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Title: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Chief on July 30, 2006, 10:24:43 PM
Just wanted to give a shout out to Frank and what a great job he did with Guns filling in for Brain. He totally kicked ass! I definitely would check him out in the future whatever band he is in.   :beer:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Jim Bob on July 30, 2006, 10:27:22 PM
Frank rocks  ;D   Great drummer.  I wouldn't be upset if he toured in the states with the band.   I still like Brain too,  Axl can't go wrong with whoever ends up on tour in the US.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: MarioGunner on July 30, 2006, 10:28:23 PM
I bet that if he was in another band you wouldn?t even see him or notice him.? :rofl:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: mrgnrdvd on July 30, 2006, 10:28:41 PM
Keep Frank and get rid of Finck and we may have something


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: yorch on July 30, 2006, 10:30:46 PM
Keep Frank and get rid of Finck and we may have something


i agree with you, i think the band is awesome now and would be even better if that happened


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: mrgnrdvd on July 30, 2006, 10:32:32 PM
I don't see what people see in Finck


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Niko on July 30, 2006, 10:36:47 PM
Keep Frank and get rid of Finck and we may have something


i agree with you, i think the band is awesome now and would be even better if that happened

100% agree


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 30, 2006, 11:04:26 PM
Frank is a part of the show...Brain is just there to get his check...


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Top-Hatted One on July 30, 2006, 11:05:52 PM
Brain is a world-class drummer. Frank did a hell of a job filling in


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Communist China on July 30, 2006, 11:29:20 PM
Frank is a part of the show...Brain is just there to get his check...

If Brain just wanted money he'd pick a more stable job than being GN'R's drummer.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: bazgnr on July 30, 2006, 11:31:13 PM
I don't see what people see in Finck

Have you seen him live with GnR yet?  Totally changed my opinion for the better, but that's all it is, I suppose...opinion.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 30, 2006, 11:34:35 PM
$10,000 a month sitting around doing nothing?  Sounds like a sweet job to me.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Communist China on July 30, 2006, 11:35:54 PM
$10,000 a month sitting around doing nothing?? Sounds like a sweet job to me.? :hihi:

But it could end at any moment.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 30, 2006, 11:40:48 PM
He's been collecting since 2000.  I'd say that's a pretty good run.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Communist China on July 30, 2006, 11:42:05 PM
He's been collecting since 2000.? I'd say that's a pretty good run.

Yea, but you have to deal with a lot of stress in the GN'R world. Recording hundreds of tracks, and only have about 5 good ones, that's gotta be frustrating.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 30, 2006, 11:43:59 PM
He doesn't care about GN'R.  It's just a paycheck to him.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Communist China on July 30, 2006, 11:49:36 PM
He doesn't care about GN'R.? It's just a paycheck to him.

Whatever, I don't figure how you figure that.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: oneway23 on July 31, 2006, 12:02:23 AM
Keeping the focus on the topic...Cheers to Frank...Quite an admirable job....Let's see Brain back shortly.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: johnnythunders24 on July 31, 2006, 01:12:28 AM
he's "livin the dream" hope to see him around when the brain comes home...."NARF!"


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Mobenrad on July 31, 2006, 01:23:54 AM
Robin Finck is one of the main points of GNR. If GNR got rid of him, who the fuck knows what would happen. Some people might be happy, most disappointed. And it would be very hard to find a good enough player to fill his shoes in in the covers, and even more so on his work on the album.

If you were a guitarist, you'd be able to see what is so insanley amazing about him. His solos and his technique is just incredible. It's so original and exquisite.

So yeah, when did this shit start up about Brain only wanting the money? Can anyone back that up?

No offense to Brain or anything, but Frank does a lot better of a job than Brain on the new songs.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: ClintroN on July 31, 2006, 03:40:36 AM
Keep Frank and get rid of Finck and we may have something

arsehole : ok: : ok:


I don't see what people see in Finck



maybe 'cause your fuckin' blind!!! :rofl: :rofl: ::)


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Poof! on July 31, 2006, 03:46:06 AM
Keep Frank and get rid of Finck and we may have something






<---------? : ok:




Anywho... Yes! Cheers to Frank! Quietly waiting in the wings, then taking the stage as if it was second nature, doing an awesome job!? :peace:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: WARose on July 31, 2006, 03:50:28 AM
well.... i seriously missed brain in nijmegen. he kicked ass at rock am ring!!

frank is a good fill, but i don`w want to see him in gnr...


and some people here want finck to leave??? :-\

you don`t seem to understand which kind of role he has in the new gnr and how important he is....  if finck leaves, this band is definitely over. believe me : ok:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: mikegiuliana on July 31, 2006, 04:55:56 AM
I don't see what people see in Finck

Have you seen him live with GnR yet?? Totally changed my opinion for the better, but that's all it is, I suppose...opinion.

I have many many times and he's definetly better this time around, but he really messes up on many of the old gnr tunes.. He'll be better off when he sticks to his own music..


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Jim Bob on July 31, 2006, 04:57:41 AM
I don't see what people see in Finck

Have you seen him live with GnR yet?  Totally changed my opinion for the better, but that's all it is, I suppose...opinion.

I have many many times and he's definetly better this time around, but he really messes up on many of the old gnr tunes.. He'll be better off when he sticks to his own music..

Listen to how Finck plays the solo on the re-recorded SCOM that was on that movie years ago.   Then listen to him play it live now.  Doesn't sound like he's messing it up to me.   He re-worked it a bit to fit his own style.   Thats the case with all the old gnr stuff.    Granted, I can understand why some wouldn't care for it, but I wouldn't say he's "messing it up".


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: mikegiuliana on July 31, 2006, 04:59:42 AM
you're talking big daddy?? I remember hearing scom, but it's been ages since I have.. I remember it was during the credits.. Studio and live are two different things though..


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Jim Bob on July 31, 2006, 05:01:14 AM
you're talking big daddy?? I remember hearing scom, but it's been ages since I have.. I remember it was during the credits.. Studio and live are two different things though..

well what I mean is the way Finck plays it live is similar to the way he layed it down on the studio track.    Its off topic anyways.  Frank rocks  :peace:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: yorch on July 31, 2006, 05:08:20 AM
Robin Finck is one of the main points of GNR. If GNR got rid of him, who the fuck knows what would happen. Some people might be happy, most disappointed. And it would be very hard to find a good enough player to fill his shoes in in the covers, and even more so on his work on the album.

If you were a guitarist, you'd be able to see what is so insanley amazing about him. His solos and his technique is just incredible. It's so original and exquisite.

So yeah, when did this shit start up about Brain only wanting the money? Can anyone back that up?

No offense to Brain or anything, but Frank does a lot better of a job than Brain on the new songs.


i know something about guitars and i can tell you finck is not bad but he's worse than fortus and thal by far.
you're right when you say he is one of the main points of GNR now, i say  they are an awesome band now, but finck's style doesn't match with what i would really like to see in GNR.

but if you really think his solos and technique are exquisite you're really wrong folk


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Death Cube K on July 31, 2006, 05:16:33 AM
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So yeah, when did this shit start up about Brain only wanting the money? Can anyone back that up?

Brain was joking and being ironic in a few interviews. Unfortenately, people with less IQ than others didn't get it and started telling the masses. Then other low IQ people picked up on it as "the truth"  :hihi:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: mikegiuliana on July 31, 2006, 05:23:45 AM
see some of you are like if finck left.. If he did leave for whatever reason no one would be calling his name or expecting him... It's like ron stepped into BH's shoes right before the may15th show and no one even cared. All finck has done is played a couple of months of shows ,otherwise he is a virtual unknown outside of here.. Some of you have grown to love him because you feel he's been in axl's band for almost a decade, but nobody else does or really cares.. Maybe if the band had a single  videos and  an album there would be something to miss.. Right now it's a lot of covers and less being their own band..


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Death Cube K on July 31, 2006, 05:32:25 AM
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Maybe if the band had a single  videos and  an album there would be something to miss.. Right now it's a lot of covers and less being their own band..

Your approach is wrong. If they had been playing covers, the bands name would be something else. Then it would have been a set list of AFD covers. Since the name of the band is GNR, it's not covers in that sort of way. To them it's songs they have no written themselves, but since it's GNR and Axl Rose, those are the songs they have to play. And they will continue play half of those songs even when CD is out.

Yes, I appreciate Robin Finck as one of the most important members of GNR. Not only because of his 8-9 years stay but I do suspect he's been very much into the song writing process as well. We have heard Better, there will be quite a lot of others IMO.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: MrBrOwNsToNeR on July 31, 2006, 06:12:55 AM
i've seen Brain in Paris ... this man is a good drummer but he has no feelings... he is like a ghost on stage.

i've seen Franck yesterday at wembley: this man good and he is really anthousiast , he is really great...

I hope brain will never come back .


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: liesin on July 31, 2006, 09:11:23 AM
Frank truly rocks, haven't seen brain live but I I can't see why he wouldn't rock as well


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: GNVR on July 31, 2006, 09:43:46 AM
Keep Frank and get rid of Finck and we may have something

Agreed.  That would make a great line-up...


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: T_Roxie on July 31, 2006, 10:36:32 AM
Man Frank was awesome...I was really impressed.  I saw his sticks at the end and they were completely shredded.  The man's a legend.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: St.heathen on July 31, 2006, 10:42:40 AM
To be honest when i saw GNR at the NEC, Frank was soooo fucking into it, shouting during the set and keeping that GNR chant going between songs. Really seemed hyped up and loving it.?

That's what you want. Some passion, enthusiasm. When i saw them at Donnignton and Hammersmith, i wasn't looking at the drummer but at the NEC i was.? YCBM is much better too.?


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: ashlar on July 31, 2006, 11:34:24 AM
I seen GNr at the may 12th show. I had heard what an amazing drummer brain was but i realized that not once during the entire set did I pay attention to him nor did I notice much beyond the songs with the drum intros. He didn't seem into it when I did give him a glance. During the show I got into what each band member was doing except for pitman. Everyone rocked. When i listened to some of frank's bootlegs, the drums jumped out at me. I even forgot it was him playing until the drums jumped out at me. I REALLY hope axl keeps frank. GNR needs a loud drummer, Brain seems more like a jazz drummer or something along those lines.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: GNVR on July 31, 2006, 11:36:36 AM
Just by reading comments from fans who attended the shows, you can tell Frank stands out. ?He's having the time of his life, hyping up the crowds and getting along well with Axl. ?He's gotten more attention on this tour than Brain has had during his entire tenure with the band. ?Let's face it, Brain is NOT a rock drummer but Frank is. ?And Brain doesn't really seem to care all that much. ?Axl, take notice, you don't let a drummer like that go.... you just don't!


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Bravefish on July 31, 2006, 01:21:42 PM
Sounded spot on when I saw him...and digs the show at the end...even if he looks like he should be at a hip-hop gig  :hihi:

Fish


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 31, 2006, 04:10:22 PM
Uhhhh, DCK, we all know he was joking on that show, no one even mentioned that.  :confused:

As a musician myself, I know when a musician is happy and isn't.  Brain just isn't into the shows,and like serveral other posters said, Frank is really enjoying himself and having a good time.  THAT'S what rock n' roll is all about.

Brain wouldn't even be photographed with the guys.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Death Cube K on July 31, 2006, 04:17:30 PM
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Uhhhh, DCK, we all know he was joking on that show, no one even mentioned that.

Actually, you're wrong. Lots of people thought he actually meant those comments.

I dont understand this at all...Brain is a great drummer and I was disappointed he couldnt be in Oslo. Frank is OK for replacement, but Brain overall is a better drummer. I didnt even notice Frank playing or doing stuff Brain didnt do, so for me personally, I want Brain back.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 31, 2006, 04:21:29 PM
I don't know, I just get a better vibe with Frank.  Personal opinion I guess.  :peace:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Death Cube K on July 31, 2006, 04:23:36 PM
I really don't get you guys. I'd say 8 out of 10 of you have no idea who is the best drummer of Frank and Brain, not just playing live but the overall package.

It's like you base your views on a cartoonish kind of thing.

*Fortus is the best coz he looks cool/Fortus is the best coz he looks like Izzy
*Buckethead sucks coz he had a bucket on his head

Blah blah blah


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: the dirt on July 31, 2006, 04:24:13 PM
I dig Frank. If Axl wanted to remain in a rocking direction he would be the better choice (Slash would probably still be around too). Also a better chice for the tour that just finished because it was mostly old stuff.

But when it comes to stuff on the album Brain may be more suited. Axl may have a lot of quirky Primus-like songs on there where Brain could feel at home. No YCBM's, you know...


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 31, 2006, 04:31:47 PM
Yeah, I'm still hoping he's been practicing that intro by the time they come here!  :rofl:


DCK, no one said anything about looks, if anything Brain looks "cooler."  But music wise, Frank's the Man!


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Death Cube K on July 31, 2006, 04:34:32 PM
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DCK, no one said anything about looks, if anything Brain looks "cooler."  But music wise, Frank's the Man!

And how exactly do everyone seem to know that? Based on how he does the intro to YCBM? Most people, including me, have no idea if Frank really IS a better drummer than Brain, so it's all in taste and by how he looks.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: the dirt on July 31, 2006, 04:38:28 PM
I don't particularly like the way he looks. I can tell he's more of a rock drummer and I loved the way he pounded the shit out of the skins on better.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 31, 2006, 04:45:17 PM
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DCK, no one said anything about looks, if anything Brain looks "cooler."  But music wise, Frank's the Man!

And how exactly do everyone seem to know that? Based on how he does the intro to YCBM? Most people, including me, have no idea if Frank really IS a better drummer than Brain, so it's all in taste and by how he looks.

He's had 6 years.  :confused:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Death Cube K on July 31, 2006, 05:00:22 PM
Doesnt prove a damn thing. Brain may play better on any other part of the entire set list which we cannot hear just as well, same goes for Frank.


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Limulus on August 01, 2006, 02:50:51 AM
hearing Franks work in the live shows i personally rate him being the best live drummer "musically" from all gnr drummers.....his art of drumming kinda fits perfectly for the songs/band!


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Sillything on August 01, 2006, 04:09:53 AM
Frank is badass! cheers! :beer:


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: pollyblue on August 01, 2006, 04:48:28 AM
out with the old (brain) and in with the new! frank is the best!!!


Title: Re: Frank Rocks !!!!
Post by: Litti10 on August 01, 2006, 05:22:17 AM
Keep Frank and get rid of Finck and we may have something
What the hell are u talkin about Fink is the coolest guy in the band we dont need to get rid of anyone hes the real entertainer