed and those are all sourced from one guy : ok:

and @ the illusion: why are you always whining?? wait for two months and if nothing happened until then you may continue :peace:




Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: codenameninja on August 11, 2006, 01:54:35 PM
Part of me really belived that CD was coming out in either September or November 2006. Part of me also wonders if there are enough tracks recorded for the album. During the recent tour GnR didn't have more than a few new tracks to play (not including the previously played The Blues and Madagascar). Even then they did not always play them.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: codenameninja on August 11, 2006, 01:57:05 PM
I hope the delay if for re-recording Buckethead's parts  :peace:

I want to hear the studio recordings of the new material complete with Buckethead on them  :beer:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Mandy. on August 11, 2006, 02:01:49 PM
Re-recording BH's parts is the worst thing that could happen.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Niko on August 11, 2006, 02:02:41 PM
did anyone except for "leo5150" even hear that on the radio?? ::)

oh yeah.... and your mother works in a record store and CD was scheduled for a november 13th release date....? i call this bullshit dude. there is no set release date right now and never was. until someone, i consider remotely reliable, heard this as well i don`t even believe it was said on the radio.....there are 2 or 3 storys in this thread claiming the release date got postponed and those are all sourced from one guy : ok:

and @ the illusion: why are you always whining?? wait for two months and if nothing happened until then you may continue :peace:




finally someone is thinking in this thread!!


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Pingouirose on August 11, 2006, 02:15:24 PM
His parts sound terrible to me. No need to "re-do" his parts. Just re-write some better stuff instead. Plus he left 2 years+ ago, and his parts already sound outdated. Completely outdated.

Just create something better (and bluesier- with more soul and more feeling in the guitar playing!) instead :peace:

ron said that's too late for re-recording, and I don't understand your 'outdated' theory ?  :confused: Judging by demos ? (whose many fans agree to say BH solos kick ass)

Quote from: nesquick
Just re-write some better stuff instead.
Quote from: nesquick
Just create something better.

I think you should start your own band man  :yes:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: estranged.1098 on August 11, 2006, 02:17:51 PM
I hope the delay if for re-recording Buckethead's parts  :peace:

He's also gonna change the lyrics in IRS, from "Like a broken record for so long" to "Like nesquick for so long".  :hihi:



Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: makane on August 11, 2006, 02:21:29 PM
His parts sound terrible to me. No need to "re-do" his parts. Just re-write some better stuff instead. Plus he left 2 years+ ago, and his parts already sound outdated. Completely outdated.

Just create something better (and bluesier- with more soul and more feeling in the guitar playing!) instead :peace:
Mostly I think they should just chop some of the stuff. .ie the bridge shreds in "Better" and some others shred parts.
Though I really like TWAT and IRS solos.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Mysteron on August 11, 2006, 02:28:38 PM
There is no truth to this


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Christos AG on August 11, 2006, 02:31:14 PM
There is no truth to this

And yes, he's finally back to stop the madness and save the day.

Well, you can all go back home safely now...


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: benchiefjr on August 11, 2006, 02:32:57 PM
There is no truth to this
thank you


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Scabbie on August 11, 2006, 02:36:38 PM
There is no truth to this

I'm looking forward to the album in late fall then!  : ok:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: WhatIsItMan on August 11, 2006, 02:38:39 PM
I'm gonna buy at least 2 copies of CD.  One to play, and one to take all my frustrations out, and smash the shit out of it!


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: codenameninja on August 11, 2006, 02:52:42 PM
I'm gonna buy at least 2 copies of CD.  One to play, and one to take all my frustrations out, and smash the shit out of it!

I'll download it first just to make sure i like the album. I'll be pretty pissed off to hear CD only to like what has been leaked so far  + some filler tracks or worse still 'cover songs'. If on the other hand i am pleasantly surprized and blown away by a stack of new tracks that i have not yet heard i'll buy it  ;D


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: PrettyTiedUp763 on August 11, 2006, 02:55:21 PM
I think that some of these radio stations appear to know more than Axl himself.  :rant:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: brock on August 11, 2006, 02:56:26 PM
i think this thread should be locked and destroyed...as its clearly a bunch of bullshit.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: bazgnr on August 11, 2006, 02:59:36 PM
There is no truth to this

So very nice to hear from you....thanks.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: NicoRourke on August 11, 2006, 03:00:16 PM
Thankx Mysteron.

I swear to God, the day I'll hold a copy of CD in my hands, no one will take it away from me. Too much years, stress and frustrations ...

 :beer:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: the dirt on August 11, 2006, 03:13:47 PM
There is no truth to this

So very nice to hear from you....thanks.

So if there's no truth to this........ why are you all so happy? Nothing's been confirmed yet anyways.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: benchiefjr on August 11, 2006, 03:24:41 PM
There is no truth to this

So very nice to hear from you....thanks.

So if there's no truth to this........ why are you all so happy? Nothing's been confirmed yet anyways.
because i think its better to know its not delayed right now  :-\


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Lord Kayoss on August 11, 2006, 03:33:16 PM
Did we really need Mysteron to come in here and shoot this thing down?

It was a crappy radio station.  They've been 100% wrong about Axl/GN'R for the better part of 10 years.

Come on people, quit being so naive.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: benchiefjr on August 11, 2006, 03:33:52 PM
no...but it helps  :rofl:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: BLS-Pride on August 11, 2006, 03:37:56 PM
I'm gonna buy at least 2 copies of CD.  One to play, and one to take all my frustrations out, and smash the shit out of it!

Im burning one, running one over, and then shooting on.. PULL!!!


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Journeyman on August 11, 2006, 03:40:25 PM
Did we really need Mysteron to come in here and shoot this thing down?

It was a crappy radio station.? They've been 100% wrong about Axl/GN'R for the better part of 10 years.

Come on people, quit being so naive.

I agree with you!

And thanks Mysteron...some people need your word to keep their demons down


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on August 11, 2006, 03:46:42 PM
The guy's been true to his word in 06' thus far

I'll refrain from believing any of this untill it comes from the horse's mouth


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Steel_Angel on August 11, 2006, 03:47:17 PM
There is no truth to this
thanx babe.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: DunkinDave on August 11, 2006, 03:48:15 PM
The guy's been true to his word in 06' thus far

Who?


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: codenameninja on August 11, 2006, 03:53:43 PM
THIS THREAD IS BS  :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on August 11, 2006, 03:54:38 PM
The guy's been true to his word in 06' thus far

Who?


W.Axl Rose


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: ppbebe on August 11, 2006, 04:20:23 PM
Quote
Who?

The rising dragon from indiana?  omens the avent of an extraordinary phenomenon. ;)

can someone add "false" to the thread title? In case any of us has heart trouble.


Title: Re: chinese democracy delayed yet again
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on August 11, 2006, 06:01:33 PM
< I just had the big one.  :nervous: