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saw this

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/oasch/photo0048ph2.jpg)

I jope they mixed up the 11 and the 13, or it's never coming out.

in britain it goes day/month/year

here is more info


http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/viewtopic.php?t=16810

Well even if it's true, I wouldn't trust the date :hihi:

pretty suspicious if you ask me...I've never seen a CD store do that before :no:

HMV always do that kind of stuff. I know they did it with the new Pearl Jam CD a long time before it was released.

So, did you reserve your copy?

Wasn't this the same rumor from 2 weeks ago? :-\

and everywhere in Europe.

In Britain, sensible we do and sense is made. Pesky American nummerical preferance.

I hope that date isn't right, it's way too soon. Under four months is way not enough time to prepare. I need at least a years notice. Bouncy castles don't come cheap, and those huge Chinese Dragon costumes can't be found just anywhere, the local Argos don't have them stocked all year round.

lol. ?remember that amazon fiasco last dec when we all pre ordered what we thought was CD? :hihi:

yeah, this is kinda weird.. but there is actually no real reason why they should know something more then any other..

I don't know but I just saw that picture and it looks real

Yeah, that's why you drive on the left of the damn road...  ;D

september 13th would be the PERFECT date    no US tour before cd is released please :nervous:

and a release as soon as possible is what i want :hihi:

And how do you know when the tour will start?

One date means nothing...

Okay, I am confused.

Say that Nov. 13th is release date.

That is enough time to promote it.

But what about USA tour? ?How will that go? ?I mean, will USA tour be what I saw in May? ?How can Axl play songs off of CD on a tour if no one has the album yet? ?Would that mean if this date is true, then they'd have to do atleast 3 singles before they toured so people would know the new songs?

How many of you have seen GNR already and people other than us (downloading mofos) were unfamiliar with new songs?

This makes no sense to me. ?GNR know what they are doing but I want to see GNR on tour in USA with new songs and not the same show I saw in May. ?It was a great show but it'd be better with new material.

late september according to a mail from richard (which might be fake though....) : ok:

and it seems quite realistic to me. anyways.... i just hope for a CD release date prior to the US tour   , and as soon as possible

that's what the guy @ cd.com posted....one question if he was in the store and saw it why ask if it is legit? seems kinda a weird question IMO...obviously it's legit if he had it in his hand...right? or am i missing something

That's four months down the line, much time to prepare. Good things have often happened to me in November (except in 1960). Hope it's true.

He probably had to ask because he was shocked to see that in there.

I would have done the same thing.

well did he pre-order it at the store? and do people from these boards actually go check the price of gnr albums? I have never done that  :-\

I do it, every time I go to a record store I'll check if they have all GN'R's cd's and how much do they cost.

This way, whenever anyone asks me about cd's, I'm aware of the prices and the best offers and I let them know where should they go and buy them.

HMV are retarded. Theyve been posting phony release dates for YEARS.

Though theyare guilty of this, I really doubt they pull dates out of their ass and take preorders, just so they can give the $$$ back when the date falls through. They get those dates from someone, although obviously it's someone who either has no clue, or GNR keep pushing it back.

I think gnr is retarded to tour in the us without a new album... i just don't get the logic. Your trying to reinvent the band by playing songs that are 20 years old.... get on with it.

Don't get me wrong I saw the band all 4 shows in NY in may and it was fantastic but enough is enough shit or get off the pot axl.

hmv have made quite a few dates up in the past but this is the first time they have said to people in store we can reserve it

cant people just wait a while, if you hear nothing by mid sept nothing is happening this year, i mean you've waited how many years now.....???you can wait an extra months or two : ok:

Lol.  Can you see the name of the tour........GNR the Tarded tour :hihi:

Hey, there's a method behind that madness. When you're on your horse in days of old, you'd have your sword in your right hand, (no such thing as lefties in them days), therefore in order to engage an enemy in combat, you'd naturally have to be on the left, that's whey all spiral staircases go a certain way, so th defender (at the top) had more room to swing a sword. See, neccessity isn't the mother of invention, Violence is!  :P

im off to HMV to nick one of them, they could be worth a mint as a promo item  :rofl:

HMV had a RHCP Stadium Arcadium date long before anyone else, I was sure it was fake. I was wrong.

Guns N' Roses
Chinese Democracy
Geffen Interscope
Unconfirmed Publisher
13/11/2006
Unconfirmed Price (Single) (DualDisc) (Ltd Variation Cover)
Dispatching 11/11/2006

there is one like that at my HMV

Stuart, a good friend who works there said that the blank case is for confirmed albums

The screen for ordering is as follows

Guns N' Roses
Chinese Democracy
Geffen Interscope
Unconfirmed Publisher
13/11/2006
Unconfirmed Price (Single) (DualDisc) (Ltd Variation Cover)
Dispatching 11/11/2006

Preorder Information:

Ready To Preorder.
122 Ready 8 Ordered

Good, and take another picture cause this one looks fake to me..

If this is true, I would expect a single (and a video for it) out in late August or early September.

Well, we all remember the Amazon fiasco....but given the fact that they are in the process of booking the US tour (apparently), then this might be more believable...were i axl, i'd still want it out before i started trying to convince people to buy tickets  for live shows, given 2002... at least a single to grab the US public's attention.

it doesnt seem fake

This is actually possible.

Richard said the tour would start at the end of September. If a single were to drop around that time, touring would be no problem, the album would come out what, six weeks later?

It's doable.

I posted over a month ago (check my history :P)  that a little birdie that works higher up in the Best Buy corporate chain gave me a November 14th date to put on my calendar as an interesting one.  That's a Tuesday here in the US :)

Dear god you motherfucker... Dual Disk format too?


(....goes off to dream about Chinese Democracy in Digital 5.1 sound)

well just called my local HMV (in canada) and it's not in their database :no: ....although they did say that HMV UK is different than HMV Canada

yet bettah not be lyin'  : ok:

what's the deal with everyone thinking the single will be out months before the album?
the single itself is usually out one week before the album. music video about 2 weeks before the album. radio starts playing the song 2-3 weeks before the album is released.

if the album is released the 13th of November, I don't think we'll see any single till late October.
not that I care, whats another month?

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! i HATE dualdisc! for the pleasure of getting 5.1 and (usually pretty light) DVD content, you get the "bonus" of not being able to rip it to digital formats (without getting sound distortion). i listen to my music about 90% of the time on my computer or ipod, but i still want to have the physical album and liner notes! is that so wrong? the 2 dualdiscs i own i ended up "stealing" in mp3 format after i bought the disc...

Avenged Sevenfold had a single a couple of weeks before too..."Burn It Down" i believe.

isn't it legal to download it for free when you already own the album?

don't ask me, ask the RIAA... they seem to think any time someone downloads something, it's stealing.

I can think of numerous instances this year alone where the single was out well over a month before you could buy the album. RHCP and Buckcherry for instance.

well over a month? you mean the single was in the stores a month before the album?
that's just not correct, at least not with RHCP...I know that. radio started playing it MAYBE 4 weeks before the album was out, but not more than that.
anyways, 1 month would still put us in mid October. I just can't see the logic when people say something like; the album is being released in mid November, so the single will be out in September...well, that's something Ive never seen before.

I had the single from itunes well in advance of radio play, same with buckcherry, and because my girlfriend is into rap/pop/hiphop I have noticed a lot of songs that are on itunes/radio long before an album drops. A song called S.O.S. was out two months before the actul album dropped.

so it's prolly bullshit then cu if one UK store has it you'd figure the whole chain would...there is no rumor anywhere else but this posters claim...no radio station rumblings or anything

lock this sucker and throw away the key if you ask me :peace:

I don't use iTunes, but I couldn't find any illegal downloads of it until it had been on the radio a while. didn't find any good quality ones till the single was released on disc.

but you're probably right, Im just the way that when I buy an album/single, I don't just want a file. I want the case and the disc and everything! ;D

I hope this isn't from the mind of a practical joker.   :hihi:


WAAAAAIIT a minute! :rant:

I always buy the album in the store because I am the same way, I just grab the new singles that are out first from itunes.

Something tells me even if CD is coming, we won't be getting the single early on itunes though lol. 

^ yeah, I don't think so either. I don't really see the single as being "out" until it's at least on the radio either ;)

the stores just havent updated their sections (and for a cd four months away, can you really blame them?).
it does sound the most plausible date we've seen so far (probably ever given whats gone on this year). but then again, hmv have a history of bullshit - not just with chinese democracy (though easily their worst offence, but thats not entirely their fault now is it?) and we really just wont know until axl says so...  it'd be nice, but until axl says so ill not get too excited.

They've still to decide what tracks will appear on the album. i still wonder if the album is 100% recorded. It would not surprize me if they still have some more recording to do. I think they only need a week to make the cd's so pressing them could begin in September.

Maybe Bumblefoot + Izzy + Seb needs to laydown some sounds, just as some added input. The UYI albums had all sorts of extra people on the credits.

but with this thread people will get excited...we all want it so bad that we want this to be true...and in reality it prolly isn't :'(

you never know...

im sorry, i cant keep a straight face typing that.

(uh-oh, the excitement is building in me - im starting to feel the urge to text my mates to call round to hmv! i need to get out of this thread!)

IMO releasing 3 singles (better, the blues, IRS or twat) before the album is not a bad idea in this case.

I like the date like 8/8, 10/10 12/12.

That picture evidence is meaningless. So what if theyve put a CD out with that release dates.. its probably an employee having a laugh.

Think about it logically.... if there was a release date then WE would all know about it through a legit source. Its not like everyone in the music industry knows it and is keeping it under wraps.

Everyones just second guessing when it will could out.

I don't know which terrirories we're talking about here, but certainly from what I have seen in the UK, singles are commonly released more than one week in advance of an album. Certainly when I was doing student radio, music videos hit campus tv well in advance of the single itself being released (easily 6weeks if not more) then the single would get played on radio and be released after at least a 3 or 4 week campaign before being released. The album could almost be totally unrelated and be released after a month or so or even after a second or third single. In the UK, I think maybe singles were marketted and 'sold' rather than using them purely to advertise the album. Although, single sales have declined recently and the focus seems to be back on just using them as a promotional tool.

Whats the point in pre ordering an audio cd, when you can just go out and buy it on the day. Its not like it is a Playstation 3, where you know there will be a limited supply.

What would be good though, if HMV and other music stores are doing a pre order offer (money off) then they could atleast put out blank boxes showing the cd cover art work (they do this with video games).

The key word = commonly

ohh! I have a so HUGE feeling we will get a date in a couple of weeks.. Axl said fall, late fall.. and August is the perfect month to announce this.. arent u guys excited ? ? ? ? ?

Aye aye! My bet is in 11 days. You know I believe in the 8. :-*

Not in America. In America, the RIAA and software companies bribed politicians with "campaign contributions." In return, they got a law called the DMCA. Under the DMCA, it's illegal to bypass copy prevention even if you already own it. Theoretically, you could go to jail for copying/downloading something you already own.

That said, there is not a single copy prevention scheme on the planet that has not been broken. I'm hoping there isn't some shit on CD that prevents its usage in my car or PC, cuz those are basically the only two places I use for music.

Either way we'll know within the next few months whether it's coming or not, let's just see how this plays out as we'll know soon enough.

i sure do honey! Im with u on that one.. : ok:

Yes, and if it is released at the 13 November i'll recieve a wonderfull bday present the following day : ok:

my bet is until august 11th :hihi:

an eight is in there as well : ok:

11/ 8/06 ie, 11+6=17, 1+7=8 :idea: still 8 and 8, hell yeah!
However,  8/ 8/06 is a tuesday. aye, dictionary?  ;)
Anyways, Only a few days difference, I'm easy.

SOMEBOODY EMAIL RON AND ADD THAT PIC PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :nervous:

cheers! :beer:




AXL... THE CD :drool:

             My god I feel like crying...the CD will actually come out ? I can't believe it ! New Guns n Roses material baby. HELL YES!!!!    :beer:

It's not fake. I promise you. Maybe HMV is wrong, but it's not fake. THe HMV in my town has had a case like that out for the new Velvet Revolver album since it was first announced.

Please don't bother Ron, he can't answer those kind of questions anyway.

how do you know?

Don't buy the dualdisc version, then. Sorted.

Anyways, it's also worth noting hmv.co.uk has a habit of sending pre-ordered albums to arrive with you on the Saturday before release. Nice  : ok:

I remember a record store had an "official" release date for CD 3 years ago................

You mean you didn't get yours? I'm waiting for CD Vol. II. What are you waiting for? :P

And look what happened to that ... wrong is as good as fake for the consumer.

HMV have advertised a date for the album a few times now and have been wrong, im not sure about this 1, it seems like a realistic date as axl said it will be out in the fall, theres now a full blown tour etc

I for one won't cry untill axl speaks his mind about the release but I fucking think that this is the year!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like in every normal country  : ok:

I didn't order anything.

I did and then I received an email that amazon was canceling my order.

It would be great if someone who is really in the know would comment on this...Mysteron, where have you been?

I wonder if Mysteron has gone to any GNR shows

yeah where is mysterion.. it is a while ago we heard anything from him now right?.. wonder what this mysterion is up too

hey i live in uk and went to hmv today and asked guy at the counter bout cd , he checked his comp and said its due for release sometime november, but he also said take it with a pinch of salt until you hear from an official source ,and to keep checking back there,so pretty much as i thought.

What everyone is overlooking here is that if there is going to be a DualDisc version - there's probably going to be some enhanced video content on the flip side - footage from the Hammerstein maybe?

I hate Dual Disks.
The bonus material is usually just a video with a short interview, and some "enhanced stereo." Sitting myself infront of my DVD surround isn't what I'd consider to be pleasurable listening.

Just put out one solid standard copy. The classic CDs of the past were always one version, and one version only.

I mean, look at all the different versions of Contraband. Am I supposed to feel the need to buy them all? Just another money scam.

              Odds are if its DualDisc as were saying we could see a few Hammerstien numbers.  I could see 4 to 6 songs on that. I'd buy that version pretty much.

a little off topic but:

fuck duals, giva me som bad as originals with just one version. I'm with you all the way "ryan_of_lax"

well....do I hae a story for you guys....Went to HMV here in Ontario, Canada today and they had a Jewel case with:

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No shit....Not a word of a Lie...the Lady on the floor said the date is subject to change though :-\ to me i think it's just speculation based on forum rumblings

just backing up dudes claim

Could you get a pic of that Jewel case?

no I don't have a digital camera

it wasn't really anthing special...jsut printed on yellow paper in a regular font, no GnR logo...it didn't even say chinese democracy...

like i said i think it's just speculation on HMV's part

personally i think that this is nothing to get excited about...the datye has changed many many times before and has also been previously available for purchase...somebody prolly just finally got wind of the radio interview when axl said "late fall" and decided to get preorders...and no i didn't preorder it...

I wont beleive it's out till i have it in my hands :hihi:

ok i went to a couple other places...music world and a local record dealer nobody but HMV "knows" about it....so yeah just following up...it's just HMV beinig optomistic IMO

Ok, I'll go to HMV today and see what's up as best I can. I'd take my digital camera, but all I would get is a picture just like the one already in this thread.

HMV are guessing

There is no set date yet

I saw it today here in St. John's.  It's just them being optimistic again.

I talked to the guy today. He said nothing is set in stone, but the record companies are the ones sending them release dates for albums. So, what's known is, for now, a Guns N' Roses release is slated for September. They don't know that it is CD and the date could always change.