Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This is a view Ive heard expressed a fair few times yet rarely discussed.

Personally, I dont. Its likely CD will be awesome, but to most of the world GNR is a joke. I think no matter how awesome CD is (and how high it sells) it wont be taken seriously where it counts.

EDIT: Also, its very rare that comeback albums make a difference to the course of RnR. The only one I can think of making a lasting impact was the reformed ACDC.

Its almost always the new blood that revolutionises things - like GNR were back in the day.

The only thing that will save the rock n' roll world is reunion.

AND NO, I DON'T HATE THE NEW BAND!!!

no it wouldn't.   Honestly theres nothing that can 'save rock'.   No reunion or CD is going to do that, times are different.

My opinion though...you'll see if it happens... :beer:

Why does rock needs to be saved? IMO it's pretty clear there's still a lot of rock going on and it keeps evolving. That it's no longer topping the charts does not mean it's dead. Like Jim Bob says, times are different and more musical styles have taken over the charts now. No way rock is dead and yes way CD WILL ROCK!

Plenty of albums rock but it takes a whole lot more than that to make the kind of splash needed to bring rock back to the top. Needs to be the right people, at the right time with the right music. I dont think CD has that explosive combination needed. Not to say it wont be a good album, but theres more to it than just that ...

Rock is alive, its just a little harder to find it!

I dont think CD will change anything. I just hope its a great album in its own right.

no reunion sucks
old gnr were great,the best band in 80 and early 90,but new time bring new people

The entire world has changed now, no one album or one band is going to change it imo. Rock N Roll is dead, it's all hip hop/rap now.

Sure not, perhaps it will make GNR the respected band they were (or even more) and bring them back to the top. But not like it has been in the past (filling stadiums), as the world is much more diverse now.

I just don't get this "save rock" crap.

There is a wealth of good bands out there, try looking further than the top 40 pop charts.

Some of the best music I have heard in recent years comes from bands that dont even chart, dont even make videos etc.

There is a vast spectrum of rock music out there, go and look for it. Try the other bands and artists section of this site to see what other folk listen to and recommend.

Save rock? Bah, give some kind of credability to the pop charts more like. :P Its a crock.

If Nirvana can change the music direction in the early 90' until now. Why not Gn'R?
in the 90'.no one expect a band like Nirvana can do that.

What was changed back then that we can still notice nowadays and how might CD change things as they are now?

the rock n roll classic 80's sound will come back around, everything goes in cycles

Did nirvana "save rock"? when and how was rock saved by a band last time? ???

like others said, there're many fresh and interesting bands.

There's nothing to save.

The "rock" that was when GNR started in 1985/6, that's dead. Plus all the other musical styles that were contemporary of the same era are dead. I'm 34. Trust me, it's all dead. Just like my elders said that their rock (60s and 70s rock) was dead in the 80s (and I very much agreed with them, because all that crap deserved to die-except bands like the Stooges, the MC5, the Dolls, Big Star-that stuff is IMMORTAL).

All the basic things killed it. The internet, crass media commercialism, terrorism. ESPECIALLY the internet. Now, there's no secrets, no organic growth.

CD will only be a symbol of Axl and his independence (cue "Vanishing Point" monologue from "Breakdown" on UYI2 here). With nothing to save, there's nothing to prove.

i love it how these so-called "fans" call gnr is a joke by claiming "the world" thinks so.

yup,every days there's a fresh new bands with top charts single.and everyone love their easy listening-song.but in a months they're forgotten.only a few can survive.

Aren't things pop/musical always like that? in the 80s, 90s or now.

I was talking about the bands you rarely see on the charts, but o well.

I don't really know what terrorism has done to kill rock music, but I agree about the internet.  Its good for unknown bands (such as mine, plug, plug) getting exposure but that's about it.

Rock doesn't need saving, as long as there are people (usually males, lets be honest) with long hair, fire in their soul and a loud guitar we'll have rock n roll.

i dont think any band can "save" rock. Only you and me can... by buying theyr cd`s... Rock will never die.. it has always been strong.. its just the music industi that is fucked up... Rock and metal will always be big, and never dissaper..

there are a lot of really great bands out there. Alltough they don't have the same inpact as 80's band.

Chinese democracy wont save rock n' roll but it will as said before put them back on top of todays rock scene.

why do people say that rock needs to be saved?  there is A LOT of good new music out there.  and i'm not talking about most of the stuff you hear on the major radio stations or mtv.  my understanding is that most of the people here are looking for gn'r to "save music" by sparking some gn'r rip-off bands.  that's probably not what you want.  if you want to hear good new music, there is a ton of unique and amazing music in the current alternative scene (most of the bands featured in the coachella and lollapalooza festivals, for example).  if you're not into that and want to see 80s rock make a comeback.... then listen to your old ratt and van halen cds.  cause that shit's not coming back.  i hate hearing people bitch about their favorite bands from 15+ years ago "saving rock".  if you want new music that's imitating what rock used to be, then listen to jet and the darkness.  i wouldn't say either of those bands have done anything to "save rock" though.

Well put, nytunz :D
Yay, that's the advantage of popular music.  It's up to us
and shouldn't be kept under the thumb of the industy or the media.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

CD wont save anything, gimme a break!

it won't save rock n roll, mainly because rock n roll doesn't need saving.

the problem people have is that rock n roll changes, and people don't like the way it's changed. that doesn't mean it needs saving.

fuck if you want to be pedantic rock n roll is chuck berry and anything that sounds like chuck berry.

The future belongs to Avenged Sevenfold. Deal with it.

 :drool:

Avenged Sevenfold??? Music can be an ugly thing kids. In this band?s case, it?s so vile and disgusting that it?s on par with animal rape, and finger-banging your Aunt Marcy?s poopshoot. Avenged Sevenfold is the Limp Bizkit of the screamo/metal-core/Warped Tour world In the 80's, if you liked ?metal? you had to choose a side. You were either down with the heavy shit like Slayer and Metallica, or you inhaled dicks while wearing spandex and listening to Poison and Winger. These dudes are the Poison of modern rock, but without all the record sales and arenas full of people. 110% cheeseball posers with choreographed rock moves, ridiculous ?spooky? stage names, fake ass strippers (even though the dipshit jock pseudo-goth singer?s girlfriend is their tour manager. Yeah bro, that?s about as rock n? roll as bringing your sister on tour you ass pro. How are your ?bros? gonna fuck the 14-year-old Warped Tour cum-pits that you dudes inebriate and wrestle onto your bus with your coat-rack around? Haven?t you ever heard the expression ?Don?t bring sand to the beach??), smoke machines and poser lights at outdoor concerts, vintage cowboy/biker/truckstop clothes, and shitty makeup via the same cocksmoke manager that brought us Disturbed. Thanks but no thanks. Did I mention these dudes think ?St. Anger? is a ?killer? Metallica record, and that the bass player gets drunk and sucks off the guitarist, or are those just ?tour secrets?? Ooops. Seriously, if you like this fucking band you should seek therapy and check out this thing called sexual activity. It rules.

Oh my God, Ive never read anything as aggressive as that in my whole life  :rofl: You must really hate the band as well as Poison and Limp Bizkit :rofl: :rofl: Thatll have me laughing for days.

Ive never heard A7X yet - cant seem to find their stuff in Australia and havent d/led them.

lol i was only kidding about Avenged. chill  :rant:

in reply to the topic title...no :no: Rock need a young new face to do that

Nothing to do with the group, but it won't.

how can a band that dont play rock n roll bring it back. (on reference to nugnr)

The only thing that stands to save rock, and popular music in general, is the fall of the RIAA. It should be obvious to anyone who pays attention that bands don't get discovered by playing in clubs anymore - they're picked to conform to an industry quota of a particular image. That's why there is no LA Sunset strip, CBGB's, or Seattle that every band is gettign signed frrom right now. The only exceptions to this are in the indie scene, and most people don't know about that stuff because it's not promoted by Clear Channel or MTV.

volcomstone you clearly don't have a fucking clue about the current music scene.

comparing avenged sevenfolds to the glam rock of the past.

1. avenged sevenfold play metal, not emo/screamo/hardcore

2. the current equivalent to te 80's glam scene would be the emo/screamo/hardcore bands. thus avenged sevenfold would be the equivalent to the metallica/slayer style bands of the 80's not the equivalent to poison.

just for the hell of carrying on. metallica and gnr personally asked avenged sevenfold to tour with them in europe. avenged sevenfold are not playing the warped tour, they're doing the ozzfest tour, you know where the metal bands go. so please stop with your bullshit, uninformed posts.

hahaha... i had no idea anyone actually took avenged sevenfold that seriously

I plan to save rock n roll. Just give me some time.

The entire rant that you posted earlier was taken from: http://www.buddyhead.com/music/bestof2005/. My opinion on Avenged Sevenfold aside, I know of someone who shouldn't be taken seriously...

It is not even sure that CD will be a 'rock 'n' roll' record... :hihi:

Nothing will save rock adn roll, music has changed so much, it'll have brief periods of good times, but nothing like the 80's metal or the early 90's grunge

for you, it won't.  that's because you're nostalgic for 80's metal and early 90's grunge.  different people like different musical eras.  personally, i like the current music scene better than anything else.

I'm not so sure, people talk about the 80s being halcyon days for rock music, but was that not when the charts were ruled by Duran Duran, Culture Club, Abba, Run DMC, Bryan Adams etc?   In the 80s rock fans probably harped back to the good ol' 70s, a decade in which rock fans complained about Bootsy Colllins, soul and Wings style stadium pop and wished they lived in the 60s.  You get my picture?

it won't save rock n roll has that does'nt need saved but it will put g n r back at the top of the rock world :hihi: :beer:

exactly gargh... although i'm more a fan of current alternative and indie music, i have to say that today's pop music is 1000x more listenable than that shit that owned the charts in the 70s and 80s.  Yeah those eras had some good rock music, but there was a lot of really really bad music too.  With just about everything, people remember what they want to remember and thus see the past as something better than the present.

Are you standing up for today's pop music because Fortus played with N'Sync and Nena ? :hihi:

the question was will it bring back rock, and it won't.. Those two eras were the last big movements in rock.. One band today one it's last leg is not going to save rock and roll.. You need an album anyways

the 50's and 60's were big for rock n roll?  most would consider elvis, chuck berry, the beatles, and woodstock to be very important.  in fact, a lot of people would consider most 80's music an embarrassment to music in general.  that isn't to say there were a lot of good bands in that era.  my point is, in 10-15 years people will be saying, "man, music just isn't as good as it was ten years ago".

Chinese Democracy will save rock n' roll about as much as Green Day saved it with American Idiot...  ::)

for me.....................it already has!!!!!

if it is as good as im expecting it to be yes

people really are dreaming.. even if cd is very solid it won't "save" ANYTHING .. I saw AI mentioned by green day.. Kind of had it's big year, saved them at least, but now it's like whatever,,, What afd did in 87-88 is highly unlikely to happen for rock in 06.. Age, new band same name, the fact the era is over with guns n roses are all things that weren't the case back when gnr was new.. The world fell in love with original gnr now it's just the tail end of their fame from the past that the new is living off.. Back then it took the band to make afd and hitt he world hard, everyone loved diferent members, guitar rock plus great vocals... Now we have a gnr that could have been done by anybody plus axl and the name and it would have done the same.. That is carry over love from the past.. I know people just think everyone lovews the new band, it's more they love axl, love the gnr name, and love those classic tunes

It won't "save" rock n roll ..... i think the record will be good and sell alot of copies .... but i think the media gonna give it very bad reviews .......