Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Some dude over at mygnr.com claims he gets info from a sound tech/roadie.

When asked if we'll get any news about CD this is what he said

last performance of the tour they are playing a new song we haven't heard yet and then axl will take the stage and announce the official release date for CD.

you didnt hear this from me


If this is true, I hope they (A.) can the roadie for blabbing
and (B.) Axl changes his plans.

I hate for this to be true and some jerk has to ruin the surprise beforehand.

So.. why tell even more people?

I really doubt it, a roadie also apparently said that they were gonna open one show with yesterdays :hihi:

"I hate for this to be true and some jerk has to ruin the surprise beforehand."

I wouldn't worry too much!

This definitely isnt true, and if it was going to be true, Axl wouldnt do it just to prove the guy wrong.

DAMN!  :no: what a zinger...

EDIT: Also.. I doubt its for real. But that would be awesome

some guy here myspaced bumblefoot asking him about if they have surprises for the Wembley concert...and he said something like "You'll see", so i believe this.

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=75592&st=0&p=1370500&#entry1370500entry1370500


here is the thread

Sounds possible.

We'll see, folks! Wembley is 4 days away! ?:D

doesn't say anything about a roadie or sound tech...

it's just a poster saying what he thinks may happen ::)

Well all along Ive been thinking Axl will say something at the last Wembley date except "See you all next Summer..." :hihi:

If the true release date for CD is to be revealed, then Fall is looking very lovely.. : ok:

It would be great, but if bumble kinda hints at it, you never know.  My guess is Brian May on Catcher in the Rye if they did any type of surprise at all.

he mentions in another post that he gets his info from a roadie/sound tech.

He divulged that after the Newcastle incident and the band walked off stage.

you're totally right. what actually happened is that axl got pissed at the guy throwing shit and left, and then back stage beta and others were trying to calm him down and kept saying "go back out there and finish the song, then you can leave."

axl started going to his dressing room and supposedly yelled "i'm not fucking taking this shit anymore, the show is fucking over and i'm going home" and beta told him, "axl if you walk away now you walk away forever. they're not going to tolerate this any more" and then after a bit more of this axl decided to go back out and finish the song.

they released a press release saying it was two coins to cover this up. for a moment axl almost caused another "early exit" and there probably would have been people criticizing him etc. like they did for the st louis show, so by releasing a press release quickly they are covering their asses. smart pr move!

oh, and for those wonderin i get this from a sound technician who works back stage. he is a roadie with them and he also said at download when axl walked off for "technical problems" he was telling beta back stage that he wanted to leave, and both times it was beta that convinced him to go back on stage and she actually used st. louis against him the first time and told him "you don't want another st. louis do you?" and axl didn't say anything and then a few minutes later said he would go back on stage, but he was actually going to leave at download!



I hope Mysteron can prove this poster/rumor to be false :yes:

Mygnr = about as useful as the Bush administration in the White House.  Totally a load of crap.  No roadie is going to risk their ass to tell some fan.  GNR's roadies are dedicated and they know they'd lose their job in a second if they blab.

I agree with you  :yes:

It's worthless.


Thanks for relaying the message here for us to read. But the majority of stuff started there is just crap, people constantly posting rumours and just fake shit there.

Nope. Not gonna happen.

I would like to see: elton, maybe brian may,

and defenitly if there's a new song it's going to be rhiad


Ii guess  :nervous:

butttt A CHINESE DEMOCRACY RELASE DATE it's alright to  ;D ;D ;D

oh god...tell me why he'll tell that to a roadie...even the group's members dont know anythin about the release of ( i dont want to say this 2 words again)...and goddamit folks...forget about rhiad plz...get over it...theyll never play this song again and you know why!!! everybody knows theres no long term with axl rose...hope everythin gonna be fine!!!!

If its true it will be Brian May, they will probably play Catcher in the Rye! Axl and May tried to sort something out for the Hammersmith show but it never worked out. The band seem to be very open about press releases this time round, it really wouldnt suprise me if Axl does let some info out on stage, we will probably get a press release the day after the last Wembley show, which is on a Sunday, saying how successful the tour was and when CD gets released. Either way we only have to wait until monday to find out!

Jonx

Ron said that he learn RHIAD soooooooo
MAAAAAYBE they'll play it...
maybe no.
who knows

let's wait and see...

DON'T KNOW about catcher... I don't think that they'll play it in this tour

I hope to be wrong.

I really hope that it's true  :D

the new song will be catcher in the rye for sure , it would make perfect sense.

as far as the release date goes , its bullshit : ok:

Why?

From all the leaks this one came from a difference source as if it wasn't ment to be with the rest.

The song has never been played yet.

Axl said he doesn't know whether it will be on the album.

Axl said Brian May played on the demo and that's all, is even if it is on the album it won't be Brian May playing guitar on it.

When Brian May has played with GnR in the past it's always been covers:
Tie Your Mother Down
We Will Rock You
Knockin' on Heavens Door


So no if Brian May does make an appearance it isn't "for sure" that it will be CITR, imo it deffiantly won't be.

yeah that was me who mged him vout that "now if i told u that wouldspoil the suprise wouldnt it :) " is wot he said  ;D

Maybe bf meant Brian May. and Riyadh would be nice.


The other version of download back stage bs story was funnier.
I donno whether the roadies tend to love having jokes on the fans or a sentence like "oh, and for those wonderin i get this from a sound technician who works back stage" should be always read  "Oh and for those wonderin, i just made this up"


Do you really? :confused:

What was the other backstage story?  I didn't hear it.

When this UK leg of the tour got announced, I had a hope/wish/dream that Axl may give some info about what is going on, even if it is only a snippet, such as "the first single is" or something along that line.

Unless they've been doing some work on the tour, I somehow doubt we'll get a release date for the album on Saturday or Sunday, as I'm sure Axl said on the Eddie Trunk show that they were still working on a few songs and tha the tracklisting was not complete. I guess this work would kind of happen between the end of the UK tour and the first show in the US, with perhaps some sort of announcement in between.

Despite what some doubters think, an announcement at the MTV awards at the end of August would seem plausible for a release between late October and late November.

that would be a really cool thing to do...and yeah...brian may...citr is what i immediately thought too

Bullshit. We all know it was Yoda that convinced Axl to go back and perform. Not Beta.

It's true. My friend (a roadie) actually took a picture with his camera phone...

(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/447/yodaroselo2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

I could see Brian May joining to play CITR.  Axl pulled out all the stops at the LAST Hammerstein show bring out Izzy, Kid Rock, and Sebastian.  Wouldn't be surprised if they played the fourth leaked track with the man who played guitar on it who hails from the UK.  But I would SERIOUSLY doubt we'd get a CD release date during a concert.  I just don't see THAT happening.  At least nothing official.  I don't see Axl stopping the who to say, "mark your calendars, the new CD will hit the stores on November 13th.  If anything he'd stick to the "late fall" mantra.  But hey, what do I know?

He will probably leave us guessing, gagging for an explanation for the tour...head back home and go quiet on us for a few weeks, and then if we are very lucky something dramatic might happen.

It seems so long ago he first appeared at that Korn party and stunned everyone

I would imagine if he would say anything it would be at this show, and even then I think all we would get is a "Thank you, Look for our album this fall, and we hope to see you again next year!"

I doubt we will get any kind of certainty from the stage. The good news is Fortus has said August is gonna be a pretty busy month, so hopefully the album gets finalized, they take some press pics, and maybe so some interviews. As great as the past few months have been, August/Early Sept are going to be very telling what the next step will be, or if there even is one at this juncture. I will say I'd be a lot more worried if Inland Invasion wasn't scheduled, as it makes it look like there is an actual plan  in place this time.

how would axl even know the release date if he hasn't give the final copy to record company. The record company would make that decision I'm assuming and since they don't have an album yet I find highly unlikely axl would give a specific date. I don't doubt the roadie said something but i doubt it would happen either way.

I imagine this is yet another thing he has taken control of over the years, that he has final say over EVERYTHING involving GNR. If he  didn't have the say they would have taken the mixes and put them out years ago.

As the tour goes into the U.S. and CD expected in the fall, I expect to hear more songs from CD soon. Bring on the prostitute.

Hahahaha...that is funny shit.

Before the U.S. Tour, more training with Yoda, Axl will have.

(http://i7.tinypic.com/212u7sz.jpg)

Do you guys actualkly think, after all these years of torment and torture, that we'll have any info before the September date in CA?  My money would be on more silence and no info and no released material or release date prior to that show.  Axl is all about self destruction.

Something tells me that the KROQ show will be very  interesting.

That would be cool, but I don't really believe it. I also don't believe Beta would be telling Axl HE HAS to go back on stage and finish a song. Nightrain was toward the end of that show, and Axl doesn't have to do an encore. Now if Axl would have just left the stage at Download... there definitely may have been another "St.Louis".. so I can see it's possible that someone said something like that.

Especiallg given GnR's history at Donnington. I doubt it was Beta said it though, I'd doubt she'd be the one: "you don't want another St. Louis do you?" She's his personal assistant, she's not going to give out to him! I'd say it was Merck, Izzy or another band member.

I could def. see Beta saying that. I was at the Mother's day show at Hammerstein, and he called her his mother. She gives him motherly advice, and she would definately be the one to tell him to think about what he is doing. She is probably one of the few people he will listen to and take criticism from.

i think izzy being there was a big factor in him not fucking off at donnington aswell, and from the way people were directly afterwards i think the riot on sunday night would have been alot worse if axl had just gone.

So, to the priginal poster, GN'R fans scream and yell for info all day long, berating the GN'R camp for not talking, and now that we have gotten some information, be it true or not, the roadie should be canned for it? Was that your post or the mygnr.com poster's opinion? Either way, it's ridiculous. And there was no problem re-posting the roadie's stement here, huh?
You could say that the leaks ruined the surprise of hearing those songs on CD, but I bet there wasn't a problem with that?

Anyway, as far as the authenticity of the statement goes, I don't know why a roadie would have such detailed information about GN'R's show.

I don't believe this because this roadie is not axl rose which means this is false  :rant:

Axl only tells the truth? Even if Axl said it with a tape recorder, a video camera and a scribe with him it wouldn't mean it's going to happen. :hihi:

If Axl was going to play a new song and announce a release date for CD you would think he'd play the first single.

that gave me the chills  :nervous:                :nervous:  the official release date :nervous:

does he mean the american tour yet to be announced or the european tour thats taking place??   ???

european tour. but its total bs.

I agree. To say she is "just an assistant" is ludicrous.

She is definately more than an assistant, from this picture you can see how much he cares for her. Like he said, she is his mother.

(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7923/axlandbetauq9.jpg)

axl wouldnt tell anyone before hand about his plans!!

it`s not that smart to announce the release date at a concert i`d think....

so the surprise was an acoustic gig

today's the last show so something should happen.

lets hope and pray!!!

well, here is that poster again.

notice how he tries to now say that is what he hears but he's not sure coz his roadie/friend "hears stuff"

trying to CYA incase nothing happens

so typical

as i said in another post i have a friend who is a roadie with the band, sound technician who handles equipment backstage, he rarely gets a chance to talk to bandmembers or anything since hes just a roadie but he does hear stuff backstage, and he told me there are plans to play one new song on the final show of this tour and that axl will officially announce CD release date with an image of the album on the big screen on stage, and after announcing the release date is when he'll play a new song. my friend doesnt know what song is plannong in being polayed though.


http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=75938&hl=


lol.? this whole acoustic thing last night threw him so now he is making excuses in case nothing happens tonight


edit to say he put "this isn't verified so I didn't put it in news" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
no shit :hihi:

I don't know how some of you people are so sure it won't happen.  It's like when someone says they have a new song and half the forum jumps down their throat.  Then it turns out to be true.  coughIRScough  This is why I try never to jump to conclusions.  Anything can happen.

His story seems plausible.  This is the last show and Axl almost has to tell us something about future plans or do something a little different.  I can't see the band playing the first single though.  It just isn't the way to introduce such a key song.  I can see them playing CITR though, with Brian May.  Technically this would make the poster at least partly correct and owed a few apologies IMO.  Then Axl will tell us what's coming next, in vague terms.  Something like an announcement in late August, or the album is targeted for late 2006, etc.

Not totally convinced about a release date and album cover...but you know what?  It's not like it'd be such a big surprise.  We know the album is coming in either November or December.  So it's not like Axl is really giving out too much information by doing this.

because he was for sure it was gonna happen and today he states it's not confirmed to cover his ass and the acoustic gig threw him for a loop. that's why.

everyone's an insider ::)

At mygnr sometimes they will move a thread that's in news and discussion if it isn't confirmed.  So that could explain his statement.  Just read his post, he sounds pretty sure.  Not like he's backing off at all.

All I'm saying is that some people are too quick to judge just because it's posted at a forum they don't like, or they don't want things to go down that way, or whatever their story is.  Just like he can't provide us evidence that actually proves he isn't lying, none of us has evidence to prove that he is.

the thread did NOT get moved.

he purposedly put it in that section because he is NOW claiming it's not verified info.

surprise surprise.

 ::)

The end of the US tour or the finnal date at Wembley/UK (which is tonight  :beer: )

.as if were to be the end of the US tour i think we'll have the album by then anyway  :hihi:

I'm saying the mods there have a habit of moving threads out of the main section if they are unsubstantiated news.  So he could have decided not to even bother putting it there in the first place because he thought it would just annoy them and get moved.  You know, he actually put it in the right section and explained why he did so.  :o

I don't want to argue about this, I'm just saying we should all keep an open mind.

Rumours ? Jaysus h christ lads. Remember the rumours around before the eddie trunk interview. Slash this and all that.

And a "roadie" said it. give me a break. Sure that could be anybody looking for his/her 15 mins of fame.

And until i hear the words from axl himself,then i wont believe anything any so called "insider" said was meant to happen.

Thats my two cents worth anyway.

rumor yet a changing :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


well ok when i spoke to my friend again he said it wasnt just one person who said this. he works with a crew of guys back stage and some of them have higher authorization i guess, so there were a lot of rumors going around back stage. he overheard two guys with security passes discussing something about the album but he had to move to the other side of the stage so didnt hvae a chance to pick up on what tehy were talking about. this was last night. anyway i really hope its true, that would kick ass to have a new song and cd release date.


so now the roadie friend had to move away from the stage and couldn't hear what was said ::)

i bet GNR read this post, knew which roadie it was and now the dude is covering his ass to this poster so he doesn't get canned :hihi:

from that dude off of mygnr.com who started that rumor of a new song and album cover being shown and cd announcement

my friend sent me text from backstage, he says he hasnt heard anything more about a new song being played tonight but that it seems "tense" back stage and beta is there pacing back and forth and occasionally talking to people, might mean something...who knows........

lol how he changes his story each time to save face

yeah his roadie friend is gonna text him in the middle of a fucking show.....................right  ::)

NOW THE POSTER IS RECANTING.

Axl blew out his voice so Baz had to sing PC and this poster tries to make it seem that the reason it was so tense backstage. 

Fake insiders  ::)


sorry guys, as someone else said i guess the reason everyone backstage was tense is because axl was ill and they were afraid of a walk-off or something......i still dunno why a new song wasnt played, unless my friend just heard wrong. or maybe it was planned before and they cut it short because he was sick. i guess we wont know for now tho.

now he acts like his friend told him this after it was posted all over the sites


....my friend just texted, said axl blew his voice out last night and partied too late, apparently he also drank quite a bit and was hungover this morning....at least he gave it a try tonight! he made it through most of the show so it aint a disappointment right??

let this thread be a lesson to those who believe fake insiders

A lesson?? We've had a trillion lessons, and people still haven't learned. I guess they need a trillion more. :rofl:

another rumor probably will never seen the fucking album

another FACT we'll hear the album

Yeah, and when one of these "fake insiders" actually comes through, what then?  Hell, it's already happened before.  This guy may have been legit, we will probably never know.  It's easy to shoot him down and a lot of people did, but did I see one shred of real evidence it was bogus?  No.  It's not like I really believed, but there's always the 1 in 1 million chance that something is real...if you don't have any faith in that then I feel sorry for you, you don't have that open a mind.  I'm not really directing this at you james, but to all fans.

What I can't understand is why Dolphin bothered to follow this poster around at mygnr to find out every little update he gave, and then updated this board, if he never even trusted him in the first place!  :confused:

Anyways, it's a dead issue now.

Don't blame Dolphin for someone else's bullshit. She was actually doing everyone a favor. We hear this "inside scoop", so she follows up on it. Not her fault that its a load of crap. You should actually respect those of us with the balls to dig for info, and when its wrong, expose these jokers for what they are. If no one bothered to do that, you would have a million threads at these forums consisting of a million inside scoops.

You're right, once in a blue moon someone is right. But you just cant go blind and believe everything thats said in the off chance they are legit. :peace:

Maybe I would respect that, but in this case nobody exposed anything.  Doubting someone and proclaiming them a fraud does not qualify as exposing.  It is assuming, though.


Yeah, you don't just believe but you also don't just assume it's a lie.  You have to consider both possibilities, and the majority don't.  How many in this thread allowed for the slim chance that this could've been real?  I could probably count them on one hand.  But that goes for all forums.  Most of these rumours tend to not happen so the safe choice when one pops up is to call it a lie - not much risk that you'll be wrong.  Sorry but that doesn't work for me.

Anyways, I've made my point.  No hard feelings towards anyone I hope. :peace:

Well, the reason people tend not to take that stuff seriously is because we've all been down this road millions of times over the years.  The skepticism is so hardened now that like you said, when the blue moon rises and someone is right, they are immediately jumped on by the community. Its a case where a shitload of bad apples spoiled the few good ones.

Even the legit "insiders" like Mysteron expect to get some shit from time to time. Its just how the GNR community is. Especially when its crap like some noob saying "My source says CD is out next month, " My source said CITR is on the 2nd album",etc. It gets old real quick.

So basically, the only people with "contacts" who are taken seriously are mysteron and darknemus. Why? Because things they have said has actually happened. Not to say those two guys are saints, but when they post something, you take it seriously.

James...

Everything you've been posting, I've notted my headed man, i totally agree with just about everything you've posted  :beer:


Talking about Mysteron and Darknemus..
I think I've seen Mysteron on here like once in the past 2 months, but no sign of Darknemus..
He hasn't been on AOL either...
Wonder if anyone knows whats going on with him?

I don't believe any of that crap, ESPECIALLY considering where it came from...............

well... mysteron is around quite often, but doesn`t post that much : ok:

and we all need to calm down on this insider/rumour bullshit.... as james said, mysteron and darknemus are credible posters, most of the rest are bullshitters. it doesn`t matter anyways.... things are going to happen regardless of what some insider knows or not : ok:

well that was one big lie!

One important thing to know on these forums, don't believe everything people tell you. Besides, it was far fetched.

Total horseshit. Lock this fucker already.

This is false.

bullshit

NO BULLSHIIIIIT!!!



eh I had too.

Only with Axl Rose could something like an album release date be considered "far fetched"  :no: