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Title: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 31, 2006, 07:29:23 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/31/gibson.dui/index.html

I didn't see this coming...... :no:


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: BigCombo on July 31, 2006, 08:11:32 PM
Gotta love the anti-jewish tirade...


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Mom on July 31, 2006, 08:36:26 PM
I had to laugh at this a bit, I mean you get pulled over by the cops for DUI and you just out of the blue rip into the Jews? lol the fuck does that have to do with the situation at the moment?


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: nesquick on July 31, 2006, 08:43:06 PM
Gotta love the anti-jewish tirade...

Is there a moderator around here?


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: 2NaFish on August 01, 2006, 10:27:47 AM
damn, he even looks good in his booking photo.

damn movie stars.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Danny Top Hat on August 01, 2006, 10:35:34 AM
Gotta love the anti-jewish tirade...

Is there a moderator around here?

I took it as sarcasm, but then I am a really shit moderator.  Hopefully Jim will arrive shortly and tidy up for me...


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Mandy. on August 01, 2006, 10:58:24 AM
Gotta love the anti-jewish tirade...

Not really... I thought it was rude and ridiculous.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Rockin' Rose on August 01, 2006, 11:00:50 AM
damn, he even looks good in his booking photo.

damn movie stars.


(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/31/gibson.dui/vert.gibson.lasd.jpg)

Yeah but they get special treatment..



(http://www.absolutecelebrities.com/i/mugshot/NolteNick.jpg)

The stars I mean


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Sin Cut on August 01, 2006, 11:01:35 AM
damn, he even looks good in his booking photo.

damn movie stars.
who smiling in his booking photo? really?


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 01, 2006, 01:35:01 PM
People are people.........


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: NicoRourke on August 01, 2006, 02:46:34 PM
Shit ... I want Mad Max 4 damn it !

I'm really disapointed by those comments from an actor I like ...


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: IndiannaRose on August 01, 2006, 04:36:48 PM
Gotta love the anti-jewish tirade...

Is there a moderator around here?
Ummm....dude, it's sarcasm.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Izzy on August 01, 2006, 05:16:16 PM
The jewish comments claim - obviously an attempt to kick him when he's down

Passion of the Christ wasn't anti-semitic, but try telling that to America's religious extremists - its the oldest trick in the book, as long as you repeat something often enough u'll get people to believe it i.e Iraq had WMD's.....


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 01, 2006, 05:45:56 PM
I hope he gets the help he needs.

We all make mistakes.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: RichardNixon on August 01, 2006, 06:19:37 PM
The jewish comments claim - obviously an attempt to kick him when he's down


No he said them.

MEL SAYS SORRY TO THE JEWS
Tue Aug 01 2006 11:10:45 ET

August 2, 2006 -- There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who thinks or expresses any kind of Anti-Semitic remark. I want to apologize specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and harmful words that I said to a law enforcement officer the night I was arrested on a DUI charge.

I am a public person, and when I say something, either articulated and thought out, or blurted out in a moment of insanity, my words carry weight in the public arena. As a result, I must assume personal responsibility for my words and apologize directly to those who have been hurt and offended by those words.

The tenets of what I profess to believe necessitate that I exercise charity and tolerance as a way of life. Every human being is God?s child, and if I wish to honor my God I have to honor his children. But please know from my heart that I am not an anti-Semite. I am not a bigot. Hatred of any kind goes against my faith.

I?m not just asking for forgiveness. I would like to take it one step further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one on one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing.

I have begun an ongoing program of recovery and what I am now realizing is that I cannot do it alone. I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came from during that drunken display, and I am asking the Jewish community, whom I have personally offended, to help me on my journey through recovery. Again, I am reaching out to the Jewish community for its help. I know there will be many in that community who will want nothing to do with me, and that would be understandable. But I pray that that door is not forever closed.

This is not about a film. Nor is it about artistic license. This is about real life and recognizing the consequences hurtful words can have. It?s about existing in harmony in a world that seems to have gone mad.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Mandy. on August 01, 2006, 06:26:40 PM
He gets more ridiculous by the second.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Danny Top Hat on August 01, 2006, 06:57:35 PM
Well, that's a very good response but when words are scripted how can you tell if they're genuine? :-\

Why am I posting in this thread?  I don't care what Mel Gibson thinks.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on August 01, 2006, 07:43:13 PM
Let me preface this by saying I have not seen The Passion of the Christ.  It doesn't look like a movie I'd enjoy.

I have seen a story on tv that showed his dad is an anti-Semite and believes or did believe that the Holocaust didn't happen or didn't happen to the extent competent historians agree upon.

I have also read an article on-line a while back that spoke of his belief that if you don't accept Jesus christ as your lord and savior, you're going to hell when you die. 

Now I see this news story.  What he did was so fucking unacceptable it's almost laughable.  His blood alcohol is only .12 and he's ranting about Jews?  This guy is one sick fuck.  It's not like he was being some kind of jack-ass making bad jokes that didn't go over well.  This is a sick fuck, and not because of the alcohol.  It's going to be interesting when the full report gets released. 

I just love laughing at all the fucking hypocrites.  I'm gonna play some AC/DC for Mel tonight..."Have a Drink on Me!"  ya f'in bigot.   :-* 


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Mom on August 01, 2006, 08:10:36 PM
Maybe Mel should give Axl a call on how to deal with this kind of thing. Of course slurs in "One In A Million" had an artistic basis. It's not like Axl got pulled over and asked the cop "Are you a nigger? Than get out of my way..."


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on August 01, 2006, 08:18:12 PM
Maybe Mel should give Axl a call on how to deal with this kind of thing. Of course slurs in "One In A Million" had an artistic basis. It's not like Axl got pulled over and asked the cop "Are you a nigger? Than get out of my way..."


That's my point. ?If you look at Axl's history, it seems he has a problem with authority figures, not minorities. ?For heaven's sake, don't show Axl your badge! ?With Mel, it's completely different. ?He's a hateful little man. ?I'm not Jewish, never have been, but damn, he's one warped individual. ?Please, has any "non-anti-Semite" ever lashed out at Jews after being pulled over for DWI??? ?I wonder if there was a drug-tox analysis conducted. ?Maybe that would help explain (not justify) his hateful and moronic ramblings. ? ???


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: johnnythunders24 on August 01, 2006, 09:28:22 PM
oh well...if he makes another braveheart ill forgive him...but really...if they released tapes of my arrests id be much worse off


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 01, 2006, 09:53:06 PM
My aunt told me he had already been in rehab once in the 90's.  :-\

He's gonna be blacklisted in Hollywood for his comments...

One time is pretty good for a substance abuse, it can be a revolving door for some people.

He won't get blacklisted, he'll be just fine. Money is the name of the game in Hollywood. Studios are not going to turn away this guy (and the money his name brings in) to make a point. They only answer to one god: money.

They also said the same thing about Robert Downey Jr, and he was working while in jail/rehab.



Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Mom on August 01, 2006, 10:55:25 PM
A friend of mine who's Jewish was buying me beers at a bar today. I told him if I got pulled over I'd just say "Fucking Jews, the Jews are responsible for all the beers I drank today." I wonder if the officer would have appreciated the humor in that case...


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on August 01, 2006, 11:01:09 PM
Mel Gibson's apology is pathetic. ?His ranting is the sign of a person who is really out of touch. ?The jews start all the wars? ?So I guess that includes WWII? ?Dumb fuck. ?Its funny how this incident just goes to show that the anti-semetic overtones to the Passion were indeed there and not just something conjured up by the "jewish left wing media". ?I don't give a fuck how drunk you are. ?If you say shit like that when you're drunk, then you think it and probably talk that way in private too when you're not sober. ?It dissapoints me because I love the Lethal Weapon movies and Braveheart.



Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Slashead on August 02, 2006, 12:57:23 AM
I saw The Passion Of Christ. Thought it was anti-Semitic and bigot.
This story provides confirmation.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 02, 2006, 01:48:22 AM
I saw The Passion Of Christ. Thought it was anti-Semitic and bigot.
This story provides confirmation.

Hardly.........


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Mal Brossard on August 02, 2006, 02:01:46 AM
I also saw that snuff film about Jesus.  I didn't find it to be anti-Semitic as much as it was just grossly overdone.

That being said, Gibson's anti-Semitism wouldn't surprise me at all if the remarks about his father are true.  I know a lot of people were decrying the potential anti-Semitism in the movie.  I for one didn't sense it as being there on a heavy basis (I believe the Romans are more responsible than the Jews for the crucifixion, a point that has repeatedly been debated in history, but saw the movie as depicting it as closer to 50/50, perhaps leaning toward the Jews a bit).


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Slashead on August 02, 2006, 07:08:22 AM
I saw The Passion Of Christ. Thought it was anti-Semitic and bigot.
This story provides confirmation.

Hardly.........
If you're blind, want to live in denial or act as if anti-Semitism doesn't exist anymore, it's your problem, not mine.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Megaguns on August 02, 2006, 08:15:19 AM
They did a skit of him getting dui on a tv show.
He gets out of the car dressed as braveheart and screams, YOU CAN TAKE MY LICENSE BUT YOU WILL NEVER TAKE MY TECQUILA!!!


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 02, 2006, 12:06:19 PM
I saw The Passion Of Christ. Thought it was anti-Semitic and bigot.
This story provides confirmation.

Hardly.........
If you're blind, want to live in denial or act as if anti-Semitism doesn't exist anymore, it's your problem, not mine.


Zzzzzz...................


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Sakib on August 02, 2006, 12:26:28 PM
if true, the comments are pathetic


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Mom on August 02, 2006, 02:30:11 PM
I'm not a Christian, but even if you are and you think "The Jews Killed Christ" I don't see why you would hate Jews over it. I mean Jesus (the guy your worshipping) was a Jew, so it was Jew on Jew violence.

It's like saying "I hate the blacks." "Why?" "Because they killed Tupac, man he was the best." True but it misses the bigger picture...


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 02, 2006, 02:44:00 PM
Nobody here has done anything outrageous while drunk?

I have heard it all, and seen it all. Do you really want me to believe that what a person does when they are drunk is just the truth coming out? Drunks calling their wives sluts, and pissing themselves while driving down the street is a true reflection of their spouses and where they prefer to use the restroom?

Yea right.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: GeorgeSteele on August 02, 2006, 03:01:23 PM
Nobody here has done anything outrageous while drunk?

I have heard it all, and seen it all. Do you really want me to believe that what a person does when they are drunk is just the truth coming out? Drunks calling their wives sluts, and pissing themselves while driving down the street is a true reflection of their spouses and where they prefer to use the restroom?

Yea right.

Fair point, but in the Lethal Weapon's case, the drunk comments revealed what everyone suspected of him to begin with.  In contrast, if he had inexplicably ripped into Greeks, we'd be more likely to write it off to drunken ramblings.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: axlrosegnr on August 02, 2006, 04:54:59 PM
I hate that people care so much about this.....first the DUI....whoopie...DUI is a pretty damn common thing, give it a rest already....next, the jew thing....who gives a shit if he really does or does not hate jews. I could give a shit less if someone is the most racist person in the world, I could also give a shit less if some racist hated me more than anything in the world


btw....the leathal weapon movies rocked


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Drew on August 02, 2006, 05:43:41 PM
The guy apologized people. Move on! This world is so full of people who want to complain and complain and complain to the extreme because they were called something that hurt their feelings. These people need to grow up and not whine and moan and cry if someone calls them a name. :rant: :rant: :rant:


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: journey on August 02, 2006, 05:54:09 PM
I agree Drew.

But the Jewish people have been through a lot. It bothers me when they're attacked on any level.

With all things considered, Mel Gibson is an actor, not a world leader. His words don't determine anything in that regard. Plus he was drunk. I've been around drunk people my whole life -- they say and do stupid things and later regret them.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: mikegiuliana on August 02, 2006, 06:43:08 PM
People are up his ass to no end, he's just a drunk fucking actor who spoke his mind.. I don't care if he likes jews or not, everyone is like way into this shit, jews want apologies, they want him to meet with jewish leaders.. WHY?? He's just a fucking actor who gives a fuck.. he doesn't like jews, boo hoo, who gives a fuck... We get so involved into their lives...


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on August 02, 2006, 07:01:37 PM
People are up his ass to no end, he's just a drunk fucking actor who spoke his mind.. I don't care if he likes jews or not, everyone is like way into this shit, jews want apologies, they want him to meet with jewish leaders.. WHY?? He's just a fucking actor who gives a fuck.. he doesn't like jews, boo hoo, who gives a fuck... We get so involved into their lives...

Any famous or even semi-famous person that gets caught spewing any type of bigotry is going to make the headlines.  What makes this more newsworthy is that it comes relatively soon after the contraversy of the Passion.  Plus he's got Disney's Apocolypto coming out soon.  They must be thrilled about this.  The ironic part is that Walt Disney himself was a bigot! 

I agree that we shouldn't care what an actor thinks, its not as if he has any real power.  But the incident makes the anti-semetic view of the Passion that much more credible, and that movie has been seen by hundreds of millions. 

At the end of the day, I don't think he needs to apologize to anyone.  Won't make a difference at this point because its obvious that he's just trying to save face.  But it does bother me, as a jew, that someone I once admired is an anti-semite.  We're not the most well liked people in the world, so jews tend to be a bit sensative when it comes to this.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on August 02, 2006, 07:58:10 PM
The guy apologized people. Move on! This world is so full of people who want to complain and complain and complain to the extreme because they were called something that hurt their feelings. These people need to grow up and not whine and moan and cry if someone calls them a name. :rant: :rant: :rant:


Drew, that's the weird part about this from what I understand.  He didn't just use a derogatory name.  Let's say for instance, the arresting officer was black and he used the word ni&ger, or she was a lesbian and he said d!ke, or a Hispanic and he said sp!c, or a Jewish person and he said k!ke.  All are terrible...but if drunk I could see someone using them due to the alcohol's effects on inhibitions.

From what I understand though, he went on some rant about Jews starting wars?!?!?  I'm sure there's going to be some other ridiculous crap when this really hits the fan.  I have probably been in the .2 to .3 blood alcohol level in my life many times (most in my college days or at weddings) and I've never said shit this crazy.  I'm sorry, an alcoholic at .12 doesn't say anything different than an alcoholic does without a drink. 

Mel's apple didn't fall far from his father's tree, which believed the Holocaust didn't happen.   :(


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: BigCombo on August 02, 2006, 08:12:59 PM
There's an old latin expression.... In vino, veritas


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on August 02, 2006, 08:14:01 PM
There's an old latin expression.... In vino, veritas

I never took Latin...is it "in wine, truth." ???


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: journey on August 02, 2006, 08:15:55 PM
?There is truth in wine.?


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on August 02, 2006, 08:25:39 PM
?There is truth in wine.?


thank you.  yeah, I'd say that's pretty much true.  :yes:


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 02, 2006, 10:56:16 PM
?There is truth in wine.?


thank you.  yeah, I'd say that's pretty much true.  :yes:

Than anything you have ever said drunk would serve as the standard by which you would prefer to live. I don't buy it for a minute.

Anyway, it's another loud mouth drunk who got a DUI. He already said he was sorry and is working on getting sober. Our joke show of a media are the ones who are making this front page news.


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Slashead on August 03, 2006, 01:50:46 AM

Than anything you have ever said drunk would serve as the standard by which you would prefer to live. I don't buy it for a minute.

Anyway, it's another loud mouth drunk who got a DUI. He already said he was sorry and is working on getting sober. Our joke show of a media are the ones who are making this front page news.
Quite funny to see those lefty anti-Zionists standing up for a right-wing anti-Semite bigot...
Is this a new Covenant ? :hihi:


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on August 03, 2006, 07:19:42 AM

Than anything you have ever said drunk would serve as the standard by which you would prefer to live. I don't buy it for a minute.

Anyway, it's another loud mouth drunk who got a DUI. He already said he was sorry and is working on getting sober. Our joke show of a media are the ones who are making this front page news.
Quite funny to see those lefty anti-Zionists standing up for a right-wing anti-Semite bigot...
Is this a new Covenant ? :hihi:

those certainly are strange bedfellows, eh?   :hihi:   
To those who think it's just some drunk spouting off random thoughts, I think you're wrong.  Go blow a .12 and tell me you're going to start randomly ranting about Jews!???  WTF???
It aint normal.  I'm sorry.  What an idiot.   :(


Title: Re: Mel Gibson's Troubles
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 03, 2006, 11:26:53 AM

Than anything you have ever said drunk would serve as the standard by which you would prefer to live. I don't buy it for a minute.

Anyway, it's another loud mouth drunk who got a DUI. He already said he was sorry and is working on getting sober. Our joke show of a media are the ones who are making this front page news.
Quite funny to see those lefty anti-Zionists standing up for a right-wing anti-Semite bigot...
Is this a new Covenant ? :hihi:

those certainly are strange bedfellows, eh?   :hihi:   
To those who think it's just some drunk spouting off random thoughts, I think you're wrong.  Go blow a .12 and tell me you're going to start randomly ranting about Jews!???  WTF???
It aint normal.  I'm sorry.  What an idiot.   :(

Everybody here is intelligent enough to understand the alcohol effects us all differently. You learn that when you are about 14 yrs old..............



Quite funny to see those lefty anti-Zionists standing up for a right-wing anti-Semite bigot...
Is this a new Covenant ? :hihi:

Guess you have never done anything insanely stupid while drunk? If you have, would you expect everybody to judge  you merely on that one episode?